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CiIantro
11/10/17 7:23:23 PM
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Such a fucking joke. Nothing wrong with two consenting adults engaging in a relationship like this. There is zero risk of birth defects, and nobody is harmed.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/10/oklahoma-woman-who-married-mother-after-two-hit-it-off-pleads-guilty-to-incest.html
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FLUFFYGERM
11/10/17 7:24:56 PM
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what
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gmanthebest
11/10/17 7:27:03 PM
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As gross as that is, they should not get any time.
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11/10/17 7:27:31 PM
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Can this account be banned for trolling now?
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FLUFFYGERM
11/10/17 7:29:43 PM
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Smith said the mother-daughter-duo was attempting to adopt a child and believed their marriage would shorten the process."

wtf
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booboy
11/10/17 7:38:16 PM
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CiIantro posted...
Such a fucking joke. Nothing wrong with two consenting adults engaging in a relationship like this. There is zero risk of birth defects, and nobody is harmed.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/10/oklahoma-woman-who-married-mother-after-two-hit-it-off-pleads-guilty-to-incest.html


You are thinking that they have ethical, if currently societally deviant intentions. Don't ever make the mistake of thinking that about the average Oklahoman.
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CiIantro
11/10/17 8:24:06 PM
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Sure it is weird, but they arent harming anyone else.
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Kineth
11/10/17 8:28:08 PM
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Yeah, this sets off alarms, but there's not really a legal reason against it since there's no chance of inbreeding, i.e. weakening the gene pool. It's just yucky incest.

Besides, it's not like the daughter hasn't already been there!
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Zikten
11/10/17 8:28:57 PM
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This is how super villains are made. she was hurting nobody. but the government got in her business. now her mom is going to break her daughter out of prison and the 2 will go on to found COBRA and take over the world that spurned them
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CiIantro
11/10/17 8:30:46 PM
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Kineth posted...
Yeah, this sets off alarms, but there's not really a legal reason against it since there's no chance of inbreeding, i.e. weakening the gene pool. It's just yucky incest.

Besides, it's not like the daughter hasn't already been there!

Stuff shouldnt be illegal just for being yucky
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Kineth
11/10/17 8:31:58 PM
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Oh I agree. I was just stating that I personally feel it's yucky, but not that I think it should be illegal. Hence the previous sentence discussing the legality.
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SageHarpuia
11/10/17 8:32:12 PM
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This is what we are becoming.
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GiftedACIII
11/10/17 8:33:17 PM
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Seeing as incest porn is one of the most popular searches I doubt most people even find it yucky. It's just currently socially unacceptable
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ImNotAnIdiot
11/10/17 8:35:32 PM
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I knew the chances of them being hot were really low, but I was hoping they would be before clicking on the link. An opportunity missed.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/10/17 8:38:27 PM
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CiIantro posted...
Kineth posted...
Yeah, this sets off alarms, but there's not really a legal reason against it since there's no chance of inbreeding, i.e. weakening the gene pool. It's just yucky incest.

Besides, it's not like the daughter hasn't already been there!

Stuff shouldnt be illegal just for being yucky


True, but here it's more than that. They're two clearly disturbed individuals from a dysfunctional family, and they were trying to adopt a child.

That doesn't mean we should imprison them but they're definitely in need of counseling/help and they should be barred from adoption imo.
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Eve-L
11/10/17 8:41:06 PM
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I recommend reading the comments in the article. There's some gems in there. <_<
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Nostradumbass
11/10/17 8:42:31 PM
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Oklahoma
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Jiek_Fafn
11/10/17 8:42:50 PM
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She married her son too. That lady is creepy as shit. Still, being creepy as shit in this way shouldn't be a crime.
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Burnt_Puke82
11/10/17 8:43:32 PM
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Nostradumbass posted...
Oklahoma

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apolloooo
11/10/17 8:43:51 PM
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Kineth posted...
Yeah, this sets off alarms, but there's not really a legal reason against it since there's no chance of inbreeding, i.e. weakening the gene pool. It's just yucky incest.

