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FrankIin
11/17/17 2:55:11 PM
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I recently got fired from my job for doing too much work in a short amount of time, and having time to text my girlfriend, who I'm moving to Seattle to be with.

So I apply and it goes through okay. But then I get a response from them saying I have to pass a "Savings and Resources Test" and had to send them a FUCK load of paperwork.

So I do, and I get a call from them, saying my benefits were denied. What a load of fucking horse shit.

"What if I have savings?

Most households applying for SNAP no longer have to pass a savings/resource test in order to get SNAP benefits. This means that the household's assets (stocks, savings and retirement accounts, etc.) are not considered when determining eligibility."

- ny.gov

Can someone explain to me how I was singled out of EVERYONE?

The primary eligibility determination for food stamps is this, again from NY's gov site:

If your gross income, based on family size, is at or below the amounts in the following charts, you may be eligible for SNAP benefits. But, the only way to determine if your household is eligible for SNAP benefits is to apply


So obviously if I'm unemployed, I have no current income. So why am I getting discriminated against for having savings and assets?
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JE19426
11/17/17 2:56:54 PM
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Why aren't getting unemployment?
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ThirdGender
11/17/17 2:57:34 PM
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FrankIin posted...
I recently got fired from my job for doing too much work in a short amount of time, and having time to text my girlfriend, who I'm moving to Seattle to be with.

So I apply and it goes through okay. But then I get a response from them saying I have to pass a "Savings and Resources Test" and had to send them a FUCK load of paperwork.

So I do, and I get a call from them, saying my benefits were denied. What a load of fucking horse shit.

"What if I have savings?

Most households applying for SNAP no longer have to pass a savings/resource test in order to get SNAP benefits. This means that the household's assets (stocks, savings and retirement accounts, etc.) are not considered when determining eligibility."

- ny.gov

Can someone explain to me how I was singled out of EVERYONE?

The primary eligibility determination for food stamps is this, again from NY's gov site:

If your gross income, based on family size, is at or below the amounts in the following charts, you may be eligible for SNAP benefits. But, the only way to determine if your household is eligible for SNAP benefits is to apply


So obviously if I'm unemployed, I have no current income. So why am I getting discriminated against for having savings and assets?


Because you're white/brown/black. Delete as appropriate.
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legend253
11/17/17 2:57:35 PM
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Why are you getting discriminated against for requesting what is essentially financial aid when you have money, you just wont use it?

Because you have money, you just wont use it.
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Giant_Aspirin
11/17/17 3:00:07 PM
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FrankIin posted...

If your gross income, based on family size, is at or below the amounts in the following charts, you may be eligible for SNAP benefits.


Hoth, do you understand what the word in bold means?

also, can you post a screenshot of your request and the subsequent denial letter? im curious to read their reasoning.

FrankIin posted...
I recently got fired from my job for doing too much work in a short amount of time,


nobody believes this. literally nobody.

FrankIin posted...
and having time to text my girlfriend,


ah, that sounds more like it.

FrankIin posted...
who I'm moving to Seattle to be with.


tee hee hee
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Blue_Inigo
11/17/17 3:00:39 PM
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Youre fucking pathetic, Hoth.
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SK8T3R215
11/17/17 3:02:46 PM
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How long ago did you apply for them?
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itachi15243
11/17/17 3:17:31 PM
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That's only up to 180,000 dollars IRC. That's why it says most.

And by savings they don't mean all the money you have saved in the bank overall. Your checking account, and certain other types of accounts aren't considered as savings.

And finally, if you still receive anything from your former job (severance pay, back pay passive income from things like shares, etc) it still counts as gross pay.

Assuming it's none of those it could have to do with your gf's finances.
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COVxy
11/17/17 3:21:01 PM
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Back when I was on SNAP in NY, it was necessary to report all assets.
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SomeLikeItHoth
11/17/17 4:12:37 PM
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legend253 posted...
Because you have money, you just won?t use it.

It's called savings. Why should he spend his own money that he saved up?
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JE19426
11/17/17 4:18:07 PM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
It's called savings. Why should he spend his own money that he saved up?


Because that's the point of saving money up.
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Giant_Aspirin
11/17/17 4:19:13 PM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
legend253 posted...
Because you have money, you just won?t use it.

It's called savings. Why should he spend his own money that he saved up?


you're a Trump supporter and you're literally encouraging welfare.

lolololololololololololololollololooll
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SomeLikeItHoth
11/17/17 4:19:44 PM
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JE19426 posted...
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
It's called savings. Why should he spend his own money that he saved up?


Because that's the point of saving money up.

