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SamuelHayden
11/28/17 11:53:24 AM
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Sadmiral will only take a news source as true if it comes from Breitbart, Inforwars, The Stormer or sometimes Fox News. You can't take the guy seriously.

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thelovefist
11/28/17 11:53:46 AM
#54:


SamuelHayden posted...
Sadmiral will only take a news source as true if it comes from Breitbart, Inforwars, The Stormer or sometimes Fox News. You can't take the guy seriously.

News story: Water is wet.
Source: Scientific journal
Sadmiral says: FAKE NEWS!!!! SHOW ME INFOWARS LINK!!!! MAGA MAGA MAGA

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Questionmarktarius
11/28/17 11:53:47 AM
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Howl posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
The page, which has some 200 members, describes itself as "a place for those who are on the Right to discuss politics, philosophy, and general Right-wing stuff with as little censorship or government intervention as possible."


There's the actual story. The rest of this is the typical fake news bullshit where they just call anything right wing as white supremacist.


Yeah alot of liberals literally don't understand that there's an entire range of views and opinions amongst people on the right, and that the vast vast majority of people on the right hold no racist view points at all.

To them anyone even slightly to the right of Bernie Sanders is a white supremacist who's main goal in life is keeping minorites down and or out of the country.

Even Shillary isn't left enough to a lot of liberals.

If anything, the reluctance to censor or government-intervene is the true "crime" here.

The new left has truly become the old right, in that it's full of of busybodies defending the innocent against sin. Anything or anyone remotely "harmful" must be converted, suppressed, or bludgeoned into obedience - possibly even destroyed, if need be.
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KazumaKiryu
11/28/17 11:56:32 AM
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Antifar posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
There's the actual story. The rest of this is the typical fake news bullshit where they just call anything right wing as white supremacist.


I mean, it gives examples of the right wing politics being discussed
But Hope Not Hate has discovered that the group also serves as a platform for fascists and white supremacists, with some members expressing support for a neo-Nazi group the British government classified as a terror organization.

"Jo Cox was a virtue signalling, more-progressive-than-thou **** and we do not owe her respect just because she was killed," wrote one member in a reference to the Labour MP who was murdered by a neo-Nazi.

Another post proposes a cover photo for the group featuring a swastika and men dressed up as Nazis.


What is this group? They don't even say the name. Shouldn't we be able to see for ourselves? Were any of these inflammatory posts made by the Breitbart writer in question?
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Zeeak4444
11/28/17 11:57:27 AM
#57:


Howl posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
The page, which has some 200 members, describes itself as "a place for those who are on the Right to discuss politics, philosophy, and general Right-wing stuff with as little censorship or government intervention as possible."


There's the actual story. The rest of this is the typical fake news bullshit where they just call anything right wing as white supremacist.


Yeah alot of liberals literally don't understand that there's an entire range of views and opinions amongst people on the right, and that the vast vast majority of people on the right hold no racist view points at all.

To them anyone even slightly to the right of Bernie Sanders is a white supremacist who's main goal in life is keeping minorites down and or out of the country.

Even Shillary isn't left enough to a lot of liberals.


People would care if the most common trait in a racist wasn't denial.
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HypnoCoosh
11/28/17 11:58:04 AM
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Why did I waste my time reading that?

Literally an article with zero sources.

You know in Uni you get ZERO credit for this kind of paper....?
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Antifar
11/28/17 12:01:11 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
What is this group? They don't even say the name. Shouldn't we be able to see for ourselves?

The original HopeNotHate report does name the group: Young Right Society, and it shows a sampling of the posts there: https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2017/11/23/exposed-breitbart-writers-vile-racist-group/
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/YRS-nazi-1024x499.png
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metralo
11/28/17 12:06:38 PM
#60:


Howl posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
The page, which has some 200 members, describes itself as "a place for those who are on the Right to discuss politics, philosophy, and general Right-wing stuff with as little censorship or government intervention as possible."


There's the actual story. The rest of this is the typical fake news bullshit where they just call anything right wing as white supremacist.


Yeah alot of liberals literally don't understand that there's an entire range of views and opinions amongst people on the right, and that the vast vast majority of people on the right hold no racist view points at all.

