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Ic3Bullet 10/26/17 1:05:25 PM #1:	I say hit the pedestrian. It's my fucking car, I'm the one who worked my ass off and paid for it. It should be made to transport ME safely from A to B. It's not my fault some idiot got in the way. Because I'm sure in 99% of these type of scenarios, it would be because the pedestrian was somewhere he or she shouldn't have been. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:889187101] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>I say hit the pedestrian. It's my fucking car, I'm the one who worked my ass off and paid for it. It should be made to transport ME safely from A to B. It's not my fault some idiot got in the way. Because I'm sure in 99% of these type of scenarios, it would be because the pedestrian was somewhere he or she shouldn't have been.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 10/26/17 1:07:55 PM #2:	Let's make this scenario more interesting and say the choice is to either hit 3 school children running across the road or swerve into the other lane and crash, likely killing the passenger. Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Or should it make the moral decision that "saving more lives" is the correct choice? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:889187244] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>Let's make this scenario more interesting and say the choice is to either hit 3 school children running across the road or swerve into the other lane and crash, likely killing the passenger. Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Or should it make the moral decision that "saving more lives" is the correct choice?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Two_Dee 10/26/17 1:07:56 PM #3:	Pin the pedestrian against a wall --- http://i.imgur.com/TZMcmYk.jpg <cite>Two_Dee posted [p:889187247] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>Pin the pedestrian against a wall</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/26/17 1:09:37 PM #4:	People's lives > your car Hit the wall. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:889187355] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>People's lives > your car Hit the wall.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 10/26/17 1:31:01 PM #5:	Solar_Crimson posted... People's lives > your car Hit the wall. Yeah but my life is a people's life too and I could die by hitting the wall. Once again, the car should be made to transport ME safely. Otherwise it's poorly designed. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:889188688] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote>People's lives > your car Hit the wall.</quote> Yeah but my life is a people's life too and I could die by hitting the wall. Once again, the car should be made to transport ME safely. Otherwise it's poorly designed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 10/26/17 1:32:25 PM #6:	The Admiral posted... Let's make this scenario more interesting and say the choice is to either hit 3 school children running across the road or swerve into the other lane and crash, likely killing the passenger. Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Or should it make the moral decision that "saving more lives" is the correct choice? The other lane could have other cars, which have more than 3 people in them, so the car wouldn't know which option saved more lives. --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:889188774] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Let's make this scenario more interesting and say the choice is to either hit 3 school children running across the road or swerve into the other lane and crash, likely killing the passenger. Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Or should it make the moral decision that "saving more lives" is the correct choice?</quote> The other lane could have other cars, which have more than 3 people in them, so the car wouldn't know which option saved more lives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 10/26/17 1:32:59 PM #7:	Ic3Bullet posted... Yeah but my life is a people's life too and I could die by hitting the wall. You are less likely to die hitting the wall then the pedestrian is if they are hit by your car. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:889188810] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah but my life is a people's life too and I could die by hitting the wall.</quote> You are less likely to die hitting the wall then the pedestrian is if they are hit by your car.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 10/26/17 1:33:16 PM #8:	The Admiral posted... Let's make this scenario more interesting and say the choice is to either hit 3 school children running across the road or swerve into the other lane and crash, likely killing the passenger. Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Or should it make the moral decision that "saving more lives" is the correct choice? The life of the passenger The vehicle should always be designed for the safety of its passenger. It's tough tits, but the kids shouldn't have been running around in the road. My life and safety shouldn't be compromised because some kids were being idiots and got what they deserved. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:889188830] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Let's make this scenario more interesting and say the choice is to either hit 3 school children running across the road or swerve into the other lane and crash, likely killing the passenger. Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Or should it make the moral decision that "saving more lives" is the correct choice?</quote> The life of the passenger The vehicle should always be designed for the safety of its passenger. It's tough tits, but the kids shouldn't have been running around in the road. My life and safety shouldn't be compromised because some kids were being idiots and got what they deserved.