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Kimbos_Egg 11/21/17 7:49:00 PM #1: |
http://www.pcgamer.com/belgium-says-loot-boxes-are-gambling-wants-them-banned-in-europe/
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Jen0125 11/21/17 7:53:25 PM #2: |
same thing i said in the lootbox topic going on: literally all these companies have to do to stop this is to define what exactly is in each lootbox you're purchasing instead of making it random. that would solve their problems entirely.
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Lokarin 11/21/17 7:54:40 PM #3: |
Jen0125 posted...
same thing i said in the lootbox topic going on: literally all these companies have to do to stop this is to define what exactly is in each lootbox you're purchasing instead of making it random. that would solve their problems entirely. In Canada, the WCLC requires that lotteries state their odds and payouts - soooo... something something lootbox? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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helIy 11/21/17 7:54:46 PM #4: |
not only that, but they also need to give you the ratios for potential drops. i think china already mandates that
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Lightning Bolt 11/21/17 7:55:59 PM #5: |
Jen0125 posted...
same thing i said in the lootbox topic going on: literally all these companies have to do to stop this is to define what exactly is in each lootbox you're purchasing instead of making it random. that would solve their problems entirely. If it's not random it doesn't hit on the really profitable dopamine receptors. --- One day dude, I'm just gonna get off the bus, and I'm gonna run in the woods and never come back, and when I come back I'm gonna be the knife master! -The Rev ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 11/21/17 7:57:23 PM #6: |
Lightning Bolt posted...
If it's not random it doesn't hit on the really profitable dopamine receptors. sucks? --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 11/21/17 7:57:49 PM #7: |
Well, it is gambling.
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Lokarin 11/21/17 7:58:06 PM #8: |
Oh cool, my Counterstrike knife is up to $200!
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Snuggletoof 11/21/17 7:58:58 PM #9: |
Jen0125 posted...
same thing i said in the lootbox topic going on: literally all these companies have to do to stop this is to define what exactly is in each lootbox you're purchasing instead of making it random. that would solve their problems entirely. So, essentially "no more lootboxes". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 11/21/17 7:59:34 PM #10: |
Snuggletoof posted...
So, essentially "no more lootboxes". i mean does the name "lootbox" only mean it has to be random? it just means you're purchasing a "box" with "loot" in it. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Snuggletoof 11/21/17 8:00:13 PM #11: |
Jen0125 posted...
Snuggletoof posted...So, essentially "no more lootboxes". Yes. Otherwise, your just purchasing the item itself. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 11/21/17 8:00:47 PM #12: |
i'm not really interested in arguing over titles.
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Snuggletoof 11/21/17 8:01:08 PM #13: |
ok
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Snuggletoof 11/21/17 8:02:53 PM #14: |
I'm just curious, would this mean in-game lootboxes with randomized loot that aren't purchased with real world money be considered gambling?
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T0ffee 11/21/17 8:03:13 PM #15: |
Snuggletoof posted...
Jen0125 posted...Snuggletoof posted...So, essentially "no more lootboxes". Yup and that already has a name. Microtransactions. --- "Splashing water on a pervert is like putting lasers on a shark" - Shiho Shishido | FC: 2707-2635-3369 | IGN: Toffee (Moon) / Caramel (Sun) | ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 11/21/17 8:04:10 PM #16: |
T0ffee posted...
Snuggletoof posted...Jen0125 posted...Snuggletoof posted...So, essentially "no more lootboxes". a lootbox is still a microtransaction regardless of whether it's randomized or not --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Snuggletoof 11/21/17 8:04:13 PM #17: |
T0ffee posted...
Snuggletoof posted...Jen0125 posted...Snuggletoof posted...So, essentially "no more lootboxes". Mmhmm, there it is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JOExHIGASHI 11/21/17 8:05:43 PM #18: |
Does that make loot crate gambling or those toy vending machines in grocery stores?
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Lokarin 11/21/17 8:06:45 PM #19: |
JOExHIGASHI posted...
Does that make loot crate gambling or those toy vending machines in grocery stores? loot crate is not because it's always the same, but those toy vendors certainly are. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Snuggletoof 11/21/17 8:08:59 PM #20: |
Also, does this mean trading card booster packs should be considered gambling as well? It's pretty much exactly the same concept.
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Lokarin 11/21/17 8:09:30 PM #21: |
Snuggletoof posted...
Also, does this mean trading card booster packs should be considered gambling as well? It's pretty much exactly the same concept. Yes, that is also gambling --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 11/21/17 8:09:31 PM #22: |
Snuggletoof posted...
T0ffee posted...Snuggletoof posted...Jen0125 posted...Snuggletoof posted...So, essentially "no more lootboxes". Jen0125 posted... a lootbox is still a microtransaction regardless of whether it's randomized or not --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Snuggletoof 11/21/17 8:10:21 PM #23: |
Lokarin posted...
Snuggletoof posted...Also, does this mean trading card booster packs should be considered gambling as well? It's pretty much exactly the same concept. But still legal for children. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 11/21/17 8:11:35 PM #24: |
Snuggletoof posted...
Lokarin posted...Snuggletoof posted...Also, does this mean trading card booster packs should be considered gambling as well? It's pretty much exactly the same concept. not for long apparently with the way this shits going --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JOExHIGASHI 11/21/17 8:12:35 PM #25: |
Lokarin posted...
Snuggletoof posted...Also, does this mean trading card booster packs should be considered gambling as well? It's pretty much exactly the same concept. so that includes blind bags too then --- Puzzle and Dragons: 338 705 421 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Snuggletoof 11/21/17 8:13:52 PM #26: |
Jen0125 posted...
Snuggletoof posted...Lokarin posted...Snuggletoof posted...Also, does this mean trading card booster packs should be considered gambling as well? It's pretty much exactly the same concept. Yup, you can thank the brave warriors that fought the good fight against EA. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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T0ffee 11/21/17 8:15:57 PM #27: |
Jen0125 posted...
a lootbox is still a microtransaction regardless of whether it's randomized or not Technically, it is. But I think the term over time has grown specifically to refer the random loot gacha style rewards system that its become today. Sorta like "a thumb is a finger, but not all fingers are thumbs" kinda thing. --- "Splashing water on a pervert is like putting lasers on a shark" - Shiho Shishido | FC: 2707-2635-3369 | IGN: Toffee (Moon) / Caramel (Sun) | ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SushiSquid 11/21/17 8:23:11 PM #28: |
Belgium is correct. Loot boxes are very literally forms of gambling.
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Kyuubi4269 11/21/17 8:28:42 PM #29: |
Surely there's a difference between getting a truely random selection where you don't know what you're going to get versus a random selection which you know includes something you want.
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Jen0125 11/21/17 8:32:17 PM #30: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Surely there's a difference between getting a truely random selection where you don't know what you're going to get versus a random selection which you know includes something you want. They could make boxes with a guaranteed item and some other random ones even. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 11/21/17 9:50:35 PM #31: |
Jen0125 posted...
T0ffee posted...Snuggletoof posted...Jen0125 posted...Snuggletoof posted...So, essentially "no more lootboxes". The randomization is what makes it a lootbox, though. Lootboxes are a subset of microtransaction characterized by having random contents. Without randomness, they aren't lootboxes. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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