To them anyone even slightly to the right of Bernie Sanders is a white supremacist who's main goal in life is keeping minorites down and or out of the country.

Even Shillary isn't left enough to a lot of liberals.


no, its because a lot of the right that the left calls out defend literal nazis.

and you're right, hillary (and obama, for that matter) is hardly left wing
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Questionmarktarius
11/28/17 12:07:00 PM
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Antifar posted...
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/YRS-nazi-1024x499.png
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/cville.png

And you think GameFAQs wouldn't rapidly decay into that the exact moment the mods stop overreacting to everything?
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metralo
11/28/17 12:07:59 PM
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Antifar posted...

The original HopeNotHate report does name the group: Young Right Society, and it shows a sampling of the posts there: https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2017/11/23/exposed-breitbart-writers-vile-racist-group/
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/YRS-nazi-1024x499.png
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/cville.png


i can definitely see a lot of CE having nothing wrong with this
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The Great Muta 22
11/28/17 12:38:22 PM
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Antifar posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
What is this group? They don't even say the name. Shouldn't we be able to see for ourselves?

The original HopeNotHate report does name the group: Young Right Society, and it shows a sampling of the posts there: https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2017/11/23/exposed-breitbart-writers-vile-racist-group/
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/YRS-nazi-1024x499.png
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/cville.png

KazumaKiryu posted...
Were any of these inflammatory posts made by the Breitbart writer in question?

Here he is showing off a book by Julius Evola
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/YRS-hadfield-evola-right-wing-youth.png


It doesn't matter. These people will dismiss the rotten core that is the foundation of both Breitbart and the entire Trump base regardless of how many times you show them direct confirmation of such. But the reality is Bannon and the Mercer family have a direct connection to Trump and still have a massive influence on him and policy in this country and they are only going to get louder and more embolden.
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Giant_Aspirin
11/28/17 12:56:24 PM
#64:


The Admiral posted...
That site literally has a news heading section called "Breitbart - Neo-Nazis"


that's nice and all, but how does that refute or negate anything mentioned in this article? instead of deflecting, can you address the topic at hand?

edit: and as Antifar mentioned (and documented), that's totally untrue.
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Phantom_Nook
11/28/17 12:57:11 PM
#65:


Breitbart is a racist shitpile for racist scum? What a shock! I'm literally having a heart attack from not-surprise!
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Giant_Aspirin
11/28/17 12:57:36 PM
#66:


Antifar posted...
Whereas Breitbart actually has a tagged section like this:
http://www.breitbart.com/tag/black-crime/


holy shit that's abhorrent
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creativerealms
11/28/17 12:58:09 PM
#67:


It needed to be exposed?
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Giant_Aspirin
11/28/17 12:59:55 PM
#68:


The Admiral posted...
it says he's the admin of a white supremacist group. Reddit has white supremacist members too, but it'd be ridiculous to call that a white supremacist site.


nobody is saying Facebook is a white supremacist site, just like nobody calls reddit that. that one particular group this author is an admin of IS specifically catering to white supremacists, though (see screenshots and documentation of the posts made there above), which would be akin to a white supremacist subreddit.
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Questionmarktarius
11/28/17 1:01:12 PM
#69:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
that one particular group this author is an admin of IS specifically catering to white supremacists, though

"No censorship, lol" just does that.
Go look at 4chan.
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Pings11
11/29/17 7:12:55 AM
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Antifar posted...
The Admiral posted...
That site literally has a news heading section called "Breitbart - Neo-Nazis"

That's just a quick link to this story, not a whole category of stories. It's right next to Netanyahu-Kenya, which links to this:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.825383

and Netanyahu-Police, which links to:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.825264

That's just a ticker of their top stories at any given time.
Whereas Breitbart actually has a tagged section like this:
http://www.breitbart.com/tag/black-crime/

Do like five seconds worth of research before posting.

IIRC, haaretz is the same website that accused Bibi Netanyahu's son, of being a Neo-Nazi member of the Alt-Right,

https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=haaretz%20netanyahu%20son

Joke site.
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Yaridovich
11/29/17 7:13:29 AM
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Giant_Aspirin
11/29/17 9:26:21 AM
#72:


Pings11 posted...
Antifar posted...
The Admiral posted...
That site literally has a news heading section called "Breitbart - Neo-Nazis"

That's just a quick link to this story, not a whole category of stories. It's right next to Netanyahu-Kenya, which links to this:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.825383

and Netanyahu-Police, which links to:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.825264

That's just a ticker of their top stories at any given time.
Whereas Breitbart actually has a tagged section like this:
http://www.breitbart.com/tag/black-crime/

Do like five seconds worth of research before posting.

