Current Events > Look at this dogshit piece in the Washington Post

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I'm not saying they are. Why is it more likely that these girls are totally innocent buttercups that have done nothing wrong?

I think we're on the same page, here. I don't think anyone here condones harassment or sexual assault towards a woman(unless you're Doom_Art and a simple apology makes it A-OK).

Innocent until proven guilty. That's how I'm gonna roll.
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Caution998 posted...

Innocent until proven guilty. That's how I'm gonna roll.

Franken is the only one so far, that I know of, with actual evidence.

Caution998 posted...

Why is it more likely that these girls are totally innocent buttercups that have done nothing wrong?

why do you feel the need to constantly devalue these women with insults

i think it's more likely that these women are telling the truth considering donald trump has said "yeah i do that type of thing" multiple times

Caution998 posted...

BTW, for intents and purposes, Antifar, you're a Democrat.

I'm a socialist. I prefer the Democrats to the Republicans, given that choice, but I think Democrats are often just complete trash; see the first post for a blatant example.
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Caution998 posted...

I'm not saying they are. Why is it more likely that these girls are totally innocent buttercups that have done nothing wrong?

I think we're on the same page, here. I don't think anyone here condones harassment or sexual assault towards a woman(unless you're Doom_Art and a simple apology makes it A-OK).

Innocent until proven guilty. That's how I'm gonna roll.

I mean, you do, if they are billionaire republicans. Then their words don't mean anything and their just sluts and "(probably) are totally innocent buttercups that have done nothing wrong."

Innocent until proven guilty* more like it.
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Antifar posted...

Caution998 posted...

BTW, for intents and purposes, Antifar, you're a Democrat.

So why did I make this topic?

Because unlike the others, you actually criticize people who deserve to be criticized.
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Caution998 posted...

I'm not saying they are. Why is it more likely that these girls are totally innocent buttercups that have done nothing wrong?

Well I would suggest because there is essentially a library of research supported evidence that details why it is that women don't tend to come forward about sexual assault, and that the incidence of women lying about sexual assault is almost statistically insignificant *compared* to the incidence of women who are truthful about sexual assault, and because for a woman to come forward about a sexual assault she faces almost certain humiliation and threats with little to no chance of a successful conviction, meaning it's much more likely she's coming forward because she feels she has to and not because she wishes to gain out of it.

And finally, when 16 people all say the same thing about the same person, you might think it's possible that at least one of those women is telling the truth. And would you feel any differently about this whole thing if only one of those women was telling the truth? Would you then stay principled to your zero tolerance policy, if at least one of the 16 women who accused Trump of putting his hand up their skirt or pushing them against a wall and kissing them without consent was true?
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FrenchCrunch posted...

Caution998 posted...

Why is it more likely that these girls are totally innocent buttercups that have done nothing wrong?

why do you feel the need to constantly devalue these women with insults

i think it's more likely that these women are telling the truth considering donald trump has said "yeah i do that type of thing" multiple times

It's not more likely one way or another. I was simply suggesting the other side - which may or may not be true.

I apologize if that was misinterpreted.
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trump: "I grab women"
women: "trump grabbed me"
caution: "what could it mean? who is doing it??"
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Caution998 posted...

It's not more likely one way or another

i mean, it is

prettyprincess posted...

trump: "I grab women"
women: "trump grabbed me"
caution: "what could it mean? who is doing it??"

thinkingemoji

FrenchCrunch posted...

Caution998 posted...

It's not more likely one way or another

i mean, it is

Because you have the Anti-Trump sunglasses on? You have a clear bias against the man.

Would you let a Cowboys fan referee a game that the Cowboys are playing in?
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prettyprincess posted...

trump: "I grab women"
women: "trump grabbed me"
caution: "what could it mean? who is doing it??"

caution: "Also, she's a slut and making things up and wanted it because Donnie has lots of money.... but I want to be impartial, she may not be those things also."
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I caught my sister, who pretty much goes hard on every single sexual harassment allegation, saying that she thought it was "fishy" that this girl came out against Al Franken 10 years alter.

I shut her ass down immediately. We don't need that kind of hypocrisy today.
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Caution998 posted...

Because you have the Anti-Trump sunglasses on? You have a clear bias against the man.

trump said he just kisses women without even asking

numerous women come forward and say "he kissed me without even asking"

you: guys it's just as likely that these girls are gold-digging sluts

Caution998 posted...

Would you let a Cowboys fan referee a game that the Cowboys are playing in?

your inability to construct comparisons is absolutely astounding

I need more information.

