Current Events > report: US has regressed to developing nation status

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Bat178 posted...

At least Canada is still a 1st World/Developed Country.

...within 90 miles of so (about 150km) of the US border.

Obama is sitting on an island with a smug look

"Mission accomplished"
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mortimerjames posted...

Obama is sitting on an island with a smug look

"Mission accomplished"

...he moved back to Hawaii?

Does this mean we can stop giving money to countless developing nations since we are one?
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TomNook20 posted...

That's not a report, it's just a clickbait headline taken from a book he wrote. The articles linked have absolutely no content whatsoever.

That's the impression I'm getting.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

mortimerjames posted...

Obama is sitting on an island with a smug look

"Mission accomplished"

...he moved back to Hawaii?

did you not see him buying carribean islands a few months ago?
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Hm. I guess it makes sense. But going to have to agree with the clickbait thing. Unfortunately the wealthy being cheap-asses hits home far too often than not. Also seems like when they are doing this they are invested in something that will be a loss for them. Unfortunately the upper class in this country is incompetent as all hell.

I've been tempted to move out of the country but I'm not entirely sure where I'd want to move. Probably a more socialist centered country. And one that can properly manage it's problems.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

I've been tempted to move out of the country but I'm not entirely sure where I'd want to move. Probably a more socialist centered country. And one that can properly manage it's problems.

such as?

I've considered Iceland and Switzerland before. Iceland is extremely small though and bilingual. Switzerland from what I remember has some political issues, as do a few European countries, specifically with their neighbors in the middle East and in Russia. Australia has a weird government from what I remember, and they get strange laws sometimes that benefit nobody. New Zealand is nice but it's also very small and remote even in comparison to Iceland.

So I'm not entirely sure.
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I'm not listening to a word of this until Fox News confirms
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Making America great again
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FightingGames posted...

I like how the volunteer has a choker. lol
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*GASP!!!!* Liberals spewing liberal bullshit hysteria and whatever they can to try to turn people against the president cuz they're super butthurt that they lost and are in full tantrum mode?!??! *has heart attack from pure shock and surprise*

Lmao

CrazyandLazy posted...

FightingGames posted...

I like how the volunteer has a choker. lol

lol
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i told you fools and you held your hands over your ears and screamed to drown out my voice

enjoy your second world country

dumb sjws and BLM members made this happen.
not only that, but americas flat refusal to increase minimum wage, implement better welfare and healthcare systems, give better employee and consumer protection rights, etc

americans BTFO
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FightingGames posted...

http://news.mit.edu/2017/america-economy-decline-middle-class-0313
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-developing-nation-regressing-economy-poverty-donald-trump-mit-economist-peter-temin-a7694726.html

MIT economist Peter Temin says 80 per cent of the population is burdened with debt and anxious about job security

Peter Temin says the world's largest economy has roads and bridges that look more like those in Thailand and Venezuela than those in parts of Europe.

The economist describes a two-track economy with on the one hand 20 per cent of the population that is educated and enjoys good jobs and supportive social networks.

On the other hand, the remaining 80 per cent, he said, are part of the US low-wage sector, where the world of possibility has shrunk and people are burdened with debts and anxious about job security.

He found that much of the low-wage sector had little influence over public policy, the high-income sector was keeping wages down to provide cheap labour, social control was used to prevent subsistence workers from challenging existing policies and social mobility was low.

Commenting on Mr Temins findings, Lynn Parramore, senior research analyst at the Institute for New Economic Thinking, writes: Without a robust middle class, America is not only reverting to developing-country status, it is increasingly ripe for serious social turmoil that has not been seen in generations.

Figure 1 - Homeless americans sleeping

Figure 2 - American volenteers helping feed the poor

What is it like living in a 2nd world country?

Not bad. I'm sitting in a comfortable home, with my girlfriend and 2 dogs. I have more video games than I can play, a couple cars, leftover food, all the bills are paid, and I'm off work for 2 days. The only thing I can really complain about are the stupid people I'm surrounded by when I'm in public.
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Commenting on Mr Temins findings, Lynn Parramore, senior research analyst at the Institute for New Economic Thinking, writes: Without a robust middle class, America is not only reverting to developing-country status, it is increasingly ripe for serious social turmoil that has not been seen in generations.

I for one welcome the revolution.

Finally have a use for all those bootstraps when we start lynching yuppies in the streets.
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I wonder if the people who shill this hard for the government and republican talking points are actually getting paid to do so.
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"Yeah, lets start a war with Iran. That'll fix things"

P4wn4g3 posted...

I've considered Iceland and Switzerland before. Iceland is extremely small though and bilingual. Switzerland from what I remember has some political issues, as do a few European countries, specifically with their neighbors in the middle East and in Russia. Australia has a weird government from what I remember, and they get strange laws sometimes that benefit nobody. New Zealand is nice but it's also very small and remote even in comparison to Iceland.

