Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 142: You know what you're getting into

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Im glad my legal counsel was finally able to approve this

LOLOLOL
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this closing piece on Lawrence O'Donnel taking on Tucker Carlson is hilarious

tag for when a youtube is up
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http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/23/media/bill-oreilly-misconduct-allegations/index.html

"You know, am I mad at God? Yeah, I'm mad at him," O'Reilly said on the latest episode of his web series, "No Spin News." "I wish I had more protection. I wish this stuff didn't happen. I can't explain it to you. Yeah, I'm mad at him."

Stupid old god making me harass women

"If I die tomorrow and I get an opportunity, I'll say, 'Why'd you guys work me over like that? Didn't [you] know my children were going to be punished? And they're innocent,'" he said.

...does that imply you arent?
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Wait, so he's saying that this whole thing is a conspiracy theory perpetrated by God?

god is working for soros
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God let his own son die. Bill would never stoop so low
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He definitely implied that he is not innocent, yes.
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Totally a scumslip

Bill O'Reilly: I harassed women, and then they accuse me of harassing them? You can't explain that! So obviously god.
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shouldn't he blame the devil for his behavior?
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No, admitting that he was influenced by the devil would mean that he still did something bad. Blaming it on Gd means that he can say "well you might think it was bad, but it's part of His greater plan, and who are we to question that?"
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Saw this on the politics board, thought it was worth bringing up here too:

http://www.timesleader.com/news/678405/ex-dupont-police-officer-sentenced-to-prison-for-corruption-of-minors

I... just don't get it. Less than 2 years for what he did? I mean I realized he plead out, but... seems like way too little time. Especially when we punish people much worse for Drugs.
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That judge is awful for taking that plea

He should have been barred from being around children forever after the masturbation conviction!
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Muellers investigation is now widening to include John Podestas brother Tony and his Democrat lobbying group

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mueller-now-investigating-democratic-lobbyist-tony-podesta-n812776

I can feel the agony from Trumpheads trying to decide whether to legitimize Mueller so they can boast about their conspiracy theories being true, or not.
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CelesMyUserName posted...

this closing piece on Lawrence O'Donnel taking on Tucker Carlson is hilarious

tag for when a youtube is up

yesssss it's up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kod2KFQdLLg

fuck tuck
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https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/922824614128115714

lol PJW
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https://twitter.com/ohreallyoleary/status/922780639010676736

lol white nationalists
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https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/922612398409814016

lol Austria
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It looks like they raided a pizza restaurant rather than a toy store
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http://www.npr.org/2017/10/24/559604836/majority-of-white-americans-think-theyre-discriminated-against

Holy shit
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I mean, any time you implement policies favoring one race over another, someone ends up discriminated against.
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FFDragon posted...

I mean, any time you implement policies favoring one race over another, someone ends up discriminated against.

Pretty much, even if it is in an effort to tilt the scales towards equality.

Also important to note is that 84 percent of whites believe discrimination exists against racial and ethnic minorities in America today.

At least they got this part right
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yeah that's what I mean

discrimination isn't a zero sum game
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Not exactly the most agreeable thing to say, but when I was in college I applied for a university job. The people there liked my excel knowledge, thought I interviewed well, but didn't get the position. A couple months later the person (friend) who got me the interview later stated to me that I didn't get that job because they already have a man in a very similar role, and wanted a woman for that position. I was pretty pissed because I thought they wasted my time because of it. Not exactly white/black, but more or less the same concept. Assuming he was telling me the truth, which maybe he was not.

The hiring process of any job, for any person, is kinda discrimination already so it doesn't surprise me if people in general no matter what race/age/gender/etc think they are being discriminated against.
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Dancedreamer posted...

Saw this on the politics board, thought it was worth bringing up here too:

http://www.timesleader.com/news/678405/ex-dupont-police-officer-sentenced-to-prison-for-corruption-of-minors

I... just don't get it. Less than 2 years for what he did? I mean I realized he plead out, but... seems like way too little time. Especially when we punish people much worse for Drugs.

This is a fairly normal sentence honestly.

This is the reason mandatory minimum sentencing was introduced and also why its awful all in one gross moment.
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Metal_DK posted...

