Board 8 > kpop topic - theunitmixnine edition

(+) Yeah! (+)

I kind of like trainees on The Unit (of which there are only 2, though both were decently hyped) as grim spectres of the market. It's a reminder that the field is oversaturated enough that you can have a show about rebooting failed idols, but you can also not have a show about rebooting failed idols because there is no shortage of new blood. Plus they're probably at a bit of a disadvantage anyway since they're being held to the standards of debuted idols with years of experience when they have none. I imagine it will matter less and less as the show goes though, like how no one cared that Nu'est was a veteran group on Broduce by the end.

I haven't been checking in on Mixnine lately, and now there are a bunch of auditions and self-cams. Every time I think i'm going to power through YG being a creep and catch up with it, i hear some shit like 'they made Han Hyeri cry' or something. I have too many faves on there not to, though.
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paerarru posted...

As you know, Dal Shabet and MelodyDay all the way for me, if they don't put in at least one of each I'mma have to cap someone, lolz.

Woohee and Chahee pls.

paerarru posted...

They didn't show much Brave Girls, I'm not even sure if they all passed, but yeah them, too.

Eunji and Yujeong did. Yuna didn't.

paerarru posted...

that Good Day girl whose talent is smiling

Jiwon, and yeah she's aight. Good Day as a group has been getting an inordinate amount of screen time, but they're all p. likeable.

paerarru posted...

(Timothy?)

Timoteo. Tbh, I wasn't that impressed by their audition. Nor Ji Hansol's from ep. 3.
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watched Mixnine ep.2, and now I need to stan ACE. Also really liked 24k's teamwork. A lot of good groups with nice stories, but man that was a lot of YG.

Also, lowkey here for Yongchae of Black Mamba, the one who kept trashing her members, because I think she'll be entertaining.
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finished about an hour ago doing 2 posts a minute

practice videos up for the unit's mv mission on vlive (w/ names - https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/7dgf8q/the_unit_my_turn_unitb_unitg_full_cam_versions/)

if you ever wondered what jiwon from good day looks like without the eye smile - http://www.vlive.tv/video/48589

also

Dia - Fly Girl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbVcsKm2Uy4
how did i not know she put out an album in june? well, there's an MV now. good song.
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PumpkinCoach posted...

It's a reminder that the field is oversaturated enough that you can have a show about rebooting failed idols, but you can also not have a show about rebooting failed idols because there is no shortage of new blood.

lol... I see what you mean, we've reached the point where it's double saturated, from both sides. I understand. There's a reason why a lot of these "last chance" stories have been cropping up lately after all, why there's a whole show about it... at least in premise. It's just with the years going by I've started to think that yeah maybe there's a little too many of them... I always disliked thinking that way but in this post PD101 era I just find myself not giving a hoot about some of them, it's harsh. I guess one needed to see the actual competition aspect in better focus.

Every time I think i'm going to power through YG being a creep and catch up with it, i hear some shit like 'they made Han Hyeri cry' or something.

Hahahaha, his face when JYP will judge his trainees though XD

Also, lowkey here for Yongchae of Black Mamba, the one who kept trashing her members, because I think she'll be entertaining.

Hehe, I think the producer lowkey asked him to pick her, he wasn't going to pass on that, either.

Eunji and Yujeong did. Yuna didn't.

Nod. As I feared. It's weird because she's not on the main page, I guess because she wasn't back for ep. 3, either. They did need 7x9 only, so.

Speaking of, after watching ep. 3 I discovered The Unit's main page and there's a load of stuff for it, too! I've just started to plunder its riches. Ep. 3 was great, perfs are good and all but this is where the good stuff is! I gotta say before I forget though wow, Matilda's not kidding around. Add Saebyeol to the list of must have members!

But yeah I know I'm gonna have to go back and watch the formation of the teams one more time. I see the difference between the boys and the girls, and yet there are some similarities, too. I loved seeing Serri be so ambitious! She just dragged Woohee and went straight for Jiwon haha. But yeah the Melody Day - DIA alliance, no need to overthink it, just get together lol! They were the winning team, right? For the boys, were the Avengers team the main team? See I didn't even notice that. And Hyunjoo with her school friend the HUB girl is just too cute.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75995129

Cast your vote if you haven't! And if it looks like your pick might not win, even more reason to cast your vote!
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Red Velvet - Peek-A-Boo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uJf2IT2Zh8

so good
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yes

The Unit first rankings:
https://robyul.chat/theunit/girls/
https://robyul.chat/theunit/boys/

i can't believe saebyeol is going to rise 57 spots over the next few weeks to take her place as unit centre.

skimming the clips on youtube - did they not show unit g yellow or just didn't make clips with them? i need yena (g-reyish) to rise.
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PAB is an interesting comeback. Now that the new generation starts to mature, I can't help feeling a bit of nostalgia...

