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In my opinion the guy made his move on her, she rejected him and he took off. What's the problem? I understand it is invasive for someone to jump into the shower with you but it's not like he was trying to force himself on her and this whole reaction would make anyone think it was like that.

And, if on top of that, the girl eventually did have sex with him... Well, I guess it wasn't that traumatic experience. I'm not doing victim blaming but if you feel someone sexually assaulted you, it's kind of idiotic to continue traveling with the guy and even worse to end up sleeping with him. People that think that this is possible have no clue about what (real) sexual assault means for a person.

I know that I'm risking being banned for talking about this subject but in a sense I feel is kind of poetic this is happening. The community has been affected by hypersensitivity for a long time and a lot of people have been crucified for shit similar to this. Overreacting to stupid shit has been a staple of NeoGaf for a while.

I never cared for drama like this before so I'm not leaving this site. I really hope this puts shit in perspective for everyone who is quick to call for pitchforks. This is not a second chance for Evilore, it's a second chance for the community. Let's try to man up and behave like fucking adults and recognize real traumatic experiences as they are and stop trying to make any stupid sexual (or otherwise) advance into a rape attempt. Shit like that doesn't help real victims.

Let's talk about some fucking games. NeoGAF is the best community in my opinion. Let's try to keep it that way.

So according to the story, this girl had a consensual relationship with Tyler after the shower thing? Doesn't sound like she was too traumatized by it.

This girl could have called the police then, the next day or whenever. She never did. Instead apparently she traveled with him and continued to be friends for some time.

Does that sound like a traumatized person? How do you think something like that would look in front of a SANE jury?

Indeed, there is a $10,000,000 question embedded into that detail of the story. For all the praise the Klepek is receiving for getting the scoop, he throws that line out there in a single paragraph, dangling.

How do you do the interview and not ask her why she had sex with him? Or, perhaps Klepek did ask her and did not publish that information?

The question(s) linger(s).

soooo all this crap and she ended up having sex with him anyway? ... wow

Blown way too far out of proportion and I feel bad for some of people's outrage.

I think it's pretty funny.

The way this thing has turned out for Evillore is the epitomy of awkward gaf man.

I feel bad for both of them. But still, it's funny to me. But yeah shit hurricane for them.

I'm laughing though.

Thoughts and prayers.

If it's what Evilore says it was, then it's frightening to think what a scorned woman can do to a man several years after the fact.

And honestly, I'm inclined to believe him because no one could be THAT proud that they would prefer their site to burn to ashes rather than admit fault.. right?

Edit: Oh right I totally forgot that they continued a physical relationship afterwards. Yeah, it's not a good look for the accuser.

These guys would have been hit with the banhammer if this was about Weinstein or Trump. Yeesh.
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wow they sound like hardcore gamergaters or MRAs
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NeoGAF is essentially /r/the_donald but with left mindset instead.
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Ain't nobody got time

To read all that

Maybe they don't want to get banned but still want to talk about it.
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When your echo chamber turns inward and you can't tell what is an echo and what isn't.
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The only usernames I have recognized are ones criticizing the guy to be fair. Some of them haven't been banned (yet) but honestly I'd say the majority of them are gone or at least haven't come back.

All of the OT's in the community board are posters organizing their Discord channels to stay in touch.

It's just remarkable people posting this shit and not getting punished for it. It's complete opposite of what GAF usually is.
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Honestly that is a good question. If she felt assaulted why would she start a relationship with that guy later

Seems stupid
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this doesnt negate the fact that he has on many occasions grabbed women's asses. imagine all the other women who suffered because of him.
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darkprince45 posted...

Honestly that is a good question. If she felt assaulted why would she start a relationship with that guy later

Seems stupid

She forgave him.

The biggest issue is how he handles all of these interactions with women when called out on them. His response has been utterly pathetic.

If this was a one off story and he showed remorse he'd probably be fine. But his reputation and reaction to any criticism speaks for itself at this point.
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Fishy posted...

When your echo chamber turns inward and you can't tell what is an echo and what isn't.