The hiring process of any job, for any person, is kinda discrimination already so it doesn't surprise me if people in general no matter what race/age/gender/etc think they are being discriminated against.

Here's a fun bit of music history:

For a very long time, orchestras had very few women in them. This wasn't due to any lack of musical skill - anyone who's heard Rachel Barton Pine or Jacqueline du Pr (or who's ever heard the tragic history of Clara Wieck Schumann) knows that women can perform music as well as any man. Now of course there were social forces at work prior to the 20th century that explained why female musicians rarely performed in public, but even well into the 1900s there just weren't very many women in high-profile positions (especially the big-name orchestras of the world).

Then, a few decades ago, orchestras started implementing blind auditions - wherein the judges sit behind a curtain or screen so that they can't see the musician auditioning but they can hear them play. As an added measure, these blind auditions usually take place in carpeted rooms (so that it's harder to determine what kind of shoes the musician is wearing based on the sound of their footsteps).

The result of this? Dramatically higher rates of women playing in orchestras. The current theory is that most of the audition judges were men, and they (consciously or subconsciously) favored auditions played by men while thinking less of auditions played by women. Once the judges could no longer easily determine what music was being played by whom, the gender gap essentially disappeared (because there's no inherent talent gap between the sexes).
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Yeah, there's been a push for resumes to not contain the name, age, sex etc. of an applicant in order to avoid subconscious discrimination.
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What does that have to with anything I posted? I'm not saying women don't get discriminated against. But for that particular instance, i was discriminated against because i was male. Thus, i can see why other men, or whites, or whatever group you think can't be discriminated against can obviously be.
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Flake isn't running for reelection:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/2017/10/24/republican-senator-jeff-flake-announces-not-running-senate-reelection-gop-primary-ward-trump/793952001/
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Very worth reading his speech as to why he is retiring.
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I guess it'll make it easier for the Democrats to flip that seat though their path for a majority still remains narrow.
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Did we cover Trump's latest temper tantrum against Corker yet? There's to many of these tweets for me to link to them all, but they're still at the top of his twitter timeline.

Bob Corker, who helped President O give us the bad Iran Deal & couldn't get elected dog catcher in Tennessee, is now fighting Tax Cuts....

...Corker dropped out of the race in Tennesse when I refused to endorse him, and now is only negative on anything Trump. Look at his record!

Isn't it sad that lightweight Senator Bob Corker, who couldn't get re-elected in the Great State of Tennessee, will now fight Tax Cuts plus!

Sen. Corker is the incompetent head of the Foreign Relations Committee, & look how poorly the U.S. has done. He doesn't have a clue as.....

...the entire World WAS laughing and taking advantage of us. People like liddle' Bob Corker have set the U.S. way back. Now we move forward!

I look forward to the very level headed response he has in response to Flake's latest criticism.
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The dumbest part is that those congressmen still voted along the trump line the vast majority of the time (iirc, corker is in the mid 80s). They could do so much more than make statements.
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Did we cover Trump's latest temper tantrum

I for one just assume that at all times Trump is throwing a temper tantrum and don't worry about the details too much.
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Tax Cuts PLUS
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Trump cares about legislation far less than kissing the ring
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Flake is the fourth most conservative member of the Senate, and he's still being run out for a lack of loyalty by the sitting president of the same party.

Peace___Frog posted...

The dumbest part is that those congressmen still voted along the trump line the vast majority of the time (iirc, corker is in the mid 80s). They could do so much more than make statements.

They likely agree with the policies he's putting forward, but disagree with his demeanor, attitude and interactions with foreign leaders.

I would not suddenly be anti-abortion just because someone who is also pro abortion is being a douchebag.
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sounds like something you can get off tv for four easy payments of $149.99
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Suprak the Stud posted...

They likely agree with the policies he's putting forward, but disagree with his demeanor, attitude and interactions with foreign leaders.

I would not suddenly be anti-abortion just because someone who is also pro abortion is being a douchebag.

So imagine how much more they could get done by impeaching him and having president pence
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I still feel it would be a pyrrhic victory for Republicans should they do that.
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Yeah. I'm just being silly. They've got themselves into such a mess, and it's entirely their fault.
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Not surprising from Fox, but come the fuck on:
https://twitter.com/jribas/status/922920622191034368
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Peace___Frog posted...