Besides, it's not like the daughter hasn't already been there!

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MarkIngramTD
11/10/17 8:45:54 PM
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It's a man
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Zodd3224
11/10/17 8:47:02 PM
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Lmao, 'MURICA!
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GiftedACIII
11/13/17 5:02:46 AM
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Seeing as incest porn is one of the most popular searches I doubt most people even find it yucky. It's just currently socially unacceptable
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Rika_Furude
11/13/17 5:05:08 AM
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CiIantro posted...
. Nothing wrong with two consenting adults engaging in a relationship like this.

everything is wrong with it because they are relatives. incest is NOT to be supported
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ClockworkHare
11/13/17 5:24:51 AM
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A common concern about these situations relates to how the children came to be in such a relationship.

Was it proposed when the children had already grown up and were consenting adults?
Or were they groomed as minors by the parent to accept participating in incest?

The latter is inexcusable because it's exploiting a parental influence to corrupt a minor into a sexual partnership, at the cost of the child's welfare. In such cases, the child rarely has a real choice in the matter; they're more often coerced and molded into accepting it to facilitate the parent's warped desires. It robs the child of opportunities to have a healthy development and independent life.
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haloiscoolisbak
11/13/17 5:28:39 AM
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10 years of probation is important to note

Still harsh mind
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YuriSakazaki0
11/13/17 6:49:52 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
As gross as that is, they should not get any time.

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CiIantro
11/13/17 11:07:14 AM
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@Rika_Furude posted...
CiIantro posted...
. Nothing wrong with two consenting adults engaging in a relationship like this.

everything is wrong with it because they are relatives. incest is NOT to be supported

Give me one evidence-based reason that it is wrong.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/13/17 11:08:44 AM
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ClockworkHare posted...
A common concern about these situations relates to how the children came to be in such a relationship.

Was it proposed when the children had already grown up and were consenting adults?
Or were they groomed as minors by the parent to accept participating in incest?

The latter is inexcusable because it's exploiting a parental influence to corrupt a minor into a sexual partnership, at the cost of the child's welfare. In such cases, the child rarely has a real choice in the matter; they're more often coerced and molded into accepting it to facilitate the parent's warped desires. It robs the child of opportunities to have a healthy development and independent life.


It's possibly the case that they were groomed. IIRC there are natural inhibitors to incest because of the genetic errors that result from it. Animals are predisposed to not be incestuous.
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Xelltrix
11/13/17 11:09:39 AM
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I don't see why this deserves jail time. This is only throwing more people in prison who don't need to be there...
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/13/17 11:11:38 AM
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We can't allow this because of stuff like child grooming. Fuck off "consenting adults" liars.
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CiIantro
11/13/17 11:13:24 AM
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Xelltrix posted...
I don't see why this deserves jail time. This is only throwing more people in prison who don't need to be there...

Welcome to america. If we can put someone in jail, we will.

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eston
11/13/17 11:13:29 AM
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Were they actually banging though, or just trying to work the system? Every article I've seen about this has been vague about that point
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Deadpool_18
11/13/17 11:14:58 AM
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Fair, next. We need to step in when people turn to incest.
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Dustin1280
11/13/17 11:15:31 AM
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That women married her son as well and they ended up divorced.

That same son said that his mother has attempted to manipulate every single sibling into a romantic relationship with her.

The mother is the problem, the daughter is just too damn stupid and groomed by her mother to know better.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/13/17 11:47:30 AM
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I mean, it's clear that this family is dysfunctional. Normal people don't engage in this behavior. Not saying it needs to be 10 years prison time, but mandatory mental help is in order imo.
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SageHarpuia
11/13/17 7:13:04 PM
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I would be ok with this being a felony tbh
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Rika_Furude
11/13/17 9:54:16 PM
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CiIantro posted...
@Rika_Furude posted...
CiIantro posted...
. Nothing wrong with two consenting adults engaging in a relationship like this.

everything is wrong with it because they are relatives. incest is NOT to be supported

Give me one evidence-based reason that it is wrong.