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darkprince45 posted...

Honestly that is a good question. If she felt assaulted why would she start a relationship with that guy later

Seems stupid

Simple, she didn't. She shamelessly rode the sexual assault accusation wave to completely wreck someone's life all for some petty grudge.

A victim of what? Seeing a naked man in her vicinity?

Oh no! Its the naked man.

If you tell him to go away, he leaves! The horror!

Watch out! Its the naked man!

You need to stop getting high off your own drama.

So traumatic that she continued to hang out with him on multiple occasions and fucked him voluntarily afterwards.

But they ended up becoming friends and having sex later? I truly can't believe she was so horrified of him. Women don't forgive easily.

Eh theres some holes in her story. Like Evilore went into shower and she was apparently creeped out and it caused a bunch of shit with her BF, but then...has sex with him afterwards? All Im saying is that behavior wouldnt look good for her in front of a Jury. Olivia benson would have to spin some shit.

People who claim domestic abuse usually do so by going to the police. She did not. She stayed with him and continued to have relations - there is no evidence of trauma aside from a deleted Facebook message several years later. A Facebook message that also claimed she was harrassed several times that very same day by merely walking down the street.

This looks more like KotakuInAction holy shit
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BlkPopeIseem posted...

Simple, she didn't. She shamelessly rode the sexual assault accusation wave to completely wreck someone's life all for some petty grudge.

Doesn't help that he has a history of being a scumbag and then goes on to new heights of hypocrisy by championing all the SJW shit possible on his site. Someone else in this topic pointed out that if he didn't immediately go into panic mode and faced up to making a mistake like a man this shit would have blown over much faster.
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BlkPopeIseem posted...

darkprince45 posted...

Honestly that is a good question. If she felt assaulted why would she start a relationship with that guy later

Seems stupid

Simple, she didn't. She shamelessly rode the sexual assault accusation wave to completely wreck someone's life all for some petty grudge.

She posted in on Facebook and has been pretty open about her relationship with him. It seems pretty obvious she didn't see this reaction happening and it blowing up so much.

Doesn't change that he did a creep ass thing anyway.
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Darmik posted...

BlkPopeIseem posted...

darkprince45 posted...

Honestly that is a good question. If she felt assaulted why would she start a relationship with that guy later

Seems stupid

Simple, she didn't. She shamelessly rode the sexual assault accusation wave to completely wreck someone's life all for some petty grudge.

She posted in on Facebook and has been pretty open about her relationship with him. It seems pretty obvious she didn't see this reaction happening and it blowing up so much.

Doesn't change that he did a creep ass thing anyway.

Bullshit. You expect me to believe that viral fb post about something that happened years ago and posted NOW of all times is just a coincidence? She knew the effect it would have or was at least hoping for this effect.

Unquestionable posted...

BlkPopeIseem posted...

Simple, she didn't. She shamelessly rode the sexual assault accusation wave to completely wreck someone's life all for some petty grudge.

Doesn't help that he has a history of being a scumbag and then goes on to new heights of hypocrisy by championing all the SJW shit possible on his site. Someone else in this topic pointed out that if he didn't immediately go into panic mode and faced up to making a mistake like a man this shit would have blown over much faster.

"He's made mistakes before so she must be right"

You're using a painted narrative as your evidence. What "mistake"? There was none.

BlkPopeIseem posted...

Bulls***. You expect me to believe that viral fb post about something that happened years ago and posted NOW of all times is just a coincidence? She knew the effect it would have or was at least hoping for this effect.

So have you missed that women sharing their stories of sexual assault and harassment is a thing happening on social media right now? She was also hesitant to name him at all.
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Darmik posted...

BlkPopeIseem posted...

Bulls***. You expect me to believe that viral fb post about something that happened years ago and posted NOW of all times is just a coincidence? She knew the effect it would have or was at least hoping for this effect.

So have you missed that women sharing their stories of sexual assault and harassment is a thing happening on social media right now? She was also hesitant to name him at all.