PumpkinCoach posted...

skimming the clips on youtube - did they not show unit g yellow or just didn't make clips with them? i need yena (g-reyish) to rise.

I don't know, Pumpkin, stop making me care about nugu groups! :p I shouldn't even know who G-reyish are, smh. (just kidding, I don't know, I'll take a look)

Speaking of I've watched Fromis Room eps. 0-2 subbed, and ep. 3 raw. Okay like I said, I like it but I think that's mostly because I already like the girls. It's nothing special, I mean it's not bad or anything, it's a lot like Girls Go To School, just a classic pre-debut reality show. So it's good because it lets you get to know them better. I think if you have at least a minimal interest in them you will enjoy it, at least not hate it. If you absolutely don't care what happens to them though...

Do cast your vote if you haven't! Who knows, yours may be the one that decides the winner.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/76003553
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i actually don't know g-reyish either, but she seems like a good centre, and i think she'd be popular if she had the screen time and i want to be proven right.

yeah, maybe i'll hold off on the fromis show for now. maybe go back to it if i really like their debut.
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PumpkinCoach posted...

skimming the clips on youtube - did they not show unit g yellow or just didn't make clips with them? i need yena (g-reyish) to rise

Wow, they were skipped entirely what the fuck. Good episode otherwise, though. The dating ban segment was funny.

I looked up Good Day, and just found out that there are 4 more members that are not on The Unit. Also, they have 3 Jiwons (Jiwon, Genie, Viva), and I wonder how they chose who got to keep the name.
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whoa, no one told me lucy auditioned for mixnine. didn't make it, though.

Lucy - B-Day (feat. Kisum)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp_BZXOI3WA
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PumpkinCoach posted...

I looked up Good Day, and just found out that there are 4 more members that are not on The Unit. Also, they have 3 Jiwons (Jiwon, Genie, Viva), and I wonder how they chose who got to keep the name.

Wow so there's 10 of them? That's bold! And they just came out what, 3 months ago. The Unit is just the perfect spot for them to continue promotions, lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TPdaG_FZiQ

They have some nice dance covers, too. Also I think Lucky stole everyone's heart. The waterworks never fail. She's adorbs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6SVYeAXYsA
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watching TWICE's likey again right now but lolling when I see the Canada Post in the background

I need to go to vancouver
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why did they ever put lucky in those buns.

excited for the position battle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vkAbWEQ1Ew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEL2nq5Cp_8

and

KARD - You In Me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1aGbpn-NUI
a return to form.

CelesMyUserName posted...

watching TWICE's likey again right now but lolling when I see the Canada Post in the background

the terry fox run banner got me. i didn't even notice canada post.
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CelesMyUserName posted...

I need to go to vancouver

April-September and you're in for some solid weather. Makes for some great adventuring.
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ken hoang
matty whitmore
michelle chase
paloma soto-castillo

Finally watched ep. 3. So much stuff going on, as feared even if they made the episodes two hours long, heck three hours long it wouldn't be enough time to cover so many people. This is why Matilda is so low in rankings for example, they've barely shown them besides their performance. Screen time is gold.

Nari did great, I think Wassup have got more recognition so far than they did in the what 4 years since their debut. And they're not that unknown. She's 21st and if she keeps getting just a little screen now and then she's got a chance.

I think the Hyunjoo/Hyosun drama was so dumb. And how about Areum and the trot girl. Man have you ever seen idols this frayed? They just went through a hell of pressure...

I like how Chahee just gave up her position to Euijin, that's thinking for the team, and Euijin teaching that girl wahh, I got good flashbacks.

Too bad about the guy who twisted his ankle (U-kiss?). Man I don't know about performing like that, that's dangerous. Also I'm no expert but, I didn't think Red team was the best, but I guess they did it with practically no mistakes.

