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A_Good_Boy 11/26/17 8:23:34 PM #51:	Mal_Fet posted... When we use the term "fake news" it is not only self-defeating, it oversimplifies a very complex problem. A year ago, this wasn't the case. The term actually meant something. It described a particular type of website that used the same design templates as professional news websites but its contents were entirely fabricated. But earlier this year, the term started to become meaningless. It became used to describe any piece of information that someone else didn't like. Increasingly the term has become weaponized by politicians who use it to undermine independent journalism in an effort to reach the public directly through their own channels. What's wrong about this quote? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:891109518] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>When we use the term "fake news" it is not only self-defeating, it oversimplifies a very complex problem. A year ago, this wasn't the case. The term actually meant something. It described a particular type of website that used the same design templates as professional news websites but its contents were entirely fabricated. But earlier this year, the term started to become meaningless. It became used to describe any piece of information that someone else didn't like. Increasingly the term has become weaponized by politicians who use it to undermine independent journalism in an effort to reach the public directly through their own channels.</quote> What's wrong about this quote?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 11/26/17 8:24:01 PM #52:	Mal_Fet posted... Axiom posted... Mal_Fet posted... nonsense coming out of other major news sources than you can CNN. Fox news literally pushed the Seth Rich conspiracy theory to the point that his family had to ask them to stop and are now getting sued over it Is that one example supposed to outnumber the amount of false news stories from CNN I've listed only in this topic? I said: Mal_Fet posted... I very seriously doubt you could find as many examples of outright nonsense coming out of other major news sources than you can CNN. https://www.ranker.com/list/journalists-who-lied/mel-judson Guess who makes up the majority on the list from a single organization. ~~Foxnews~~ <cite>Axiom posted [p:891109543] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>nonsense coming out of other major news sources than you can CNN.</quote> Fox news literally pushed the Seth Rich conspiracy theory to the point that his family had to ask them to stop and are now getting sued over it</quote> Is that one example supposed to outnumber the amount of false news stories from CNN I've listed only in this topic? I said: <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>I very seriously doubt you could find as many examples of outright nonsense coming out of other major news sources than you can CNN.</quote></quote> https://www.ranker.com/list/journalists-who-lied/mel-judson Guess who makes up the majority on the list from a single organization. Foxnews</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CEs_EFG 11/26/17 8:24:17 PM #53:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Alucard188 posted... A pre-emptive Mal_Fet CNN meltdown topic. you should be ashamed for shitposting this way, being that youre a mod and a public face for this site it is kinda pathetic tbh --- http://imgur.com/a/GCAyA http://i.imgur.com/8ImkFTt.png http://i.imgur.com/iVota.gif http://i.imgur.com/vIs64.gif <cite>CEs_EFG posted [p:891109556] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote>A pre-emptive Mal_Fet CNN meltdown topic.</quote> you should be ashamed for shitposting this way, being that youre a mod and a public face for this site</quote> it is kinda pathetic tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/26/17 8:25:16 PM #54:	Bio1590 posted... Notice he picks quantity instead of "quality". It's a deliberate, dishonest argument which is par for the course for Mal. Pushing the conspiracy that Russia hacked our election (therefore making it defunct) is many echelons worse than saying Obama may have been born in another country. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891109619] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>Notice he picks quantity instead of "quality". It's a deliberate, dishonest argument which is par for the course for Mal.</quote> Pushing the conspiracy that Russia hacked our election (therefore making it defunct) is many echelons worse than saying Obama may have been born in another country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/26/17 8:27:14 PM #55:	Russian interference with the election isn't a conspiracy theory and the very fact that you believe so should disqualify you from your own topic. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:891109719] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote>Russian interference with the election isn't a conspiracy theory and the very fact that you believe so should disqualify you from your own topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rob Cesternino 11/26/17 8:29:58 PM #57:	"Fake news" was literally a convenient excuse for why Hillary didn't win the election --- Stop asking me if I'm Jessica Simpson. Jewish girls Survivor is the greatest show EVER. are hawt <cite>Rob Cesternino posted [p:891109867] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote>"Fake news" was literally a convenient excuse for why Hillary didn't win the election</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/26/17 8:30:46 PM #58:	Axiom posted... https://www.ranker.com/list/journalists-who-lied/mel-judson Guess who makes up the majority on the list from a single organization. Foxnews They call Tucker Carlson a liar because his statement "more kids drown in bathtubs than are killed by accidental gunfire" is only true for kids up to age 14 lol, are you serious with this shit? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891109909] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote> https://www.ranker.com/list/journalists-who-lied/mel-judson Guess who makes up the majority on the list from a single organization. Foxnews</quote> They call Tucker Carlson a liar because his statement "more kids drown in bathtubs than are killed by accidental gunfire" is only true for kids up to age 14 lol, are you serious with this shit?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/26/17 8:32:37 PM #59:	COVxy posted... Russian interference with the election isn't a conspiracy theory Posting nonsense on Facebook (which according to polls didn't affect voting at all) is not interference. CNN to this day pushes the idea that Russia hacked the election, and was directly working with Trump to do it. Something that hasn't been proven by anyone, by the way. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891109998] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Russian interference with the election isn't a conspiracy theory</quote> Posting nonsense on Facebook (which according to polls didn't affect voting at all) is not interference. CNN to this day pushes the idea that Russia hacked the election, and was directly working with Trump to do it. Something that hasn't been proven by anyone, by the way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 11/26/17 8:34:45 PM #60:	Except you know as well as everyone they did far more than just "post nonsense on facebook". This is amazing mental gymnastics even for Mal's usual standards. --- http://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:891110118] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote>Except you know as well as everyone they did far more than just "post nonsense on facebook". This is amazing mental gymnastics even for Mal's usual standards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/26/17 8:35:49 PM #61:	Mal_Fet posted... Something that hasn't been proven by anyone, by the way. Having watched CNN on a fairly regular basis, I haven't heard any reporting outside the realm of released security reports. If you are hearing anything else, you are deliberately misunderstanding or getting news about CNN from somewhere outside CNN. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:891110180] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Something that hasn't been proven by anyone, by the way.</quote> Having watched CNN on a fairly regular basis, I haven't heard any reporting outside the realm of released security reports. If you are hearing anything else, you are deliberately misunderstanding or getting news about CNN from somewhere outside CNN.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 11/26/17 8:42:34 PM #63:	Bio1590 posted... Except you know as well as everyone they did far more than just "post nonsense on facebook". Well no one ever proved they hacked anything nor is there any evidence they did anything that would constitute election fraud and yet... COVxy posted... Mal_Fet posted... Something that hasn't been proven by anyone, by the way. Having watched CNN on a fairly regular basis, I haven't heard any reporting outside the realm of released security reports. If you are hearing anything else, you are deliberately misunderstanding or getting news about CNN from somewhere outside CNN. There are literally screencaps of CNN news in the OP please tell me you aren't this far gone... --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891110539] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>Except you know as well as everyone they did far more than just "post nonsense on facebook".</quote> Well no one ever proved they hacked anything nor is there any evidence they did anything that would constitute election fraud and yet... <cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Something that hasn't been proven by anyone, by the way.</quote> Having watched CNN on a fairly regular basis, I haven't heard any reporting outside the realm of released security reports. If you are hearing anything else, you are deliberately misunderstanding or getting news about CNN from somewhere outside CNN.</quote> There are literally screencaps of CNN news in the OP please tell me you aren't this far gone...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/26/17 8:44:53 PM #64:	I wonder if you really think "hack" has a singular meaning and any headline with it suggests gaining access to voting machines and changing votes. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:891110647] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote>I wonder if you really think "hack" has a singular meaning and any headline with it suggests gaining access to voting machines and changing votes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 11/26/17 8:47:51 PM #66:	The ice cream story was covered like the blue/gold dress story it wasnt seriously reported on as a main story. --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:891110820] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote>The ice cream story was covered like the blue/gold dress story it wasnt seriously reported on as a main story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 11/26/17 8:47:57 PM #67:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Alucard188 posted... A pre-emptive Mal_Fet CNN meltdown topic. you should be ashamed for shitposting this way, being that youre a mod and a public face for this site <cite>eggcorn posted [p:891110830] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote>A pre-emptive Mal_Fet CNN meltdown topic.</quote> you should be ashamed for shitposting this way, being that youre a mod and a public face for this site</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/26/17 8:50:41 PM #68:	COVxy posted... I wonder if you really think "hack" has a singular meaning and any headline with it suggests gaining access to voting machines and changing votes. You know what "hack" doesn't mean in any context? Posting negative things about your candidate on social media sites. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891110969] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder if you really think "hack" has a singular meaning and any headline with it suggests gaining access to voting machines and changing votes.