Kisses, in many cultures, are a gesture of "hello!"
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Caution998 posted...

FrenchCrunch posted...

Caution998 posted...

It's not more likely one way or another

i mean, it is

Because you have the Anti-Trump sunglasses on? You have a clear bias against the man.

Would you let a Cowboys fan referee a game that the Cowboys are playing in?

I'd appreciate it if you addressed post #107, which gives an argument for why it's more likely that he has committed some kind of sexual assault or misconduct than it is that he hasn't.
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Caution998 posted...

I need more information.

Kisses, in many cultures, are a gesture of "hello!"

Is that how things are in the American culture?
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Trump molester
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Caution998 posted...

I need more information.

Kisses, in many cultures, are a gesture of "hello!"

It's like you're not even trying anymore.
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pinky0926 posted...

Caution998 posted...

I need more information.

Kisses, in many cultures, are a gesture of "hello!"

Is that how things are in the American culture?

why are you dignifying that post with a response his defensive walls have clearly gone completely up

hes done here

FrenchCrunch posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Caution998 posted...

I need more information.

Kisses, in many cultures, are a gesture of "hello!"

Is that how things are in the American culture?

why are you dignifying that post with a response his defensive walls have clearly gone completely up

hes done here

I'm just having fun now, as he is
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well you enjoy that

America is a melting pot - so, some families or people kiss others that they consider family.

My grandfather kissed my brother's girlfriends on the cheeks - as it was an old Italian tradition thing. My Dad does the same damn thing to my fiance.

I mean, what about Richard Dawson? People from the older generation do the kissing.
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Caution998 posted...

America is a melting pot - so, some families or people kiss others that they consider family.

My grandfather kissed my brother's girlfriends on the cheeks - as it was an old Italian tradition thing. My Dad does the same damn thing to my fiance.

I mean, what about Richard Dawson? People from the older generation do the kissing.

Jfc dude
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Caution998 posted...

My grandfather kissed my brother's girlfriends on the cheeks - as it was an old Italian tradition thing. My Dad does the same damn thing to my fiance.

So would you be okay with your grandfather sticking his tongue down your brothers girlfriends throat? Your dad doing that to your fiancee?
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*allegedly down their throat. That would be sexual assault, definitely.

My Dad has kissed her on the lips - he's from the older generation.
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The mental gymnastics of feminists is so utterly ridiculous at this point.

The tl;dr of this article literally reads like this, "It's OK for Democrats to commit sexual assault as long as they're in office and keeping Republicans at bay"

Such a fucking joke.
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Howl posted...

The mental gymnastics of feminists is so utterly ridiculous at this point.

The tl;dr of this article literally reads like this, "It's OK for Democrats to commit sexual assault as long as they're in office and keeping Republicans at bay"

Such a fucking joke.

How would you say this compares to defending Roy Moore by citing the age difference between Mary and Joseph, as Alabama State Auditor Jim Ziegler put it: "There is nothing to see here. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus."
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pinky0926 posted...

Howl posted...

The mental gymnastics of feminists is so utterly ridiculous at this point.

The tl;dr of this article literally reads like this, "It's OK for Democrats to commit sexual assault as long as they're in office and keeping Republicans at bay"

Such a fucking joke.

How would you say this compares to defending Roy Moore by citing the age difference between Mary and Joseph, as Alabama State Auditor Jim Ziegler put it: "There is nothing to see here. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus."

That's just what inevitably happens when political parties are treated like sports teams.
We're even getting rioting hooligans now when the "local" team loses.

Caution998 posted...

I never defended Roy Moore.

I defended Trump. ...Which is what I always do. Go look in the topic. I don't defend scumbags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_Ot0k4XJc
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For the record @Howl I agree that Al Franken's actions were unacceptable, but I'm just curious why you would consider this a specifically democrat or feminist position.
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Cauction continues to do the things that make people not like him all while wondering why people don't like him.

Be less of a hypocritical republican shill.
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Tmaster148 posted...

Cauction continues to do the things that make people not like him all while wondering why people don't like him.

Be less of a hypocritical republican shill.

You just hate all Republicans. That's what this is about. I'll never be liked for that fact alone.
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pinky0926 posted...

For the record @Howl I agree that Al Franken's actions were unacceptable, but I'm just curious why you would consider this a specifically democrat or feminist position.

Because she literally mentions that she's both a feminist and a Democrat in the article.
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Caution998 posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

Cauction continues to do the things that make people not like him all while wondering why people don't like him.

Be less of a hypocritical republican shill.

You just hate all Republicans. That's what this is about. I'll never be liked for that fact alone.

