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helIy 11/15/17 1:11:32 AM #1: |
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J_Dawg983 11/15/17 1:15:20 AM #2: |
Well they made diablo 3 a shit game and theyre forever on my shit list.
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Yellow 11/15/17 1:16:44 AM #3: |
They're ones to talk.
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Krazy_Kirby 11/15/17 1:22:22 AM #4: |
as if blizzard can talk. they have had mounts and vanity pets on the store for years....
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helIy 11/15/17 1:31:14 AM #5: |
Krazy_Kirby posted...
as if blizzard can talk. they have had mounts and vanity pets on the store for years.... which literally is nothing like that ea did to battlefront 2 J_Dawg983 posted... Well they made diablo 3 a shit game and theyre forever on my shit list. it's way better than diablo 2, so no --- welcome to my empire where everybody's f***ed up ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 11/15/17 1:35:39 AM #6: |
J_Dawg983 posted...
Well they made diablo 3 a shit game and theyre forever on my shit list. It got better. Diablo 2 is one of my top games ever but objectively I have to say that D3 eventually surpassed it. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krazy_Kirby 11/15/17 1:36:42 AM #7: |
helIy posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...as if blizzard can talk. they have had mounts and vanity pets on the store for years.... what about selling gold? because blizzard sells gold for WoW --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 11/15/17 1:58:35 AM #8: |
Krazy_Kirby posted...
what about selling gold? because blizzard sells gold for WoW For people lazier than me. Getting gold in wow is easy. You don't need to buy gold in wow. Blizzard made it an option so Chinese farmers would become pointless. --- I'm either failing at a silly joke or trying to help. http://i.imgur.com/m8f7VYf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0Lp7Agd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/47emEDA.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlazeAndBlade 11/15/17 2:00:47 AM #9: |
J_Dawg983 posted...
Well they made diablo 3 a shit game and theyre forever on my shit list. still better than what deep silver did to the sacred game series --- Having a goal is good, but don't let your goal depress you. Goals are meant to inspire. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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helIy 11/15/17 2:02:30 AM #10: |
Krazy_Kirby posted...
helIy posted...Krazy_Kirby posted...as if blizzard can talk. they have had mounts and vanity pets on the store for years.... not really. you buy a token for money, and you can either redeem it for a month of game time, or sell it on the auction house. it's not really like buying gold from chinese sellers, and actually doing that gets you banned. how wow does it is actually really nice. --- welcome to my empire where everybody's f***ed up ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TigerTycoon 11/15/17 2:04:17 AM #11: |
While Overwatch's loot crates system is better than EA's, Overwatch is what's responsible for the massive influx of loot boxes in fully priced AAA games as after other publishers saw Overwatch not only get away with it, but make massive amounts of money off of loot crates, they all started aggressively incorporating loot boxes into their own games.
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JunkoEnoshima 11/15/17 2:07:54 AM #12: |
yeah but overwatch didn't invent paying for predatory RNG, mobile games have been doin that for years
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TigerTycoon 11/15/17 2:15:51 AM #13: |
JunkoEnoshima posted...
yeah but overwatch didn't invent paying for predatory RNG, mobile games have been doin that for years Okay? The fact that Overwatch popularized loot crates in fully priced AAA games instead of inventing loot crates from scratch doesn't make them completely removed from the "AAA game loot crate epidemic" we're facing now as they would have you believe. It also doesn't change that the large majority of people who buy loot crates on any platform are either whales or gambling addicts, or both. --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krazy_Kirby 11/15/17 2:26:05 AM #14: |
TigerTycoon posted...
JunkoEnoshima posted...yeah but overwatch didn't invent paying for predatory RNG, mobile games have been doin that for years mass effect 3 multiplayer had rng loot crates --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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helIy 11/15/17 2:29:02 AM #15: |
TigerTycoon posted...
While Overwatch's loot crates system is better than EA's, Overwatch is what's responsible for the massive influx of loot boxes in fully priced AAA games as after other publishers saw Overwatch not only get away with it, but make massive amounts of money off of loot crates, they all started aggressively incorporating loot boxes into their own games. yeah, because overwatch was the first ever game to do that, and not the overwhelming amount of mobile games that've been doing it for literally so many years --- welcome to my empire where everybody's f***ed up ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MajinSoulx 11/15/17 2:39:57 AM #16: |
Wait, I'm not really up to date with the whole SC2 f2p switch. But back when I played it you most certainly had to buy certain commanders with money like Abatur e.g. Yes, it takes 0 hours to unlock him but you have to spend money on it and that's just as bad.