IIRC, haaretz is the same website that accused Bibi Netanyahu's son, of being a Neo-Nazi member of the Alt-Right,

https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=haaretz%20netanyahu%20son

Joke site.


again, can you actually refute any of their claims on this particular matter, which are easily verifiable? or are you going to obsess over a deflection to derail the conversation because you have no real rebuttal?
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FrisbeeDude
11/29/17 9:46:17 AM
#73:


Yes, but that's not what the article says. It doesn't "he's the admin of a group with some white supremacist members," it says he's the admin of a white supremacist group. Reddit has white supremacist members too, but it'd be ridiculous to call that a white supremacist site.

Damn, I wish people of your ilk extended this logic to Black Lives Matter
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Howl
11/29/17 10:12:55 AM
#74:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Yes, but that's not what the article says. It doesn't "he's the admin of a group with some white supremacist members," it says he's the admin of a white supremacist group. Reddit has white supremacist members too, but it'd be ridiculous to call that a white supremacist site.

Damn, I wish people of your ilk extended this logic to Black Lives Matter


If it was limited to just one individual within the BLM movement, that would be logical. This is not the case at all though.
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FigureOfSpeech
11/29/17 1:31:48 PM
#75:


Funkydog posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
inb4 Admiral comes in and wins the gold in Mental Gymnastics

The Admiral posted...
That site literally has a news heading section called "Breitbart - Neo-Nazis"

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FigureOfSpeech
11/29/17 1:32:52 PM
#76:


The Admiral posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Funkydog posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
inb4 Admiral comes in and wins the gold in Mental Gymnastics

The Admiral posted...
That site literally has a news heading section called "Breitbart - Neo-Nazis"

I bet that?s just his warmup.


You guys can't win an argument just by predicting I'll call out your biased source.


Maybe be less predictable?
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FigureOfSpeech
11/29/17 1:35:18 PM
#77:


Caution998 posted...
I don't know about you guys, but I get my news from Haaretz (what the fuck is this place?) - with ten thousand popups that fly in your face.

Also, just in case this story is actually somehow true, literally nobody on CE has ever admitted to using breitbart in general.


Actually, Mal linked a breitbart article, was called out for it, then accused the people who called him out of "calling every source breitbart"
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Antifar
11/29/17 1:35:55 PM
#78:


Pings11 posted...
IIRC, haaretz is the same website that accused Bibi Netanyahu's son, of being a Neo-Nazi member of the Alt-Right,

Nowhere do they accuse him of being a Neo-Nazi. They do note that he posted a virulently anti-semitic meme that would probably get a poster warned on this website. And that David Duke looked fondly upon it:
https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/906524949665415174
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Prestoff
11/29/17 2:02:56 PM
#79:


Haaretz definitely does have a left bias when it comes to the topics they choose to write about, but they are well known to being factual about the stories they present like Post Bulletin, which is also a right leaning new site.

Questionmarktarius posted...
According to the report, the British anti-fascism charity Hope Not Hate discovered that Jack Hadfield, a third-year political science student in Britain, is behind the hidden group Young Right Society.

The page, which has some 200 members, describes itself as "a place for those who are on the Right to discuss politics, philosophy, and general Right-wing stuff with as little censorship or government intervention as possible."

But Hope Not Hate has discovered that the group also serves as a platform for fascists and white supremacists, with some members expressing support for a neo-Nazi group the British government classified as a terror organization.


tl;dr
Someone creates a nominally-righty barely-moderated facebook group. Nazis and bigots show up. That same someone gets shit on for not shitting on the nazis and bigots.