Pumpkin you mentioned wanting to do a contest for music videos, do you still want to do that?
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the unit > mixnine at this point. my god is mixnine out of tricks.

paerarru posted...

Pumpkin you mentioned wanting to do a contest for music videos, do you still want to do that?

i just meant someone should, though i might. thought about doing something with my year-end song list too if i can be bothered, if only because cutting it down to a top 64 is easier than a top 50.
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up
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PumpkinCoach posted...

i just meant someone should, though i might. thought about doing something with my year-end song list too if i can be bothered, if only because cutting it down to a top 64 is easier than a top 50

Okay, well I think it's a nice idea. Or one for just the year is good, too.

the unit > mixnine at this point. my god is mixnine out of tricks.

lol, how far along are you on YG's magical mystery tour? I just watched ep. 4. Their rooms look nice, they're actual rooms for one thing, looks like they're in this big resort for location. I liked "Just Dance" more than I thought. It's got yet another backpack kid choreo. I think going for top 9 representative of the class was a gamble, because if you do really well you might go up, but if you do bad then you might go down. So for C class it was good, an extra chance with nothing to lose, but for A class maybe it's not such a bad idea to lay low for now. During the stage taping/judging Jennie was beautiful as always.

Yeah Mixnine copies a lot from PD101, but it's like a poor version of it. There's even so many faces from PD101, and there could have been even more. However Mixnine competition is still interesting since for the most part Mixnine has mostly newer groups and trainees as contestants. There's more contestants I'm interested in than I thought, too, even if many of them barely get 10 seconds of screen time. So it's still worth watching even though yeah, as a show it's not that good. My new favorites are Bonus Baby. Also that one girl from Polaris. Maybe she's a future Loona! Also I like Eyedi, but you gotta admit she's a bit arrogant lol... of course I'm sure there's plenty PD101 editing there.

Also looks like ACE are doing well on both shows!
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I've only seen up to the ep. 3, so I imagine it picks up after auditions, which were interminable. It was profoundly silly how often they did the thing where YG picks his trainees, then says he'll take 1 or 2 more after all. It's presented as a twist, but it doesn't work when it happens every time! It was funny when Moonhee (Bonus Baby) herself specifically suggested he take 1 more member from those who failed, and I was thinking whether they scripted that for her or if she heard about it from one of the 10 other agencies where it happened. Plus it made YG's already arbitrary selection process feel even more arbitrary, and seems to exist as a show of his benevolence, either as an ill-advised attempt to humanise him or just another power trip. They even did a "I'm taking none lol just kidding I'm taking all" once, which was the worst.

Like Produce 101, it tries to play everything for the highest drama, but not only am I already too familiar with its editing tricks, the editing seems sloppier than ever. Ep. 3 had people's faces randomly blurred as, I think, a solution to hide how poorly spliced together it is. They've always used canned reactions, but once they cut from YG at a nighttime audition to a reaction on the bus filmed in daytime. They also kept using the same type of reactions for the same ends, especially the one where they cut to girls on the bus looking blank/salty during certain girls' auditions. People say they like these for the mess and the drama, but that desire is really going to have to do most of the work to overlook how contrived it is. The most confusing bit was in ep. 3 during that Bonus Baby audition, where they kept cutting to Hayoon looking at Moonhee, and girls with the above expression during Hayoon's audition, and it was not at all clear what was being expressed, except you've watched this enough to know that they're maybe going for jealousy? There are other times where they do the same thing with more to work with like a voiceover, but here they had nothing but decided to go for it anyway with no pay off.

Then there's the one day missions, which go by like a blur. Ep. 3 fleshed it out some, but the way they had it in ep. 2 makes no sense. They barely establish what it is, show nothing of the perfomances, then on a static screen let you know that 9 people on the debut bus you barely know have been replaced by 9 other people you barely know. They constantly play up what a big deal it is to be on the debut bus, then weirdly undercuts it completely here. A lot of the show is a blur actually, like we'll see a few seconds of an audition or people getting on the bus with text underneath letting you know who they are and which bus they're on. I get that they can't show everyone, because they need to devote half the show to YG the real star, but these are so insubstantial that it just adds to the information overload and should probably have been cut entirely if they're going to do it that way. It's like they have one editor who is cavalier about splicing in footage wherever, and one who is obsessed with filling continuity gaps and letting you know who's on the bus even if you don't/can't care.

oops, sorry for the rant.

yeah, I'll keep watching this for more heel Eyedi. I agree with your new faves, plus my boys Taewoon, and Woo Jinyoung (micheoji) though they're not exactly new.
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I watched Mixnine ep. 4, and yeah, this is such a Produce 101 reunion. Episode came in strong with screen time for my faves: a lot of good Taewoon stuff, a few Eyedi scenes, and some Lee Soomin reactions which is at least more than she's been getting.