... The point of saving up hundreds of thousands of dollars is to spend it?
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JE19426
11/17/17 4:20:13 PM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
... The point of saving up hundreds of thousands of dollars is to spend it?


Yes.
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Jetblackmoon
11/17/17 4:21:13 PM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
legend253 posted...
Because you have money, you just won?t use it.

It's called savings. Why should he spend his own money that he saved up?

Imagine actually posting this.
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SK8T3R215
11/17/17 4:23:00 PM
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Why shouldn't he apply for food stamps he has no income so he should be approved for it.
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FrankIin
11/17/17 4:24:10 PM
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SK8T3R215 posted...
Why shouldn't he apply for food stamps he has no income so he should be approved for it.


Finally, a real poster.

Also I applied for unemployment, but I got discriminated against for wearing nice clothes and having an iPhone X.
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ThirdGender
11/17/17 4:24:47 PM
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Jetblackmoon posted...
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
legend253 posted...
Because you have money, you just won?t use it.

It's called savings. Why should he spend his own money that he saved up?

Imagine actually posting this.


I'm hoping it was a joke.
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Giant_Aspirin
11/17/17 4:25:54 PM
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so, Hoth, aren't you an adamant Trump supporter and a lifelong Republican? how can you defend being a welfare maggot that leaches off the money of hardworking Americans who actually contribute?

ThirdGender posted...
Jetblackmoon posted...
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
legend253 posted...
Because you have money, you just won?t use it.

It's called savings. Why should he spend his own money that he saved up?

Imagine actually posting this.


I'm hoping it was a joke.


Nothing Hoth posts is serious. Everything he posts on here is designed to upset or annoy other people.
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JE19426
11/17/17 4:43:47 PM
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FrankIin posted...
Also I applied for unemployment, but I got discriminated against for wearing nice clothes and having an iPhone X.


How so?
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FrankIin
11/17/17 4:47:35 PM
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JE19426 posted...
FrankIin posted...
Also I applied for unemployment, but I got discriminated against for wearing nice clothes and having an iPhone X.


How so?


The lady said "you don't look like you need unemployment", and I was subsequently denied.
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JE19426
11/17/17 4:49:55 PM
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FrankIin posted...
The lady said "you don't look like you need unemployment", and I was subsequently denied.


Why were you denied?
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gp1829
11/17/17 4:54:10 PM
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Why is anyone even responding you know the entire thing is made up so why bother.
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FrankIin
11/17/17 4:54:28 PM
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JE19426 posted...
FrankIin posted...
The lady said "you don't look like you need unemployment", and I was subsequently denied.


Why were you denied?


I don't know. I think the lady was jealous of my phone, mostly.
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FrankIin
11/17/17 4:55:14 PM
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gp1829 posted...
Why is anyone even responding you know the entire thing is made up so why bother.


Why would I lie about needing foodstamps? Lying just to give ammo to the trolls isn't worth it. But posting about a serious personal situation and ignoring those trolls is.
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gp1829
11/17/17 4:57:59 PM
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FrankIin posted...
gp1829 posted...
Why is anyone even responding you know the entire thing is made up so why bother.


Why would I lie about needing foodstamps? Lying just to give ammo to the trolls isn't worth it. But posting about a serious personal situation and ignoring those trolls is.


Because if you have hundreds of thousands saved like your "cousin" claimed you don't need them.
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GreatEvilEmpire
11/17/17 4:59:47 PM
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Smells like a troll. This story doesn't make any sense.
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cerealbox760
11/17/17 5:02:02 PM
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how much savings do you have?
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FrankIin
11/17/17 5:06:05 PM
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gp1829 posted...
FrankIin posted...
gp1829 posted...
Why is anyone even responding you know the entire thing is made up so why bother.


Why would I lie about needing foodstamps? Lying just to give ammo to the trolls isn't worth it. But posting about a serious personal situation and ignoring those trolls is.


Because if you have hundreds of thousands saved like your "cousin" claimed you don't need them.


It's not a matter of needing them.

NY's site says "if your income is below this, based on your household, you may be eligible".

So my household is me - 1 -. My income is 0. 0 is less than their cap for a household of 1 person. Therefore I am eligible. If a government is offering you money for a situation you're in, why not take it regardless of whether or not you need it?

cerealbox760 posted...
how much savings do you have?


I wouldn't disclose that on CE, but basically a nice amount.
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JE19426
11/17/17 5:17:46 PM
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FrankIin posted...
I don't know.


What? You should of got an explantion on why you were denied, in your Notice of Determination.
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MC_BatCommander
11/17/17 5:18:47 PM
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But you're really wealthy Franklin, why get food stamps? You don't need to bother with poor people things.
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Solar_Crimson
11/17/17 5:26:06 PM
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FrankIin
11/17/17 5:34:32 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
But you're really wealthy Franklin, why get food stamps? You don't need to bother with poor people things.


