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ModLogic 11/14/17 3:05:08 PM #51:	metralo posted... hmmmm there must be a way to fix the problem considering this is the only first world country where this regularly happens hmmm idk what the problem is tho... what could we possibly do.... legalize murders then its no longer a crime --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:890382969] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote>hmmmm there must be a way to fix the problem considering this is the only first world country where this regularly happens hmmm idk what the problem is tho... what could we possibly do....</quote> legalize murders then its no longer a crime</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MB2012 11/14/17 3:06:05 PM #52:	ModLogic posted... metralo posted... hmmmm there must be a way to fix the problem considering this is the only first world country where this regularly happens hmmm idk what the problem is tho... what could we possibly do.... legalize murders then its no longer a crime Genius! --- Yeet <cite>MB2012 posted [p:890383038] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>ModLogic posted...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote>hmmmm there must be a way to fix the problem considering this is the only first world country where this regularly happens hmmm idk what the problem is tho... what could we possibly do....</quote> legalize murders then its no longer a crime</quote> Genius!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralZhao 11/14/17 3:11:11 PM #53:	tremain07 posted... There's no discussion because there's no solution, it's just apart of our country and people need to accept that, just treat them the same as you would a heavy storm. The only solution is one that appeases the right and the left. some people actually think this is the sad part pack it up guys shooting up a school is no different than it raining. --- https://imgur.com/a/f52rH <cite>GeneralZhao posted [p:890383350] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>There's no discussion because there's no solution, it's just apart of our country and people need to accept that, just treat them the same as you would a heavy storm. The only solution is one that appeases the right and the left.</quote> some people actually think this is the sad part pack it up guys shooting up a school is no different than it raining.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 11/14/17 3:11:13 PM #54:	Foppe posted... Trump knows that people will (somewhat) allow a travel ban. He also knows that trying to ban guns would get him kicked out from the White House in one or another way. lol that sadly sounds logical. which somehow means that trump is apparently not the problem.. --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:890383353] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Foppe posted...</cite> <quote>Trump knows that people will (somewhat) allow a travel ban. He also knows that trying to ban guns would get him kicked out from the White House in one or another way.</quote> lol that sadly sounds logical. which somehow means that trump is apparently not the problem..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 11/14/17 3:13:40 PM #55:	Malcolm_McGuffi posted... Only cop's should have guns. --- gr8 b8 m8 <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:890383504] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_McGuffi posted...</cite> <quote>Only cop's should have guns.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cherrys2000 11/14/17 3:15:12 PM #56:	because you don't stop gun violence by taking guns from law-abiding citizens <cite>Cherrys2000 posted [p:890383581] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote>because you don't stop gun violence by taking guns from law-abiding citizens</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 11/14/17 3:17:22 PM #57:	Cherrys2000 posted... because you don't stop gun violence by taking guns from law-abiding citizens None are law-abiding citizens until they press the trigger? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:890383693] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote>because you don't stop gun violence by taking guns from law-abiding citizens</quote> None are law-abiding citizens until they press the trigger?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMarishPie 11/14/17 3:17:23 PM #58:	Pepys Monster posted... Malcolm_McGuffi posted... Only cop's should have guns. what are you trying to say with this picture --- "Who dares, wins" 3DS FC: 1521 3697 7272 <cite>NightMarishPie posted [p:890383695] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_McGuffi posted...</cite> <quote>Only cop's should have guns.</quote> </quote> what are you trying to say with this picture</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 11/14/17 3:18:23 PM #59:	GeneralZhao posted... tremain07 posted... There's no discussion because there's no solution, it's just apart of our country and people need to accept that, just treat them the same as you would a heavy storm. The only solution is one that appeases the right and the left. some people actually think this is the sad part pack it up guys shooting up a school is no different than it raining. It's not but it's better to think of it that way, be it a school, hospital, daycare, old folks home whatever. Thinking about how bad it is will only bring you pointless cynical ism,sadness and constantly repeating the same tired crap all the tv shows and hollywood do. It's better to just accept it for what is is and not let it affect you. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:890383759] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralZhao posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>There's no discussion because there's no solution, it's just apart of our country and people need to accept that, just treat them the same as you would a heavy storm. The only solution is one that appeases the right and the left.</quote> some people actually think this is the sad part pack it up guys shooting up a school is no different than it raining.</quote> It's not but it's better to think of it that way, be it a school, hospital, daycare, old folks home whatever. Thinking about how bad it is will only bring you pointless cynical ism,sadness and constantly repeating the same tired crap all the tv shows and hollywood do. It's better to just accept it for what is is and not let it affect you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 11/14/17 3:21:21 PM #60:	NightMarishPie posted... what are you trying to say with this picture Police are not trustworthy, and they definitely shouldn't be the only ones with guns. That will lead to more police brutality. --- gr8 b8 m8 <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:890383947] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMarishPie posted...</cite> <quote>what are you trying to say with this picture</quote> Police are not trustworthy, and they definitely shouldn't be the only ones with guns. That will lead to more police brutality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
southcoast09 11/14/17 3:21:58 PM #61:	Yaridovich posted... southcoast09 posted... What's your solution? Ban guns? Provide better outlets for mental health? X Y Z etc etc. There's a lot of ideas and 'solutions' being thrown around but nobody is doing anything at all. It's not that there's a lack of solution but a lack of action. Even if something doesn't work, isn't trying better than just shitting around? --- Stand for the anthem or sit for the game! <cite>southcoast09 posted [p:890383987] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yaridovich posted...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>What's your solution?</quote> Ban guns? Provide better outlets for mental health? X Y Z etc etc. There's a lot of ideas and 'solutions' being thrown around but nobody is doing anything at all. It's not that there's a lack of solution but a lack of action. Even if something doesn't work, isn't trying better than just shitting around?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 11/14/17 3:22:18 PM #62:	And sure enough, there's been a shooting in NC, 5 dead, 2 wounded. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:890384005] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote>And sure enough, there's been a shooting in NC, 5 dead, 2 wounded.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/14/17 3:23:04 PM #63:	https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A5.html Just get 34 states to agree to repeal the second amendment. Good luck with that, and the tyrannical enforcement scheme that's soon to follow. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:890384051] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote>https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A5.html Just get 34 states to agree to repeal the second amendment. Good luck with that, and the tyrannical enforcement scheme that's soon to follow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cherrys2000 11/14/17 3:23:50 PM #64:	Foppe posted... Cherrys2000 posted... because you don't stop gun violence by taking guns from law-abiding citizens None are law-abiding citizens until they press the trigger? Where could you have gotten that from? I said that people who follow the law should be given the chance to defend themselves against people who don't, since they're the only ones who are protected by strict gun control. <cite>Cherrys2000 posted [p:890384084] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Foppe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote>because you don't stop gun violence by taking guns from law-abiding citizens</quote> None are law-abiding citizens until they press the trigger?</quote> Where could you have gotten that from? I said that people who follow the law should be given the chance to defend themselves against people who don't, since they're the only ones who are protected by strict gun control.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 11/14/17 3:27:31 PM #66:	Cherrys2000 posted... Foppe posted... Cherrys2000 posted... because you don't stop gun violence by taking guns from law-abiding citizens None are law-abiding citizens until they press the trigger? Where could you have gotten that from? I said that people who follow the law should be given the chance to defend themselves against people who don't, since they're the only ones who are protected by strict gun control. And how do we know that they wont break the law one day? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:890384295] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Foppe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote>because you don't stop gun violence by taking guns from law-abiding citizens</quote> None are law-abiding citizens until they press the trigger?</quote> Where could you have gotten that from? I said that people who follow the law should be given the chance to defend themselves against people who don't, since they're the only ones who are protected by strict gun control.</quote> And how do we know that they wont break the law one day?