Current Events > Mario Kart for the Wii is the worst in the main series (console games)

(+) Yeah! (+)

By far
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Fuck Funky Kong
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I agree

shit game
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I agree. Moderately fun at times, but it's the one I have the least desire to replay (with the possible exception of the original on SNES - I was never good at that one and didn't latch onto the series until the gem that was MK 64).

The thing that pisses me off the most is that some of the best 'classic' stages like DK Mountain and DK Jungle Parkway got wasted on MK Wii. At least they saved Yoshi Circuit for MK 8.
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Best is still SMK.
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Nah, Mario Kart Wii had some of the best character selections and the tracks are pretty fun. You get screwed over by items in this game more than past MK games, but MK8 was somehow worst in that regard.

The only negative I saw in MKWii that is preventing it from being my favorite was how online was dominated by Daisy's and Funkey Kongs because they had the best top speed in the whole game.
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Man I'm on an island today.

I thoroughly enjoy Mario Kart wii and chipotle
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I always found the Wii version to be the most boring, so...
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rubberband AI was terrible in that game.
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Mario Kart 64 is the worst
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Yeah, MKWii had a ton of big flaws. You were at a major disadvantage if you used karts, and the item distribution was terrible. The number of blue shells handed out was outrageous, making actually winning a complete crapshoot
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What

Mario Kart Wii is still the best out of any Mario Kart. Best tracks, best vehicles, best drivings mechanics, and Rosalina has a proper voice

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

The number of blue shells handed out was outrageous, making actually winning a complete crapshoot

MK8, especially the Switch version, is 10x worse for Blue Shells.

TheMarthKoopa posted...

K8, especially the Switch version, is 10x worse for Blue Shells

No.
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dave_is_slick posted...

No.

lol ok

Fucking MK8 and its 3-4 blue shells per race is so much less than MKWii's 0-2 blue shells per race

dave_is_slick posted...

TheMarthKoopa posted...

K8, especially the Switch version, is 10x worse for Blue Shells

No.

This, I was disappointed that they upped the blue shell rate for MK8 Deluxe, but it's still well below MKWii. On regular MK8, you'd usually only see one blue shell every race or two. On MKWii it was probably closer to one per lap.
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I really enjoyed it.
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Wii was my fav tho :(

Awesome tracks, awesome characters, and a ton(read: metric fuck ton) of content.
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it was the best online game i could play lag free on 3 mb/s
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MK64 is pretty bad once you remove all the nostalgia.

8 and only 8 characters, no unlocks besides a halfassed mirror mode, and I thought it was just hard as a kid, only to find out it had bullshit rubber banding.
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thompsontalker7 posted...

MK64 is pretty bad once you remove all the nostalgia.

8 and only 8 characters, no unlocks besides a halfassed mirror mode, and I thought it was just hard as a kid, only to find out it had bullshit mirror mode.

Ya my grandpa passed away a few years ago and i found an old 64 with a few games. man it didn't live up to the nostalgia. I also remembered how much i hate the 64 controller, especially the worn out joysticks.
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Disclaimer: It's still a good game. I'm just a Gamecube fanboy
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MKSC was one of the first games I remember playing, doesn't hold up well today.

Mario Kart 64 was awesome. It's hard for me to play today, tho.

Mario Kart Double Dash!! was enjoyable when it came out. This has my vote for worst, even though it is still a good game.

Mario Kart Wii was the one I've played the most online. I enjoyed it.

Mario Kart 8 is amazing.
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It came after the flawless DS version, too. DS version was by far the most skill intensive, so too bad
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legendarylemur posted...

It came after the flawless DS version, too. DS version was by far the most skill intensive, so too bad

*snakes to victory*

Idk if I'd call it skill intensive
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TheMarthKoopa posted...

MKWii's 0-2 blue shells per race

*CinemaSins laugh*
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TheMarthKoopa posted...