Besides, they themselves have a full priced game that's designed around lootboxes... --- PSN: UtoKid opinions =|= facts ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TigerTycoon 11/15/17 2:49:43 AM #17: |
helIy posted...
TigerTycoon posted...While Overwatch's loot crates system is better than EA's, Overwatch is what's responsible for the massive influx of loot boxes in fully priced AAA games as after other publishers saw Overwatch not only get away with it, but make massive amounts of money off of loot crates, they all started aggressively incorporating loot boxes into their own games. TigerTycoon posted... Okay? The fact that Overwatch popularized loot crates in fully priced AAA games instead of inventing loot crates from scratch doesn't make them completely removed from the "AAA game loot crate epidemic" we're facing now as they would have you believe. It also doesn't change that the large majority of people who buy loot crates on any platform are either whales or gambling addicts, or both. --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shadowsword87 11/15/17 2:52:06 AM #18: |
Y'all know the SC2 team has nothing to do with any of the other projects now, right?
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GanonsSpirit 11/15/17 2:56:57 AM #19: |
Uh, Overwatch didn't popularize lootboxes in AAA games. TF2 and CS:GO did.
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shadowsword87 11/15/17 2:58:50 AM #20: |
GanonsSpirit posted...
Uh, Overwatch didn't popularize lootboxes in AAA games. TF2 and CS:GO did. So they became popular immediately after Valve did it? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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helIy 11/15/17 2:59:18 AM #21: |
TigerTycoon posted...
JunkoEnoshima posted...yeah but overwatch didn't invent paying for predatory RNG, mobile games have been doin that for years except they did not popularize them they came out when lootboxes were already super popular in games like CSGO, TF2, and a slew of mobile games like clash of clans --- welcome to my empire where everybody's f***ed up ... Copied to Clipboard!
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T0ffee 11/15/17 3:52:29 AM #22: |
helIy posted...
except they did not popularize them https://www.giantbomb.com/loot-boxes/3015-9059/games/ You can see that directly after Overwatch came out, games with lootboxes start coming out every month. Sometimes, even just a few days in between. Before that, you'd see a few months or even a few years between games with lootboxes. So yeah, Overwatch kinda did popularize lootboxes. --- "Splashing water on a pervert is like putting lasers on a shark" - Shiho Shishido | FC: 2707-2635-3369 | IGN: Toffee (Moon) / Caramel (Sun) | ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaguya_Kimimaro 11/15/17 3:56:33 AM #23: |
GanonsSpirit posted...
Uh, Overwatch didn't popularize lootboxes in AAA games. TF2 and CS:GO did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLDid1UNyg8&t=922s Well if what this guy says can be trusted (Don't know him personally, so that's why I say that, I really don't know)..... TF2-Overwatch: 15 or around there games with boxes over......6 years I think?. Overwatch-Now: 22+ games with Boxes in one or two years. I mean MAYBE it not be the sole culprit for the boxes popularity, but if what he says is right it's one of the big offenders..... --- PSN: http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/TwilightGundam01.png TFW: You're praying for an SR/SSR CHARACTER and get nothing but crap: https://i.imgur.com/T7oRxq3.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JunkoEnoshima 11/15/17 4:06:27 AM #24: |
TigerTycoon posted...
they would not have me believe this --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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T0ffee 11/15/17 4:12:27 AM #25: |
JunkoEnoshima posted...
TigerTycoon posted... https://www.gamespot.com/articles/overwatch-doesnt-belong-in-loot-box-controversy-di/1100-6454766/ quote from Blizzard CEO Mike Morhaime "I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with crates that give you randomized items..." "I think that whatever the controversy is, I don't think Overwatch belongs in that controversy." --- "Splashing water on a pervert is like putting lasers on a shark" - Shiho Shishido | FC: 2707-2635-3369 | IGN: Toffee (Moon) / Caramel (Sun) | ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DocDelicious 11/15/17 4:59:05 AM #26: |
Diablo 3, Heroes of the Storm, Overwatch, World of Warcraft, Hearthstone. All loaded with microtransactions.
They picked they only game in their line-up that doesn't have microtransactions, held it up and went, "Don't look at all the other nonsense please". --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GanonsSpirit 11/15/17 5:04:40 AM #27: |
T0ffee posted...
https://www.giantbomb.com/loot-boxes/3015-9059/games/ A third of the games after Overwatch are in series that had lootboxes before Overwatch. Half of them are from EA or Activision, which were already shoving them into whatever they could. --- http://i.imgur.com/tsQUpxC.jpg Thanks, Nade Duck! [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[|||||||||||||]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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helIy 11/15/17 6:04:03 AM #28: |
why is cod 4 original on that list?
it didn't have loot boxes then --- welcome to my empire where everybody's f***ed up ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ultima_Dragoon 11/15/17 6:42:19 AM #29: |
Overwatch is a solid game first and foremost and the loot box system was welcomed because it was a solid influx of cool cosmetic shit that was a bonus to playing the game.
