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solosnake 11/15/17 10:10:27 AM #1:	Idk, something about seeing Final Fantasy 15 and 13-3 and all this insane amount of games makes it a little off putting --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade http://i.imgur.com/MYYEIx5.gif http://i.imgur.com/WGE12ef.jpg <cite>solosnake posted [p:890432693] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>Idk, something about seeing Final Fantasy 15 and 13-3 and all this insane amount of games makes it a little off putting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 11/15/17 10:11:46 AM #3:	I feel as though it's kind of lost its identity over the past several games, and Square doesn't really know what to do with it --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:890432762] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>I feel as though it's kind of lost its identity over the past several games, and Square doesn't really know what to do with it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 11/15/17 10:11:50 AM #4:	It used to be. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:890432767] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>It used to be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xelltrix 11/15/17 10:12:53 AM #5:	M_Live posted... Overall, yes. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea <cite>Xelltrix posted [p:890432823] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>M_Live posted...</cite> <quote>Overall, yes.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SavenForever 11/15/17 10:15:26 AM #6:	BLAKUboy posted... It used to be. This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present --- http://i.imgur.com/aFt7pKH.jpg <cite>SavenForever posted [p:890432947] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>It used to be.</quote> This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoGCyN 11/15/17 10:17:12 AM #8:	SavenForever posted... BLAKUboy posted... It used to be. This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present --- --- <cite>DoGCyN posted [p:890433036] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>It used to be.</quote> This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waddlez 11/15/17 10:44:38 AM #9:	It used to be --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll36rxs0DB1qhmn4do1_400.gif http://img4.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-cats-kitten-box-366664.gif <cite>Waddlez posted [p:890434278] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>It used to be</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mikablu 11/15/17 10:49:07 AM #11:	It's pretty hit-or-miss lately. <cite>Mikablu posted [p:890434487] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>It's pretty hit-or-miss lately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 11/15/17 10:49:33 AM #12:	SavenForever posted... BLAKUboy posted... It used to be. This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present good post --- A Green Butter Alt http://i.imgur.com/LhwwG.gif <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:890434505] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>It used to be.</quote> This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present</quote> good post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 11/15/17 10:53:11 AM #13:	SavenForever posted... BLAKUboy posted... It used to be. This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present I'm on the fence about FFX being lumped in with the dark age. I can see someone making a reasonable argument for excluding it from the golden age though. How about we compromise and say it was the turning point. Not of the Golden or Dark Age, but rather the point where the tide turned. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:890434671] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>It used to be.</quote> This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present</quote> I'm on the fence about FFX being lumped in with the dark age. I can see someone making a reasonable argument for excluding it from the golden age though. How about we compromise and say it was the turning point. Not of the Golden or Dark Age, but rather the point where the tide turned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joenage 11/15/17 10:53:25 AM #14:	FFX was great, it was the correct way of doing a modern FF game. Things went downhill after that. --- Joenage. <cite>Joenage posted [p:890434682] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>FFX was great, it was the correct way of doing a modern FF game. Things went downhill after that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bluezero 11/15/17 10:54:48 AM #15:	Why did I buy XV? --- http://i.imgur.com/VleHYd3.png http://steamsigmaker.de/std/_bluezero_.png <cite>bluezero posted [p:890434745] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>Why did I buy XV?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 11/15/17 10:55:00 AM #16:	FFXII is probably the last universally critically acclaimed Final Fantasy title, made even stronger by the HD Zodiac Age re-release. The others do seem a bit inconsistent. XIII might have been passable, and XIII-2 might have greatly improved upon the gameplay of XIII, but by the time Lightning Returns hits people are sick of the universe and the new gameplay tweaks and time mechanics just make it worse. And XV was released incomplete and fell significantly short of a masterpiece. --- Geraldo Riviera's facial hair is a hate crime 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:890434750] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>FFXII is probably the last universally critically acclaimed Final Fantasy title, made even stronger by the HD Zodiac Age re-release. The others do seem a bit inconsistent. XIII might have been passable, and XIII-2 might have greatly improved upon the gameplay of XIII, but by the time Lightning Returns hits people are sick of the universe and the new gameplay tweaks and time mechanics just make it worse. And XV was released incomplete and fell significantly short of a masterpiece.