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 11/14/17 3:28:21 PM #67:	Sparksfanboy posted... OP: Hey guys! We have a problem. CTs: What do you want to do about problem. OP: lists reasonable ways to help deal with problem. CTs: no response but deflections and emoji. This is why Trump isn't going to last til 2020 corphish How is is banning guns reasonable? Why would anyone support more spending on mental health when people either flat out don't believe in it or it's not a 100 percent accurate way to prevent shootings? --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:890384359] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sparksfanboy posted...</cite> <quote>OP: Hey guys! We have a problem. CTs: What do you want to do about problem. OP: lists reasonable ways to help deal with problem. CTs: no response but deflections and emoji. This is why Trump isn't going to last til 2020 corphish</quote> How is is banning guns reasonable? Why would anyone support more spending on mental health when people either flat out don't believe in it or it's not a 100 percent accurate way to prevent shootings?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 11/14/17 3:28:26 PM #68:	Sparksfanboy posted... OP: Hey guys! We have a problem. CTs: What do you want to do about problem. OP: lists reasonable ways to help deal with problem. More like OP: Well, um...gee...I don't know. Someone should just do something. --- gr8 b8 m8 <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:890384364] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sparksfanboy posted...</cite> <quote>OP: Hey guys! We have a problem. CTs: What do you want to do about problem. OP: lists reasonable ways to help deal with problem.</quote> More like OP: Well, um...gee...I don't know. Someone should just do something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/14/17 3:29:11 PM #69:	Reopen all the nuthouses. That'll take care of the bulk of the issue, as well as several more issues. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:890384411] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote>Reopen all the nuthouses. That'll take care of the bulk of the issue, as well as several more issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 11/14/17 3:30:44 PM #70:	Sparksfanboy posted... OP: Hey guys! We have a problem. CTs: What do you want to do about problem. OP: lists reasonable ways to help deal with problem. CTs: no response but deflections and emoji. This is why Trump isn't going to last til 2020 corphish What reasonable ways? Seriously. Look at history. Learn from it. --- The Official Odin* of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:890384504] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sparksfanboy posted...</cite> <quote>OP: Hey guys! We have a problem. CTs: What do you want to do about problem. OP: *lists reasonable ways to help deal with problem. CTs: no response but deflections and emoji. This is why Trump isn't going to last til 2020 corphish</quote> What reasonable ways? Seriously. Look at history. Learn from it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMarishPie 11/14/17 3:31:10 PM #71:	Pepys Monster posted... NightMarishPie posted... what are you trying to say with this picture Police are not trustworthy, and they definitely shouldn't be the only ones with guns. That will lead to more police brutality. You're being kind of vague. I'm kind of interpreting what you're saying as, "if I think the police wrongly point their guns at me, I should be able to point my guns at them." --- "Who dares, wins" 3DS FC: 1521 3697 7272 <cite>NightMarishPie posted [p:890384523] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMarishPie posted...</cite> <quote>what are you trying to say with this picture</quote> Police are not trustworthy, and they definitely shouldn't be the only ones with guns. That will lead to more police brutality.</quote> You're being kind of vague. I'm kind of interpreting what you're saying as, "if I think the police wrongly point their guns at me, I should be able to point my guns at them."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/14/17 3:31:23 PM #72:	"Disarm law abiding citizens" is never a reasonable way to help deal with the problem. --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890384534] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote>"Disarm law abiding citizens" is never a reasonable way to help deal with the problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 11/14/17 3:31:24 PM #73:	Yaridovich posted... southcoast09 posted... What's your solution? Ban guns? Provide better outlets for mental health? X Y Z etc etc. There's a lot of ideas and 'solutions' being thrown around but nobody is doing anything at all. It's not that there's a lack of solution but a lack of action. Even if something doesn't work, isn't trying better than just shitting around? Only when it concerns something important like healthcare. Look no further than Pepey for an example of this idocrisy. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:890384537] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yaridovich posted...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>What's your solution?</quote> Ban guns? Provide better outlets for mental health? X Y Z etc etc. There's a lot of ideas and 'solutions' being thrown around but nobody is doing anything at all. It's not that there's a lack of solution but a lack of action. Even if something doesn't work, isn't trying better than just shitting around?