Now loot boxes are overdone, stale, and are starting to make games grindier, and the whole focus of these games is how much shit are you willing to put up with to get those cosmetic (and sometimes more than cosmetic) items instead of focusing on enjoying the actual game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Babbit55 11/15/17 7:41:22 AM #30: |
Ah yes, Blizzard ACTIVISION, that well know bastion of decently in the gaming arena....
Oh wait no, Activision is literally the worst offender for bull in gaming, hell there new patent is literally a way to sell DLC guns easier with matchmaking.... http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-10-18-activision-patented-method-of-tuning-matchmaking-to-boost-microtransactions Also, Blizzard have tons of games with Microtransactions up the arse, and Star Craft 2 does have microtransactions to buy commanders....... https://eu.shop.battle.net/en-gb/family/starcraft-ii Also that free to play tweet, most misleading tweet ever. Only free to play all commanders to level 5* also only 1st part of the campaign* --- GT:- Babbit55 PC - i5 4670k, 16g ram, RX 480, 2tb hybrid drive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiggy101011 11/15/17 7:46:03 AM #31: |
Halo 5 had loot crates and that game out in October 2015 while Overwatch came out in May 2016. So wouldn't Halo 5 be the game that popularized it?
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adjl 11/15/17 8:05:37 AM #32: |
helIy posted...
they came out when lootboxes were already super popular in games like CSGO, TF2, and a slew of mobile games like clash of clans The key difference being that none of those games are $60. TF2 was once a paid game, but went F2P when they decided the F2P+Microtransaction model made more sense. helIy posted... J_Dawg983 posted...Well they made diablo 3 a shit game and theyre forever on my shit list. Only after they abandoned their original monetization plan that resulted in the core loot mechanics of the game being gutted to promote AH use and thereby make ActiBlizz more money. People saying Diablo 3 sucked are generally saying that because they tried it near launch and were so thoroughly disappointed that they have no interest in giving it another chance, rather than based on trying it more recently. The only reason the game's any decent now is because people hated the RMAH so much that Blizzard needed to axe it for the game to have any chance of continued success (which is to say, further updates and content releases to sell more copies and entice existing players to buy DLC/expansions, as well as any ability to ever hype a Diablo 4). They made Diablo 3 a bad game with their monetization ideas, and fixed them not out of any sort of good will, but because the bad PR was hurting their bottom line. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-Komaiko54- 11/15/17 8:45:54 AM #33: |
Jiggy101011 posted...
Halo 5 had loot crates and that game out in October 2015 while Overwatch came out in May 2016. So wouldn't Halo 5 be the game that popularized it? The difference is Halo 5 was shit and Overwatch exploded on all platforms, thus shoving the lootbox scam to everyone --- "Is it a good time, or is it highly inappropriate?" - Alvvays http://i.imgur.com/rNCkhGc.gif http://i.imgur.com/BRGmYpZ.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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green dragon 11/15/17 8:49:34 AM #34: |
I legit have zero respect for anyone who complains about lootboxes in overwatch.
After you pay for the game, you get free maps, free heroes, and free balances. Lootboxes only contain cosmetic items, and it really isn't hard to build up currency in overwatch. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ultima_Dragoon 11/15/17 8:57:14 AM #35: |
green dragon posted...
and it really isn't hard to build up currency in overwatch. Well, I was with you until that part. It didn't use to be hard, until they did us a favor and removed that pesky gold from showing up so often, and decreasing the duplicates chances so that you won't get the gold compensation. I mean, it was good in theory, but now I'm perpetually broke. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dikitain 11/15/17 9:31:18 AM #36: |
Yellow posted...
They're ones to talk. I don't know if it has been mentioned before but: HS = Free to play game Battlefront 2 = 60 FUCKING DOLLARS ON TOP OF WALLET MOLESTATION!!!!!!!!!!! --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Babbit55 11/15/17 9:32:57 AM #37: |
Dikitain posted...
Yellow posted...They're ones to talk. Aye, however there tweet is misleading at best! Babbit55 posted... Ah yes, Blizzard ACTIVISION, that well know bastion of decently in the gaming arena.... --- GT:- Babbit55 PC - i5 4670k, 16g ram, RX 480, 2tb hybrid drive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-Komaiko54- 11/15/17 9:44:22 AM #38: |
green dragon posted...