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShotgunSilencer 11/15/17 10:55:43 AM #17:	SavenForever posted... BLAKUboy posted... It used to be. This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present This is great. One exception, I would put X in the golden age. X was amazing to me. Might even be my favorite. Also I havent played the most recent so I cant really comment on that. --- Big Blue! <cite>ShotgunSilencer posted [p:890434794] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>It used to be.</quote> This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present</quote> This is great. One exception, I would put X in the golden age. X was amazing to me. Might even be my favorite. Also I havent played the most recent so I cant really comment on that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaiganeer 11/15/17 10:56:58 AM #18:	it used to be the AAA jrpg franchise, but it started declining after the generation shift to ps3 and onwards i still enjoy the games for the most part (i maintain that 13 and 13-2 were good, that 14ARR continues to be a great mmo and that 15 was a mix of neat ideas that fell flat on execution), but like someone else said, late SNES/ps1 was the golden era also, those games were products of their time and i don't think you could make them work well in a modern context. to their credit, SE has been trying (and failing) to modernize the series <cite>Kaiganeer posted [p:890434856] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>it used to be the AAA jrpg franchise, but it started declining after the generation shift to ps3 and onwards i still enjoy the games for the most part (i maintain that 13 and 13-2 were good, that 14ARR continues to be a great mmo and that 15 was a mix of neat ideas that fell flat on execution), but like someone else said, late SNES/ps1 was the golden era also, those games were products of their time and i don't think you could make them work well in a modern context. to their credit, SE has been trying (and failing) to modernize the series</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 11/15/17 11:01:37 AM #19:	Romulox28 posted... SavenForever posted... BLAKUboy posted... It used to be. This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present good post I'd agree. Even though X was awful for me, I can see why it was still a good game. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:890435075] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>It used to be.</quote> This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present</quote> good post</quote>I'd agree. Even though X was awful for me, I can see why it was still a good game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/15/17 11:15:48 AM #20:	thanosibe posted... Romulox28 posted... SavenForever posted... BLAKUboy posted... It used to be. This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present good post I'd agree. I would put X as the last in the golden age. X-2 as the start of the dark age. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:890435790] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>It used to be.</quote> This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present</quote> good post</quote>I'd agree.</quote> I would put X as the last in the golden age. X-2 as the start of the dark age.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 11/15/17 11:21:30 AM #21:	FF15 and FF13 (1-3) were indeed off putting that is why you should instead play FF14 I had felt like FF was basically dead until I got FF14 on humble bundle for $4.50 2 years ago Now I feel like FF is alive. If they can recapture the feel of old FF using an MMO (which they have done with FFXIV) then one day they can do it again with single player. They just need to stop using the people who failed to capture it in a single players game and stop overthinking how to make it. One of their big problems with the single player games is instead of copying their older games, they are trying to copy modern games like Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed and BS like that. And that is what FFXIV realm reborn does differently. It takes heavily from the older series to the point where it has some side content that is literally straight out of the older games. Like right now we actually went to Ivalice and met with a guy named ~~Ramza.~~ --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:890436095] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>FF15 and FF13 (1-3) were indeed off putting that is why you should instead play FF14 I had felt like FF was basically dead until I got FF14 on humble bundle for $4.50 2 years ago Now I feel like FF is alive. If they can recapture the feel of old FF using an MMO (which they have done with FFXIV) then one day they can do it again with single player. They just need to stop using the people who failed to capture it in a single players game and stop overthinking how to make it. One of their big problems with the single player games is instead of copying their older games, they are trying to copy modern games like Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed and BS like that. And that is what FFXIV realm reborn does differently. It takes heavily from the older series to the point where it has some side content that is literally straight out of the older games. Like right now we actually went to Ivalice and met with a guy named Ramza.