-Taewoon remains awkward and likable, but also demonstrates the Wisdom of a senior of 7 years. Seeing him in an idol context makes me miss Speed so fucking much.
- Eyedi is the fucking best. I love her arrogance/confidence, and I hope she never changes. I don't know if it's intentional, it might just be a blatant hit job which some people would fall for, but since she never responds to all the criticism with more than mild bemusement, she still comes off looking well to me. She can't really help that she has a permanently arrogant face even when neutral. Though this is all helped by how I already like her songs so I think any attitude is warranted.
- Wow, that A Class self-vote was brutal. I'm glad Lee Soomin stayed out of that mess and only reacted.
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It's okay if you rant, let it all out. :)

Yes, auditions went on too long. But that explains the whole "400 contestants will participate" thing. It's curious because they could have skipped them, like these shows usually start with ep. 4, maybe ep. 3.5. So actually I'm glad they showed this extra step. It's a nasty step, specially with YG, but still. You're right, a big part of what made them so bad was the terrible editing and script. It is horrible, and I see what you mean about its tricks. Yes drama is entertaining, but not if it's the same thing we've seen 100 times before and you're just forcing it. Plus it's just cruel at times. Heck I'm starting to rethink PD101! That's really bad!

PumpkinCoach posted...

It was funny when Moonhee (Bonus Baby) herself specifically suggested he take 1 more member from those who failed, and I was thinking whether they scripted that for her or if she heard about it from one of the 10 other agencies where it happened.

Yes hahaha! I think anybody who follows these must have thought the same. It's really cool if it would be true right, but it just looked contrived if not downright fake. They're ruining their own show. In fact ratings I heard are in the pits, like 0%. People hate the show.

either as an ill-advised attempt to humanise him or just another power trip.

XD Something I didn't know that I noticed about him is that he's SO distant. It comes out really cold and unapproachable, but I've heard that he's actually very shy. However this goes beyond the most painful introversions. If you're that introverted you can't afford to be arrogant. I'm sorry but I'm starting to feel pity for the guy.

It's like they have one editor who is cavalier about splicing in footage wherever, and one who is obsessed with filling continuity gaps and letting you know who's on the bus even if you don't/can't care.

lol... you're just hitting the nail on the head over and over, Pumpkin. It's a mess, plain and simple. But again, it's not the poor boys and girls fault that yg and pd-nim are such a nasty combination. Shrug.

yeah, I'll keep watching this for more heel Eyedi. I agree with your new faves, plus my boys Taewoon, and Woo Jinyoung (micheoji) though they're not exactly new.

Alright :) I'll root for Eyedi too, not gonna lie not the least because that resting b face of her is not at all unattractive. Taewoon is the rapper guy right? Hold on... he's Zico's brother!? Wow lol... that's tough to get away from, man.

- Wow, that A Class self-vote was brutal. I'm glad Lee Soomin stayed out of that mess and only reacted.

I know right! Not a healthy environment. Well in the end I'm fine with Sujin rising back to the top and getting center. I think it's safe to consider her the first lock-in for the girls.

Looks like TU ep. 5 got subs already! That's fast. I might watch it tonight.
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therock1525 posted...

asuka isn't losing a damn match until she holds the title at least once. you'd have to be fucking stupid to think otherwise. and you'd have to be especially dumb to think she'd lose in a fucking survivor series match.

hey, wwe has done stupider!

womam

aw yeah BoA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rgFKEv2KHo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i4Y7SwaCQI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKSWNlgvVI
and jihyo goddamn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RNyE0fgoN4
and wonho goddamn

and a bunch of [ctrl+v] AKB48&CHUNG HA&Weki Meki&PRISTIN&fromis_9&Idol School Class 1 stages, including some pick me for old time's sake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd8rlfQazrA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU8ZlXUjfkc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_5qzkFgr9E
just rubbing salt in haein's wounds.