I legit have zero respect for anyone who complains about lootboxes in overwatch. You have to unlock every blue/gray item in the game before you can start piling up money even then you only get like 50-75 coins per regular box lmao Don't pretend like there wasn't a justified outrage during the bull crap anniversary event --- "Is it a good time, or is it highly inappropriate?" - Alvvays http://i.imgur.com/rNCkhGc.gif http://i.imgur.com/BRGmYpZ.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfestedAdam 11/15/17 9:51:12 AM #39: |
Overall I wouldn't say Blizzard is a perfect and flawless company but I still feel they are more willing to listen to their fans and fulfill their needs, at some point, more so than some other AAA developers.
MajinSoulx posted... Wait, I'm not really up to date with the whole SC2 f2p switch. But back when I played it you most certainly had to buy certain commanders with money like Abatur e.g. Yes, it takes 0 hours to unlock him but you have to spend money on it and that's just as bad. I believe the Wings of Liberty campaign is now free. Co-co commander Raynor, Kerrigan, and Artanis can be played for free while the paid commanders can be played for free up until level 5. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/21173629/starcraft-ii-going-free-to-play-explained-11-3-2017 Mead posted... objectively I have to say that D3 eventually surpassed it. Even as someone who likes Diablo III more than Diablo II, I am not sure what you mean by this. Please clarify. SunWuKung420 posted... Krazy_Kirby posted...what about selling gold? because blizzard sells gold for WoW helIy posted... Krazy_Kirby posted...what about selling gold? because blizzard sells gold for WoW To some degree I see Blizzard allowing players to sell gold to be almost on par with Isk being sold in EVE Online. Players can sell Isk for gametime or buy Isk to avoid the need to farm. --- "You must gather your party before venturing forth" "Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JoanOfArcade 11/15/17 9:59:06 AM #40: |
I'm gonna buy like 40 bucks worth of in game currency for battlefront 2 right now, fight me
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papercup 11/15/17 10:12:02 AM #41: |
helIy posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...as if blizzard can talk. they have had mounts and vanity pets on the store for years.... Well, it's better NOW. But I'm not going to deny that it was a pile of shit at launch, and was so for a long time. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 11/15/17 10:26:09 AM #42: |
JoanOfArcade posted...
I'm gonna buy like 40 bucks worth of in game currency for battlefront 2 right now, fight me >.> --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ultima_Dragoon 11/15/17 10:38:47 AM #43: |
JoanOfArcade posted...
I'm gonna buy like 40 bucks worth of in game currency for battlefront 2 right now, fight me Well you're clearly stronger now so I can't fight you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZiggiStardust 11/15/17 10:42:20 AM #44: |
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AllstarSniper32 11/15/17 11:04:16 AM #45: |
-Komaiko54- posted...
green dragon posted...I legit have zero respect for anyone who complains about lootboxes in overwatch. None of this matters because the only thing you get from Overwatch loot crates are cosmetic items. You don't get anything like a hero unlock, or a damage boosting item. That's the problem with people trying to compare the current situation with Overwatch. The two loot crate system are completely different. And if BF2 had the same loot crate system as Overwatch no one would care. Because having loot crates solely for cosmetic items is fine. You know what I'd want a chance to get in a BF2 loot crate? A pink Vader skin. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JoanOfArcade 11/15/17 11:39:20 AM #46: |
adjl posted...
JoanOfArcade posted...I'm gonna buy like 40 bucks worth of in game currency for battlefront 2 right now, fight me Nah I just extra money and have no problem getting extra shit. I'll still be terrible at the game. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JoanOfArcade 11/15/17 11:42:23 AM #47: |
I'm gonna shill for EA now if you get EA access they give you a ten hour trial of the full game and the campaign is like six hours, so you could play the campaign and a few hours of multiplayer for like five or ten bucks I think it is.
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helIy 11/15/17 2:04:33 PM #48: |
i mean or you could wait and get it from redbox and do the same thing, cheaper, and not be giving EA any money
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Blightzkrieg 11/15/17 2:05:39 PM #49: |
AllstarSniper32 posted...
You know what I'd want a chance to get in a BF2 loot crate? A pink Vader skin. I'd love a summer event for BF2 where you get swimsuit versions for everybody. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoreRpgs 11/15/17 2:10:12 PM #50: |
J_Dawg983 posted...
Well they made diablo 3 a shit game and theyre forever on my shit list. Nah its a good game ... Copied to Clipboard!
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