So I'm not entirely sure.

Geezus talk about being picky.
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badasstion posted...

*GASP!!!!* Liberals spewing liberal bullshit hysteria and whatever they can to try to turn people against the president cuz they're super butthurt that they lost and are in full tantrum mode?!??! *has heart attack from pure shock and surprise*

Lmao

This post isn't any better than the clickbait article.

Most people on either side of the political spectrum would selfishly leave the other for dead if it meant preserving their own personal well-being and/or simply proving they are right.

The mindset of the majority of the population in this country is "better you than me" or the equally damning "better anyone than me".

This is the major problem humanity has continued to face for centuries and will ultimately lead to our extinction.
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Thanks, Obama.
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looks like it's time to move on out of here
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

we better impose more costs on that 20 percent so they too can be poor!

forget home ownership, enjoy your Obamacare premiums instead!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!

This, lmao

Libruls making America more expensive and more miserable.
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ColdOne666 posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

I've considered Iceland and Switzerland before. Iceland is extremely small though and bilingual. Switzerland from what I remember has some political issues, as do a few European countries, specifically with their neighbors in the middle East and in Russia. Australia has a weird government from what I remember, and they get strange laws sometimes that benefit nobody. New Zealand is nice but it's also very small and remote even in comparison to Iceland.

So I'm not entirely sure.

Geezus talk about being picky.

Why not be picky?
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Rexdragon125 posted...

Capitalism working as intended

it sure is capitalism's fault people are paying as much for their insurance premiums as they are for their mortgage

definitely not government's fault!

it sure is capitalism's fault people are taking on way too much consumer debt for things they don't nee. definitely not people's fault!

this, complete with the snark.

whats sad is the number of people who refuse to become enlightened on the issues. whats also sad is the number of folks that are going to blame trump for this despite the fact is is roughly 100 years of socialist/progressive/liberal policies that have been pushed through that have created this mess.

this isn't the mess of the conservatives....this is the mess of the liberals pushing high tax entitlements and over spending with reckless abandon and killing businesses with regulation after regulation and thus creating poverty and wel fare dependence. this is also the fault of so called conservatives in power compromising at every turn.

yet somehow the liberals here, and uninformed masses who probably shouldnt even be allowed to vote given how politically uninformed most folks are, will simply jump onto the latest antifa/BLM/anit-establishment anti-trump rally and blame conservatives.

all the while failing to realize it is their liberal ideology that broke the system in the first place.

edit:

liberals will no doubt cry racism/sexism/etc. fine leave that as it may be(don't feel the need to argue that as it would be pointless). but the real point here is, we have bigger issues, like a country breaking apart thanks to your failed ideology than screaming at the top of your lungs about "equality" and whatever other feel good issue like "global warming". we can have an honest conversation about those issues AFTER the bigger fire of fixing a government that is filled with your BS entitlements and regulations and other stuff that is creating a perfect storm of death in america.

after that is fixed then we can deal with any so called cries of inequality and all that racism/etc.

Can you mouthbreathers argue a point without partisanship? Because it looks like y'all can't.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

we better impose more costs on that 20 percent so they too can be poor!

forget home ownership, enjoy your Obamacare premiums instead!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!

Maybe if the republicans didn't do everything in their power to make the ACA suck those premiums wouldn't be so high.
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Meanwhile, those of us who don't identify as liberal or conservative are sitting here with bags of marshmallows and sticks waiting for the inevitable fire.
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ScazarMeltex posted...

kayoticdreamz posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Rexdragon125 posted...

Capitalism working as intended

it sure is capitalism's fault people are paying as much for their insurance premiums as they are for their mortgage

definitely not government's fault!

it sure is capitalism's fault people are taking on way too much consumer debt for things they don't nee. definitely not people's fault!

this, complete with the snark.

whats sad is the number of people who refuse to become enlightened on the issues. whats also sad is the number of folks that are going to blame trump for this despite the fact is is roughly 100 years of socialist/progressive/liberal policies that have been pushed through that have created this mess.

this isn't the mess of the conservatives....this is the mess of the liberals pushing high tax entitlements and over spending with reckless abandon and killing businesses with regulation after regulation and thus creating poverty and wel fare dependence. this is also the fault of so called conservatives in power compromising at every turn.

yet somehow the liberals here, and uninformed masses who probably shouldnt even be allowed to vote given how politically uninformed most folks are, will simply jump onto the latest antifa/BLM/anit-establishment anti-trump rally and blame conservatives.

all the while failing to realize it is their liberal ideology that broke the system in the first place.

edit:

liberals will no doubt cry racism/sexism/etc. fine leave that as it may be(don't feel the need to argue that as it would be pointless). but the real point here is, we have bigger issues, like a country breaking apart thanks to your failed ideology than screaming at the top of your lungs about "equality" and whatever other feel good issue like "global warming". we can have an honest conversation about those issues AFTER the bigger fire of fixing a government that is filled with your BS entitlements and regulations and other stuff that is creating a perfect storm of death in america.

after that is fixed then we can deal with any so called cries of inequality and all that racism/etc.

