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Milkman5
10/24/17 10:15:15 AM
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I read articles like the one about the professor intentionally calling white men last/treating them the worst on purpose and other cases of people in power being racist towards white males etc

and I just think there are probably a lot of white male liberals reading this same article overwrought with white guilt going "hell yeah, this is great"

the whole "racism is prejudice + power" liberals champion so much makes no sense especially in cases where a racist person has power over white people in the case of an employer, teacher etc

I have to wonder if white liberal males are just exclusively cucks or if there are any that have a reasonable argument that racism against whites is good other than the hatred of themselves and their own race
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NurseRedHeart
10/24/17 10:15:44 AM
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Giant_Aspirin
10/24/17 10:16:14 AM
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white male liberal reporting in. AMA

Milkman5 posted...
I have to wonder if white liberal males are just exclusively cucks or if there are any that have a reasonable argument that racism against whites is good other than the hatred of themselves and their own race


racism against whites is just as abhorrent as racism against any race -- to make a distinction is, itself, racist.
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MC_BatCommander
10/24/17 10:17:02 AM
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I'm a white liberal male and I don't support that shit at all, I doubt most of us do.
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Doom_Art
10/24/17 10:17:30 AM
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None of these anti-white stories you dredge up and get triggered over have ever had any noticable impact on my life
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Malcolm_McGuffi
10/24/17 10:18:20 AM
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Lol. I love this conservative straw Man of white liberals, like we're just brimming with "white guilt" and that's the only reason we believe in helping other people. Such a farce. Really says a lot about the people who peddle this myth. Maybe we just have more compassion than you do???
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/24/17 10:19:29 AM
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It's just the white guilt propaganda that's fed to them that gives them white guilt and thus they champion for things that discriminate againt them.

It's also that many of them don't believe that they will be affected by these things.
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Malcolm_McGuffi
10/24/17 10:20:11 AM
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Oh no Stormfront is here now
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Darkman124
10/24/17 10:20:28 AM
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Milkman5 posted...

I have to wonder if white liberal males are just exclusively cucks or if there are any that have a reasonable argument that racism against whites is good other than the hatred of themselves and their own race


this study on sexism in gaming communities and who does/doesn't exhibit it is a good illustration that extends to issues of race actually

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0131613

tl;dr: most of the sexism towards women in gaming communities comes from the men who perform worst in the community, and is built around establishing someone who is below even them, making sure they are not at the bottom

in the same sense, white male liberals are already pretty successful in society, and don't feel that making efforts to help minorities succeed are at cost to them. whereas the white men who feel threatened by those efforts likely were already under-performing relative to their peers

NINExATExSEVEN posted...
It's also that many of them don't believe that they will be affected by these things.


it's pretty much exclusively this, because white liberals tend to be middle or upper middle class.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
10/24/17 10:20:46 AM
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Well, I'm a white male liberal, my answer is simple. . . I don't support stupid SJW bullshit.
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John_Galt
10/24/17 10:21:29 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
It's just the white guilt propaganda that's fed to them that gives them white guilt and thus they champion for things that discriminate againt them.

Bingo
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ChromaticAngel
10/24/17 10:21:54 AM
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This is like asking what the mindset of a black female republican is.

When you stop perceiving the world as a competition between skin color and genitals, everything starts making a lot more sense.
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Malcolm_McGuffi
10/24/17 10:28:57 AM
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This whole topic is sad... It's basically a conservative cry for help. "Why can't you liberals just be conservative like the rest of your race so we can re-establish our dominance." Some real Darth Vader shit there bro.

I don't feel threatened by the fact that the country's going to be majority Hispanic in a few years or angry about my tax dollars going to help impoverished African American families trying to get by; that's what separates me from you. It's got nothing to do with guilt, only kindness, generosity, and probably several other positive traits on My Little Pony.

Matter of fact I wish the government would tax me more so I could do more to support my country. That's PATRIOTISM right there. Where's yours? Why are conservatives so unpatriotic? Lol, see I can do your shitty gimmick too.
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Darkman124
10/24/17 10:31:36 AM
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Malcolm_McGuffi posted...

