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Kineth 10/14/17 5:09:26 AM #151: |
CarlGrimes posted...
Kineth posted...Children aren't reading Mark Twain I'm saying that teenagers read Mark Twain, not children. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CarlGrimes 10/14/17 5:11:34 AM #152: |
Kineth posted...
I'm saying that teenagers read Mark Twain, not children. I read Tom Sawyer in 4th grade. That isn't teenage. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 10/14/17 6:23:18 AM #153: |
CarlGrimes posted...
Kineth posted...I'm saying that teenagers read Mark Twain, not children. So in case it isn't clear, I didn't mean for it to be an absolutist statement with no possibility of exceptions. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gamer99z 10/14/17 6:26:55 AM #154: |
Kineth posted...
CarlGrimes posted...Kineth posted... It is pretty annoying when people give responses like that completely knowing the actual point of the statement. The point being that for most it wasn't until 13-14 that you were assigned or started reading Mark Twain, but obviously there will always be people who did earlier, but you know good and well that the overwhelming majority didn't. --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PBusted 10/16/17 5:56:41 AM #155: |
Anything to get outraged over
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ClockworkHare 10/16/17 6:05:36 AM #156: |
Just erase the character. Not exactly difficult to do. It's not like the caricature made a ton of appearances in Seuss's children stories...
People claiming Seuss was Hitler reborn are hyperbolic idiots as usual, but the request that the racially insensitive cartoon be removed is sensible for the times. Nostalgia isn't a good enough excuse to preserve that thing... --- Bite me like one of your French rolls. http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/06/05/flcnpawn.png http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/06/05/84543589.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 10/16/17 6:06:51 AM #157: |
Conservative outrage culture is much more prevalent on CE than liberal outrage culture.
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RickyTheBAWSE 10/16/17 2:47:50 PM #158: |
COVxy posted...
Conservative outrage culture is much more prevalent on CE than liberal outrage culture. liberal outrage is a result of conservative outrage, and that's why conservatives on CE hate timelines and any mention of cause and effect. just about every conflict can be traced back to somebody starting some shit over a false sense of superiority over somebody else, lol. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SavenForever 10/16/17 3:15:33 PM #159: |
COVxy posted...
Conservative outrage culture is much more prevalent on CE than liberal outrage culture. This is absolutely false and you know it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HiddenRoar 10/16/17 5:45:14 PM #160: |
boxington posted...
Wolf: You're sounding just like the person who wants the mural's removal in OP's link. Guess it's not just "one person" like some folks are trying to play it off as. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 10/16/17 7:08:34 PM #161: |
SavenForever posted...
COVxy posted...Conservative outrage culture is much more prevalent on CE than liberal outrage culture. No, he's definitely right. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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unclekoolaid73 10/16/17 7:10:32 PM #162: |
Kineth posted...
SavenForever posted...COVxy posted...Conservative outrage culture is much more prevalent on CE than liberal outrage culture. ![]() --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Flintgrandad 10/18/17 3:46:40 AM #163: |
Remember these?
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Lorenzo_2003 10/18/17 4:11:17 AM #164: |
CanuckCowboy posted...
How dare you?! Pinky, a British white male, is allowed to be offended on behalf of Asian people. If he wants to explain to us all why we must also be offended by Dr. Seuss, then we need to all be quiet and appreciate his progressive bravery. --- ... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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unpleasant_milk 10/18/17 4:27:37 AM #165: |
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
CanuckCowboy posted... Lol, harsh but funny. --- GT unpleasant milk #I want a poacher skin rug ~ http://imgur.com/a/V10yv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 10/18/17 4:32:40 AM #166: |
HiddenRoar posted...
boxington posted...Wolf: so you're saying that people shouldn't be offended by racist images like that, likening black people to monkeys? --- b-bb-box ... Copied to Clipboard!
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unpleasant_milk 10/18/17 4:41:25 AM #167: |
boxington posted...
HiddenRoar posted...boxington posted...Wolf: Pretty sure the depictions were based upon images of the native Africans. They were very primitive; and compared to the black people you see in the west, are practically different people. --- GT unpleasant milk #I want a poacher skin rug ~ http://imgur.com/a/V10yv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 10/18/17 4:44:25 AM #168: |
uh, native Africans don't look like monkeys, man.