That's my point. Guy does something questionably dumb. She continues to date him. Shit goes down then she bides her time until the day she can get her revenge. And what better time than when everyone is pointing fingers at any goddamn hombre willing to show a sliver of interest in a woman? Let's face it. Some of the accused deserve to be punished but the unfortunate side effect to this is innocent advances being prematurely labeled as sexual assault. Fucking reprehensible.

Yep. Women only call out creepy behaviour for revenge. Not because it's creepy behaviour that's sexual harassment.

If stripping down naked and approaching a vomiting woman in the bathroom is an innocent advance to you I'd hate to see your definition of a strong one.
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BlkPopeIseem posted...

Guy does something questionably dumb. She continues to date him.

That's not the story. You're changing the facts to make it fit your narrative.

When he got into the shower with her, she was dating someone else. They had a brief relationship later.

This topic is full of guys finding excuses for something that was unquestionably inappropriate. So what if she forgave him? That's the whole issue with these things being so common - the people who do them are often people you like that you want to maintain a relationship with. And no one would think it's a big deal anyway, after all he "only" snuck up naked behind her in the shower. So she let it slide, and now it's her fault for not being traumatized enough by it.
Look, there's no way to spin what he did into something appropriate.
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Memstar posted...

wow they sound like hardcore gamergaters or MRAs

Darmik posted...

This looks more like KotakuInAction holy shit

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Darmik posted...

Yep. Women only call out creepy behaviour for revenge. Not because it's creepy behaviour that's sexual harassment.

If stripping down naked and approaching a vomiting woman in the bathroom is an innocent advance to you I'd hate to see your definition of a strong one.

Then care to explain why she stayed with him afterwards and waited until NOW of all times to share this "horrifyingly traumatic" experience with the world? I know you'll white knight the fuck out of her waiting this long so let me say this guy had nothing over her so why would she continue to associate with him. Looks suspicious af.

scar the 1 posted...

BlkPopeIseem posted...

Guy does something questionably dumb. She continues to date him.

That's not the story. You're changing the facts to make it fit your narrative.

When he got into the shower with her, she was dating someone else. They had a brief relationship later.

This topic is full of guys finding excuses for something that was unquestionably inappropriate. So what if she forgave him? That's the whole issue with these things being so common - the people who do them are often people you like that you want to maintain a relationship with. And no one would think it's a big deal anyway, after all he "only" snuck up naked behind her in the shower. So she let it slide, and now it's her fault for not being traumatized enough by it.
Look, there's no way to spin what he did into something appropriate.

So where's the rest of the story? The part that justifies calling him a sexual fucking predator for doing something "not a big deal"? If it wasn't such a deal then wtf is there a post about it?

BlkPopeIseem posted...

Then care to explain why she stayed with him afterwards

Darmik posted...

She forgave him.

BlkPopeIseem posted...

waited until NOW of all times to share this "horrifyingly traumatic" experience with the world?

Darmik posted...

So have you missed that women sharing their stories of sexual assault and harassment is a thing happening on social media right now?

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BlkPopeIseem posted...

So where's the rest of the story? The part that justifies calling him a sexual f***ing predator for doing something "not a big deal"?

It's not up to you to decide if it was a big deal or not. She could think it's the smallest deal in the world. That doesn't change the fact that what he allegedly did is completely indefensible.
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scar the 1 posted...

BlkPopeIseem posted...

So where's the rest of the story? The part that justifies calling him a sexual f***ing predator for doing something "not a big deal"?

It's not up to you to decide if it was a big deal or not. She could think it's the smallest deal in the world. That doesn't change the fact that what he allegedly did is completely indefensible.

I was referring to what YOU said, not stating what I think. It's obvious you'll continue to twist my words to make me appear misogynistic so 4q.

Darmik posted...

She forgave him.

Posting about it in a hostile tone years later during a raging wave of accusations. Yeah that's some fucking forgiveness alright.

Darmik posted...

So have you missed that women sharing their stories of sexual assault and harassment is a thing happening on social media right now?