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SavenForever 11/15/17 11:24:57 AM #22:	NeoShadowhen posted... SavenForever posted... BLAKUboy posted... It used to be. This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present I'm on the fence about FFX being lumped in with the dark age. I can see someone making a reasonable argument for excluding it from the golden age though. How about we compromise and say it was the turning point. Not of the Golden or Dark Age, but rather the point where the tide turned. I was kinda wanting to put it in a separate era of its own. I do like the game to an extent, but it was a considerable step down from the last games. And the series following X has been mostly a miss, that's was the main reason why I put it in the Dark Age. --- http://i.imgur.com/aFt7pKH.jpg <cite>SavenForever posted [p:890436313] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>It used to be.</quote> This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present</quote> I'm on the fence about FFX being lumped in with the dark age. I can see someone making a reasonable argument for excluding it from the golden age though. How about we compromise and say it was the turning point. Not of the Golden or Dark Age, but rather the point where the tide turned.</quote> I was kinda wanting to put it in a separate era of its own. I do like the game to an extent, but it was a considerable step down from the last games. And the series following X has been mostly a miss, that's was the main reason why I put it in the Dark Age.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 11/15/17 11:26:02 AM #23:	X-XII is more an in-between age. I wouldn't even call anything in that range a "turning point" to the dark age. The dark age just sort of happened with XIII because I guess SE didn't want to make good games anymore. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:890436383] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>X-XII is more an in-between age. I wouldn't even call anything in that range a "turning point" to the dark age. The dark age just sort of happened with XIII because I guess SE didn't want to make good games anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/15/17 11:26:39 AM #24:	Overall it's a good series and I can't help but feel that many of the "bad" games like 13 are bad because of console hardware limitations. When people say "you run down hallways for 40 hours" I hear "that was probably easy to render with the flashy graphics that Japanese devs are known for." --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890436415] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>Overall it's a good series and I can't help but feel that many of the "bad" games like 13 are bad because of console hardware limitations. When people say "you run down hallways for 40 hours" I hear "that was probably easy to render with the flashy graphics that Japanese devs are known for."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 11/15/17 11:35:18 AM #25:	BLAKUboy posted... The dark age just sort of happened with XIII because I guess SE didn't want to make good games anymore. It didn't just happen. It was because they struggled to maintain the balance of graphics and gameplay. They wanted movie cgi like graphics through the whole game. And when they had achieved this, they looked at the world and said it was too hard to put stuff like towns in the game now like in previous FF. --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:890436899] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>The dark age just sort of happened with XIII because I guess SE didn't want to make good games anymore.</quote> It didn't just happen. It was because they struggled to maintain the balance of graphics and gameplay. They wanted movie cgi like graphics through the whole game. And when they had achieved this, they looked at the world and said it was too hard to put stuff like towns in the game now like in previous FF.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 11/15/17 11:39:00 AM #26:	ChromaticAngel posted... Overall it's a good series and I can't help but feel that many of the "bad" games like 13 are bad because of console hardware limitations. When people say "you run down hallways for 40 hours" I hear "that was probably easy to render with the flashy graphics that Japanese devs are known for." I don't think hardware has anything to do with that, though. The lack of creativity extends to characterization and design too, and a plot that was somehow less ambitious (and less rewarding) than most of it's better loved predecessors. And even still, 13 was actually liked. It takes two more sequels for its bad reputation to set in and sour people to the franchise on the whole. --- Geraldo Riviera's facial hair is a hate crime 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:890437101] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>Overall it's a good series and I can't help but feel that many of the "bad" games like 13 are bad because of console hardware limitations. When people say "you run down hallways for 40 hours" I hear "that was probably easy to render with the flashy graphics that Japanese devs are known for."</quote> I don't think hardware has anything to do with that, though. The lack of creativity extends to characterization and design too, and a plot that was somehow less ambitious (and less rewarding) than most of it's better loved predecessors. And even still, 13 was actually liked. It takes two more sequels for its bad reputation to set in and sour people to the franchise on the whole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 11/15/17 11:42:48 AM #27:	hollow_shrine posted... And even still, 13 was actually liked. It takes two more sequels for its bad reputation to set in and sour people to the franchise on the whole. You have that backwards. XIII was hated, and it was the sequels that almost had people forgiving them. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:890437320] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>And even still, 13 was actually liked. It takes two more sequels for its bad reputation to set in and sour people to the franchise on the whole.