(side note: when did fromis turn into fromis_9)

they announced Produce 48 for next year, an AKB48 + Produce 101 collab. no idea what that's going to be about.
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i never posted these, but i'm glad KBS gave the second place teams for the MV mission a stage too:

Unit B Red + Unit G Red - My Turn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuEEx3ovOro

Unit B Black + Unit G White - My Turn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb7FQGTLRxY
mostly posting to say - chaesol a top visual, good thumbnail choice.

I've seen ep.5 of The Unit, but not Mixnine. Might do a fuller account of the shows together when I do, now that Mixnine subs have picked up the pace (though the bigger challenge was always steeling myself for YG, but I hear he's less present in the latest so hey).
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paerarru posted...

Alright :) I'll root for Eyedi too, not gonna lie not the least because that resting b face of her is not at all unattractive. Taewoon is the rapper guy right? Hold on... he's Zico's brother!? Wow lol... that's tough to get away from, man.

yeah, Taewoon, better known as Zico's brother. As you expected, it comes up a lot. He first debuted in 2010 with Co-Ed School, which was the same group Chanmi was in (Mixnine better give me that reunion on screen).

Somehow my favourite contestant on the trainee show is an industry veteran of 7 years, and my favourite contestant on the debuted idol reboot show is a 13-year-old trainee.

paerarru posted...

I know right! Not a healthy environment. Well in the end I'm fine with Sujin rising back to the top and getting center. I think it's safe to consider her the first lock-in for the girls.

See, I don't even know how the final group will be chosen. Ep. 4 devoted like a third of the screen time and gave the full pyramid treatment to rankings based on just live audience and judges, so are those being weighted more heavily?
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okay, i know i shouldn't be shocked by mixnine's editing anymore, but i just had to pause it a minute in... did they really spend a third of last episode getting up to the top 10 only to spend 20 seconds total to announce whether the boys or girls team won, announce 5th place for the boys, 7th place for the girls, and then 1st place for both?

also, just discovered Dain (Wassup) is on the show because she got her first second of screen time.
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NEW YOUNHA ALBUM INCOMING FELLAS

HOLLAAAAAAAAAAA
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hell yes.

Pentagon - Violet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A-xrTnIlOw

Pentagon - Runaway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGqX-2y5_ac

pentagon is hitting their stride. edawn's part in violet is ace.
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i'm living for IU singing in cantonese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBI_NWFTdBE
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PumpkinCoach posted...

and a bunch of [ctrl+v] AKB48&CHUNG HA&Weki Meki&PRISTIN&fromis_9&Idol School Class 1 stages, including some pick me for old time's sake

That was glorious.

(side note: when did fromis turn into fromis_9)

I know, that's annoying. On the plus side I really like their pre-debut song and I think their debut will go well. Looks like you might have to watch fromis room after all! At least it should all be subbed by then, and it's not very long. :)

they announced Produce 48 for next year, an AKB48 + Produce 101 collab. no idea what that's going to be about.

No one knows exactly what this is yet. I'm hoping it will be full scale Seoul48. Japanese invasion!
(yikes...)

yeah, Taewoon, better known as Zico's brother. As you expected, it comes up a lot. He first debuted in 2010 with Co-Ed School, which was the same group Chanmi was in (Mixnine better give me that reunion on screen).

Snap, Speed is the boys unit of Co-Ed School! Amazing how something like that barely gets mentioned in the show. I'm telling you they don't care at all about their background stories.

See, I don't even know how the final group will be chosen. Ep. 4 devoted like a third of the screen time and gave the full pyramid treatment to rankings based on just live audience and judges, so are those being weighted more heavily?

Shrug. Mixnine is so bad and confusing. Boys vs girls is the most ridiculous thing I heard all week. We knew since the end of the previous episode (I was trying to convince myself there must have been a mistake), so it's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in two weeks. This is a show where half of its viewers are guaranteed to get royally pissed in the last episode.

okay, i know i shouldn't be shocked by mixnine's editing anymore, but i just had to pause it a minute in... did they really spend a third of last episode getting up to the top 10 only to spend 20 seconds total to announce whether the boys or girls team won, announce 5th place for the boys, 7th place for the girls, and then 1st place for both?