What

Mario Kart Wii is still the best out of any Mario Kart. Best tracks, best vehicles, best drivings mechanics, and Rosalina has a proper voice

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

The number of blue shells handed out was outrageous, making actually winning a complete crapshoot

MK8, especially the Switch version, is 10x worse for Blue Shells.

I've played the hell out of single-player MK8 Deluxe, and I can say with confidence that the average Blue Shell count is one per race. Occasionally there's two, and occasionally there's none at all. If I've ever seen three in a single race, I can't remember it. I even feel like sniping (which is what I call it when the AI throwing a rapid series of hazards at you to deliberately thwart you, like red shell + blue shell + red shell in quick succession) is down from Double Dash, which was my only real gripe with that particular entry. I honestly can't remember how bad the shell rate was in MK Wii, since the whole game was pretty forgettable to me.

Of course with the new items, MK8 can get more creative about sniping. My favorite is when a Boo steals your hard-earned Super Horn seconds before a blue shell comes in.
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TheMarthKoopa posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

No.

lol ok

Fucking MK8 and its 3-4 blue shells per race is so much less than MKWii's 0-2 blue shells per race

Are you sure you're not mixing the two up? Because I definitely remember the Wii version having that 3-4 blues per race issue.
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Banjo2553 posted...

Are you sure you're not mixing the two up? Because I definitely remember the Wii version having that 3-4 blues per race issue.

I'm not mixing the two up.

I've played both extensively and distinctly remember rarely ever getting hit with blue shells in MKWii and MK8 having them constantly and now even more of them on Switch because of double item boxes.

Also, lightning bolts are just fucking obnoxious in MK8 and 100x worse than blue shells because they delete your items. They ruin the game.

TheMarthKoopa posted...

Banjo2553 posted...

Are you sure you're not mixing the two up? Because I definitely remember the Wii version having that 3-4 blues per race issue.

I'm not mixing the two up.

I've played both extensively and distinctly remember rarely ever getting hit with blue shells in MKWii and MK8 having them constantly and now even more of them on Switch because of double item boxes.

Also, lightning bolts are just fucking obnoxious in MK8 and 100x worse than blue shells because they delete your items. They ruin the game.

Have you ever considered that maybe you just sucked balls at MKWii, and thus were never in 1st to take the blue shell hit?

Cause you're waaaay off, I'm positive blue shells were at least 1.5-2x as common in MKWii, and I've put 100+ hours into online multiplayer for each title.
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excellent and true topic
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

Have you ever considered that maybe you just sucked balls at MKWii, and thus were never in 1st to take the blue shell hit?

I'm always in first place which is why I know they're rare

Delirious_Beard posted...

excellent and true topic

These are the only topics I make
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TheMarthKoopa posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

No.

lol ok

Fucking MK8 and its 3-4 blue shells per race is so much less than MKWii's 0-2 blue shells per race

You are wrong. My wife and I continue to play MK Wii a few times a week and blue shells average about 4 per race.
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BlazinBlue88 posted...

You are wrong. My wife and I continue to play MK Wii a few times a week and blue shells average about 4 per race.

Want to know how I know you're wrong? Because I've never even SEEN 4 Blue Shells in a single race in the million times I've played the game. It's just not possible

TheMarthKoopa posted...

BlazinBlue88 posted...

You are wrong. My wife and I continue to play MK Wii a few times a week and blue shells average about 4 per race.

Want to know how I know you're wrong? Because I've never even SEEN 4 Blue Shells in a single race in the million times I've played the game. It's just not possible

That would only be possible if you've never played MKWii. To those of us who have played extensively, it's clear that blue shells come out, on average, at least once a lap, which works out to three or more a race. On longer tracks, it's even more.

Hell, I've had a few races where I built up a huge lead and got hit by 3 or 4 blue shells by myself. And I've seen a few races where there were no fewer than 6 blue shells thrown - although again those extremes happened on longer tracks.

Long story short, you're not only wrong, you're hilariously, laughably wrong.
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TheMarthKoopa posted...