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 10/26/17 1:34:23 PM #9:	JE19426 posted... Ic3Bullet posted... Yeah but my life is a people's life too and I could die by hitting the wall. You are less likely to die hitting the wall then the pedestrian is if they are hit by your car. Doesn't matter. I still have a chance to die, and as the owner of the vehicle, it should be programmed to keep ME as safe as possible. Especially considering that, once again, 99% of the time in these types of scenarios, it would be the pedestrian's fault. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:889188909] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah but my life is a people's life too and I could die by hitting the wall.</quote> You are less likely to die hitting the wall then the pedestrian is if they are hit by your car.</quote> Doesn't matter. I still have a chance to die, and as the owner of the vehicle, it should be programmed to keep ME as safe as possible. Especially considering that, once again, 99% of the time in these types of scenarios, it would be the pedestrian's fault.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 10/26/17 1:35:13 PM #10:	Ic3Bullet posted... Doesn't matter. Wrong. I still have a chance to die, and as the owner of the vehicle, it should be programmed to keep ME as safe as possible. Why? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:889188961] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote>Doesn't matter.</quote> Wrong. <quote>I still have a chance to die, and as the owner of the vehicle, it should be programmed to keep ME as safe as possible.</quote> Why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 10/26/17 1:35:48 PM #11:	The Admiral posted... Let's make this scenario more interesting and say the choice is to either hit 3 school children running across the road or swerve into the other lane and crash, likely killing the passenger. Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Or should it make the moral decision that "saving more lives" is the correct choice? This is definitely the more interesting question, and I think what it comes down to is that the car would prioritize the lives of its occupants --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:889188991] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Let's make this scenario more interesting and say the choice is to either hit 3 school children running across the road or swerve into the other lane and crash, likely killing the passenger. Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Or should it make the moral decision that "saving more lives" is the correct choice?</quote> This is definitely the more interesting question, and I think what it comes down to is that the car would prioritize the lives of its occupants</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/26/17 1:35:51 PM #12:	Autonomous vehicles are going to be so much safer that these conversations, while interesting, are ultimately pointless. If a plane suffered a software glitch that killed everyone on board, we wouldn't suddenly stop planes from flying on autopilot. Regardless of the risks. The risks are so minute that they really don't materialize often enough to be a real danger. And we could conceivably get 100% success rates with autopilot software. For argument's sake, I'd say the car should swerve into another lane. It's more likely that the vehicle will protect the passenger than kill them. Consider a Tesla Model S - they're tanks. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:889188995] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>Autonomous vehicles are going to be so much safer that these conversations, while interesting, are ultimately pointless. If a plane suffered a software glitch that killed everyone on board, we wouldn't suddenly stop planes from flying on autopilot. Regardless of the risks. The risks are so minute that they really don't materialize often enough to be a real danger. And we could conceivably get 100% success rates with autopilot software. For argument's sake, I'd say the car should swerve into another lane. It's more likely that the vehicle will protect the passenger than kill them. Consider a Tesla Model S - they're tanks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 10/26/17 1:36:32 PM #13:	Self driving cars aren't going to intentionally crash because of some algorithm that decides to save the greatest amount of lives. No one who works in self driving cars is even slightly concerned with this problem. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:889189031] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>Self driving cars aren't going to intentionally crash because of some algorithm that decides to save the greatest amount of lives. No one who works in self driving cars is even slightly concerned with this problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 10/26/17 1:36:57 PM #14:	JE19426 posted... Why? Because in 99% of these situations, it would be the pedestrian's fault. And a self-driving car's purpose is to transport its passengers safely. That is its priority. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:889189055] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>Why?</quote> Because in 99% of these situations, it would be the pedestrian's fault. And a self-driving car's purpose is to transport its passengers safely. That is its priority.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 10/26/17 1:37:23 PM #15:	Sativa_Rose posted... Self driving cars aren't going to intentionally crash because of some algorithm that decides to save the greatest amount of lives. No one who works in self driving cars is even slightly concerned with this problem. Sounds like they haven't been designed well. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:889189089] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>Self driving cars aren't going to intentionally crash because of some algorithm that decides to save the greatest amount of lives. No one who works in self driving cars is even slightly concerned with this problem.