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NeverOffended
10/30/17 12:30:14 AM
#51:


Gafemage posted...
Darmik posted...
Gafemage posted...
https://twitter.com/KevinSpacey/status/924848412842971136

Um,


Wow. As awful as the story is he's probably handled it as best he could here. Hopefully it was just one off thing.


Did he, though?
1. Him releasing the statement so soon after the allegations went public feels kinda suspect.
2. He literally blamed alcohol for hitting on a 14-year-old, showing a considerable lack of accountability.
3. The fact that he chose to come out in the middle of a statement responding to such allegations honestly just makes it feel like he's trying to shift the tone of the conversation away from Rapp's allegations.


nah man he's so brave and it happened a long time ago so we should sweep it under the rug because he's such a likeable guy
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Darmik
10/30/17 12:31:22 AM
#52:


Gafemage posted...
Darmik posted...
Gafemage posted...
https://twitter.com/KevinSpacey/status/924848412842971136

Um,


Wow. As awful as the story is he's probably handled it as best he could here. Hopefully it was just one off thing.


Did he, though?
1. Him releasing the statement so soon after the allegations went public feels kinda suspect.
2. He literally blamed alcohol for hitting on a 14-year-old, showing a considerable lack of accountability.
3. The fact that he chose to come out in the middle of a statement responding to such allegations honestly just makes it feel like he's trying to shift the tone of the conversation away from Rapp's allegations.


In the sense that any other response probably would go down worse? Yeah.

I'm not defending him or anything.
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lilORANG
10/30/17 12:32:35 AM
#53:


Gafemage posted...
Him releasing the statement so soon after the allegations went public feels kinda suspect.

How? It would be way worse if he waited. Doing so immediately seems more sincere, less calculated.
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Gafemage
10/30/17 12:33:18 AM
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Keith_Valentine posted...
That is an excuse, have you ever been drunk? I tried hitting n these girls walking home drunk from the bar. She had some big tatas, I offered to walk them home. Trying to talk. They shut it down.

I let it go. They decided to tell the cops about it. They asked me blah blah b"did you call her baby?" I said hell yea that's what you call women. He says "she's 13." I said 'didn't look 13 to me man, I'm drunk. But I didn't do shit to her so whatever '

He breathalyzed me. .247 or some shit. He seemed surprised how aware I was. He said "get the fuck home"

You could dig in anyone's back yard for dirt and find it. Ftr, that girl looked fine as hell, not sorry. Once I knew, done deal. Whatever, Sue me.



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Quorthon109
10/30/17 12:33:34 AM
#55:


I really don't know what to think now. Coming out was pretty much the only card he could play here. I can believe he has no memory of what happened and I don't think his career should be ruined over this one incident 30 years ago, but the floodgates usually open after this kind of thing.

That still leaves this poor guy who's been traumatized for 30 years. If you read the story you can tell how deeply it affected him.
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NeverOffended
10/30/17 12:33:52 AM
#56:


lilORANG posted...
Gafemage posted...
Him releasing the statement so soon after the allegations went public feels kinda suspect.

How? It would be way worse if he waited. Doing so immediately seems more sincere, less calculated.


sure but you have people in here claiming that him coming out as gay will make this the biggest PR reversal of all time, some of these posts ITT have me feeling like I'm in the Twighlight Zone for real
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Lost_All_Senses
10/30/17 12:34:19 AM
#57:


Trump still became President through his shit. Spacey will be fine
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prince_leo
10/30/17 12:34:56 AM
#58:


Quorthon109 posted...
I can believe he has no memory of what happened

yeah, I don't remember some of the girls I hooked up with in college. can't imagine remembering someone I hit on 30 years from now
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lilORANG
10/30/17 12:35:52 AM
#59:


NeverOffended posted...
lilORANG posted...
Gafemage posted...
Him releasing the statement so soon after the allegations went public feels kinda suspect.