</quote> Only when it concerns something important like healthcare. Look no further than Pepey for an example of this idocrisy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 11/14/17 3:32:08 PM #74:	Questionmarktarius posted... Reopen all the nuthouses. That'll take care of the bulk of the issue, as well as several more issues. but it won't. they were closed because of how ineffective they were at handling and preventing crazies from being crazies, doping them up on pills didn't work, housing them together didn't work, it just lead to them turning on themselves, the staff or the staff abusing them for their sexual or otherwise pleasure. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:890384593] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Reopen all the nuthouses. That'll take care of the bulk of the issue, as well as several more issues.</quote> but it won't. they were closed because of how ineffective they were at handling and preventing crazies from being crazies, doping them up on pills didn't work, housing them together didn't work, it just lead to them turning on themselves, the staff or the staff abusing them for their sexual or otherwise pleasure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 11/14/17 3:34:19 PM #75:	tremain07 posted... Sparksfanboy posted... OP: Hey guys! We have a problem. CTs: What do you want to do about problem. OP: lists reasonable ways to help deal with problem. CTs: no response but deflections and emoji. This is why Trump isn't going to last til 2020 corphish How is is banning guns reasonable? Why would anyone support more spending on mental health when people either flat out don't believe in it* or it's not a 100 percent accurate way to prevent shootings? Sad how true the bolded is. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:890384727] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sparksfanboy posted...</cite> <quote>OP: Hey guys! We have a problem. CTs: What do you want to do about problem. OP: *lists reasonable ways to help deal with problem. CTs: no response but deflections and emoji. This is why Trump isn't going to last til 2020 corphish</quote> How is is banning guns reasonable? Why would anyone support more spending on mental health when people either flat out don't believe in it or it's not a 100 percent accurate way to prevent shootings?</quote> Sad how true the bolded is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cherrys2000 11/14/17 3:34:50 PM #76:	Foppe posted... Cherrys2000 posted... Foppe posted... Cherrys2000 posted... because you don't stop gun violence by taking guns from law-abiding citizens None are law-abiding citizens until they press the trigger? Where could you have gotten that from? I said that people who follow the law should be given the chance to defend themselves against people who don't, since they're the only ones who are protected by strict gun control. And how do we know that they wont break the law one day? Because, to paraphrase from The Federalist, a government that tries to stop impossible-to-predict, cosmic eventualities will fail. All you give are what-ifs. You can't deny that a) People will find ways to commit murders and get around the law, b) Law-abiding people can keep them in check, and c) They can't do so without a reliable weapon like a gun. <cite>Cherrys2000 posted [p:890384750] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Foppe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Foppe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote>because you don't stop gun violence by taking guns from law-abiding citizens</quote> None are law-abiding citizens until they press the trigger?</quote> Where could you have gotten that from? I said that people who follow the law should be given the chance to defend themselves against people who don't, since they're the only ones who are protected by strict gun control.</quote> And how do we know that they wont break the law one day?</quote> Because, to paraphrase from The Federalist, a government that tries to stop impossible-to-predict, cosmic eventualities will fail. All you give are what-ifs. You can't deny that a) People will find ways to commit murders and get around the law, b) Law-abiding people can keep them in check, and c) They can't do so without a reliable weapon like a gun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cherrys2000 11/14/17 3:44:21 PM #78:	Sparksfanboy posted... LightHawKnight posted... Sparksfanboy posted... OP: Hey guys! We have a problem. CTs: What do you want to do about problem. OP: lists reasonable ways to help deal with problem. CTs: no response but deflections and emoji. This is why Trump isn't going to last til 2020 corphish What reasonable ways? Seriously. Look at history. Learn from it. I am looking at history. Both Canada and Australia have gun laws that have resulted in sharp drops in gun violence since their implementation. You might not remember this but back in the 70s when Canada first introduced it's own firearm laws it was pretty gung-ho about firearms as well. In the years since gun violence has dropped significantly in Canada, and since it was introduced in Australia in 1996 gun violence even more significantly dropped. It's not possible to entirely remove gun violence from society, but it is possible to reduce the amount of it by a significant margin. Other countries that are similar to America culturally have done so to good effect already. America can do it too. Hell, even funding research and removing the ban on firearm violence research in America would go a long way in doing so. I mean it's either that, or just keep let it happening, or fix your mental health support system in America, and from what I've seen in the past year's hubub over Obamacare, I don't think that will ever happen Reshiram Actually, America's murder rate overall has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. Gun violence is a different story, but all that proves is what pro-gun advocates have been saying about violence happening regardless of weapon choice. And, believe it or not, it's the truth, most gun violence goes on in urban communities with handguns. Good luck telling the whole country to give up its guns down to the smallest pistol. You can't just "fix mental health support," either. That takes years of research and money. <cite>Cherrys2000 posted [p:890385353] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sparksfanboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sparksfanboy posted...