</quote> You know what "hack" doesn't mean in any context? Posting negative things about your candidate on social media sites.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 11/26/17 8:51:06 PM #69:	http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/26/opinions/fake-news-and-disinformation-opinion-wardle-derakhshan/index.html Editor's Note: Hossein Derakhshan is a writer and researcher on the socio-political impacts of new media technologies who spent six years in prison in Iran over his blog. They recently co-authored a report, "Information Disorder," commissioned by the Council of Europe. Claire Wardle is a research fellow at the Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy, and leads the non-profit First Draft. The opinions in this article belong to the authors. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891110988] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote>http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/26/opinions/fake-news-and-disinformation-opinion-wardle-derakhshan/index.html <quote>Editor's Note: Hossein Derakhshan is a writer and researcher on the socio-political impacts of new media technologies who spent six years in prison in Iran over his blog. They recently co-authored a report, "Information Disorder," commissioned by the Council of Europe. Claire Wardle is a research fellow at the Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy, and leads the non-profit First Draft. The opinions in this article belong to the authors. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 11/26/17 8:52:12 PM #70:	Mal_Fet posted... COVxy posted... I wonder if you really think "hack" has a singular meaning and any headline with it suggests gaining access to voting machines and changing votes. You know what "hack" doesn't mean in any context? Posting negative things about your candidate on social media sites. It's the opinion piece that's saying that. The CNN article headline is agreeing with you. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:891111051] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder if you really think "hack" has a singular meaning and any headline with it suggests gaining access to voting machines and changing votes.</quote> You know what "hack" doesn't mean in any context? Posting negative things about your candidate on social media sites.</quote> It's the opinion piece that's saying that. The CNN article headline is agreeing with you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/26/17 8:52:32 PM #71:	Mal_Fet posted... COVxy posted... I wonder if you really think "hack" has a singular meaning and any headline with it suggests gaining access to voting machines and changing votes. You know what "hack" doesn't mean in any context? Posting negative things about your candidate on social media sites. Actually, social engineering is a gigantic part of hacking lmao --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:891111063] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder if you really think "hack" has a singular meaning and any headline with it suggests gaining access to voting machines and changing votes.</quote> You know what "hack" doesn't mean in any context? Posting negative things about your candidate on social media sites.</quote> Actually, social engineering is a gigantic part of hacking lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 11/26/17 8:56:40 PM #72:	Bullet_Wing posted... CNN is a garbage news site, but they kind of have a point with "fake news". It's gone from less of a factual statement, to more of an "anything I don't like is fake news" by Trump No, CNN is the first that took it from a factual statement to "anything I don't like is fake news". During the debut of the term "fake news", CNN and other leftists tried to push the term fake news on legitimate conservative websites. They even had a "fake news" list and ended up having to remove several conservative news sites from their list that actually weren't fake news. They were the ones who propagated the term and turned it into something it wasn't. Then, the term got flipped onto them and actually stuck. Now they're fake news, and will be for a very long time. It'll take awhile for them to shake that term and I have no sympathy for them. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:891111279] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>CNN is a garbage news site, but they kind of have a point with "fake news". It's gone from less of a factual statement, to more of an "anything I don't like is fake news" by Trump </quote> No, CNN is the first that took it from a factual statement to "anything I don't like is fake news". During the debut of the term "fake news", CNN and other leftists tried to push the term fake news on legitimate conservative websites. They even had a "fake news" list and ended up having to remove several conservative news sites from their list that actually weren't fake news. They were the ones who propagated the term and turned it into something it wasn't. Then, the term got flipped onto them and actually stuck. Now they're fake news, and will be for a very long time. It'll take awhile for them to shake that term and I have no sympathy for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/26/17 8:56:49 PM #73:	COVxy posted... Mal_Fet posted... COVxy posted... I wonder if you really think "hack" has a singular meaning and any headline with it suggests gaining access to voting machines and changing votes. You know what "hack" doesn't mean in any context? Posting negative things about your candidate on social media sites. Actually, social engineering is a gigantic part of hacking lmao True. Some of the most famous hackers were just good at social engineering. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:891111285] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder if you really think "hack" has a singular meaning and any headline with it suggests gaining access to voting machines and changing votes.</quote> You know what "hack" doesn't mean in any context? Posting negative things about your candidate on social media sites.