</quote> You have that backwards. XIII was hated, and it was the sequels that almost had people forgiving them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/15/17 11:44:00 AM #28:	hollow_shrine posted... ChromaticAngel posted... Overall it's a good series and I can't help but feel that many of the "bad" games like 13 are bad because of console hardware limitations. When people say "you run down hallways for 40 hours" I hear "that was probably easy to render with the flashy graphics that Japanese devs are known for." I don't think hardware has anything to do with that, though. The lack of creativity extends to characterization and design too, and a plot that was somehow less ambitious (and less rewarding) than most of it's better loved predecessors. And even still, 13 was actually liked. It takes two more sequels for its bad reputation to set in and sour people to the franchise on the whole. 13 wasn't a terrible game, it was just repetitive with a large amount of story delivered through codex entries (violation of show, don't tell). It fell flat in a series with a generally high standard of quality. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890437387] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>Overall it's a good series and I can't help but feel that many of the "bad" games like 13 are bad because of console hardware limitations. When people say "you run down hallways for 40 hours" I hear "that was probably easy to render with the flashy graphics that Japanese devs are known for."</quote> I don't think hardware has anything to do with that, though. The lack of creativity extends to characterization and design too, and a plot that was somehow less ambitious (and less rewarding) than most of it's better loved predecessors. And even still, 13 was actually liked. It takes two more sequels for its bad reputation to set in and sour people to the franchise on the whole.</quote> 13 wasn't a terrible game, it was just repetitive with a large amount of story delivered through codex entries (violation of show, don't tell). It fell flat in a series with a generally high standard of quality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 11/15/17 11:46:27 AM #29:	hollow_shrine posted... The lack of creativity extends to characterization and design too, and a plot that was somehow less ambitious people liked Lightning's design, but you might have a point with the rest of the cast didn't Amano design them all though? hollow_shrine posted... And even still, 13 was actually liked. It takes two more sequels for its bad reputation to set in and sour people to the franchise on the whole. It had apologists and people who never played an FF game before it yes, but generally it seemed not very liked. --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:890437514] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>The lack of creativity extends to characterization and design too, and a plot that was somehow less ambitious</quote> people liked Lightning's design, but you might have a point with the rest of the cast didn't Amano design them all though? <cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>And even still, 13 was actually liked. It takes two more sequels for its bad reputation to set in and sour people to the franchise on the whole.</quote> It had apologists and people who never played an FF game before it yes, but generally it seemed not very liked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 11/15/17 11:48:04 AM #30:	Esrac posted... thanosibe posted... Romulox28 posted... SavenForever posted... BLAKUboy posted... It used to be. This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present good post I'd agree. I would put X as the last in the golden age. X-2 as the start of the dark age. I personally didn't like it myself. And nothing good really came after that. But I could see people putting X in either category. Especially since X started the sequel mess within the franchise. Kind of negating the point of calling it Final Fantasy. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:890437601] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>It used to be.</quote> This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present</quote> good post</quote>I'd agree.</quote> I would put X as the last in the golden age. X-2 as the start of the dark age.</quote>I personally didn't like it myself. And nothing good really came after that. But I could see people putting X in either category. Especially since X started the sequel mess within the franchise. Kind of negating the point of calling it Final Fantasy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SavenForever 11/15/17 12:19:27 PM #31:	thanosibe posted... I would put X as the last in the golden age. X-2 as the start of the dark age.I personally didn't like it myself. And nothing good really came after that. But I could see people putting X in either category. Especially since X started the sequel mess within the franchise. Kind of negating the point of calling it Final Fantasy. Technically that started with FFV and that anime sequel. :P BLAKUboy posted... hollow_shrine posted... And even still, 13 was actually liked. It takes two more sequels for its bad reputation to set in and sour people to the franchise on the whole. You have that backwards. XIII was hated, and it was the sequels that almost had people forgiving them. This. It was also the first FF that I ever saw Japan reject. --- http://i.imgur.com/aFt7pKH.jpg <cite>SavenForever posted [p:890439365] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote> I would put X as the last in the golden age. X-2 as the start of the dark age.I personally didn't like it myself. And nothing good really came after that. But I could see people putting X in either category. Especially since X started the sequel mess within the franchise. Kind of negating the point of calling it Final Fantasy.