</cite> <quote>OP: Hey guys! We have a problem. CTs: What do you want to do about problem. OP: lists reasonable ways to help deal with problem. CTs: no response but deflections and emoji. This is why Trump isn't going to last til 2020 corphish</quote> What reasonable ways? Seriously. Look at history. Learn from it.</quote> I am looking at history. Both Canada and Australia have gun laws that have resulted in sharp drops in gun violence since their implementation. You might not remember this but back in the 70s when Canada first introduced it's own firearm laws it was pretty gung-ho about firearms as well. In the years since gun violence has dropped significantly in Canada, and since it was introduced in Australia in 1996 gun violence even more significantly dropped. It's not possible to entirely remove gun violence from society, but it is possible to reduce the amount of it by a significant margin. Other countries that are similar to America culturally have done so to good effect already. America can do it too. Hell, even funding research and removing the ban on firearm violence research in America would go a long way in doing so. I mean it's either that, or just keep let it happening, or fix your mental health support system in America, and from what I've seen in the past year's hubub over Obamacare, I don't think that will ever happen Reshiram</quote> Actually, America's murder rate overall has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. Gun violence is a different story, but all that proves is what pro-gun advocates have been saying about violence happening regardless of weapon choice. And, believe it or not, it's the truth, most gun violence goes on in urban communities with handguns. Good luck telling the whole country to give up its guns down to the smallest pistol. You can't just "fix mental health support," either. That takes years of research and money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/14/17 3:45:12 PM #79:	Cherrys2000 posted... Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. Source? --- they shall be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes - averagejoel <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890385424] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. </quote> Source?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 11/14/17 3:47:21 PM #80:	Sparksfanboy posted... I am looking at history. Both Canada and Australia have gun laws that have resulted in sharp drops in gun violence since their implementation. That is, quite simply, a lie. Australia's gun violence was dropping for years before their gun ban, and if your contention is that less guns in Australia has prevented another mass shooting, that's not true either because there's more guns in Australia NOW than there was before their gun ban. Ever hear the saying "Correlation does not imply causation?" Yeah. Frantic people who are scared of guns love to scream that "we have to do something about gun violence" but the truth is, in the United States, if you aren't in a gang, don't commit crime and don't want to kill yourself, your chances of being killed using a firearm round down to nothing. And being killed with a RIFLE? You're three times more likely to be punched or kicked to death. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:890385539] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sparksfanboy posted...</cite> <quote>I am looking at history. Both Canada and Australia have gun laws that have resulted in sharp drops in gun violence since their implementation. </quote> That is, quite simply, a lie. Australia's gun violence was dropping for years before their gun ban, and if your contention is that less guns in Australia has prevented another mass shooting, that's not true either because there's more guns in Australia NOW than there was before their gun ban. Ever hear the saying "Correlation does not imply causation?" Yeah. Frantic people who are scared of guns love to scream that "we have to do something about gun violence" but the truth is, in the United States, if you aren't in a gang, don't commit crime and don't want to kill yourself, your chances of being killed using a firearm round down to nothing. And being killed with a RIFLE? You're three times more likely to be punched or kicked to death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/14/17 3:47:32 PM #81:	Cherrys2000 posted... Good luck telling the whole country to give up its guns down to the smallest pistol. If anything, that'll be a hell of kickstart for personal lasers and rail-guns. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:890385548] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Good luck telling the whole country to give up its guns down to the smallest pistol.