BlazinBlue88 posted...

You are wrong. My wife and I continue to play MK Wii a few times a week and blue shells average about 4 per race.

Want to know how I know you're wrong? Because I've never even SEEN 4 Blue Shells in a single race in the million times I've played the game. It's just not possible

"Want to know how I know you're wrong? Because I say so!"

Lol stfu
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BlazinBlue88 posted...

"Want to know how I know you're wrong? Because I say so!"

Lol stfu

That's literally what you just said before me

lmao

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

Long story short, you're not only wrong, you're hilariously, laughably wrong.

I'm wrong because you're saying things that are obviously untrue to what I've experience myself. MMMk

You're probably just bad at estimating probabilities and frequencies, MarthKoopa. No shame in that. But you want more proof of just how wrong you are?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntDAS91dcmw
Here's a race on Maple Treeway. Five blue shells come out on just the last two laps. So much for never seeing that many in a race, lol. And not only that, there were only seven racers in that match. A match with the full twelve racers will produce at least 50% more blue shells than that!

Again, I don't blame you for being incorrect here, cause it's not easy for everyone to estimate frequencies and the like. But at least own up to it, considering everything and everyone to the contrary. You're wrong, period.
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntDAS91dcmw
Here's a race on Maple Treeway. Five blue shells come out on just the last two laps. So much for never seeing that many in a race, lol. And not only that, there were only seven racers in that match. A match with the full twelve racers will produce at least 50% more blue shells than that!

I don't give a fuck about one anomaly in online play

SlashmanSG posted...

Best is still SMK.

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Fine, here's the actual item distribution breakdowns. I didn't want to post these because you're probably going to have trouble comprehending them, @TheMarthKoopa.

https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Kart_Wii_item_probability_distributions
In MKWii, you can get blue shells any where from 4th to 9th place. The cumulative probability for those positions to receive a blue shell is 60% per item box.

https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Kart_8_item_probability_distributions
In MK8 the item distributions are a little different, but the distance back where you can receive a blue shell roughly corresponds to 4th through 9th, like MKWii. The cumulative probability here is 14%.

14% is much lower than 60%. In fact, it closely corresponds to my and others' estimates of around 1 blue shell per race in MK8 versus 3 to 4 per race in MKWii.

You can't argue with statistics, and it's clear you don't know what you're talking about. Now, would you kindly stfu in light of all that evidence?
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

but the distance back where you can receive a blue shell roughly corresponds to 4th through 9th, like MKWii.

This is where you're wrong and where the higher frequency of blue shells in MK8 comes from. Because CPU players 4th and below are always in the same distance groups, they all get blue shells. Doubly so in Switch.

And that 60% you're coming up with is 100% BS. Read the charts again

Lmao Mario Kart

Play some real fucking racing games for a change.
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lmfao hell no

The worse Mario Kart games are 64 and Super Circuit
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DifferentialEquation posted...

Mario Kart 64 is the worst

thiiiiiiiis
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KlRBEH posted...

lmfao hell no

The worst Mario Kart games are 64 and Super Circuit

This guy knows what's up.

64 was my jam back in the day but boy has it aged badly.

And Super Circuit was never even good to begin with tbh. Just mediocre/OK, which is sorely lackluster for a Mario Kart game.
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TheMarthKoopa posted...

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

but the distance back where you can receive a blue shell roughly corresponds to 4th through 9th, like MKWii.

This is where you're wrong and where the higher frequency of blue shells in MK8 comes from. Because CPU players 4th and below are always in the same distance groups, they all get blue shells. Doubly so in Switch.

And that 60% you're coming up with is 100% BS. Read the charts again

It's 60% for karts controlled by players, less for CPUs lol. Even for CPUs, you still have a much higher chance of getting hit by a blue shell than in MK8
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Most of us must have been incredibly unlucky (or Marth was lucky) to get 2-3 blue shells on average per race every time we played online. I remember very distinctly that happened.
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