I don't feel threatened by the fact that the country's going to be majority Hispanic in a few years


um we are nowhere close to that

Malcolm_McGuffi posted...

Matter of fact I wish the government would tax me more


i have good news and bad news for you
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Milkman5
10/24/17 10:32:51 AM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
This is like asking what the mindset of a black female republican is.

When you stop perceiving the world as a competition between skin color and genitals, everything starts making a lot more sense.


Liberals are constantly asking that. They even call black people who voted against liberals the T word. So why doesn't their own logic extend to themselves?
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/24/17 10:34:17 AM
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Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
This whole topic is sad... It's basically a conservative cry for help. "Why can't you liberals just be conservative like the rest of your race so we can re-establish our dominance." Some real Darth Vader shit there bro.

I don't feel threatened by the fact that the country's going to be majority Hispanic in a few years or angry about my tax dollars going to help impoverished African American families trying to get by; that's what separates me from you. It's got nothing to do with guilt, only kindness, generosity, and probably several other positive traits on My Little Pony.

Matter of fact I wish the government would tax me more so I could do more to support my country. That's PATRIOTISM right there. Where's yours? Why are conservatives so unpatriotic? Lol, see I can do your shitty gimmick too.


You're assumed to have white guilt because some of you white liberals aren't consistent in your beliefs against racism and discrimination. You're supposed to hate those 2 things in every situation because it's a form of bigotry againt people due to the circumstances of their birth. Circumstances they cannot change.

But instead some of you always hand wave away any racism or discrimination againt whites and even go as far as to defend those that discriminate againt whites and YOU as well.

That's why people assume white liberals on the left have white guilt.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
10/24/17 10:34:18 AM
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Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
I wish the government would tax me more so I could do more to support my country. That's PATRIOTISM right there.


Trying to buy patriotism isn't a good look when everyone knows so many conservatives express their patriotism, by actually fucking serving the country.

God fucking damn.
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Malcolm_McGuffi
10/24/17 10:38:41 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Trying to buy patriotism isn't a good look when everyone knows so many conservatives express their patriotism, by actually f***ing serving the country.

God f***ing damn.

LMAO. I forgot only conservatives have a monopoly on military service. I'm a liberal and I'm part of the military too, but ok whatevs!
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/24/17 10:39:39 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
I wish the government would tax me more so I could do more to support my country. That's PATRIOTISM right there.


Trying to buy patriotism isn't a good look when everyone knows so many conservatives express their patriotism, by actually fucking serving the country.

God fucking damn.


If he wants to be taxed more then be can give his own money away. I think i'd like to keep mine.
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Darkman124
10/24/17 10:40:25 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
I wish the government would tax me more so I could do more to support my country. That's PATRIOTISM right there.


Trying to buy patriotism isn't a good look when everyone knows so many conservatives express their patriotism, by actually fucking serving the country.

God fucking damn.


http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/05/does-the-military-vote-really-lean-republican/

36% describe themselves as Republicans, and 21% as Democrats

But there is conflicting evidence. The Center for Responsive Politics reported last month that self-described military personnel had donated $678,611 to Obama, 85% more than the $398,450 the Romney campaign has collected.


the only place the military is a conservative monolith is in the senior command structure. which is certainly not any more patriotic than those below them.

liberals serve their country too. try not to forget that.
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Balrog0
10/24/17 10:40:49 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Trying to buy patriotism isn't a good look when everyone knows so many conservatives express their patriotism, by actually fucking serving the country.

God fucking damn.


which of course means the ways of serving that conservatives feel are valuable, like LE or military service, rather than the much larger civilian bureaucracy which skews much more towards minorities and liberals

because service to your country only counts if you wear a uniform
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Malcolm_McGuffi
10/24/17 10:41:36 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
If he wants to be taxed more then be can give his own money away. I think i'd like to keep mine.