Was that what they did lol. I'm telling you, it's so bad. I'm just treating it as a showcase for up and coming trainees and their groups (but of course those who have nowhere else to go just get screwed). But maybe this is one supergroup we could do without anyways, as this year the competition and saturation have reached untenable levels.

also, just discovered Dain (Wassup) is on the show because she got her first second of screen time.

That's funny. Yet another group fighting the battle on both fronts. Speaking of! I saw Rui on Boombayah and remembered oh yeah, she's in the show, too! Pretty high ranked actually.

But yeah, what a mess. No comparison with The Unit, such a good show. Ep. 5 was great! And having all groups from the same gender go in one episode is so much more sensible. The boys won't get much time before the votes are in, but at least it's fair for everyone.

So good though. I can't pick which team I liked best! Crazy team (blue) was the most stacked I think, that was scary hahaha. But all the teams were great. Were you guys able to pick a favorite team?
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There's an interesting contrast between the two shows. I wouldn't say Mixnine is terrible, just very uneven, nor would I say The Unit is without flaws. In this topic, I've had more to say about Mixnine because in a way, it's more interesting, for better or worse. I'm not hate-watching it exactly, but I'll admit, "how bad can the editing get?" is at least part of the hook at this point. The Unit, in contrast, has a feelgood atmosphere and a high level of polish, which makes it generally pleasant to watch, but can feel a bit safe at times. Whereas Mixnine would overplay its hand trying to heighten the drama, The Unit almost seems to abhor drama. It's kind of admirable how even-handed The Unit is. We always see the resolution of conflicts, and no one is made to look like the villain. Like in ep. 5, Yena finally got some screen time, where she came off domineering and contributing to the low morale of the group, but not only did the group patch it up in the end, I think they specifically gave Yena herself extra talking head segments to explain her perspective better, and to keep her role in the conflict from being her defining character.

At least a part of this is down to the nature of the contestants, though. It stands to reason that older, more experienced idols would be better at working together and putting their egos aside than trainees. Like all that showboating and trashtalking from the 'Very Good' team? You can't goad that out of experienced idols with media training.

Mixnine is very unclear about rankings, which is its biggest non-YG problem. It's hard to be invested in the results when you don't know what they're for, and especially when considering that judges' votes account for 50% of the showcase ranking, but without knowing how the showcase rank is weighted for the final rank, it means they can do whatever the fuck they want. Like yeah, I can see why they would think Lee Soomin ranking unexpectedly low for a thing might be dramatic, but it's too transparent.

Now, notes on The Unit ep.5 specifically:
- I'm not sure going without a backtrack worked for them. Most people don't appreciate the effort, and it stacks the deck against them heavily. Covers invite comparison, and the original singers don't even sing it completely live. It's not even about ability necessary, because 'Crazy', for instance, needs the backtrack to fill out the sound, or parts of it comes off like a lot of shouting. At the least, it would have saved us from the same arguments under every video.
- Lee Joohyun slays. People keep saying she should be on Mixnine, but pfft that's bush league when she's out here showing up debuted idols.
- See, that bit of contrived drama for the black team, with the dance trainer dropping by unannounced and scolding them for taking a justifiable break, is a good argument for how they're no good at drama and shouldn't bother.
- Somyi being proud of getting the wide room was adorable. I hope she gets more screen time because what little she gets is gold.
- I like how Yoonjo constantly sounds fed up. If she wouldn't rather run out of the room than confront the tension, she'd be good for drama, because she has hilariously little tact when she eventually did talk and was basically roasting everyone unintentionally ("Melody Day? You're not famous. DIA? People only know Chaeyeon").
- Did they really cannabalize Haein's lines by arguing that she has ad-libs come on we all know those don't count.
- The youngest member teaching the choreography has been a consistent implicit theme across a lot of teams, on this show about has-beens and never-wases running out of time as they push against encroaching modernity.
- Chaesol kind of has a Chaeyeon vibe, and I do not get why her rank is low.
- You're the Best > GNAAL > Gee > Rough > Crazy > Red Flavour > Heart Attack.
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And Mixnine:
- On the whole, it's better than before. There's less YG, and more structure. Performances were more exciting than The Unit's, partly because position battles are inherently more interesting than covers, and because The Unit went minimal not only backtracks, but in stage dressing. This was a lot flashier. Plus The Unit was a big room of people encouraging each other, while this is very much a competition.
- I feel like they didn't really convey why Hyojin was the male centre before, but I get it now. It was funny how he was out of his depth as a leader basically within seconds of getting the position, but he's adorable so you don't mind that he's fucking up. For all the hype over angel leader edits in these shows, Hyojin made incompetent leader work.
- It is good that the nerds who named themselves after anime, and can't stop saying "bamm!" got their comeuppance for being little shits.
- Woo Jinyoung! Park Haeyoung! Lee Soohyun! I mostly watched this episode spotting and rooting for Produce 101 people.
- Not from this episode, but I watched Lee Soomin's fancam and yesss she's reunited with Kim Sihyeon. Shin and Chanmi are also on that team. I'm pretty sure there's enough for a full 101 team on this show.
- I basically agree with all the results, though not the proportion of votes.
- People better be voting for Yongchae. Turns out she's great onstage as well as off.