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unpleasant_milk 10/18/17 4:51:14 AM #169: |
boxington posted...
uh, native Africans don't look like monkeys, man. My main point was that they are different, and have some primitive cultures that yes, can make them look a lot different to the black people you see in the civilised world. Dr Seuss drew exaggerated caricatures ![]() --- GT unpleasant milk #I want a poacher skin rug ~ http://imgur.com/a/V10yv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 10/18/17 4:58:39 AM #170: |
I wasn't criticizing their attire, I was criticizing the racist features that Seuss drew for them.
black people have been likened to and depicted as monkeys for centuries by racists, and Seuss followed suit. and as far as looks go, there are many people throughout Africa that resemble those in the US. and that example you posted isn't the same as what Seuss drew; that person stretched out their bottom lip, while the figures in those images were given monkey features --- b-bb-box ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HiddenRoar 10/19/17 10:49:40 PM #172: |
boxington posted...
Are you saying that there should be a movement to remove these types of images? Sorry bro, you're just one person with an overblown reaction as quoted: Kineth posted... It mostly seems like conservatives overblowing one person's opinion and making it seem like there's some big movement about this. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 10/19/17 11:32:49 PM #173: |
Are you saying that there should be a movement to remove these types of images? when did I say that? --- b-bb-box ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HiddenRoar 10/20/17 1:35:11 AM #174: |
boxington posted...
Are you saying that there should be a movement to remove these types of images? Then we agree. Leave them as they are, where they are. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CarlGrimes 10/20/17 1:35:12 AM #175: |
boxington posted...
HiddenRoar posted...boxington posted...Wolf: All of the people Dr Seuss drew looked like monkeys/muppets, whether they were black, white, or green. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 10/20/17 1:39:55 AM #176: |
dude, come on.
it's okay to acknowledge that you like a racist historical figure without making excuses for them. his images of black people are similar with other racist pictures from the past. you almost wouldn't know that those drawings were of Africans if they weren't dressed in loin cloths --- b-bb-box ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 10/20/17 1:42:26 AM #177: |
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DesuDeku 10/20/17 1:45:38 AM #178: |
pinky0926 posted...
AffligemFR posted...it is obviously offensive in 2017 I googled what that was. lmfao what the fuck!? ![]() --- https://i.imgur.com/QqE3IAr.jpg Samus Returns ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 10/20/17 11:50:55 AM #179: |
CarlGrimes posted...
All of the people Dr Seuss drew looked like monkeys/muppets, whether they were black, white, or green. So in the picture that's in the quote chain in your post, there's direct evidence to invalidate your "point". --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThanksUglyGod 10/20/17 11:57:32 AM #181: |
boxington posted...
another one of Seuss's drawings Pretty hard to defend that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 10/20/17 12:08:17 PM #183: |
boxington posted...
another one of Seuss's drawings the black people have different colored shirts so it's not racist or whatever. geez you snowflakes --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marc55 10/20/17 12:44:42 PM #184: |
ThanksUglyGod posted...
boxington posted...another one of Seuss's drawings were black people despicted in different way back then when you google for drawings from that time they all look alike --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 10/20/17 12:46:15 PM #185: |
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Pretty hard to defend that "Hold my beer" - right wingers --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SubtletyRefuge 10/23/17 2:38:48 AM #187: |
DesuDeku posted...
pinky0926 posted...AffligemFR posted...it is obviously offensive in 2017 What was the original post even about? What exactly is the "Chinese version of golliwogs?" The post seems to have been deleted. --- Real subtle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LethalAffinity 10/23/17 3:28:20 AM #188: |
I just saw the "caricature"
WTF it's not offensive at all --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SubtletyRefuge 10/25/17 6:12:11 AM #189: |
DesuDeku posted...
pinky0926 posted...AffligemFR posted...it is obviously offensive in 2017 What was the original post even about? What exactly is the "Chinese version of golliwogs?" The post seems to have been deleted --- Real subtle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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