Yep, gotta stop putting all those pesky regulations in place that prevent people from getting maimed, dying, or catching some kind of awful disease caused by exposure to some awful chemical while working. Also gotta do away with all those regulations that prevent companies from dumping industrial waste into the water supply so they can make a real profit.

Nice strawman. Too many regulations and wanting toxic waste in the water obviously are not inherently the same position.
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pikachupwnage posted...

ScazarMeltex posted...

kayoticdreamz posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Rexdragon125 posted...

Capitalism working as intended

it sure is capitalism's fault people are paying as much for their insurance premiums as they are for their mortgage

definitely not government's fault!

it sure is capitalism's fault people are taking on way too much consumer debt for things they don't nee. definitely not people's fault!

this, complete with the snark.

whats sad is the number of people who refuse to become enlightened on the issues. whats also sad is the number of folks that are going to blame trump for this despite the fact is is roughly 100 years of socialist/progressive/liberal policies that have been pushed through that have created this mess.

this isn't the mess of the conservatives....this is the mess of the liberals pushing high tax entitlements and over spending with reckless abandon and killing businesses with regulation after regulation and thus creating poverty and wel fare dependence. this is also the fault of so called conservatives in power compromising at every turn.

yet somehow the liberals here, and uninformed masses who probably shouldnt even be allowed to vote given how politically uninformed most folks are, will simply jump onto the latest antifa/BLM/anit-establishment anti-trump rally and blame conservatives.

all the while failing to realize it is their liberal ideology that broke the system in the first place.

edit:

liberals will no doubt cry racism/sexism/etc. fine leave that as it may be(don't feel the need to argue that as it would be pointless). but the real point here is, we have bigger issues, like a country breaking apart thanks to your failed ideology than screaming at the top of your lungs about "equality" and whatever other feel good issue like "global warming". we can have an honest conversation about those issues AFTER the bigger fire of fixing a government that is filled with your BS entitlements and regulations and other stuff that is creating a perfect storm of death in america.

after that is fixed then we can deal with any so called cries of inequality and all that racism/etc.

Yep, gotta stop putting all those pesky regulations in place that prevent people from getting maimed, dying, or catching some kind of awful disease caused by exposure to some awful chemical while working. Also gotta do away with all those regulations that prevent companies from dumping industrial waste into the water supply so they can make a real profit.

Nice strawman. Too many regulations and wanting toxic waste in the water obviously are not inherently the same position.

Well all those regulations help make sure millions of Americans are not exposed to toxicity at dangerous/deadly levels.
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"Regulations for business are bad!" Said nobody intelligent, ever
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and yet, everyone has a car and a $1000 iPhone
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Damn_Underscore posted...

If you move toward the middle of the country, there are a lot of inexpensive big homes

Not everyone is willing to do that though

because nobody wants to move to the middle of fucking nowhere where there aren't any jobs

So you have to live in expensive cities where there are jobs, but don't pay enough to actually buy a house or some cases, even afford rent
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So it's one guy's opinion
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Nah, big companies seem to break every rule they can. They can probably more easily afford the legal fees than the overhead.
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HylianFox posted...

and yet, everyone has a car and a $1000 iPhone

I have friends who aren't very rich and yet they have cars. Turns out that having a car can save them money, by allowing them to shop cheaper in bigger bulk. Maybe they have a sick parent they need to take care of and public transportation wouldn't get them there. Many also have 6-800 phones. I agree, they could probably do fine with cheaper phones, but it's not what makes or breaks their budgets. Often they prioritize phone over computer, and you really need at least one of those to function properly. Without computer, maybe they don't need cable and can do just fine with their phone plans.
Being completely without smartphone and computer is a big handicap in 2017.
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Around half of Americans are in poverty now

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/10/16/yes-half-americans-are-or-near-poverty-heres-more-evidence

The poverty threshold is still based on a formula from the 1960s, when food expenses were a much greater part of the family budget. It hasn't kept up with other major expenses. Since 1980, food costs have gone up by 100%, housing 250%, health care 500%, and college tuition 1,000%.

The Congressional Research Service (CRS) says, "If the same basic methodology developed in the early 1960s was applied today, the poverty thresholds would be over three times higher than the current thresholds." Three times higher!

sad!

Anyone who actually thinks this needs to be sent to a developing nation
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Sativa_Rose posted...

Anyone who actually thinks this needs to be sent to a developing nation

Have you?