Current Events > Net neutrality is typical fear mongering based on fiction

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KazumaKiryu 11/22/17 1:53:02 PM #1:	They tell you that ISPs will throttle Netflix and you won't be able to watch your shows (oh the horror!) even though this would never actually happen in a free market. If an ISP is doing bad things like this, customers will move to another provider. That's how it works. In reality, they forced this on us because it makes the internet a government commodity! That's why they are so desperate for you all to support it and why they're now telling you it's the end of the world that the Republicans want to end it. This is about pulling back government overreach and keeping them from running every aspect of our lives. It's a GOOD thing. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:890873492] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>They tell you that ISPs will throttle Netflix and you won't be able to watch your shows (oh the horror!) even though this would never actually happen in a free market. If an ISP is doing bad things like this, customers will move to another provider. That's how it works. In reality, they forced this on us because it makes the internet a government commodity! That's why they are so desperate for you all to support it and why they're now telling you it's the end of the world that the Republicans want to end it. This is about pulling back government overreach and keeping them from running every aspect of our lives. It's a GOOD thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcolm_McGuffi 11/22/17 1:54:03 PM #2:	How is the next Netflix going to be able compete when they're a start up and they won't be able to afford the high bandwidth fees? <cite>Malcolm_McGuffi posted [p:890873559] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>How is the next Netflix going to be able compete when they're a start up and they won't be able to afford the high bandwidth fees?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 11/22/17 1:54:48 PM #3:	The problem here is that the US internet service industry is far removed from anything that would be considered a free market. ISPs are regional monopolies or duopolies in many areas, so there are lots of situations where customers don't actually have much of a choice of internet service providers. Back in 2014, Netflix ended up paying Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T to stop throttling their traffic. They ended up passing the cost of that onto their customers by raising the monthly fee. --- http://i.imgur.com/ByKGlJb.gif http://i.imgur.com/nZdaA8D.gif http://i.imgur.com/VBLBILg.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:890873603] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>The problem here is that the US internet service industry is far removed from anything that would be considered a free market. ISPs are regional monopolies or duopolies in many areas, so there are lots of situations where customers don't actually have much of a choice of internet service providers. Back in 2014, Netflix ended up paying Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T to stop throttling their traffic. They ended up passing the cost of that onto their customers by raising the monthly fee.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 11/22/17 1:55:25 PM #4:	KazumaKiryu posted... customers will move to another provider. That's how it works. I have two options Company A with good internet and Company B with shitty internet, if both decide to charge extra for Netflix where do I go? --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom http://i.imgur.com/9gYddqW.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:890873643] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote> customers will move to another provider. That's how it works.</quote> I have two options Company A with good internet and Company B with shitty internet, if both decide to charge extra for Netflix where do I go?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBiggerWiggle 11/22/17 1:55:48 PM #5:	Man my ignore list has grown faster the last 48 hours than any other time on gamefaqs. Any troll/idiot who opposes net neutrality goes straight to the ignore list. --- I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted [p:890873667] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>Man my ignore list has grown faster the last 48 hours than any other time on gamefaqs. Any troll/idiot who opposes net neutrality goes straight to the ignore list.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 11/22/17 1:55:51 PM #6:	What other provider? Do you even live in America? There literally is no other provider, even in Major cities you are lucky if you have 2 options, both of which are shit. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:890873668] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>What other provider? Do you even live in America? There literally is no other provider, even in Major cities you are lucky if you have 2 options, both of which are shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 11/22/17 1:55:53 PM #7:	Slurp slurp slurp --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:890873674] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>Slurp slurp slurp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Looked gf 11/22/17 1:56:00 PM #8:	Oh boy there's just so many isps to choose from! --- http://i.imgur.com/otLaOxa.gifv <cite>Looked gf posted [p:890873682] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>Oh boy there's just so many isps to choose from!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 11/22/17 1:56:32 PM #9:	Not to mention the fact that ISPs often lock customers into contracts, so it's expensive for those people to actually move to another provider even if they did have a choice. --- http://i.imgur.com/ByKGlJb.gif http://i.imgur.com/nZdaA8D.gif http://i.imgur.com/VBLBILg.