Child grooming
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Eve-L
11/13/17 10:12:25 PM
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Leave it to CE to argue in favor of something like this.
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Syntheticon
11/13/17 10:18:54 PM
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CiIantro posted...
Such a fucking joke. Nothing wrong with two consenting adults engaging in a relationship like this. There is zero risk of birth defects, and nobody is harmed.
Incest is incest but the US needs to stop jailing people for everything-try harder and fix the underlying causes where possible.
Sending them to one of the gayest places on earth for women could be just what they need though, I'll admit. They might find someone new and solve the problem but jail isn't a suitable punishment here.
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Waluigi7
11/13/17 10:20:37 PM
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The relationship is clearly unhealthy, they shouldn't go to prison for it but pretending this is a normal adult relationship is being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
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Rika_Furude
11/13/17 10:34:40 PM
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Syntheticon posted...
CiIantro posted...
Such a fucking joke. Nothing wrong with two consenting adults engaging in a relationship like this. There is zero risk of birth defects, and nobody is harmed.
Incest is incest but the US needs to stop jailing people for everything-try harder and fix the underlying causes where possible.
Sending them to one of the gayest places on earth for women could be just what they need though, I'll admit. They might find someone new and solve the problem but jail isn't a suitable punishment here.

The underlying cause is child grooming and the resolution is to continue treating incest like the crime it is
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD
11/13/17 10:38:52 PM
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Is she hot??
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GuyCarlPeterson
11/13/17 10:43:33 PM
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Remember when people laughed at legalizing gay marriage will be a slippery slope? Now people are defending a daughter marrying her mother. I am okay with gay marriage but it cannot go any further.
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CiIantro
11/13/17 11:10:31 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
CiIantro posted...
@Rika_Furude posted...
CiIantro posted...
. Nothing wrong with two consenting adults engaging in a relationship like this.

everything is wrong with it because they are relatives. incest is NOT to be supported

Give me one evidence-based reason that it is wrong.

Child grooming

No law can prevent that. Next.
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Rika_Furude
11/14/17 2:14:55 AM
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CiIantro posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
CiIantro posted...
@Rika_Furude posted...
CiIantro posted...
. Nothing wrong with two consenting adults engaging in a relationship like this.

everything is wrong with it because they are relatives. incest is NOT to be supported

Give me one evidence-based reason that it is wrong.

Child grooming

No law can prevent that. Next.

No law can prevent murder. Should we legalise that now?
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CiIantro
11/14/17 3:04:54 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
CiIantro posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
CiIantro posted...
@Rika_Furude posted...
CiIantro posted...
. Nothing wrong with two consenting adults engaging in a relationship like this.

everything is wrong with it because they are relatives. incest is NOT to be supported

Give me one evidence-based reason that it is wrong.

Child grooming

No law can prevent that. Next.

No law can prevent murder. Should we legalise that now?

No, but we also shouldnt implement needlessly restrictive and useless laws that accomplish nothing and only serve to restrict freedom.
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Rika_Furude
11/14/17 3:05:38 AM
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CiIantro posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
CiIantro posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
CiIantro posted...
@Rika_Furude posted...
CiIantro posted...
. Nothing wrong with two consenting adults engaging in a relationship like this.

everything is wrong with it because they are relatives. incest is NOT to be supported

Give me one evidence-based reason that it is wrong.

Child grooming

No law can prevent that. Next.

No law can prevent murder. Should we legalise that now?

No, but we also shouldnt implement needlessly restrictive and useless laws that accomplish nothing and only serve to restrict freedom.

Such as murder being illegal?
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CiIantro
11/14/17 3:40:53 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Such as murder being illegal?

Such as not letting two people get married because they might get in a fight one day and murder each other.
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