</quote> Actually, social engineering is a gigantic part of hacking lmao</quote> True. Some of the most famous hackers were just good at social engineering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 11/26/17 9:11:09 PM #74:	Capn Circus posted... Bullet_Wing posted... CNN is a garbage news site, but they kind of have a point with "fake news". It's gone from less of a factual statement, to more of an "anything I don't like is fake news" by Trump No, CNN is the first that took it from a factual statement to "anything I don't like is fake news". During the debut of the term "fake news", CNN and other leftists tried to push the term fake news on legitimate conservative websites. They even had a "fake news" list and ended up having to remove several conservative news sites from their list that actually weren't fake news. They were the ones who propagated the term and turned it into something it wasn't. Then, the term got flipped onto them and actually stuck. Now they're fake news, and will be for a very long time. It'll take awhile for them to shake that term and I have no sympathy for them. Mal_Fet posted... When we use the term "fake news" it is not only self-defeating, it oversimplifies a very complex problem. A year ago, this wasn't the case. The term actually meant something. It described a particular type of website that used the same design templates as professional news websites but its contents were entirely fabricated. But earlier this year, the term started to become meaningless. It became used to describe any piece of information that someone else didn't like. Increasingly the term has become weaponized by politicians who use it to undermine independent journalism in an effort to reach the public directly through their own channels. So you agree with them yet you're still whining. Why do the people that agree with CNN keep on whining? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:891112050] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>CNN is a garbage news site, but they kind of have a point with "fake news". It's gone from less of a factual statement, to more of an "anything I don't like is fake news" by Trump </quote> No, CNN is the first that took it from a factual statement to "anything I don't like is fake news". During the debut of the term "fake news", CNN and other leftists tried to push the term fake news on legitimate conservative websites. They even had a "fake news" list and ended up having to remove several conservative news sites from their list that actually weren't fake news. They were the ones who propagated the term and turned it into something it wasn't. Then, the term got flipped onto them and actually stuck. Now they're fake news, and will be for a very long time. It'll take awhile for them to shake that term and I have no sympathy for them.</quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>When we use the term "fake news" it is not only self-defeating, it oversimplifies a very complex problem. A year ago, this wasn't the case. The term actually meant something. It described a particular type of website that used the same design templates as professional news websites but its contents were entirely fabricated. But earlier this year, the term started to become meaningless. It became used to describe any piece of information that someone else didn't like. Increasingly the term has become weaponized by politicians who use it to undermine independent journalism in an effort to reach the public directly through their own channels.</quote> So you agree with them yet you're still whining. Why do the people that agree with CNN keep on whining?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/26/17 9:17:59 PM #75:	A_Good_Boy posted... Mal_Fet posted... COVxy posted... I wonder if you really think "hack" has a singular meaning and any headline with it suggests gaining access to voting machines and changing votes. You know what "hack" doesn't mean in any context? Posting negative things about your candidate on social media sites. It's the opinion piece that's saying that. The CNN article headline is agreeing with you. CNN editing and approving of an op-ed claiming Russia hacked the election is still approval by CNN of the message. Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3enRvH59Y Or do CNN's own pundits not count either COVxy posted... Actually, social engineering is a gigantic part of hacking lmao No...it isn't --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891112414] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder if you really think "hack" has a singular meaning and any headline with it suggests gaining access to voting machines and changing votes.</quote> You know what "hack" doesn't mean in any context? Posting negative things about your candidate on social media sites.</quote> It's the opinion piece that's saying that. The CNN article headline is agreeing with you.</quote> CNN editing and approving of an op-ed claiming Russia hacked the election is still approval by CNN of the message. Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3enRvH59Y Or do CNN's own pundits not count either <cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, social engineering is a gigantic part of hacking lmao</quote> No...it isn't</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 11/26/17 9:19:58 PM #76:	A_Good_Boy posted... So you agree with them yet you're still whining. Why do the people that agree with CNN keep on whining? I'm not sure how you conclude I agree with them. Part of what they're saying is true, but they're leaving out important details about how they're the ones who helped propagate the term into something it isn't. They make it seem like Trump started doing that. No, they did it. Fake news has taken on a bit different meaning now, anyway. And I'm not sure I agree that it's only a term that's used for anything someone doesn't like. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:891112531] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>So you agree with them yet you're still whining. Why do the people that agree with CNN keep on whining?