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:890873720] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>Not to mention the fact that ISPs often lock customers into contracts, so it's expensive for those people to actually move to another provider even if they did have a choice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 11/22/17 1:56:55 PM #10:	KazumaKiryu posted... They tell you that ISPs will throttle Netflix and you won't be able to watch your shows (oh the horror!) even though this would never actually happen in a free market. If an ISP is doing bad things like this, customers will move to another provider. You are right, it would never happen in a free market. Unfortunately ISPs don't operate in a free market, they operate in a bunch of regionals monopolies. If you want to change provider odds are you can't. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:890873738] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>They tell you that ISPs will throttle Netflix and you won't be able to watch your shows (oh the horror!) even though this would never actually happen in a free market. If an ISP is doing bad things like this, customers will move to another provider.</quote> You are right, it would never happen in a free market. Unfortunately ISPs don't operate in a free market, they operate in a bunch of regionals monopolies. If you want to change provider odds are you can't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rexdragon125 11/22/17 1:58:42 PM #11:	People against Net Neutrality must not even know what it is. Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers and governments regulating most of the Internet must treat all data on the Internet the same, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of communication. How is that government overreach? Also keep posting that Netflix graphic, Cable, you're doing god's work. It seems to make the net neutrality critics vanish. <cite>Rexdragon125 posted [p:890873852] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>People against Net Neutrality must not even know what it is. Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers and governments regulating most of the Internet must treat all data on the Internet the same, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of communication. How is that government overreach? Also keep posting that Netflix graphic, Cable, you're doing god's work. It seems to make the net neutrality critics vanish.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unquestionable 11/22/17 2:02:55 PM #12:	The only supporters of rejecting it are those who are stand to personally profit off such a deal or those who refuse to look at all the potential downsides because "hey free market" when in reality the cable and ISP providers have made enough shady deals to split up territory that many customers don't have a choice. --- Immanentize the eschaton <cite>Unquestionable posted [p:890874067] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>The only supporters of rejecting it are those who are stand to personally profit off such a deal or those who refuse to look at all the potential downsides because "hey free market" when in reality the cable and ISP providers have made enough shady deals to split up territory that many customers don't have a choice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 11/22/17 2:03:01 PM #13:	TheBiggerWiggle posted... Man my ignore list has grown faster the last 48 hours than any other time on gamefaqs. Any troll/idiot who opposes net neutrality goes straight to the ignore list. Oh, aren't you a good little government puppet! <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:890874069] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>Man my ignore list has grown faster the last 48 hours than any other time on gamefaqs. Any troll/idiot who opposes net neutrality goes straight to the ignore list.</quote> Oh, aren't you a good little government puppet!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Timohtep 11/22/17 2:04:18 PM #14:	KazumaKiryu posted... TheBiggerWiggle posted... Man my ignore list has grown faster the last 48 hours than any other time on gamefaqs. Any troll/idiot who opposes net neutrality goes straight to the ignore list. Oh, aren't you a good little government puppet! I think you have this backwards --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Timohtep posted [p:890874128] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote> Man my ignore list has grown faster the last 48 hours than any other time on gamefaqs. Any troll/idiot who opposes net neutrality goes straight to the ignore list.</quote> Oh, aren't you a good little government puppet!</quote> I think you have this backwards</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mezcla 11/22/17 2:04:56 PM #15:	KazumaKiryu posted... If an ISP is doing bad things like this, customers will move to another provider. cool. let's look at my options in my area i got comcast.. and uh... thats it. awesome. --- Sig <cite>Mezcla posted [p:890874169] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>If an ISP is doing bad things like this, customers will move to another provider.</quote> cool. let's look at my options in my area i got comcast.. and uh... thats it. awesome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 11/22/17 2:09:21 PM #16:	By ending net neutrality you allow outside entities to regulate the internet economy. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:890874421] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>By ending net neutrality you allow outside entities to regulate the internet economy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Marmitecashews 11/22/17 2:15:42 PM #17:	I question TC's intelligence. --- Caution: A Boring British Centrist has arrived. <cite>Marmitecashews posted [p:890874770] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>I question TC's intelligence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