Of course, because you care about yourself first and foremost and liberals make room in their hearts for others, including strangers whom they've never met. That's part of what separates conservatives and liberals.
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Darkman124
10/24/17 10:41:47 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

If he wants to be taxed more then be can give his own money away. I think i'd like to keep mine.


we have a neat thing called 'voting' where if enough people want the rich to be taxed more then we can make that happen even if you don't like it

funny thing, representative democracy. your views are not automatically the ones that rule the day!
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fire810
10/24/17 10:42:14 AM
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it think it has to do with a submissive fetish
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The Great Muta 22
10/24/17 10:42:22 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
Liberals are constantly asking that. They even call black people who voted against liberals the T word. So why doesn't their own logic extend to themselves?


Perhaps you should stop viewing everyone as the extreme caricature that you've crafted them out to be in your mind?
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Antifar
10/24/17 10:43:14 AM
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The real divide in the military is on class, I'd imagine. Probably not a lot of rich families' kids enlisting.
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Malcolm_McGuffi
10/24/17 10:43:55 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
because service to your country only counts if you wear a uniform

It's basically the same John Kelly bullshit from the other day. If you aren't in the service (or buried under a cross at Arlington) you're not A "real patriot" or a "real American." I'm non-uniformed US Army and I think that's horse shit.
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Darkman124
10/24/17 10:45:28 AM
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Antifar posted...
The real divide in the military is on class, I'd imagine. Probably not a lot of rich families' kids enlisting.


naw, they go to USNA and fuck annapolis girls for 4 years (well, 3 years. plebe year is the year the school fucks you) before becoming ensigns

most of my friends in the military either went to a service academy or did ROTC at a 4-year university.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
10/24/17 10:46:35 AM
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Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
I forgot only conservatives


Only? Who the fuck but you is talking in absolutes?
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Darkman124
10/24/17 10:47:31 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...


Only? Who the f*** but you is talking in absolutes?

you
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COVxy
10/24/17 10:49:21 AM
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This is a silly topic.
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Malcolm_McGuffi
10/24/17 10:51:35 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
some of you white liberals aren't consistent in your beliefs against racism and discrimination

Yeah no shit. Probably because we're human beings, and no two human beings are consistent about everything, let alone millions and millions of us. Maybe instead of incorporating whatever scumbag the Daily Caller is outraging about today into your strawman conception of a guilt-addled SJW liberal, maybe fucking dial it down and recognize no group of people is a monolith, not liberals not Muslims not conservatives.
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/24/17 10:51:38 AM
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Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
If he wants to be taxed more then be can give his own money away. I think i'd like to keep mine.

Of course, because you care about yourself first and foremost and liberals make room in their hearts for others, including strangers whom they've never met. That's part of what separates conservatives and liberals.


I care about my family and their future. I want to have as much money as possible to give them a good future.

I've donated money many times to good organizations, but i don't trust the government to use my taxes for the good of other people.
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Perascamin
10/24/17 10:51:41 AM
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Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
Lol. I love this conservative straw Man of white liberals, like we're just brimming with "white guilt" and that's the only reason we believe in helping other people. Such a farce. Really says a lot about the people who peddle this myth. Maybe we just have more compassion than you do???

That's not what white guilt is.

White guilt is being a white person and observing a person of color with less qualifications than you get the job that you both applied for and saying that the other candidate likely deserved it more.

Another example is being a white person and being more outraged and offended about a non-black saying "n***a" in any capacity than a real life, living black person would be.
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/24/17 10:52:38 AM
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Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
some of you white liberals aren't consistent in your beliefs against racism and discrimination

Yeah no shit. Probably because we're human beings, and no two human beings are consistent about everything, let alone millions and millions of us. Maybe instead of incorporating whatever scumbag the Daily Caller is outraging about today into your strawman conception of a guilt-addled SJW liberal, maybe fucking dial it down and recognize no group of people is a monolith, not liberals not Muslims not conservatives.


I know. That's why i said "some of you".
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DreadedWave
10/24/17 10:57:32 AM
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Perascamin posted...
That's not what white guilt is.

Actually "white guilt" is the supposed guilt for racist or discriminatory acts perpetrated in the past against a particular minority by white people.

The way it's typically used by conservatives "You're only helping non-whites because of white guilt" is exactly what he described.
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Darkman124
10/24/17 11:00:05 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...


I know. That's why i said "some of you".


which
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Malcolm_McGuffi
10/24/17 11:01:19 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
I've donated money many times to good organizations, but i don't trust the government to use my taxes for the good of other people.