"It's a thing" is objectively not a fucking reason to ruin someone's life. Are you for real?!

I'm done. One day this shit will happen to you and you'll be bawling your eyes out facing the true terror of being mislabeled as the vilest of the vile and lose everything. Then the next time you'll think twice before dismissing the idea of opportunistic fucks among actual victims. To clarify, I'm not wishing it on anyone. I would never want to wish something like that on anyone less than deserving of it. In this case her shady af testimony merits investigation.

BlkPopeIseem posted...

scar the 1 posted...

BlkPopeIseem posted...

So where's the rest of the story? The part that justifies calling him a sexual f***ing predator for doing something "not a big deal"?

It's not up to you to decide if it was a big deal or not. She could think it's the smallest deal in the world. That doesn't change the fact that what he allegedly did is completely indefensible.

I was referring to what YOU said, not stating what I think. It's obvious you'll continue to twist my words to make me appear misogynistic so 4q.

Alright, I guess you're referring to when I said "no one would think it's a big deal anyway"? I'm saying that people (just look at this topic) aren't considering those actions a big deal. Knowing that in advance will discourage you to come forward, especially if you still care about the person who did it.
I think it is a big deal. A woman that he doesn't have an intimate relationship with is so drunk that she's in the bathroom throwing up and then takes a shower. He allegedly undresses her and follows her into the shower. How traumatized or not traumatized this makes her is completely irrelevant. That behavior is indefensible, and befits the epithet "sexual predator". I haven't once attempted to make you look misogynistic. Stop it with the victim complex.
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NeoGAF is dead.

Fake ass feminists lmao.
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When NeoGAF reverses its philosophy and ethics from "listen and believe women" to "question her story," you know NeoGAF is a motherfucking joke and I'm loving it.
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That official topic where he explains everything is so hilarious. Every other post is from someone who is now banned.

BlkPopeIseem posted...

I'm done. One day this shit will happen to you and you'll be bawling your eyes out facing the true terror of being mislabeled as the vilest of the vile and lose everything. Then the next time you'll think twice before dismissing the idea of opportunistic fucks among actual victims. To clarify, I'm not wishing it on anyone. I would never want to wish something like that on anyone less than deserving of it. In this case her shady af testimony merits investigation.

This made me laugh. I really wouldn't be surprised if this was an Evillore alt with how hard he's trying to ignore facts and hand wave a creepy situation into "but everyone is gonna do something similar at some point". Point being a drunken mistake won't ruin someone's life (well mistake on this minor level) but denying it heavily (when the victim was reluctant to name you in the first place) and having a history of questionable sexual harassment claims will put the nails in the coffin.
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BlkPopeIseem posted...

"It's a thing" is objectively not a fucking reason to ruin someone's life. Are you for real?!I'm done. One day this shit will happen to you and you'll be bawling your eyes out facing the true terror of being mislabeled as the vilest of the vile and lose everything. Then the next time you'll think twice before dismissing the idea of opportunistic fucks among actual victims. To clarify, I'm not wishing it on anyone. I would never want to wish something like that on anyone less than deserving of it. In this case her shady af testimony merits investigation.

Evilore drove that site into the ground himself over a number of years. He had multiple chances to fix the shit that the site festered. He instead decided to stroke his own ego and elitism instead thinking he's hot shit and letting his site go to hell and then some. The allegations were simply the straw the broke the camel's back.

He has nobody but himself to blame but we all know he's too petty and egotistical to do that.
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In a post about ResetEra;

While "fair minded, reasonable and transparent", pillars that the original NeoGAF had some problems with never to worry about recently, sound nice at first, this can obviously and easily translated as "SJW Heaven for SJWs". Also, in actuality probably no one's actually working on anything and this will just end up a big nothingburger due to nobody actually doing anyth-

Wow. This is the TC too. It's like seeing a bunch of new people move into a new house.
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Neogaf users making excuses for sexual harassment and assault is disgusting.
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LMAO. She was sooooo creeped out she fucked his brains out. LMAO. Are liberals serious here? Stop defending this chick.
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