F1areaGaman 11/22/17 2:17:03 PM #18:	TC is paid by Comcast. Keep the internet free. --- 3DS FC: 4656-7003-5457 <cite>F1areaGaman posted [p:890874846] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>TC is paid by Comcast. Keep the internet free.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 11/22/17 2:17:10 PM #19:	Mezcla posted... KazumaKiryu posted... If an ISP is doing bad things like this, customers will move to another provider. cool. let's look at my options in my area i got comcast.. and uh... thats it. awesome. That isn't true though. They have a monopoly on cable, not internet. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:890874855] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mezcla posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>If an ISP is doing bad things like this, customers will move to another provider.</quote> cool. let's look at my options in my area i got comcast.. and uh... thats it. awesome.</quote> That isn't true though. They have a monopoly on cable, not internet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rexdragon125 11/22/17 2:17:42 PM #20:	TC is probably an alt anyways <cite>Rexdragon125 posted [p:890874883] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>TC is probably an alt anyways</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 11/22/17 2:18:07 PM #21:	Also I recommend yall look into Softbank, SFTBY... they're going to be buying up everything and will soon put Comcast out of business. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:890874903] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>Also I recommend yall look into Softbank, SFTBY... they're going to be buying up everything and will soon put Comcast out of business.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
F1areaGaman 11/22/17 2:18:10 PM #22:	uwnim posted... By ending net neutrality you allow outside entities to regulate the internet economy. The outside entities in question are the corporations that you pay to have internet. Giving them more power in how it's distributed is so **ing obviously dumb. TC what is wrong with you. --- 3DS FC: 4656-7003-5457 <cite>F1areaGaman posted [p:890874905] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote>By ending net neutrality you allow outside entities to regulate the internet economy.</quote> The outside entities in question are the corporations that you pay to have internet. Giving them more power in how it's distributed is so **ing obviously dumb. TC what is wrong with you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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luigi13579 11/22/17 2:22:09 PM #24:	The Title II regulations were brought in as a result of ISPs throttling users in the first place. The FCC tried to impose net neutrality without Title II, ISPs fought it, and the FCC responded with Title II regs. That also proves that ISPs are talking shit when they say they want a net neutrality solution without Title II, as they were the ones that fought it. <cite>luigi13579 posted [p:890875142] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>The Title II regulations were brought in as a result of ISPs throttling users in the first place. The FCC tried to impose net neutrality without Title II, ISPs fought it, and the FCC responded with Title II regs. That also proves that ISPs are talking shit when they say they want a net neutrality solution without Title II, as they were the ones that fought it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 11/22/17 2:23:12 PM #25:	KazumaKiryu posted... Mezcla posted... KazumaKiryu posted... If an ISP is doing bad things like this, customers will move to another provider. cool. let's look at my options in my area i got comcast.. and uh... thats it. awesome. That isn't true though. They have a monopoly on cable, not internet. You clearly don't live in America. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:890875191] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mezcla posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>If an ISP is doing bad things like this, customers will move to another provider.</quote> cool. let's look at my options in my area i got comcast.. and uh... thats it. awesome.</quote> That isn't true though. They have a monopoly on cable, not internet.</quote> You clearly don't live in America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 11/22/17 2:24:06 PM #26:	Yeah no, there is no free market for internet service. Most people only have access to one carrier. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:890875246] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>Yeah no, there is no free market for internet service. Most people only have access to one carrier.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 11/22/17 2:24:28 PM #27:	Lives in rural CA, Comcast is literally the only high-speed internet available --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:890875272] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>Lives in rural CA, Comcast is literally the only high-speed internet available</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 11/22/17 2:25:36 PM #28:	So is TC Madfoot --- http://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:890875343] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>So is TC Madfoot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 11/22/17 2:27:06 PM #29:	RebelElite791 posted... Lives in rural CA, Comcast is literally the only high-speed internet available Hell I live in very populated urban California and my only option is Time Warner --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:890875412] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Lives in rural CA, Comcast is literally the only high-speed internet available</quote> Hell I live in very populated urban California and my only option is Time Warner</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi13579 11/22/17 2:33:03 PM #30:	RebelElite791 posted... Lives in rural CA, Comcast is literally the only high-speed internet available "You can use dial-up!" <cite>luigi13579 posted [p:890875761] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Lives in rural CA, Comcast is literally the only high-speed internet available</quote> "You can use dial-up!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 11/22/17 2:34:54 PM #31:	KazumaKiryu posted... customers will move to another provider. That's how it works. where do you get this idea? do you think a bunch of mom and pop internet providers are going to pop up? --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg <cite>metralo posted [p:890875854] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>customers will move to another provider. That's how it works.</quote> where do you get this idea? do you think a bunch of mom and pop internet providers are going to pop up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 11/22/17 2:36:52 PM #32:	metralo posted... KazumaKiryu posted... customers will move to another provider. That's how it works. where do you get this idea? do you think a bunch of mom and pop internet providers are going to pop up? Yes, they will. It's a free market. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:890875956] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>customers will move to another provider. That's how it works.</quote> where do you get this idea? do you think a bunch of mom and pop internet providers are going to pop up?</quote> Yes, they will. It's a free market.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 11/22/17 2:37:10 PM #33:	Please hurry up and just get suspended or something. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:890875973] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>Please hurry up and just get suspended or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 11/22/17 2:37:43 PM #34:	KazumaKiryu posted... even though this would never actually happen in a free market They literally have a monopoly in the vast majority of the country (geographically) --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:890876006] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>even though this would never actually happen in a free market</quote> They literally have a monopoly in the vast majority of the country (geographically)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KazumaKiryu 11/22/17 2:40:29 PM #36:	DarkChozoGhost posted... KazumaKiryu posted... even though this would never actually happen in a free market They literally have a monopoly in the vast majority of the country (geographically) No, they literally don't. Any company can step in and compete, and they WILL if Comcast does these things. Right now the whole net neutrality bullshit is PROTECTING Comcast. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:890876177] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>even though this would never actually happen in a free market</quote> They literally have a monopoly in the vast majority of the country (geographically)</quote> No, they literally don't. Any company can step in and compete, and they WILL if Comcast does these things. Right now the whole net neutrality bullshit is PROTECTING Comcast.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rexdragon125 11/22/17 2:41:04 PM #37:	Not even Google could make much of a dent in this "free market" because they caught so much resistance from telecoms. These regional monopolies have existed for a decade, where are all these mom and pop ISPs? <cite>Rexdragon125 posted [p:890876222] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>Not even Google could make much of a dent in this "free market" because they caught so much resistance from telecoms. These regional monopolies have existed for a decade, where are all these mom and pop ISPs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 11/22/17 2:41:42 PM #38:	KazumaKiryu posted... DarkChozoGhost posted... KazumaKiryu posted... even though this would never actually happen in a free market They literally have a monopoly in the vast majority of the country (geographically) No, they literally don't. Any company can step in and compete, and they WILL if Comcast does these things. Right now the whole net neutrality bullshit is PROTECTING Comcast. Uh no. No company can step in. ISPs have the power to oust anyone and everyone who tries to compete with them. Even google failed. You think losing Net Neutrality is going to change that? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:890876269] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>even though this would never actually happen in a free market</quote> They literally have a monopoly in the vast majority of the country (geographically)</quote> No, they literally don't. Any company can step in and compete, and they WILL if Comcast does these things. Right now the whole net neutrality bullshit is PROTECTING Comcast.</quote> Uh no. No company can step in. ISPs have the power to oust anyone and everyone who tries to compete with them. Even google failed. You think losing Net Neutrality is going to change that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 11/22/17 2:44:39 PM #39:	KazumaKiryu posted... Any company can step in and compete, No, they can't. Comcast can destroy them with lawsuits and make it extremely difficult for people to even hear about them. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:890876430] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote> Any company can step in and compete,</quote> No, they can't. Comcast can destroy them with lawsuits and make it extremely difficult for people to even hear about them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 11/22/17 2:44:58 PM #40:	KazumaKiryu posted... DarkChozoGhost posted... KazumaKiryu posted... even though this would never actually happen in a free market They literally have a monopoly in the vast majority of the country (geographically) No, they literally don't. Any company can step in and compete, and they WILL if Comcast does these things. Right now the whole net neutrality bullshit is PROTECTING Comcast. If any company can step in and compete why are there so few providers? Why isn't Google Fiber available nationwide yet? --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:890876443] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>even though this would never actually happen in a free market</quote> They literally have a monopoly in the vast majority of the country (geographically)</quote> No, they literally don't. Any company can step in and compete, and they WILL if Comcast does these things. Right now the whole net neutrality bullshit is PROTECTING Comcast.</quote> If any company can step in and compete why are there so few providers? Why isn't Google Fiber available nationwide yet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi13579 11/22/17 2:45:52 PM #41:	KazumaKiryu posted... Yes, they will. It's a free market. It's not a free market when the established ISPs can block new entrants into the market (even more so with the removal of net neutrality). Even fucking Google had trouble with Google Fiber (as ISPs stopped them from gaining access to utility poles). If they had trouble, what kind of trouble must small startup ISPs have? <cite>luigi13579 posted [p:890876494] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, they will. It's a free market.