</quote> If anything, that'll be a hell of kickstart for personal lasers and rail-guns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 11/14/17 3:49:37 PM #82:	Questionmarktarius posted... Cherrys2000 posted... Good luck telling the whole country to give up its guns down to the smallest pistol. If anything, that'll be a hell of kickstart for personal lasers and rail-guns. Or simple slam fire shotguns constructed from $15 of Home Depot supplies. Or are we going to ban steel piping as well? --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:890385681] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Good luck telling the whole country to give up its guns down to the smallest pistol.</quote> If anything, that'll be a hell of kickstart for personal lasers and rail-guns.</quote> Or simple slam fire shotguns constructed from $15 of Home Depot supplies. Or are we going to ban steel piping as well?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 11/14/17 3:50:46 PM #83:	--- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:890385754] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cherrys2000 11/14/17 3:52:29 PM #84:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Cherrys2000 posted... Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. Source? http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847 http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/03/the-australian-gun-ban-conceit/ <cite>Cherrys2000 posted [p:890385867] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. </quote> Source?</quote> http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847 http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/03/the-australian-gun-ban-conceit/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/14/17 3:54:59 PM #85:	r4X0r posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Cherrys2000 posted... Good luck telling the whole country to give up its guns down to the smallest pistol. If anything, that'll be a hell of kickstart for personal lasers and rail-guns. Or simple slam fire shotguns constructed from $15 of Home Depot supplies. Or are we going to ban steel piping as well? If shotgun shells end up banned, concrete-nali drivers can be (barely) modified into a desperation weapon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder-actuated_tool Or, just build a homemade shotgun out of metal bits and ground ping pong balls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpyHGPbpRE <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:890386041] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Good luck telling the whole country to give up its guns down to the smallest pistol.</quote> If anything, that'll be a hell of kickstart for personal lasers and rail-guns.</quote> Or simple slam fire shotguns constructed from $15 of Home Depot supplies. Or are we going to ban steel piping as well?</quote> If shotgun shells end up banned, concrete-nali drivers can be (barely) modified into a desperation weapon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder-actuated_tool Or, just build a homemade shotgun out of metal bits and ground ping pong balls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpyHGPbpRE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/14/17 4:00:47 PM #87:	Cherrys2000 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Cherrys2000 posted... Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. Source? http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847 http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/03/the-australian-gun-ban-conceit/ I love how manipulative these articles are with the stats. They mention how much it drops to make the US sound impressive. Of course they don't actually say what the murder rates in the US actually are. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:890386383] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. </quote> Source?</quote> http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847 http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/03/the-australian-gun-ban-conceit/</quote> I love how manipulative these articles are with the stats. They mention how much it drops to make the US sound impressive. Of course they don't actually say what the murder rates in the US actually are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cherrys2000 11/14/17 4:02:02 PM #88:	Darmik posted... Cherrys2000 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Cherrys2000 posted... Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. Source? http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847 http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/03/the-australian-gun-ban-conceit/ I love how manipulative these articles are with the stats. They mention how much it drops to make the US sound impressive. Of course they don't actually say what the murder rates in the US actually are. "Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent. Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women." Right fucking there, dude. <cite>Cherrys2000 posted [p:890386450] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. </quote> Source?</quote> http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847 http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/03/the-australian-gun-ban-conceit/</quote> I love how manipulative these articles are with the stats. They mention how much it drops to make the US sound impressive. Of course they don't actually say what the murder rates in the US actually are.</quote> "Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent. Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women." Right fucking there, dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DyingPancake 11/14/17 4:02:26 PM #89:	lol literally a "ban guns" topic --- Under a cold October sky, I wait I had ice cream with I Like Toast! <cite>DyingPancake posted [p:890386469] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote>lol literally a "ban guns" topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 11/14/17 4:05:46 PM #91:	See also: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/07/18/uk-knife-attacks-are-surging-n2026497 https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/21280-u-k-criminalizes-knife-possession-result-knife-violence-increases Or, for something completely silly, yet still somewhat related: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/shoppers-take-supermarket-trolleys-home-to-avoid-5p-plastic-bag-charge-a6690756.html <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:890386634] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote>See also: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/07/18/uk-knife-attacks-are-surging-n2026497 https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/21280-u-k-criminalizes-knife-possession-result-knife-violence-increases Or, for something completely silly, yet still somewhat related: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/shoppers-take-supermarket-trolleys-home-to-avoid-5p-plastic-bag-charge-a6690756.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 11/14/17 4:07:33 PM #92:	Cherrys2000 posted... Darmik posted... Cherrys2000 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Cherrys2000 posted... Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. Source? http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847 http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/03/the-australian-gun-ban-conceit/ I love how manipulative these articles are with the stats. They mention how much it drops to make the US sound impressive. Of course they don't actually say what the murder rates in the US actually are. "Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent. Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women." Right fucking there, dude. Murders in Bumfuck County in 2016: 1 Murders in Bumfuck Country in 2017: 2 "Good lord honey. The murder rate has doubled in the last year! We better move to Detroit just to be safe." --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:890386759] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. </quote> Source?</quote> http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847 http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/03/the-australian-gun-ban-conceit/</quote> I love how manipulative these articles are with the stats. They mention how much it drops to make the US sound impressive. Of course they don't actually say what the murder rates in the US actually are.</quote> "Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent. Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women." Right fucking there, dude.</quote> Murders in Bumfuck County in 2016: 1 Murders in Bumfuck Country in 2017: 2 "Good lord honey. The murder rate has doubled in the last year! We better move to Detroit just to be safe."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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r4X0r 11/14/17 4:09:20 PM #94:	fenderbender321 posted... Yup. You ban guns, and guess what? People still murder other people just as much, but with other things. No, in America, if you ban guns, people will still be murdering with guns, just at a higher rate because the law abiding portion of the public can no longer defend themselves. Chicago has a handgun ban yet 564 people have been murdered in Chicago with handguns so far in 2017. Banning something does not mean it goes away. See: drugs. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:890386868] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Yup. You ban guns, and guess what? People still murder other people just as much, but with other things.</quote> No, in America, if you ban guns, people will still be murdering with guns, just at a higher rate because the law abiding portion of the public can no longer defend themselves. Chicago has a handgun ban yet 564 people have been murdered in Chicago with handguns so far in 2017. Banning something does not mean it goes away. See: drugs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/14/17 4:10:30 PM #95:	r4X0r posted... Banning something does not mean it goes away. See: drugs. Hell, even lawn-darts. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:890386942] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>Banning something does not mean it goes away. See: drugs.</quote> Hell, even lawn-darts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cherrys2000 11/14/17 4:16:34 PM #96:	Darmik posted... Cherrys2000 posted... Darmik posted... Cherrys2000 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Cherrys2000 posted... Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. Source? http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847 http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/03/the-australian-gun-ban-conceit/ I love how manipulative these articles are with the stats. They mention how much it drops to make the US sound impressive. Of course they don't actually say what the murder rates in the US actually are. "Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent. Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women." Right fucking there, dude. Murders in Bumfuck County in 2016: 1 Murders in Bumfuck Country in 2017: 2 "Good lord honey. The murder rate has doubled in the last year! We better move to Detroit just to be safe." The question was never comparing the two murder rates, it was comparing how they changed since Australia's new laws to see if they had actually done something. <cite>Cherrys2000 posted [p:890387300] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cherrys2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, America's murder rate has decreased considerably more than Australia's since the time that policy was instituted. </quote> Source?