How? It would be way worse if he waited. Doing so immediately seems more sincere, less calculated.


sure but you have people in here claiming that him coming out as gay will make this the biggest PR reversal of all time, some of these posts ITT have me feeling like I'm in the Twighlight Zone for real

There's a piece of me thinking that he did so to deflect from the allegations, sure, but when his position isn't outright denial, he's admitting that it could have happened, and for that to be the case there's a strong implication that he's gay or bi-sexual. I don't really see the point to wait a week to admit it when he's responding now and the implication is obvious.
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NeverOffended
10/30/17 12:35:54 AM
#60:


prince_leo posted...
Quorthon109 posted...
I can believe he has no memory of what happened

yeah, I don't remember some of the girls I hooked up with in college. can't imagine remembering someone I hit on 30 years from now


there are 14 year olds in college now? wtf kind of comparison is this?
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Darmik
10/30/17 12:36:23 AM
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I guess American Beauty should have been about a boy huh.
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Keith_Valentine
10/30/17 12:36:36 AM
#62:


Yep. Shit happens.

@ me if it comes out he molested, raped, or violated Anyone. Drunk grabbing someone's ass doesnt even blip to me. Who the fuck is the accuser what's he after?
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Gafemage
10/30/17 12:37:25 AM
#63:


lilORANG posted...
Gafemage posted...
Him releasing the statement so soon after the allegations went public feels kinda suspect.

How? It would be way worse if he waited. Doing so immediately seems more sincere, less calculated.


I can agree that a longer waiting time (i.e. a couple days) would be equally suspect, if not more so, but releasing it literally like an hour after the headlines came out almost makes it seem like he knew the guy was gonna come forth with the allegations ahead of time.
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NeverOffended
10/30/17 12:37:42 AM
#64:


lilORANG posted...
There's a piece of me thinking that he did so to deflect from the allegations, sure, but when his position isn't outright denial, he's admitting that it could have happened, and for that to be the case there's a strong implication that he's gay or bi-sexual. I don't really see the point to wait a week to admit it when he's responding now and the implication is obvious.


that's fair, I just find it very interesting that there are posters here scrambling to rationalize this when I know for a fact they went at Trump's throat for the same thing.....funny how that works, bias is a powerful thing I guess
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lilORANG
10/30/17 12:37:46 AM
#65:


NeverOffended posted...
prince_leo posted...
Quorthon109 posted...
I can believe he has no memory of what happened

yeah, I don't remember some of the girls I hooked up with in college. can't imagine remembering someone I hit on 30 years from now


there are 14 year olds in college now? wtf kind of comparison is this?

you seem to have missed his point.

People blackout from drinking all the time. You don't remember anything.
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Darmik
10/30/17 12:38:49 AM
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NeverOffended
10/30/17 12:39:23 AM
#67:


lilORANG posted...
NeverOffended posted...
prince_leo posted...
Quorthon109 posted...
I can believe he has no memory of what happened

yeah, I don't remember some of the girls I hooked up with in college. can't imagine remembering someone I hit on 30 years from now


there are 14 year olds in college now? wtf kind of comparison is this?

you seem to have missed his point.

People blackout from drinking all the time. You don't remember anything.


so? since when is getting so drunk that you black out and go after a kid an excuse? do you think that would work with the cops? I mean come on man
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masticatingman
10/30/17 12:40:21 AM
#68:


If anyone read the article, he clearly responds to a question about his sexuality with the response of that he would rather keep that matter private.

Like, I get that that response doesn't technically mean the guy is gay, but it's essentially saying that by omission, or at very minimum that the guy is bi. He comes from a time when it was basically career suicide to be openly gay. Just look at a lot of the roles he got famous with in the 90's. And being very intoxicated won't make you change your sexual preference - you'll just have way less inhibitions about pursuing something that you want.
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lilORANG
10/30/17 12:40:42 AM
#69:


NeverOffended posted...
lilORANG posted...
NeverOffended posted...
prince_leo posted...
Quorthon109 posted...
I can believe he has no memory of what happened

yeah, I don't remember some of the girls I hooked up with in college. can't imagine remembering someone I hit on 30 years from now


there are 14 year olds in college now? wtf kind of comparison is this?

you seem to have missed his point.