</quote> I'm not sure how you conclude I agree with them. Part of what they're saying is true, but they're leaving out important details about how they're the ones who helped propagate the term into something it isn't. They make it seem like Trump started doing that. No, they did it. Fake news has taken on a bit different meaning now, anyway. And I'm not sure I agree that it's only a term that's used for anything someone doesn't like.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/26/17 9:22:40 PM #78:	Mal_Fet posted... No...it isn't It is, but you simply don't know what you're talking about. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:891112676] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>No...it isn't</quote> It is, but you simply don't know what you're talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/26/17 9:23:24 PM #79:	Dustin1280 posted... Mal_Fet posted... more kids drown in bathtubs than are killed by accidental gunfire http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/15/tucker-carlson/carlson-guns-dont-kill-people-bathtubs-do/ lmao you literally just confirmed my post. They called him a liar because his statement was true for kids up to age 14 The only way you could call Tucker a liar there is if you arbitrarily assume "kid" is synonymous with "minor". --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891112720] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dustin1280 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>more kids drown in bathtubs than are killed by accidental gunfire</quote> http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/15/tucker-carlson/carlson-guns-dont-kill-people-bathtubs-do/</quote> lmao you literally just confirmed my post. They called him a liar because his statement was true for kids up to age 14 The only way you could call Tucker a liar there is if you arbitrarily assume "kid" is synonymous with "minor".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dustin1280 11/26/17 9:23:59 PM #80:	Yeah I realized that after I re-read it, I deleted it, but you already quoted it. My bad --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 --They delivered! <cite>Dustin1280 posted [p:891112752] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I realized that after I re-read it, I deleted it, but you already quoted it. My bad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 11/26/17 9:25:42 PM #81:	CNN, Fox, both fake news --- https://imgur.com/KVIcgYt <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:891112860] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote>CNN, Fox, both fake news</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 11/26/17 9:26:28 PM #82:	Capn Circus posted... A_Good_Boy posted... So you agree with them yet you're still whining. Why do the people that agree with CNN keep on whining? I'm not sure how you conclude I agree with them. Part of what they're saying is true, but they're leaving out important details about how they're the ones who helped propagate the term into something it isn't. They make it seem like Trump started doing that. No, they did it. Fake news has taken on a bit different meaning now, anyway. And I'm not sure I agree that it's only a term that's used for anything someone doesn't like. Holy fuckng shit just read the goddamn article. Literally everything you've said (Minus the Trump bit. That's just you nut slurping) is there. If CNN is so fake then there shouldn't such a big issue with you reading them, like an Onion article, yet all you manage to do is whine and complain over shit you ultimately agree with anyways. Goddamn soyboys being terrified of CNN and shit all of a sudden. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:891112897] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>So you agree with them yet you're still whining. Why do the people that agree with CNN keep on whining?</quote> I'm not sure how you conclude I agree with them. Part of what they're saying is true, but they're leaving out important details about how they're the ones who helped propagate the term into something it isn't. They make it seem like Trump started doing that. No, they did it. Fake news has taken on a bit different meaning now, anyway. And I'm not sure I agree that it's only a term that's used for anything someone doesn't like.</quote> Holy fuckng shit just read the goddamn article. Literally everything you've said (Minus the Trump bit. That's just you nut slurping) is there. If CNN is so fake then there shouldn't such a big issue with you reading them, like an Onion article, yet all you manage to do is whine and complain over shit you ultimately agree with anyways. Goddamn soyboys being terrified of CNN and shit all of a sudden.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/26/17 9:26:31 PM #83:	Remember that clown on CNN who said "fake news" was as bad as the n-word? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:891112900] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote>Remember that clown on CNN who said "fake news" was as bad as the n-word?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 11/26/17 9:28:55 PM #84:	Mal_Fet posted... Dustin1280 posted... Mal_Fet posted... more kids drown in bathtubs than are killed by accidental gunfire http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/15/tucker-carlson/carlson-guns-dont-kill-people-bathtubs-do/ lmao you literally just confirmed my post. They called him a liar because his statement was true for kids up to age 14 The only way you could call Tucker a liar there is if you arbitrarily assume "kid" is synonymous with "minor". Another reason Politifact is complete horse ***. "Pants on fire! He lied, lied, lied! Let us spin and we'll tell you how!" --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks* <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:891113033] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dustin1280 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>more kids drown in bathtubs than are killed by accidental gunfire</quote> http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/15/tucker-carlson/carlson-guns-dont-kill-people-bathtubs-do/</quote> lmao you literally just confirmed my post. They called him a liar because his statement was true for kids up to age 14 The only way you could call Tucker a liar there is if you arbitrarily assume "kid" is synonymous with "minor".