Assuming you're Americano, your fucking government's going to go bankrupt because conservative orthodoxy holds it isn't "fair" for people who make millions and millions to pay more than a few shekels in taxes. As a result your fucking countrymen are going to lose their fucking Social Security, they'll all get shafted on the benefits they've been paying into all their lives, plus they'll have no Medicare to boot. All because you're selfishly centered on hoarding the wealth of the universe for your blood relations and not helping other people. Me me me me me. My money. My life. My family. Everyone else can fuck off. That's what it all comes down to for you. Fuck the rest of the world, fuck people who are dying in other countries, fuck the poor who didn't make it for whatever reason, I only care about me and mine. I come first. You're selfish. You're not a patriot.
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pinky0926
10/24/17 11:05:35 AM
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COVxy posted...
This is a silly topic.


Just look who made it
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Perascamin
10/24/17 11:14:58 AM
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If...the United States ever entered a very serious financial crisis, they're to a point that they could just annex whoever they wanted whenever they wanted and no one could really stop them.
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Malcolm_McGuffi
10/24/17 11:15:54 AM
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Perascamin posted...
If...the United States ever entered a very serious financial crisis, they're to a point that they could just annex whoever they wanted whenever they wanted and no one could really stop them.

Pretty sure we would lose a conventional war with china.
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pinky0926
10/24/17 11:16:53 AM
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Perascamin posted...
If...the United States ever entered a very serious financial crisis, they're to a point that they could just annex whoever they wanted whenever they wanted and no one could really stop them.


Just print more money, what could go wrong
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foreveraIone
10/24/17 11:17:05 AM
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Perascamin posted...
If...the United States ever entered a very serious financial crisis, they're to a point that they could just annex whoever they wanted whenever they wanted and no one could really stop them.

not like Russia has thousands of nukes

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Anarchy_Juiblex
10/24/17 11:17:51 AM
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Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
Pretty sure we would lose a conventional war with china.


Lol no. Their Navy and Air Force is shit.
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Darkman124
10/24/17 11:20:58 AM
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Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
Perascamin posted...
If...the United States ever entered a very serious financial crisis, they're to a point that they could just annex whoever they wanted whenever they wanted and no one could really stop them.

Pretty sure we would lose a conventional war with china.


our doctrine and theirs are so orthogonal it's nearly impossible to compare
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Perascamin
10/24/17 11:21:09 AM
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Well, look how Russia took over Crimea. That's all the US would have to do, take over small things like that.

They could start with Mexico and Canada, then slowly make their way into conquering all of South America.
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C_Pain
10/24/17 11:22:17 AM
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White SJWs are white supremacists who feel guilty that they hold power in society so intentionally put themselves and their group down.
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Doom_Art
10/24/17 11:38:19 AM
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C_Pain posted...
White SJWs are white supremacists who feel guilty that they hold power in society so intentionally put themselves and their group down.

that doesn't make any sense
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/24/17 12:21:23 PM
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Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
I've donated money many times to good organizations, but i don't trust the government to use my taxes for the good of other people.

Assuming you're Americano, your fucking government's going to go bankrupt because conservative orthodoxy holds it isn't "fair" for people who make millions and millions to pay more than a few shekels in taxes. As a result your fucking countrymen are going to lose their fucking Social Security, they'll all get shafted on the benefits they've been paying into all their lives, plus they'll have no Medicare to boot. All because you're selfishly centered on hoarding the wealth of the universe for your blood relations and not helping other people. Me me me me me. My money. My life. My family. Everyone else can fuck off. That's what it all comes down to for you. Fuck the rest of the world, fuck people who are dying in other countries, fuck the poor who didn't make it for whatever reason, I only care about me and mine. I come first. You're selfish. You're not a patriot.


Dude calm down.
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Malcolm_McGuffi
10/24/17 12:29:24 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
Pretty sure we would lose a conventional war with china.


Lol no. Their Navy and Air Force is shit.

Japan sunk our Pacific fleet at Pearl Harbor, but we quickly tooled up and outproduced them through the might of our industry. China has all the industry.
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