The dumbest part is that those congressmen still voted along the trump line the vast majority of the time (iirc, corker is in the mid 80s). They could do so much more than make statements.

That risks upsetting Trump's cult though. Basically they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. They have two choices at this moment:

A. Impeach Trump, put Pence in office--and then get more done. (And probably fuck the country over WAY more) but at the cost of making Trump supporters rabid and wanting their blood.

OR

B. Suck it up, make a few statements that vaguely criticize the president without going so far as to upset his base, and hope their voters replace the older generation who's numbers are starting to dwindle.

Seeing as doing B won't upset the evangelical base, or their old rich people base... they'll easily choose B. At least until Trump does something even they can't defend. (which isn't much, honestly. It's a very short list)
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Shaduln posted...

http://www.npr.org/2017/10/24/559604836/majority-of-white-americans-think-theyre-discriminated-against

Holy shit

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/10/20/penn-grad-student-says-shes-under-attack-teaching-technique-encourage-all-talk-class

It exists.
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did you... even read that link, corrik?
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Dancedreamer posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

The dumbest part is that those congressmen still voted along the trump line the vast majority of the time (iirc, corker is in the mid 80s). They could do so much more than make statements.

That risks upsetting Trump's cult though. Basically they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. They have two choices at this moment:

A. Impeach Trump, put Pence in office--and then get more done. (And probably fuck the country over WAY more) but at the cost of making Trump supporters rabid and wanting their blood.

OR

B. Suck it up, make a few statements that vaguely criticize the president without going so far as to upset his base, and hope their voters replace the older generation who's numbers are starting to dwindle.

Seeing as doing B won't upset the evangelical base, or their old rich people base... they'll easily choose B. At least until Trump does something even they can't defend. (which isn't much, honestly. It's a very short list)

I mean, Corker and Flake both essentially blew up their Senate career. Both knew in order to avoid a primary challenge they'd need to make comments supporting Trump and basically toe the line. They didn't, both have made huge public challenges to Trump, questioned his authority, questioned his ability to serve, and tore into him personally.

You can be upset they aren't doing more I suppose, or that more of their colleagues aren't joining in but this is a lot more than "making a few vague statements". Two Republican senators knowingly sunk any chance they had at reelection to oppose the president of their own party.
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Kenri posted...

did you... even read that link, corrik?

Yes. It is about a teacher who calls on Black Women first. Black Men Second. Minorities third. White women 4th. And if she has to white men last.

She says she does this as to implement diversity but what it actually does is just suppress opinions from White students specifically. Which is a discrimination by race.

This stuff happens in ways so much nowadays in ways that are justified to those doing it as right. Affirmative Action for the longest time was a mockery as it did what it supposedly was there in action against.

Thay said, do I personally feel I have been discriminated against? Not really. I have seen preferential treatment in the work force to other races than my own. But, at the end of the day, I have never felt discriminated against. I am just pointing out there is reasons why someone would feel that way being white though.

If your work is lax on an African-American calling off past the limit because he threatens to call NAACP, and a White man is fired when he went past that same limit.

Is it discrimination? I mean technically no because he did what was clearly written was fireable. Does it appear to be discrimination to him though if you did not do the same for the African-American Man? Preference can lead to feels of being discriminated.

Well, they let Sleepy over there miss 15 days because he threatened to call the NAACP and I missed 7 days and was fired. How the fuck does that make sense? It is a mentality.

These scenarios DO exist in workplaces also.
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Dunno if this was posted but

https://twitter.com/alexandraerin/status/922685223002890241

lol vlado
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Corrik posted...

She says she does this as to implement diversity but what it actually does is just suppress opinions from White students specifically. Which is a discrimination by race.

So you read the link, then took the exact opposite position it's arguing, but still tried to use it to support your argument?
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Kenri posted...

Corrik posted...

She says she does this as to implement diversity but what it actually does is just suppress opinions from White students specifically. Which is a discrimination by race.

So you read the link, then took the exact opposite position it's arguing, but still tried to use it to support your argument?

The article is one of 15 on it. It is a highered article.
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