</quote> Sounds like they haven't been designed well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eat More Beef 10/26/17 1:37:59 PM #16:	Depends. If the pedestrian should not be there, like jay-walking or biking the wrong way down a one way street, then it shpuld prioritize the passanger. If it's a legit accident and no one is as fault, it should calculate the least amount of destruction and act accordingly. --- I wrote a horror short story collection. You can check it out, and other free short stories at http://www.aarondeck.com <cite>Eat More Beef posted [p:889189126] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>Depends. If the pedestrian should not be there, like jay-walking or biking the wrong way down a one way street, then it shpuld prioritize the passanger. If it's a legit accident and no one is as fault, it should calculate the least amount of destruction and act accordingly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 10/26/17 1:40:47 PM #17:	Yeah I'm kind of on the side that doesn't think this hypothetical will ever come up. The self driving cars will literally be that good. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:889189292] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I'm kind of on the side that doesn't think this hypothetical will ever come up. The self driving cars will literally be that good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 10/26/17 1:43:11 PM #18:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Autonomous vehicles are going to be so much safer that these conversations, while interesting, are ultimately pointless. If a plane suffered a software glitch that killed everyone on board, we wouldn't suddenly stop planes from flying on autopilot. Regardless of the risks. The risks are so minute that they really don't materialize often enough to be a real danger. And we could conceivably get 100% success rates with autopilot software. For argument's sake, I'd say the car should swerve into another lane. It's more likely that the vehicle will protect the passenger than kill them. Consider a Tesla Model S - they're tanks. As long as there are non-autonomous vehicles sharing the road with autonomous vehicles, it's something that has to be taken into account. Of course, I seem to remember awhile back seeing a video where a Tesla correctly predicted a collision between two other vehicles in front of it and was able to compensate appropriately --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:889189429] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Autonomous vehicles are going to be so much safer that these conversations, while interesting, are ultimately pointless. If a plane suffered a software glitch that killed everyone on board, we wouldn't suddenly stop planes from flying on autopilot. Regardless of the risks. The risks are so minute that they really don't materialize often enough to be a real danger. And we could conceivably get 100% success rates with autopilot software. For argument's sake, I'd say the car should swerve into another lane. It's more likely that the vehicle will protect the passenger than kill them. Consider a Tesla Model S - they're tanks.</quote> As long as there are non-autonomous vehicles sharing the road with autonomous vehicles, it's something that has to be taken into account. Of course, I seem to remember awhile back seeing a video where a Tesla correctly predicted a collision between two other vehicles in front of it and was able to compensate appropriately</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackHorse6969 10/26/17 1:48:20 PM #19:	How about instantly braking? --- http://i.imgur.com/dMnyy10.jpg <cite>BlackHorse6969 posted [p:889189713] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>How about instantly braking?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/26/17 2:17:08 PM #20:	eston posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Autonomous vehicles are going to be so much safer that these conversations, while interesting, are ultimately pointless. If a plane suffered a software glitch that killed everyone on board, we wouldn't suddenly stop planes from flying on autopilot. Regardless of the risks. The risks are so minute that they really don't materialize often enough to be a real danger. And we could conceivably get 100% success rates with autopilot software. For argument's sake, I'd say the car should swerve into another lane. It's more likely that the vehicle will protect the passenger than kill them. Consider a Tesla Model S - they're tanks. As long as there are non-autonomous vehicles sharing the road with autonomous vehicles, it's something that has to be taken into account. Of course, I seem to remember awhile back seeing a video where a Tesla correctly predicted a collision between two other vehicles in front of it and was able to compensate appropriately The other cars shouldn't be affected by there being autonomous vehicles on the road. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:889191526] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Autonomous vehicles are going to be so much safer that these conversations, while interesting, are ultimately pointless. If a plane suffered a software glitch that killed everyone on board, we wouldn't suddenly stop planes from flying on autopilot. Regardless of the risks. The risks are so minute that they really don't materialize often enough to be a real danger. And we could conceivably get 100% success rates with autopilot software. For argument's sake, I'd say the car should swerve into another lane. It's more likely that the vehicle will protect the passenger than kill them. Consider a Tesla Model S - they're tanks.</quote> As long as there are non-autonomous vehicles sharing the road with autonomous vehicles, it's something that has to be taken into account. Of course, I seem to remember awhile back seeing a video where a Tesla correctly predicted a collision between two other vehicles in front of it and was able to compensate appropriately</quote> The other cars shouldn't be affected by there being autonomous vehicles on the road.