Current Events > Viking "Islamic" textile debunked by expert in Islamic art

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Ammonitida
10/17/17 9:17:45 AM
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http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/16/islamic-art-and-architecture-expert-debunks-claims-about-muslim-vikings/

She added that the earliest example of the style dates to 11th to early 12th century Muslim architectureall dating to at least 100 years after the Viking textile found in Birka. She also noted that Larssons drawing of the word Allah in Kufic script wasnt even common until the 15th century.

In other words, Larsson and her teams findings are the result of pareidoliathey saw Arabic patterns where there werent any.

Mulders debunking of Larsson extended to the rest of the textile, as well. She pointed out that Larssons claims are based on supposition, and not proof.

The professor also stated that the only reason the story went viral was because of contemporary politics. The story, she says, struck a nerve because it could serve as a rebuttal to white supremacists who long for the glory days of the crusades.
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Doom_Art
10/17/17 9:20:30 AM
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I don't personally care about this either way

but it's been funny watching a very particular group of people getting upset at the possibility of some white vikings possibly being islamic
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lilORANG
10/17/17 9:21:46 AM
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I agree with her last point to an extent but i wouldn't call this debunked. This is how history works, there would be a debate and a consensus will be formed.
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ROBANN_88
10/17/17 9:25:34 AM
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while the subject is still in the air, i noticed that too many people saw the "they had arabic letters in a textile" and immediately jumped to the conclusion of "that means Viking were muslims and praised Allah"
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marc55
10/17/17 10:36:39 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
while the subject is still in the air, i noticed that too many people saw the "they had arabic letters in a textile" and immediately jumped to the conclusion of "that means Viking were muslims and praised Allah"

dont know why they thought all of them were just because one of them has those letters
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Dathrowed1
10/17/17 10:41:58 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
while the subject is still in the air, i noticed that too many people saw the "they had arabic letters in a textile" and immediately jumped to the conclusion of "that means Viking were muslims and praised Allah"

Yeah, I mean cursory research shows that Vikings and Muslims did have contact with each other.

Muslims wrote about the Rus' people; there's been Islamic coinage found in Scandinavia; Muslims also documented Barbary pirates raiding Scandinavia for slaves.
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COVxy
10/17/17 10:44:21 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
I don't personally care about this either way

but it's been funny watching a very particular group of people getting upset at the possibility of some white vikings possibly being islamic


This. No one will ever know either way, but it is very funny to see these exaggerated reactions to what should be trivia night level information.
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Ammonitida
10/17/17 10:44:22 AM
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Dathrowed1 posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
while the subject is still in the air, i noticed that too many people saw the "they had arabic letters in a textile" and immediately jumped to the conclusion of "that means Viking were muslims and praised Allah"

Yeah, I mean cursory research shows that Vikings and Muslims did have contact with each other.

Muslims wrote about the Rus' people; there's been Islamic coinage found in Scandinavia; Muslims also documented Barbary pirates raiding Scandinavia for slaves.


I mean, the Vikings had far more contact with Christians in Europe. The "Viking" sword is based off Frankish design (Christian).
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Dathrowed1
10/17/17 10:50:41 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
I mean, the Vikings had far more contact with Christians in Europe. The "Viking" sword is based off Frankish design (Christian).

My statement was pointing out that this discovery isn't really set as has been said.

Even the professor who rebutted this said: Vikings had rich contact with the Arab world. This textile? No, she began, noting that the textile has no Arabic at all but the story has gone viral thanks to news outlets like the Times and BBC.
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The Great Muta 22
10/17/17 11:01:55 AM
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Ammonitida posted...

I mean, the Vikings had far more contact with Christians in Europe. The "Viking" sword is based off Frankish design (Christian).


Okay? It's not a battle about who had more contact with the Vikings...
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HylianFox
10/17/17 8:19:48 PM
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so, Thor is the son of Allah? huh, neat
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Callixtus
10/19/17 12:51:11 PM
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This seems to be getting a lot less attention
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pls
10/19/17 12:52:48 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
but it's been funny watching a very particular group of people getting upset at the possibility of some white vikings possibly being islamic


it's funny watching the left have a wet dream over the vikings having been an inclusive and diverse islamic culture
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Callixtus
10/19/17 2:46:28 PM
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pls posted...
Doom_Art posted...
but it's been funny watching a very particular group of people getting upset at the possibility of some white vikings possibly being islamic


it's funny watching the left have a wet dream over the vikings having been an inclusive and diverse islamic culture

lmao
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A_Good_Boy
10/19/17 2:54:46 PM
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HylianFox posted...
so, Thor is the son of Allah? huh, neat

Of course the All-Father had Muslims as children.
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