</quote> Another reason Politifact is complete horse ****. "Pants on fire! He lied, lied, lied! Let us spin and we'll tell you how!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 11/26/17 9:32:05 PM #85:	Capn Circus posted... Mal_Fet posted... Dustin1280 posted... Mal_Fet posted... more kids drown in bathtubs than are killed by accidental gunfire http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/15/tucker-carlson/carlson-guns-dont-kill-people-bathtubs-do/ lmao you literally just confirmed my post. They called him a liar because his statement was true for kids up to age 14 The only way you could call Tucker a liar there is if you arbitrarily assume "kid" is synonymous with "minor". Another reason Politifact is complete horse **. "Pants on fire! He lied, lied, lied! Let us spin and we'll tell you how!" Mal's lying, that's not what the page says. I'm starting to notice a pattern with you and reading. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:891113212] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dustin1280 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>more kids drown in bathtubs than are killed by accidental gunfire</quote> http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/15/tucker-carlson/carlson-guns-dont-kill-people-bathtubs-do/</quote> lmao you literally just confirmed my post. They called him a liar because his statement was true for kids up to age 14 The only way you could call Tucker a liar there is if you arbitrarily assume "kid" is synonymous with "minor".</quote> Another reason Politifact is complete horse **. "Pants on fire! He lied, lied, lied! Let us spin and we'll tell you how!"</quote> Mal's lying, that's not what the page says. I'm starting to notice a pattern with you and reading.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 11/26/17 9:34:05 PM #86:	A_Good_Boy posted... Mal's lying, that's not what the page says. I'm starting to notice a pattern with you and reading Basically anything they don't like is lies and fake and wrong and you shouldn't question their motives. Let them flail angrily though, it's cute --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:891113310] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>Mal's lying, that's not what the page says. I'm starting to notice a pattern with you and reading</quote> Basically anything they don't like is lies and fake and wrong and you shouldn't question their motives. Let them flail angrily though, it's cute</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdviceMan 11/26/17 9:39:36 PM #87:	Jon Stewart's main gripe about CNN is not that they lie or that they are dishonest, it's that they squander their infrastructure and reach. CNN chases stories, and sensationalizes them for more people to watch. He thinks Fox News are flat out liars. --- "I'm not racist but, BLM sure did make me racist." -Skasa I'm just here to offer you advice, take it or leave it. <cite>AdviceMan posted [p:891113609] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote>Jon Stewart's main gripe about CNN is not that they lie or that they are dishonest, it's that they squander their infrastructure and reach. CNN chases stories, and sensationalizes them for more people to watch. He thinks Fox News are flat out liars.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/26/17 9:43:48 PM #88:	The Great Muta 22 posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Mal's lying, that's not what the page says. I'm starting to notice a pattern with you and reading Basically anything they don't like is lies and fake and wrong and you shouldn't question their motives. Let them flail angrily though, it's cute However, for children 5 years old and up, government data show that guns are three times more deadly than bathtubs. Carlson was not just wrong, but with his phrase, "far more children died," he was emphatically wrong. We rate the claim Pants on Fire. From Politifact's own numbers: Accidental shooting deaths for kids up to 14: 74 Bathtub deaths for children up to 14: 86 Say it with me, @The_Great_Muta_22 and @A_Good_Boy : ~~Fake news~~ --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891113840] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>Mal's lying, that's not what the page says. I'm starting to notice a pattern with you and reading</quote> Basically anything they don't like is lies and fake and wrong and you shouldn't question their motives. Let them flail angrily though, it's cute</quote> <quote>However, for children 5 years old and up, government data show that guns are three times more deadly than bathtubs. Carlson was not just wrong, but with his phrase, "far more children died," he was emphatically wrong. We rate the claim Pants on Fire.</quote> From Politifact's own numbers: Accidental shooting deaths for kids up to 14: 74 Bathtub deaths for children up to 14: 86 Say it with me, @The_Great_Muta_22 and @A_Good_Boy : Fake news</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/26/17 9:45:42 PM #89:	Mal_Fet posted... From Politifact's own numbers: Accidental shooting deaths for kids up to 14: 74 Bathtub deaths for children up to 14: 86 You know this is an extremely biased interpretation. It's entirely driven by ages 0-4. You can't take summary measures as representative if they are driven entirely by outliers. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:891113958] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>From Politifact's own numbers: Accidental shooting deaths for kids up to 14: 74 Bathtub deaths for children up to 14: 86</quote> You know this is an extremely biased interpretation. It's entirely driven by ages 0-4. You can't take summary measures as representative if they are driven entirely by outliers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 11/26/17 9:46:03 PM #90:	A_Good_Boy posted... Capn Circus posted... A_Good_Boy posted... So you agree with them yet you're still whining. Why do the people that agree with CNN keep on whining? I'm not sure how you conclude I agree with them. Part of what they're saying is true, but they're leaving out important details about how they're the ones who helped propagate the term into something it isn't. They make it seem like Trump started doing that. No, they did it. Fake news has taken on a bit different meaning now, anyway. And I'm not sure I agree that it's only a term that's used for anything someone doesn't like. Holy fuckng shit just read the goddamn article. Literally everything you've said (Minus the Trump bit. That's just you nut slurping) is there. If CNN is so fake then there shouldn't such a big issue with you reading them, like an Onion article, yet all you manage to do is whine and complain over shit you ultimately agree with anyways. Goddamn soyboys being terrified of CNN and shit all of a sudden. I was replying to Bullet Wing, as he insinuated fake news was "anything I don't like" by Trump and that's how fake news first started being misused. I explained how that wasn't the case. And like I said, the article never mentions CNN started misusing fake news. That's a pretty important thing to leave out. I'm not sure what's so hard for you to understand. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:891113978] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>So you agree with them yet you're still whining. Why do the people that agree with CNN keep on whining?</quote> I'm not sure how you conclude I agree with them. Part of what they're saying is true, but they're leaving out important details about how they're the ones who helped propagate the term into something it isn't. They make it seem like Trump started doing that. No, they did it. Fake news has taken on a bit different meaning now, anyway. And I'm not sure I agree that it's only a term that's used for anything someone doesn't like.</quote> Holy fuckng shit just read the goddamn article. Literally everything you've said (Minus the Trump bit. That's just you nut slurping) is there. If CNN is so fake then there shouldn't such a big issue with you reading them, like an Onion article, yet all you manage to do is whine and complain over shit you ultimately agree with anyways. Goddamn soyboys being terrified of CNN and shit all of a sudden.</quote> I was replying to Bullet Wing, as he insinuated fake news was "anything I don't like" by Trump and that's how fake news first started being misused. I explained how that wasn't the case. And like I said, the article never mentions CNN started misusing fake news. That's a pretty important thing to leave out. I'm not sure what's so hard for you to understand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/26/17 9:46:45 PM #91:	COVxy posted... Mal_Fet posted... From Politifact's own numbers: Accidental shooting deaths for kids up to 14: 74 Bathtub deaths for children up to 14: 86 You know this is an extremely biased interpretation. It's entirely driven by ages 0-4. Do kids aged 0-4 not count as "kids" now? Or do toddlers not count as "kids" only when you need to defend the narrative that Fox is somehow worse than CNN --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891114016] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>From Politifact's own numbers: Accidental shooting deaths for kids up to 14: 74 Bathtub deaths for children up to 14: 86</quote> You know this is an extremely biased interpretation. It's entirely driven by ages 0-4. </quote> Do kids aged 0-4 not count as "kids" now? Or do toddlers not count as "kids" only when you need to defend the narrative that Fox is somehow worse than CNN</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/26/17 9:48:23 PM #92:	Mal_Fet posted... So? Do kids 0-4 not count as "kids" now? The point is that this relationship only holds true for children ages 0-4, and not more than a post ago you were manipulating the numbers to make it seem like it was ages 0-14... --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:891114089] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>So? Do kids 0-4 not count as "kids" now?</quote> The point is that this relationship only holds true for children ages 0-4, and not more than a post ago you were manipulating the numbers to make it seem like it was ages 0-14...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/26/17 9:48:33 PM #93:	COVxy posted... It's funny, because people on the far right and far left dislike CNN for entirely different reasons. People on the far left decry CNN for giving to much airtime to right leaning pundits. That's because people on the far left often think giving any airtime to right leaning pundits is too much. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:891114099] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny, because people on the far right and far left dislike CNN for entirely different reasons. People on the far left decry CNN for giving to much airtime to right leaning pundits.</quote> That's because people on the far left often think giving any airtime to right leaning pundits is too much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BillyKidd 11/26/17 9:51:15 PM #94:	don't forget their stories on Trump "overfeeding" the koi. --- Tho I walk through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil. For I'm the meanest mofo in the whole f'n valley http://i.imgur.com/4GzX1.jpg <cite>BillyKidd posted [p:891114241] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote>don't forget their stories on Trump "overfeeding" the koi.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/26/17 9:52:11 PM #95:	COVxy posted... The point is that this relationship only holds true for children ages 0-4, and not more than a post ago you were manipulating the numbers to make it seem like it was aged 0-14... No, if you add up the deaths from kids 0-14, more died from drowning in a bathtub than by accidental gunfire. They're literally calling Tucker a liar because 1) he considers kids who are under 4 to be, ya know, kids, and 2) that it didn't include 15-17 year-olds who are not necessarily colloquially called "kids" in the same way you would call a toddler a kid Do you not see how only if you make really odd assumptions about how you interpret the data that you could actually argue Carlson lied? And is this not missing the greater point he was making; that there are way more dangerous things out therefore kids than accidental gunfire? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891114293] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>The point is that this relationship only holds true for children ages 0-4, and not more than a post ago you were manipulating the numbers to make it seem like it was aged 0-14...</quote> No, if you add up the deaths from kids 0-14, more died from drowning in a bathtub than by accidental gunfire. They're literally calling Tucker a liar because 1) he considers kids who are under 4 to be, ya know, kids, and 2) that it didn't include 15-17 year-olds who are not necessarily colloquially called "kids" in the same way you would call a toddler a kid Do you not see how only if you make really odd assumptions about how you interpret the data that you could actually argue Carlson lied? And is this not missing the greater point he was making; that there are way more dangerous things out therefore kids than accidental gunfire?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/26/17 9:53:10 PM #96:	Mal_Fet posted... No, if you add up the deaths from kids 0-14, more died from drowning in a bathtub than by accidental gunfire. That's not how you appropriately interpret data, and you absolutely know it. Who the fuck do you think you're fooling? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:891114342] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>No, if you add up the deaths from kids 0-14, more died from drowning in a bathtub than by accidental gunfire. </quote> That's not how you appropriately interpret data, and you absolutely know it. Who the fuck do you think you're fooling?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/26/17 9:54:07 PM #97:	COVxy posted... Mal_Fet posted... No, if you add up the deaths from kids 0-14, more died from drowning in a bathtub than by accidental gunfire. That's not how you appropriately interpret data, and you absolutely know it. Go ahead, explain to us why 1, 2, and 3 year-olds don't count as "kids". I will wait. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891114392] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>No, if you add up the deaths from kids 0-14, more died from drowning in a bathtub than by accidental gunfire. </quote> That's not how you appropriately interpret data, and you absolutely know it. </quote> Go ahead, explain to us why 1, 2, and 3 year-olds don't count as "kids". I will wait.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/26/17 9:55:18 PM #98:	Mal_Fet posted... Go ahead, explain to us why 1, 2, and 3 year-olds don't count as "kids". I never suggested that. Only that you were deliberately manipulating data to suit your story just a few posts ago. Just admit it and move on. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:891114463] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Go ahead, explain to us why 1, 2, and 3 year-olds don't count as "kids". </quote> I never suggested that. Only that you were deliberately manipulating data to suit your story just a few posts ago. Just admit it and move on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 11/26/17 9:56:10 PM #99:	Hey Mal, why are you cherry picking that table so hard. There's more data that politifact examined that for some reason you're not including. Why is the tables outlier more representative of the data than the other range you're excluding? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:891114507] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote>Hey Mal, why are you cherry picking that table so hard. There's more data that politifact examined that for some reason you're not including. Why is the tables outlier more representative of the data than the other range you're excluding?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 11/26/17 9:58:26 PM #100:	COVxy posted... I never suggested that. Only that you were deliberately manipulating data to suit your story just a few posts ago. lmao how am I manipulating data?? Tucker's statement is true for kids 0-14 But Lolitifact called it a lie because his statement is false for kids 5-17 Since the word "kid" has no definite age range it's fucking insane that he's counted as a liar because they didn't like what age range he chose. Are you understanding any of this? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891114651] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>I never suggested that. Only that you were deliberately manipulating data to suit your story just a few posts ago.</quote> lmao how am I manipulating data?? Tucker's statement is true for kids 0-14 But Lolitifact called it a lie because his statement is false for kids 5-17 Since the word "kid" has no definite age range it's fucking insane that he's counted as a liar because they didn't like what age range he chose. Are you understanding any of this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 11/26/17 9:58:51 PM #101:	COVxy posted... Mal_Fet posted... No, if you add up the deaths from kids 0-14, more died from drowning in a bathtub than by accidental gunfire. That's not how you appropriately interpret data, and you absolutely know it. Who the fuck do you think you're fooling? Lol he's even worse than he claims CNN to be <cite>Axiom posted [p:891114676] in CNN want's... [t:76034045]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>No, if you add up the deaths from kids 0-14, more died from drowning in a bathtub than by accidental gunfire. </quote> That's not how you appropriately interpret data, and you absolutely know it. Who the fuck do you think you're fooling?</quote> Lol he's even worse than he claims CNN to be</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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