This seems to be the case as well, though I haven't read the whole article yet, just that small excerpt.
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Solar_Crimson
11/29/17 11:25:26 PM
#80:


eston posted...
"I am shocked by this revelation!" - no one, ever

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Darmik
11/29/17 11:31:10 PM
#81:


Remember when posters here defended Milo singing to Nazi salutes by believing that he couldn't see them and that he had no idea they were there? Good times.
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CADE FOSTER
11/29/17 11:33:39 PM
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WrestlinFan
11/30/17 8:32:53 AM
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I wonder how long Admiral will need to nest in a safe space before building up enough confidence to post on here again after getting btfo so hard lmao.
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chill02
11/30/17 10:15:12 AM
#85:


shockthemonkey posted...
This is the least surprising news.

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The Great Muta 22
11/30/17 10:18:36 AM
#86:


shockthemonkey posted...
Darmik posted...
Remember when posters here defended Milo singing to Nazi salutes by believing that he couldn't see them and that he had no idea they were there? Good times.

Yeah that was sad, they argued for like 200 posts that Milo didnt know the people he walked into the bar with.


"Its a total coincidence that Milo and Spencer were at the same random small time bar. Clearly Milo was there before and Spencer and his buddies just randomly showed up. And obviously Milo has vision problems and couldn't see the Roman salutes happening in front of him."
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SamuelHayden
11/30/17 10:19:51 AM
#87:


Darmik posted...
Remember when posters here defended Milo singing to Nazi salutes by believing that he couldn't see them and that he had no idea they were there? Good times.


Ah yes, he didn't have his glasses on (which he never does!) so he couldn't see the salutes 1 foot in front of him lol.
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Esrac
11/30/17 10:35:55 AM
#88:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
Pings11 posted...
Antifar posted...
The Admiral posted...
That site literally has a news heading section called "Breitbart - Neo-Nazis"

That's just a quick link to this story, not a whole category of stories. It's right next to Netanyahu-Kenya, which links to this:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.825383

and Netanyahu-Police, which links to:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.825264

That's just a ticker of their top stories at any given time.
Whereas Breitbart actually has a tagged section like this:
http://www.breitbart.com/tag/black-crime/

Do like five seconds worth of research before posting.

IIRC, haaretz is the same website that accused Bibi Netanyahu's son, of being a Neo-Nazi member of the Alt-Right,

https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=haaretz%20netanyahu%20son

Joke site.


again, can you actually refute any of their claims on this particular matter, which are easily verifiable? or are you going to obsess over a deflection to derail the conversation because you have no real rebuttal?


Are they easily verifiable? I tried to look up the Facebook group to verify but either it's private, deleted, or I don't know how to Facebook well enough.

I wanted to see for myself because the sources posted in this topic do seem to be pretty biased. But biased isn't the same as wrong.
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Giant_Aspirin
11/30/17 10:42:37 AM
#89:


it was available earlier, the group must have made itself private after this backlash.

throughout this topic are posts showing screenshots from that particular group.
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averagejoel
11/30/17 11:04:45 AM
#90:


FigureOfSpeech posted...
Caution998 posted...
I don't know about you guys, but I get my news from Haaretz (what the fuck is this place?) - with ten thousand popups that fly in your face.

Also, just in case this story is actually somehow true, literally nobody on CE has ever admitted to using breitbart in general.


Actually, Mal linked a breitbart article, was called out for it, then accused the people who called him out of "calling every source breitbart"

I was in an "argument" (I use that word in the loosest possible sense) yesterday with someone who posted a link to breitbart and got all uppity when i called him out for it
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FigureOfSpeech
11/30/17 12:12:27 PM
#91:


averagejoel posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
Caution998 posted...
I don't know about you guys, but I get my news from Haaretz (what the fuck is this place?) - with ten thousand popups that fly in your face.

Also, just in case this story is actually somehow true, literally nobody on CE has ever admitted to using breitbart in general.


Actually, Mal linked a breitbart article, was called out for it, then accused the people who called him out of "calling every source breitbart"

I was in an "argument" (I use that word in the loosest possible sense) yesterday with someone who posted a link to breitbart and got all uppity when i called him out for it


It was even funnier with mal because it literally went down like this...

Mal: *posts breitbart link*
Others: breitbart...
Mal: leftists, stop calling every right wing news site breitbart!
Others: but that link... literally breitbart.
Mal: *homer simpsons into bushes and disappears*
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iamintents
11/30/17 12:21:00 PM
#92:


clearaflagrantj posted...
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Special olympics maybe
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