People blackout from drinking all the time. You don't remember anything.


so? since when is getting so drunk that you black out and go after a kid an excuse? do you think that would work with the cops? I mean come on man

the issue is memory, not the morality of hooking up with minors. He's saying he doesn't remember.
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Gafemage
10/30/17 12:41:18 AM
#70:


Darmik posted...
https://twitter.com/shaneriderMA/status/924852151838498816

Hmm


Damn... first that Weinstein Oscars joke, now this...
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SubtletyRefuge
10/30/17 12:41:42 AM
#71:


another one
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lilORANG
10/30/17 12:41:45 AM
#72:


Gafemage posted...
Darmik posted...
https://twitter.com/shaneriderMA/status/924852151838498816

Hmm


Damn... first that Weinstein Oscars joke, now this...

Seth must know some shit to be making these predictions.
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NeverOffended
10/30/17 12:42:05 AM
#73:


lilORANG posted...
the issue is memory, not the morality of hooking up with minors. He's saying he doesn't remember.


that's fair but it doesn't absolve the fact that he did it like people here seem to think, "oh he was super drunk!" "oh it happened decades ago!"

It happened that's what matters
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50Blessings
10/30/17 12:42:53 AM
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God dammit. Shit like this is why rednecks equate homosexuality with pedophilia.
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NeverOffended
10/30/17 12:43:45 AM
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Gafemage
10/30/17 12:44:24 AM
#76:


50Blessings posted...
God dammit. Shit like this is why rednecks equate homosexuality with pedophilia.


I was gonna say, I can only imagine how much homophobia has already transpired from this incident.
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boxington
10/30/17 12:44:42 AM
#77:


lilORANG posted...
Gafemage posted...
Darmik posted...
https://twitter.com/shaneriderMA/status/924852151838498816

Hmm


Damn... first that Weinstein Oscars joke, now this...

Seth must know some shit to be making these predictions.

don't be surprised when Seth MacFarlane turns out to be a god, slowly giving out the answers to the universe
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Trigg3rH4ppy
10/30/17 12:44:43 AM
#78:


NeverOffended posted...
prince_leo posted...
Quorthon109 posted...
I can believe he has no memory of what happened

yeah, I don't remember some of the girls I hooked up with in college. can't imagine remembering someone I hit on 30 years from now


there are 14 year olds in college now? wtf kind of comparison is this?

I've been at college parties where underage high school girls showed up. Happens a lot actually. I almost hooked up with a 16 year old once (looked 21) until she fucked up and said something about high school and it made me realize she was lying about her age.
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lilORANG
10/30/17 12:45:09 AM
#79:


NeverOffended posted...
lilORANG posted...
the issue is memory, not the morality of hooking up with minors. He's saying he doesn't remember.


that's fair but it doesn't absolve the fact that he did it like people here seem to think, "oh he was super drunk!" "oh it happened decades ago!"

It happened that's what matters

well yeah, if it happened it's shit. I'm just saying him not remembering it because alcohol was involved isn't an unbelievable statement
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prince_leo
10/30/17 12:51:08 AM
#80:


lilORANG posted...
well yeah, if it happened it's shit. I'm just saying him not remembering it because alcohol was involved isn't an unbelievable statement

exactly this, that's all I was saying
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Blue_Dream87
10/30/17 12:55:10 AM
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Gafemage
10/30/17 12:55:47 AM
#82:


Blue_Dream87 posted...
Wait, how old was he during this incident?


26 I think
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ShotOJameson
10/30/17 1:11:21 AM
#83:


This deflecting any responsibility for this by 'coming out' is really gross behavior tbh
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Swagnificent119
10/30/17 1:13:21 AM
#84:


ShotOJameson posted...
This deflecting any responsibility for this by 'coming out' is really gross behavior tbh


I'm glad people are immediately calling it out. I really thought it would completely shift the narrative.
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_Krave_
10/30/17 1:15:35 AM
#85:


EffectAndCause posted...
Not him!

Hes almost Tom Hanks levels of likeable! :(

Tom Hanks isn't likable at all.

Also, does this come as a surprise to anyone?

Hollywood is literally saturated with child abuse.
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Darmik
10/30/17 1:16:59 AM
#86:


_Krave_ posted...
Tom Hanks isn't likable at all.