</quote> http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847 http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/03/the-australian-gun-ban-conceit/</quote> I love how manipulative these articles are with the stats. They mention how much it drops to make the US sound impressive. Of course they don't actually say what the murder rates in the US actually are.</quote> "Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent. Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women." Right fucking there, dude.</quote> Murders in Bumfuck County in 2016: 1 Murders in Bumfuck Country in 2017: 2 "Good lord honey. The murder rate has doubled in the last year! We better move to Detroit just to be safe."</quote> The question was never comparing the two murder rates, it was comparing how they changed since Australia's new laws to see if they had actually done something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 11/14/17 4:20:40 PM #98:	fenderbender321 posted... r4X0r posted... fenderbender321 posted... Yup. You ban guns, and guess what? People still murder other people just as much, but with other things. No, in America, if you ban guns, people will still be murdering with guns, just at a higher rate because the law abiding portion of the public can no longer defend themselves. Chicago has a handgun ban yet 564 people have been murdered in Chicago with handguns so far in 2017. Banning something does not mean it goes away. See: drugs. I actually somewhat agree. But some countries have more or less had some success in their bans. A country-wide ban in the US would be more effective at reducing access to guns than just a city ban. I don't think Chicago even bans sellers from selling guns...there are literally gun stores in Chicago. At what point do we start banning metal lathes? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:890387548] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Yup. You ban guns, and guess what? People still murder other people just as much, but with other things.</quote> No, in America, if you ban guns, people will still be murdering with guns, just at a higher rate because the law abiding portion of the public can no longer defend themselves. Chicago has a handgun ban yet 564 people have been murdered in Chicago with handguns so far in 2017. Banning something does not mean it goes away. See: drugs.</quote> I actually somewhat agree. But some countries have more or less had some success in their bans. A country-wide ban in the US would be more effective at reducing access to guns than just a city ban. I don't think Chicago even bans sellers from selling guns...there are literally gun stores in Chicago.</quote> At what point do we start banning metal lathes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrunkenPilot72 11/14/17 4:21:44 PM #100:	We literally have decades worth of proof that firearm bans don't accomplish jack shit which is why any sort of proposed firearm legislation is DOA. Los Angeles was the poster city for inner city gun violence throughout the 90s with Chicago being the current poster city yet both cities have among the strictest firearm ownership laws in the country. Hell it wasn't even legal to own a handgun in Chicago from 1982 to 2010 (see McDonald v. City of Chicago). The NRA has nothing to do with this. The entire right side of the political spectrum has nothing to do with this. This is, and always has been, a case of criminals (who don't give a flying fuck about your firearm laws) preying on innocent people. Gun legislation is literally cut from the same cloth as Gay Conversion camps, the entirety of the Drug Abuse Resistance Education program, and teenage virginity pledge programs: feel good "do something" programs thought up by people who know nothing about the problem they are trying to fix (assuming it even is a problem to begin with) and just end up accomplishing nothing besides wasting a crap ton of money in the process. --- PSN: vyers72 FC: 0860-3464-0095 <cite>DrunkenPilot72 posted [p:890387623] in How come, ... [t:75990593]...</cite> <quote>We literally have decades worth of proof that firearm bans don't accomplish jack shit which is why any sort of proposed firearm legislation is DOA. Los Angeles was the poster city for inner city gun violence throughout the 90s with Chicago being the current poster city yet both cities have among the strictest firearm ownership laws in the country. Hell it wasn't even legal to own a handgun in Chicago from 1982 to 2010 (see McDonald v. City of Chicago). The NRA has nothing to do with this. The entire right side of the political spectrum has nothing to do with this. This is, and always has been, a case of criminals (who don't give a flying fuck about your firearm laws) preying on innocent people. Gun legislation is literally cut from the same cloth as Gay Conversion camps, the entirety of the Drug Abuse Resistance Education program, and teenage virginity pledge programs: feel good "do something" programs thought up by people who know nothing about the problem they are trying to fix (assuming it even is a problem to begin with) and just end up accomplishing nothing besides wasting a crap ton of money in the process.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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