</quote> Technically that started with FFV and that anime sequel. :P <cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>And even still, 13 was actually liked. It takes two more sequels for its bad reputation to set in and sour people to the franchise on the whole.</quote> You have that backwards. XIII was hated, and it was the sequels that almost had people forgiving them.</quote> This. It was also the first FF that I ever saw Japan reject.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wedge Antilles 11/15/17 12:20:12 PM #32:	It's an inconsistent franchise. Some really good games, some really garbage ones. --- I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me. <cite>Wedge Antilles posted [p:890439415] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>It's an inconsistent franchise. Some really good games, some really garbage ones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prettyprincess 11/15/17 12:20:59 PM #33:	IV is the best game ever created --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:890439468] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>IV is the best game ever created</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rhklce 11/15/17 12:23:10 PM #35:	XIV is rad. Like, ARR XIV. <cite>rhklce posted [p:890439594] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>XIV is rad. Like, ARR XIV.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 11/15/17 12:24:34 PM #36:	SavenForever posted... BLAKUboy posted... It used to be. This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present This so hard. And no people, X doesn't belong in the Golden Age. X was a pile of ass. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:890439688] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>It used to be.</quote> This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present</quote> This so hard. And no people, X doesn't belong in the Golden Age. X was a pile of ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thompsontalker7 11/15/17 12:25:26 PM #37:	Overall it's 50/50 Some games like 1/2/3/5 have very little identity and there hasn't been a good single-player FF since X --- Joffery Baratheon did nothing wrong. (1 month rent-a-sig) President Trump is awesome. (1 month rent-a-sig) <cite>thompsontalker7 posted [p:890439731] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>Overall it's 50/50 Some games like 1/2/3/5 have very little identity and there hasn't been a good single-player FF since X</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VerisimiIitude 11/15/17 12:28:33 PM #38:	Its a good franchise. I blame a lot of the issues with later entries on the developer/publishers. I feel like the later chapters in FFXV were likely a rush job for example. --- Onyx87 Feel the love... <cite>VerisimiIitude posted [p:890439914] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>Its a good franchise. I blame a lot of the issues with later entries on the developer/publishers. I feel like the later chapters in FFXV were likely a rush job for example.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wedge Antilles 11/15/17 12:30:13 PM #39:	TrevorBlack79 posted... SavenForever posted... BLAKUboy posted... It used to be. This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present This so hard. And no people, X doesn't belong in the Golden Age. X was a pile of ass. I've always hated FFX but the majority love it. It's probably one of the 3 most loved with VI and VI being the others. It should be in the golden age. --- I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me. <cite>Wedge Antilles posted [p:890440013] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>It used to be.</quote> This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present</quote> This so hard. And no people, X doesn't belong in the Golden Age. X was a pile of ass.</quote> I've always hated FFX but the majority love it. It's probably one of the 3 most loved with VI and VI being the others. It should be in the golden age.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezCaughtIt 11/15/17 12:30:54 PM #40:	TrevorBlack79 posted... SavenForever posted... BLAKUboy posted... It used to be. This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present This so hard. And no people, X doesn't belong in the Golden Age. X was a pile of ass. X and XII are objectively good games and putting them in the "dark age" is asinine. --- *The user formally known as freakofnature30* ROCK FLAAAAG AND EAAAAAAAAAGLLLLLLLE <cite>DezCaughtIt posted [p:890440053] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>It used to be.</quote> This. In general: Pre-Golden Age: FFI - FFIII Golden Age of Final Fantasy: FFIV - FFIX Dark Age of Final Fantasy: FFX - Present</quote> This so hard. And no people, X doesn't belong in the Golden Age. X was a pile of ass.</quote> X and XII are objectively good games and putting them in the "dark age" is asinine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 11/15/17 12:31:59 PM #41:	DezCaughtIt posted... X and XII are objectively good games You mean objectively bad. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:890440114] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezCaughtIt posted...</cite> <quote>X and XII are objectively good games</quote> You mean objectively bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 11/15/17 12:33:02 PM #42:	Yes, it is. :v It has stumbled here and there but overall the series is great. --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:890440182] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>Yes, it is. :v It has stumbled here and there but overall the series is great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prettyprincess 11/15/17 12:33:17 PM #43:	X is trashcan --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:890440193] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>X is trashcan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezCaughtIt 11/15/17 12:34:47 PM #44:	TrevorBlack79 posted... DezCaughtIt posted... X and XII are objectively good games You mean objectively bad. If you don't like them fine, but they're not bad games by any stretch of the imagination. --- *The user formally known as freakofnature30* ROCK FLAAAAG AND EAAAAAAAAAGLLLLLLLE <cite>DezCaughtIt posted [p:890440271] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezCaughtIt posted...