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 10/26/17 2:18:20 PM #21:	FLUFFYGERM posted... The other cars shouldn't be affected by there being autonomous vehicles on the road. They are referring to non-autonomous vehicles potentionally hitting autonomous vehicles. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:889191598] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>The other cars shouldn't be affected by there being autonomous vehicles on the road. </quote> They are referring to non-autonomous vehicles potentionally hitting autonomous vehicles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 10/26/17 2:18:25 PM #22:	BlackHorse6969 posted... How about instantly braking? Yea. Some non self driving cars already have this feature. Why would a self driving one not have it? --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:889191604] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackHorse6969 posted...</cite> <quote>How about instantly braking?</quote> Yea. Some non self driving cars already have this feature. Why would a self driving one not have it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/26/17 2:19:30 PM #23:	This is my favorite one of these: you're in the middle lane with a motorcycle to the left and right (only one of which has a helmet) and a truck in front of you. Something large falls off the truck in front of you, should the autonomous car: 1. not swerve and risk killing the driver and punish him for having an autonomous car 2. Swerve towards the motorcyclist without a helmet, the highest chance of a kill but punishing the person who opted out of a helmet 3. Swerve towards the motorcyclist with a helmet, the least chance of a kill but punishing the person for following safety rules. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:889191659] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>This is my favorite one of these: you're in the middle lane with a motorcycle to the left and right (only one of which has a helmet) and a truck in front of you. Something large falls off the truck in front of you, should the autonomous car: 1. not swerve and risk killing the driver and punish him for having an autonomous car 2. Swerve towards the motorcyclist without a helmet, the highest chance of a kill but punishing the person who opted out of a helmet 3. Swerve towards the motorcyclist with a helmet, the least chance of a kill but punishing the person for following safety rules.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 10/26/17 2:21:11 PM #24:	Is running over a pedestrian an acceptable outcome if the car wasn't self-driving? Would you make this argument in front of a judge and jury? Does the car being self-autonomous change the acceptability of that outcome in any meaningful way? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:889191762] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>Is running over a pedestrian an acceptable outcome if the car wasn't self-driving? Would you make this argument in front of a judge and jury? Does the car being self-autonomous change the acceptability of that outcome in any meaningful way?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 10/26/17 2:23:31 PM #25:	Kill the pedestrian. Why? To make an example of him. If it were the other way, less people would respect the laws of jaywalking. Cruel yes. Necessary unfortunately. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:889191907] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>Kill the pedestrian. Why? To make an example of him. If it were the other way, less people would respect the laws of jaywalking. Cruel yes. Necessary unfortunately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 10/26/17 2:24:38 PM #26:	cerealbox760 posted... Kill the pedestrian. Why? To make an example of him. If it were the other way, less people would respect the laws of jaywalking. Cruel yes. Necessary unfortunately. Best answer lmao --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:889191973] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>Kill the pedestrian. Why? To make an example of him. If it were the other way, less people would respect the laws of jaywalking. Cruel yes. Necessary unfortunately.</quote> Best answer lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zembaphobia 10/26/17 2:27:55 PM #28:	Enjoy the manslaughter charge :) --- http://i.imgur.com/vx054sl.gif http://i.imgur.com/UcazWEw.gif http://i.imgur.com/PF7sTdN.png http://anilist.co/animelist/2070/Zembaphobic <cite>Zembaphobia posted [p:889192182] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>Enjoy the manslaughter charge :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution998 10/26/17 2:31:25 PM #29:	The self driving cars will all have moon roofs, and there will be an eject button that deploys with a parachute so the driver can be safely ejected. The car will then drive into the building and swerve. --- The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poli' meaning many, and the word 'ticks' meaning blood sucking parasites. <cite>Caution998 posted [p:889192381] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>The self driving cars will all have moon roofs, and there will be an eject button that deploys with a parachute so the driver can be safely ejected. The car will then drive into the building and swerve.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 10/26/17 2:36:40 PM #30:	I think a self driving car should prioritize the safety of its occupants above all else. If it didn't it might make people think twice about buying them if they know there is a chance the car would kill the owner intentionally. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:889192708] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>I think a self driving car should prioritize the safety of its occupants above all else. If it didn't it might make people think twice about buying them if they know there is a chance the car would kill the owner intentionally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 10/26/17 2:47:27 PM #31:	The Admiral posted... Let's make this scenario more interesting and say the choice is to either hit 3 school children running across the road or swerve into the other lane and crash, likely killing the passenger. Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Or should it make the moral decision that "saving more lives" is the correct choice? Imagine the headlines: Autonomous car kills owner to save three kids! What will the owners of other autonomous cars think? If their safety isn't prioritized why would they even get the vehicle? Their lives would depend on others not jaywalking. Autonomous technology would never pick up and manufacturers would have a hard time selling the vehicles because passenger safety is not guaranteed. Imagine that. Three kids ruining the autonomous revolution. People would be stuck in traffic wasting possible hours of productivity. When you add the amount of hours wasted in traffic, that's millions of hours wasted everyday. That kills humans one hour at a time. Technology is always a blessing and a burden. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:889193374] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Let's make this scenario more interesting and say the choice is to either hit 3 school children running across the road or swerve into the other lane and crash, likely killing the passenger. Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Or should it make the moral decision that "saving more lives" is the correct choice?</quote> Imagine the headlines: Autonomous car kills owner to save three kids! What will the owners of other autonomous cars think? If their safety isn't prioritized why would they even get the vehicle? Their lives would depend on others not jaywalking. Autonomous technology would never pick up and manufacturers would have a hard time selling the vehicles because passenger safety is not guaranteed. Imagine that. Three kids ruining the autonomous revolution. People would be stuck in traffic wasting possible hours of productivity. When you add the amount of hours wasted in traffic, that's millions of hours wasted everyday. That kills humans one hour at a time. Technology is always a blessing and a burden.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 10/26/17 2:54:23 PM #33:	Why would your insurance not cover the damages from a self driving car crashing itself into a wall? --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:889193800] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>Why would your insurance not cover the damages from a self driving car crashing itself into a wall?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 10/26/17 3:14:22 PM #34:	Bullet_Wing posted... cerealbox760 posted... The Admiral posted... Let's make this scenario more interesting and say the choice is to either hit 3 school children running across the road or swerve into the other lane and crash, likely killing the passenger. Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Or should it make the moral decision that "saving more lives" is the correct choice? Imagine the headlines: Autonomous car kills owner to save three kids! What will the owners of other autonomous cars think? If their safety isn't prioritized why would they even get the vehicle? Their lives would depend on others not jaywalking. Autonomous technology would never pick up and manufacturers would have a hard time selling the vehicles because passenger safety is not guaranteed. Imagine that. Three kids ruining the autonomous revolution. People would be stuck in traffic wasting possible hours of productivity. When you add the amount of hours wasted in traffic, that's millions of hours wasted everyday. That kills humans one hour at a time. Technology is always a blessing a burden. "Autonomous car kills kids to save owner" would be a lot worse in that regard. Tons of added regulations would be piled on, massive lawsuits, public outcry. In this scenario, the owner has a strong case. Kids broke the law. The passenger shouldn't be punished for the actions of others. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:889195151] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Let's make this scenario more interesting and say the choice is to either hit 3 school children running across the road or swerve into the other lane and crash, likely killing the passenger. Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Or should it make the moral decision that "saving more lives" is the correct choice?</quote> Imagine the headlines: Autonomous car kills owner to save three kids! What will the owners of other autonomous cars think? If their safety isn't prioritized why would they even get the vehicle? Their lives would depend on others not jaywalking. Autonomous technology would never pick up and manufacturers would have a hard time selling the vehicles because passenger safety is not guaranteed. Imagine that. Three kids ruining the autonomous revolution. People would be stuck in traffic wasting possible hours of productivity. When you add the amount of hours wasted in traffic, that's millions of hours wasted everyday. That kills humans one hour at a time. Technology is always a blessing a burden.</quote> "Autonomous car kills kids to save owner" would be a lot worse in that regard. Tons of added regulations would be piled on, massive lawsuits, public outcry.</quote> In this scenario, the owner has a strong case. Kids broke the law. The passenger shouldn't be punished for the actions of others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 10/26/17 4:09:11 PM #35:	Bullet_Wing posted... Ic3Bullet posted... The Admiral posted... Let's make this scenario more interesting and say the choice is to either hit 3 school children running across the road or swerve into the other lane and crash, likely killing the passenger. Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Or should it make the moral decision that "saving more lives" is the correct choice? The life of the passenger The vehicle should always be designed for the safety of its passenger. It's tough tits, but the kids shouldn't have been running around in the road. My life and safety shouldn't be compromised because some kids were being idiots and got what they deserved. Say you were driving and this scenario occurred. You'd really run down kids rather than yourself into a wall? Yeah. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:889198654] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Let's make this scenario more interesting and say the choice is to either hit 3 school children running across the road or swerve into the other lane and crash, likely killing the passenger. Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Or should it make the moral decision that "saving more lives" is the correct choice?</quote> The life of the passenger The vehicle should always be designed for the safety of its passenger. It's tough tits, but the kids shouldn't have been running around in the road. My life and safety shouldn't be compromised because some kids were being idiots and got what they deserved.</quote> Say you were driving and this scenario occurred. You'd really run down kids rather than yourself into a wall?</quote> Yeah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
awesome999 10/26/17 4:14:28 PM #36:	Ic3Bullet posted... I'm a selfish asshole I never would've guessed --- When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk <cite>awesome999 posted [p:889198963] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote>I'm a selfish asshole</quote> I never would've guessed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/26/17 4:16:23 PM #37:	The Admiral posted... Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger? Yes, always. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:889199087] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Should the car prioritize the life of its passenger?</quote> Yes, always.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 10/26/17 4:18:12 PM #38:	Im going to say apply the brakes while only driving at a speed from which the car can completely stop based on the range of the sensors. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:889199210] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>Im going to say apply the brakes while only driving at a speed from which the car can completely stop based on the range of the sensors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 10/26/17 4:20:14 PM #39:	I find this extremely relevant: (potential spoilers for the amazing show The Good Place) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHI2QV_-mF0 --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:889199344] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>I find this extremely relevant: (potential spoilers for the amazing show The Good Place) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHI2QV_-mF0</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 10/26/17 4:20:32 PM #40:	Im going to say apply the brakes while only driving at a speed from which the car can completely stop based on the range of the sensors. Also, the first law of robotics pretty clearly outlines that it should save the human. Its when the cars become self aware enough to extrapolate the zeroth law that people start getting killed. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:889199367] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>Im going to say apply the brakes while only driving at a speed from which the car can completely stop based on the range of the sensors. Also, the first law of robotics pretty clearly outlines that it should save the human. Its when the cars become self aware enough to extrapolate the zeroth law that people start getting killed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 10/26/17 4:22:45 PM #41:	Why not just...brake? --- http://www.warwithwords.com He Who Leads: Global Ebook Award Winner:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:889199499] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>Why not just...brake?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fundabz 10/26/17 4:23:35 PM #42:	Zanzenburger posted... I find this extremely relevant: (potential spoilers for the amazing show The Good Place) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHI2QV_-mF0 Lol --- I'll get my stupid rope. I'll get it. This is a rope right here. GT: KirBeast PSN: KirBeast_ <cite>Fundabz posted [p:889199547] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zanzenburger posted...</cite> <quote>I find this extremely relevant: (potential spoilers for the amazing show The Good Place) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHI2QV_-mF0</quote> Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 10/26/17 6:53:34 PM #43:	this wouldn't happen if that car had a human driver in it --- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:889209214] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>this wouldn't happen if that car had a human driver in it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 10/26/17 7:06:13 PM #44:	Honestly if a self driving car that can still be controlled by the driver and the brakes still work is about to hit someone that can only be the other person's fault (it would still happen even with just driver controlled) so I say just go along the road, Darwin gets his dues. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:889210001] in Should a s... [t:75922268]...</cite> <quote>Honestly if a self driving car that can still be controlled by the driver and the brakes still work is about to hit someone that can only be the other person's fault (it would still happen even with just driver controlled) so I say just go along the road, Darwin gets his dues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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