The fuck you say?
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Hey
10/30/17 1:17:12 AM
#87:


Swagnificent119 posted...
ShotOJameson posted...
This deflecting any responsibility for this by 'coming out' is really gross behavior tbh


I'm glad people are immediately calling it out. I really thought it would completely shift the narrative.

Worked for Jenner
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Zeus
10/30/17 1:19:26 AM
#88:


Vyrulisse posted...
Hollywood is a hive of scum and villainy.


This.

Gafemage posted...
Darmik posted...
Gafemage posted...
https://twitter.com/KevinSpacey/status/924848412842971136

Um,


Wow. As awful as the story is he's probably handled it as best he could here. Hopefully it was just one off thing.


Did he, though?
1. Him releasing the statement so soon after the allegations went public feels kinda suspect.
2. He literally blamed alcohol for hitting on a 14-year-old, showing a considerable lack of accountability.
3. The fact that he chose to come out in the middle of a statement responding to such allegations honestly just makes it feel like he's trying to shift the tone of the conversation away from Rapp's allegations.


You kinda have to release a statement shortly after an accusation to head off bad PR. Otherwise it's the kind of boilerplate, vaguely placating apologies which celebs have been shooting off lately.

Otherwise, alcohol DOES low inhibitions and a sense of accountability, which is why people shouldn't drink the stuff. Violent crime in this country would be cut down by a third if nobody drank.
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DreamwaIker
10/30/17 1:59:43 AM
#89:


Wow. Yes, getting on top of a young teen on a bed after inviting them clubbing definitely counts as an aggressive advance.

And I dont see why hed make that up. Probably Spacy is done for, along with a bunch of other Hollywood people.
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MoreRpgs
10/30/17 2:10:34 AM
#90:


No surprise.
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Seneca_Wallace_
10/30/17 2:11:22 AM
#91:


Why is it never Michael Bay damnit
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WindMouseHanpan
10/30/17 2:17:44 AM
#92:


Seneca_Wallace_ posted...
Why is it never Michael Bay damnit


At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if virtually every Hollywood star is outed as a sexual deviant. The dominos just keep fallin' over.
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Funbazooka
10/30/17 2:50:44 AM
#93:


Pulling the whole "b-b-b-b-but I'm gay guys! well, bisexual really, but let me assure you I am living as a gay man now! Remember guys, I'm gay!" card is scummy and pathetic damage control.
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twitterfriends
10/30/17 3:18:09 AM
#94:


Right now these are just allegations and accusations, he's innocent until proven guilty. Who knows what exactly happened that night and we should all restrain from judgement and let authorities handle it, plus it did happen 30 years ago. So who knows. I am glad he's open about his life as a gay man now that was a real bold thing to do. Love House of Cards too.
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Izual_Reborn
10/30/17 3:18:46 AM
#95:


Kevin has had to deal with this for the last 30 years in his head. Probably not slept and its tortured him every night worrying about it since. That is probably worse than any prison sentence. Hes served his time.
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masticatingman
10/30/17 3:24:18 AM
#96:


I think to the key to the story is he invited Rapp and another young guy to go out partying with him. Not sure about you, but I'm the same age as Spacey was in that story...why the hell would I want to hang out with a 14 year old kid in my mid-20's when I can go out clubbing with the crew or on my own?
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CiIantro
10/30/17 3:24:48 AM
#97:


twitterfriends posted...
Right now these are just allegations and accusations, he's innocent until proven guilty. Who knows what exactly happened that night and we should all restrain from judgement and let authorities handle it, plus it did happen 30 years ago. So who knows. I am glad he's open about his life as a gay man now that was a real bold thing to do. Love House of Cards too.

This. I think Kevin handled this in the best way possible. I hope this doesnt affect House of Cards.
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tor984
10/30/17 3:26:09 AM
#98:


As well?
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Irony
10/30/17 3:26:47 AM
#99:


Everyone in Hollywood is a perv
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faizan_faizan
10/30/17 3:40:09 AM
#100:


MoreRpgs posted...
No surprise.

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