I'll explained this like 6 times.

Solar_Crimson posted...
And I thought Trump-supporters didn't believe in welfare.


If someone (the U.S. government in this case) is going to let you exploit them, you may as well. Plus, the more people that sign up for welfare, the faster it'll get thrown out of the budget. It's already such a massive expense to the taxpayers.
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JE19426
11/17/17 5:35:21 PM
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FrankIin posted...
If someone (the U.S. government in this case) is going to let you exploit them, you may as well.


Well they aren't so why are you complaining?
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FrankIin
11/17/17 5:37:52 PM
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JE19426 posted...
FrankIin posted...
If someone (the U.S. government in this case) is going to let you exploit them, you may as well.


Well they aren't so why are you complaining?


The U.S. government lets millions of people waste billions of taxpayer dollars. The only reason I'm not able to do so right now (though I would use food stamps legally - no trading for alcohol and tobacco) is because of wealth discrimination.
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JE19426
11/17/17 5:41:35 PM
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FrankIin posted...
The U.S. government lets millions of people waste billions of taxpayer dollars. The only reason I'm not able to do so right now (though I would use food stamps legally - no trading for alcohol and tobacco) is because of wealth discrimination.


Is that what they said about your unemployment as well?
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Tmaster148
11/17/17 5:42:38 PM
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Even NY doesn't want to spend money to feed a basement dweller.
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FrankIin
11/17/17 5:43:54 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Even NY doesn't want to spend money to feed a basement dweller.


This guy literally comes to my topic to get triggered, and then complains when I trigger him.
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FrankIin
11/17/17 5:45:13 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Even NY doesn't want to spend money to feed a basement dweller.


My basement is a man cave. I generally dwell in my in-home office with a computer that has Windows 10 Pro, file cabinets, and a special telephone.
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Tmaster148
11/17/17 5:45:16 PM
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I'm not triggered. Although it's nice you care enough to remember me.
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FrankIin
11/17/17 5:46:03 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
I'm not triggered. Although it's nice you care enough to remember me.


After you had the meltdown of the century in my last topic, how could I not? I walked away from that topic thinking "man, that Tmaster148 guy seems to get upset easy. I should try to be nice to him".
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Tmaster148
11/17/17 5:47:39 PM
#42:


I'm not upset. Also I never had a meltdown but I guess all you can do is live in a fantasy world.

I like how I have explained to you that this is simply entertaining and yet you can't ever grasp that concept.
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Crazyman93
11/17/17 5:55:29 PM
#43:


JE19426 posted...
Why aren't getting unemployment?

Because it's Hothlin and none of this is real.

Didn't you make this topic already Hothlin? There's basically no fun in in watching you rage over the same thing twice.
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Zeeak4444
11/17/17 5:59:32 PM
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Crazyman93 posted...
JE19426 posted...
Why aren't getting unemployment?

Because it's Hothlin and none of this is real.

Didn't you make this topic already Hothlin? There's basically no fun in in watching you rage over the same thing twice.


First was unemployment. Agreed though, he should step up his game.
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electricbugs2
11/17/17 6:01:04 PM
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Maybe you should sell the "Ashton" Martin Frankie Muniz. That certainly can't be helping you look like you need Foodstamps.
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FrankIin
11/17/17 6:05:22 PM
#46:


Someone's in one of their shitty moods again, so they're trying to troll my topic.

Crazyman93 posted...
JE19426 posted...
Why aren't getting unemployment?

Because it's Hothlin and none of this is real.

Didn't you make this topic already Hothlin? There's basically no fun in in watching you rage over the same thing twice.


How was lunch today, friend?
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Eevee-Trainer
11/17/17 6:06:15 PM
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Jetblackmoon posted...
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
legend253 posted...
Because you have money, you just won?t use it.

It's called savings. Why should he spend his own money that he saved up?

Imagine actually posting this.

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Bio1590
11/17/17 6:06:36 PM
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Mods let the other topic get to almost 300 posts, will this one get locked quicker?
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electricbugs2
11/17/17 6:07:15 PM
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FrankIin posted...
Someone's in one of their shitty moods again, so they're trying to troll my topic.

lol same tired defense. Get new material Frankie Crosetti.
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FrankIin
11/17/17 6:08:13 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
FrankIin posted...
Someone's in one of their shitty moods again, so they're trying to troll my topic.

lol same tired defense. Get new material Frankie Crosetti.


I take nothing you say seriously because you admitted to the nature of your posts.
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