</quote> It's not a free market when the established ISPs can block new entrants into the market (even more so with the removal of net neutrality). Even fucking Google had trouble with Google Fiber (as ISPs stopped them from gaining access to utility poles). If they had trouble, what kind of trouble must small startup ISPs have?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 11/22/17 2:47:36 PM #42:	Guys, stop feeding him --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:890876596] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>Guys, stop feeding him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 11/22/17 2:47:51 PM #43:	luigi13579 posted... KazumaKiryu posted... Yes, they will. It's a free market. It's not a free market when the established ISPs can block new entrants into the market (even more so with the removal of net neutrality). Even fucking Google had trouble with Google Fiber (as ISPs stopped them from gaining access to utility poles). If they had trouble, what kind of trouble must small startup ISPs have? Hmmm.... hmmmmm. You know, it may surprise you to know that it's more difficult for a Walmart to enter a new territory than it is for a mom and pop shop. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:890876610] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>luigi13579 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, they will. It's a free market.</quote> It's not a free market when the established ISPs can block new entrants into the market (even more so with the removal of net neutrality). Even fucking Google had trouble with Google Fiber (as ISPs stopped them from gaining access to utility poles). If they had trouble, what kind of trouble must small startup ISPs have?</quote> Hmmm.... hmmmmm. You know, it may surprise you to know that it's more difficult for a Walmart to enter a new territory than it is for a mom and pop shop.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 11/22/17 2:51:18 PM #44:	The thing with Netflix is that it uses a disproportionate amount of the network. It isn't the content, but the amount of it. Should someone who uses the majority of the network pay the same as someone who uses a tiny fraction of it? --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:890876862] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>The thing with Netflix is that it uses a disproportionate amount of the network. It isn't the content, but the amount of it. Should someone who uses the majority of the network pay the same as someone who uses a tiny fraction of it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 11/22/17 2:55:38 PM #45:	DragonGirlYuki posted... The thing with Netflix is that it uses a disproportionate amount of the network. It isn't the content, but the amount of it. Should someone who uses the majority of the network pay the same as someone who uses a tiny fraction of it? It's the responsibility of the ISP to upgrade and maintain their network to keep up with the amount of bandwidth they agree to provide. --- http://i.imgur.com/ByKGlJb.gif http://i.imgur.com/nZdaA8D.gif http://i.imgur.com/VBLBILg.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:890877110] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>The thing with Netflix is that it uses a disproportionate amount of the network. It isn't the content, but the amount of it. Should someone who uses the majority of the network pay the same as someone who uses a tiny fraction of it?</quote> It's the responsibility of the ISP to upgrade and maintain their network to keep up with the amount of bandwidth they agree to provide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JosefuJustice11 11/22/17 2:55:42 PM #46:	UnholyMudcrab posted... Guys, stop feeding him Yes, he's obviously enjoying the fuck out of every minute of resistance he's getting. --- I felt like I was watching a dream I'd never wake up from...hmp. Before I knew it, the dream was all over. <cite>JosefuJustice11 posted [p:890877113] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, stop feeding him</quote> Yes, he's obviously enjoying the fuck out of every minute of resistance he's getting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 11/22/17 2:56:25 PM #47:	KazumaKiryu posted... Yes, they will. It's a free market. The US internet service industry is not a free market. --- http://i.imgur.com/ByKGlJb.gif http://i.imgur.com/nZdaA8D.gif http://i.imgur.com/VBLBILg.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:890877149] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, they will. It's a free market. </quote> The US internet service industry is not a free market.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 11/22/17 2:58:00 PM #48:	KazumaKiryu posted... (oh the horror!) you're a dick for trying to tell people what they should or should not be okay with it how about "the isps won't make as much money as they could by squeezing the internet dry (oh the horror!)" fuck the isp's and fuck anyone who supports them in favor of everyone else --- Hey what's going on in this thread http://i.imgur.com/6fpKRW8.gif http://i.imgur.com/RNZi0gk.gif <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:890877237] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>(oh the horror!)</quote> you're a dick for trying to tell people what they should or should not be okay with it how about "the isps won't make as much money as they could by squeezing the internet dry (oh the horror!)" fuck the isp's and fuck anyone who supports them in favor of everyone else</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonGirlYuki 11/22/17 3:00:30 PM #50:	Upgrading a network isn't cheap and quick. Like building a new bridge it takes time and a high cost. Now if the red tape reduction makes it more palatable to increase supply then that is a good thing. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:890877388] in Net neutra... [t:76019821]...</cite> <quote>Upgrading a network isn't cheap and quick. Like building a new bridge it takes time and a high cost. Now if the red tape reduction makes it more palatable to increase supply then that is a good thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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