Whatever lets you feed your supreme victim complex, bro.
You and Agent Orange have that in common, at least.
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It's not a complex, when it's a reality ;)

<3
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Howl posted...

pinky0926 posted...

For the record @Howl I agree that Al Franken's actions were unacceptable, but I'm just curious why you would consider this a specifically democrat or feminist position.

Because she literally mentions that she's both a feminist and a Democrat in the article.

But this is not position generally held either by the democrats or feminists, and further this is a kind of argument that many on the right have used similarly. So I'm just asking what makes you prop this up as democrat/feminist logic...
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Caution998 posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

Cauction continues to do the things that make people not like him all while wondering why people don't like him.

Be less of a hypocritical republican shill.

You just hate all Republicans. That's what this is about. I'll never be liked for that fact alone.

If it helps your sleep at night. But just know you are not hated for being a Republican.
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Half the people on here consider the other side to be bigots or Islamaphobes or sexists...so....
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Caution998 posted...

It's not a complex, when it's a reality ;)

<3

Phantom_Nook posted...

Whatever lets you feed your supreme victim complex, bro.

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pinky0926 posted...

Howl posted...

pinky0926 posted...

For the record @Howl I agree that Al Franken's actions were unacceptable, but I'm just curious why you would consider this a specifically democrat or feminist position.

Because she literally mentions that she's both a feminist and a Democrat in the article.

But this is not position generally held either by the democrats or feminists, and further this is a kind of argument that many on the right have used similarly. So I'm just asking what makes you prop this up as democrat/feminist logic...

I didn't say anything about Democrats or feminists having this specific opinion at all really.

My original post was more a comment about how feminists will try to use the craziest stretches of rational thought possible to defend their own ideology.

Since Franken is a Democrat who committed sexual assault which is currently being demonized to the extreme degree, she had to stretch her own rationale for what is defensible action for a liberal to an almost parody level because she can't keep her own crazy ideology together.

It's like she had to pick, which is the greater enemy here, a straight white male who has 100% proven to have committed sexual assault, or REPUBLICANS!!!

She checked Republicans off on that choice and had to come up with the most insane defense of that choice ever.
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Caution998 posted...

Half the people on here consider the other side to be bigots or Islamaphobes or sexists...so....

Because if you blame other people for you being an awful person that will totally make you more likeable.
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I thought Caution was just a run of the mill redhat cultist but jfc he really is a garbage heap of a person.
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I'm a garbage heap of a person because of what? Care to expand on that thought?
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Caution998 posted...

I'm a garbage heap of a person because of what? Care to expand on that thought?

Probably has to do with your constant whining and victim complex how everyone picks on you for your "beliefs" while you do the same thing almost daily here to the other side.

Something like that
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Caution998 posted...

I'm a garbage heap of a person because of what? Care to expand on that thought?

Caution998 posted...

Listen, I'm not gonna pretend like I know all the facts in this case. What we don't know is if he was invited in there or not. Nothing is out of question when it comes to an eccentric billionaire and slutty women.

Or, you know, calling potential sexual assault victims sluts simply because they're against "your side". That kind of makes you a garbage heap.
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Nothing about the rest of my posts where I upheld respect for all women?

Just nitpicking part of an argument that is taken out of context as I go mono vs the entire board ?

I meant to put potential slutty women. Sorry.

If you read the rest of my posts, you'll see the truth and message I'm sending.

How about we go after Doom Art and his sickening post in the early part of this topic? That's just sad. But he's on your side so you can't view the bull he spewed.
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Heineken14 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Doom_Art posted...

I mean I don't think he should resign either, if only for the reason that this is currently the only case, his apology was sufficient, and the victim accepted his apology.

IIRC there was a piece the other day on how Bannon/Breitbart is going to weaponize the "Believe Women" movement against politicians they don't like. Making the bit about how purple/red state Dems may resign and have their replacement picked by Republicans maybe not entirely unreasonable.

But I don't that is what this woman is talking about tbh

Literally saying an apology makes sexual assault okay.

Caution998 posted...

Listen, these incidents need to be properly investigated.

That being said, Trump is a literal billionaire. People are going to be accusing him of stuff simply due to the wealth of his empire. You have to consider the fact that these people could be lying.

Assuming you're going to condemn this as well now right? I mean, after all he's saying being rich makes sexual assault ok.

Of course I do. He's being an asshole Trump shill.

The only thing I would say that is remotely defensive of Trump is that the story Dems pushed the hardest on the campaign trail was pretty much destroyed immediately, when it came out that she asked Trump for a job.
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