paerarru posted...

Amazing how something like that barely gets mentioned in the show. I'm telling you they don't care at all about their background stories.

Yeah, it's not the focus of the show. Easier for YG to take credit I suppose.

paerarru posted...

This is a show where half of its viewers are guaranteed to get royally pissed in the last episode.

On the bright side, the FAVE group could debut earlier (I'm assuming the boys will win).

paerarru posted...

That's funny. Yet another group fighting the battle on both fronts.

Oops, I should have said "former Wassup" :(
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yes i will

Hmm, I like The Unit better but yeah, maybe a lot of it is it's just more my style. I agree that Mixnine is more dramatic.

I started liking Joohyun much better this episode. I still think on principle she shouldn't be on the show, but if she's this good and more importantly this likable then eh, what's it matter.

Yoonjo's expression was like "what the heck do you want me to do". Interesting parallel between her and Hyojin on Mixnine, except completely different.

At least giving a couple lines to sing to rappers who couldn't get parts is easier than forcing a vocalist to rap. Still nobody's happy, of course.

Yeah, it's not as if idols of yore didn't learn any choreo. It's just that they didn't usually need to learn their contemporaries'. At this rate you're bound to run into an idol having to perform their own song hahaha. It's already almost happened a couple times.

The girls victory on Mixnine was a small satisfaction, yes. That was a good battle though. I liked the girls vocals team, got a couple new girls I like.

PumpkinCoach posted...

- Not from this episode, but I watched Lee Soomin's fancam and yesss she's reunited with Kim Sihyeon. Shin and Chanmi are also on that team.

Oh, this probaby will be my favorite team then lol.

Oops, I should have said "former Wassup" :(

Ah, I gotcha.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQMNWubVwAAzr98.jpg
https://twitter.com/cubeunited/status/937607840088260608

omg yes ;_; it's a start at least.

now watch them cancel it later...
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paerarru posted...

Oh, this probaby will be my favorite team then lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts0b-iFqrs0
they did well, but more than anything this is great because lee soomin sang like the whole track. i wonder why she went with a dance team, but it worked out.
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hey, curtis's gimmick is being weird, maybe he can cash in with r-truth someday.

against kofi and r-truth.

give the man a push

one, two, three, four, tell me that you love me more.

winona top tier

bump

my faves on mixnine are ranking high, while my faves on the unit are getting eliminated.

though it's beginning to feel like being eliminated from mixnine might be for the best, so there is actually no good news.
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Younha - Hello (feat. pH-1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ03WpqlpCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WKVCaootC8

full album coming Dec. 27th.
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celesmyusername posted...

dillos have taken a hit all around and the topics are now pretty empty

ive been pretty antisocial in general lately

PumpkinCoach posted...

my faves on mixnine are ranking high, while my faves on the unit are getting eliminated.

though it's beginning to feel like being eliminated from mixnine might be for the best, so there is actually no good news.

I haven't watched eliminations.

On The Unit, I'm sorry I know she's one of your favs (and that of many others, of course) but I think Jiwon is overrated. I'm resigned if she absolutely has to be in the group, apparently, that's fine she's not horrible I guess, but first place all through the show? Nah.

On Mess9, aka the Let's **** With Eyedi Show... yeah, I gave up on this one. I'll still watch it I mean, just to see the performances (some of which I've enjoyed, I'll admit) and to keep an eye on my faves, but whatever sort of competition is supposed to be going on, who cares at this point.

So yeah I'm a little miffed at both shows right now.
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