</cite> <quote>X and XII are objectively good games</quote> You mean objectively bad.</quote> If you don't like them fine, but they're not bad games by any stretch of the imagination.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VTBM 11/15/17 12:36:33 PM #45:	Yes --- http://darkvisionsofterror.bandcamp.com/ http://i.imgur.com/e7sCCSb.png http://i.imgtc.com/AlmbdTG49T.jpg <cite>VTBM posted [p:890440362] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>Yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilove4chan 11/15/17 12:36:50 PM #46:	eston posted... I feel as though it's kind of lost its identity over the past several games, and Square doesn't really know what to do with it Square-Enix* They ruined what Squaresoft built --- i actually don't love 4chan NYM - ETI in my heart <cite>Ilove4chan posted [p:890440379] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>I feel as though it's kind of lost its identity over the past several games, and Square doesn't really know what to do with it</quote> Square-Enix* They ruined what Squaresoft built</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilove4chan 11/15/17 12:38:25 PM #47:	DezCaughtIt posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... DezCaughtIt posted... X and XII are objectively good games You mean objectively bad. If you don't like them fine, but they're not bad games by any stretch of the imagination. FFXII has legitimate complaints especially because the story had an excellent foundation and was building in a good direction, but it completely fell off When I beat the final boss, I literally didn't even know I was at the final boss. I thought it was just the middle part of the story too since I was only in the low 50s in levels --- i actually don't love 4chan NYM - ETI in my heart <cite>Ilove4chan posted [p:890440474] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezCaughtIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezCaughtIt posted...</cite> <quote>X and XII are objectively good games</quote> You mean objectively bad.</quote> If you don't like them fine, but they're not bad games by any stretch of the imagination.</quote> FFXII has legitimate complaints especially because the story had an excellent foundation and was building in a good direction, but it completely fell off When I beat the final boss, I literally didn't even know I was at the final boss. I thought it was just the middle part of the story too since I was only in the low 50s in levels</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezCaughtIt 11/15/17 12:40:43 PM #48:	Ilove4chan posted... DezCaughtIt posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... DezCaughtIt posted... X and XII are objectively good games You mean objectively bad. If you don't like them fine, but they're not bad games by any stretch of the imagination. FFXII has legitimate complaints especially because the story had an excellent foundation and was building in a good direction, but it completely fell off When I beat the final boss, I literally didn't even know I was at the final boss. I thought it was just the middle part of the story too since I was only in the low 50s in levels I'm not saying it's perfect or anything. I have my issues with it too. --- *The user formally known as freakofnature30* ROCK FLAAAAG AND EAAAAAAAAAGLLLLLLLE <cite>DezCaughtIt posted [p:890440611] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilove4chan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezCaughtIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezCaughtIt posted...</cite> <quote>X and XII are objectively good games</quote> You mean objectively bad.</quote> If you don't like them fine, but they're not bad games by any stretch of the imagination.</quote> FFXII has legitimate complaints especially because the story had an excellent foundation and was building in a good direction, but it completely fell off When I beat the final boss, I literally didn't even know I was at the final boss. I thought it was just the middle part of the story too since I was only in the low 50s in levels</quote> I'm not saying it's perfect or anything. I have my issues with it too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilove4chan 11/15/17 12:42:43 PM #49:	Yeah. I mean I agree with you, I really enjoyed the shit out of the game. I was just pissed off about the story and characters I know they were on a meg ryan main character trend, but Vaan was so useless. --- i actually don't love 4chan NYM - ETI in my heart <cite>Ilove4chan posted [p:890440716] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote>Yeah. I mean I agree with you, I really enjoyed the shit out of the game. I was just pissed off about the story and characters I know they were on a meg ryan main character trend, but Vaan was so useless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prettyprincess 11/15/17 12:43:36 PM #50:	DezCaughtIt posted... they're not bad games by any stretch of the imagination right because it is more based in reality --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:890440769] in Is Final F... [t:75993606]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezCaughtIt posted...</cite> <quote>they're not bad games by any stretch of the imagination</quote> right because it is more based in reality</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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