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Callixtus
11/29/17 10:00:06 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
Antifar posted...
There's still more
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/business/media/nbc-matt-lauer.html
In 2001, the woman said, Mr. Lauer, who is married, asked her to his office to discuss a story during a workday. When she sat down, she said, he locked the door, which he could do by pressing a button while sitting at his desk. (People who worked at NBC said the button was a regular security measure installed for high-profile employees.)

The woman said Mr. Lauer asked her to unbutton her blouse, which she did. She said the anchor then stepped out from behind his desk, pulled down her pants, bent her over a chair and had intercourse with her. At some point, she said, she passed out with her pants pulled halfway down. She woke up on the floor of his office, and Mr. Lauer had his assistant take her to a nurse.

The woman told The Times that Mr. Lauer never made an advance toward her again and never mentioned what occurred in his office. She said she did not report the episode to NBC at the time because she believed she should have done more to stop Mr. Lauer. She left the network about a year later.

On Wednesday, the episode in Mr. Lauers office was reported to NBC News after the woman told her then-supervisor, who still works at the network. The woman said an NBC human resources representative had since contacted her.

The woman, who was in her early 40s at the time, told her then-husband about the encounter, which The Times confirmed with him in a phone call. The couple was separated at the time, and later divorced. She also described it to a friend five years ago, which the friend confirmed to The Times.


holy shit

Okay. I'm not one to try to deny accusations, and I've never made a post before doing so but this account, while on its face shocking, to me seems to be more ambiguous than it seems at first glance.

Putting the power imbalance question to the side (which is an important factor, but hardly conclusive as some women want to have sex with powerful men), I don't see what's wrong with that encounter. Even by her own account here she did not object to what was happening. We have no idea how she passed out, or if he continued to have sex with her after she passed out.
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Drasilor
11/29/17 10:07:54 PM
#102:


Antifar posted...
There's still more
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/business/media/nbc-matt-lauer.html
In 2001, the woman said, Mr. Lauer, who is married, asked her to his office to discuss a story during a workday. When she sat down, she said, he locked the door, which he could do by pressing a button while sitting at his desk. (People who worked at NBC said the button was a regular security measure installed for high-profile employees.)

The woman said Mr. Lauer asked her to unbutton her blouse, which she did. She said the anchor then stepped out from behind his desk, pulled down her pants, bent her over a chair and had intercourse with her. At some point, she said, she passed out with her pants pulled halfway down. She woke up on the floor of his office, and Mr. Lauer had his assistant take her to a nurse.

The woman told The Times that Mr. Lauer never made an advance toward her again and never mentioned what occurred in his office. She said she did not report the episode to NBC at the time because she believed she should have done more to stop Mr. Lauer. She left the network about a year later.

On Wednesday, the episode in Mr. Lauers office was reported to NBC News after the woman told her then-supervisor, who still works at the network. The woman said an NBC human resources representative had since contacted her.

The woman, who was in her early 40s at the time, told her then-husband about the encounter, which The Times confirmed with him in a phone call. The couple was separated at the time, and later divorced. She also described it to a friend five years ago, which the friend confirmed to The Times.


Literally no where in there is her stopping him.
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Antifar
11/29/17 10:55:48 PM
#103:


Weird how fears of a man being fired on nothing more than basesless accusations were, once again, overblown
https://twitter.com/KimZetter/status/936078814022483968
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CADE FOSTER
11/29/17 11:03:54 PM
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GoIdSocksForWok
11/30/17 5:39:29 AM
#105:


At this rate, all media is going to be all female
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J E S U S
11/30/17 6:10:32 AM
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bevan306
11/30/17 8:08:34 AM
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Ammonitida
11/30/17 8:15:58 AM
#108:


GoIdSocksForWok posted...
At this rate, all media is going to be all female


This anti-male genocide has to stop!!11
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Dyinglegacy
11/30/17 8:24:42 AM
#109:


Antifar posted...
There's still more
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/business/media/nbc-matt-lauer.html
In 2001, the woman said, Mr. Lauer, who is married, asked her to his office to discuss a story during a workday. When she sat down, she said, he locked the door, which he could do by pressing a button while sitting at his desk. (People who worked at NBC said the button was a regular security measure installed for high-profile employees.)

The woman said Mr. Lauer asked her to unbutton her blouse, which she did. She said the anchor then stepped out from behind his desk, pulled down her pants, bent her over a chair and had intercourse with her. At some point, she said, she passed out with her pants pulled halfway down. She woke up on the floor of his office, and Mr. Lauer had his assistant take her to a nurse.

The woman told The Times that Mr. Lauer never made an advance toward her again and never mentioned what occurred in his office. She said she did not report the episode to NBC at the time because she believed she should have done more to stop Mr. Lauer. She left the network about a year later.

On Wednesday, the episode in Mr. Lauers office was reported to NBC News after the woman told her then-supervisor, who still works at the network. The woman said an NBC human resources representative had since contacted her.

The woman, who was in her early 40s at the time, told her then-husband about the encounter, which The Times confirmed with him in a phone call. The couple was separated at the time, and later divorced. She also described it to a friend five years ago, which the friend confirmed to The Times.


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Ammonitida
11/30/17 8:37:19 AM
#110:


Dyinglegacy posted...
Antifar posted...
There's still more
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/business/media/nbc-matt-lauer.html
In 2001, the woman said, Mr. Lauer, who is married, asked her to his office to discuss a story during a workday. When she sat down, she said, he locked the door, which he could do by pressing a button while sitting at his desk. (People who worked at NBC said the button was a regular security measure installed for high-profile employees.)

The woman said Mr. Lauer asked her to unbutton her blouse, which she did. She said the anchor then stepped out from behind his desk, pulled down her pants, bent her over a chair and had intercourse with her. At some point, she said, she passed out with her pants pulled halfway down. She woke up on the floor of his office, and Mr. Lauer had his assistant take her to a nurse.

The woman told The Times that Mr. Lauer never made an advance toward her again and never mentioned what occurred in his office. She said she did not report the episode to NBC at the time because she believed she should have done more to stop Mr. Lauer. She left the network about a year later.

On Wednesday, the episode in Mr. Lauers office was reported to NBC News after the woman told her then-supervisor, who still works at the network. The woman said an NBC human resources representative had since contacted her.

The woman, who was in her early 40s at the time, told her then-husband about the encounter, which The Times confirmed with him in a phone call. The couple was separated at the time, and later divorced. She also described it to a friend five years ago, which the friend confirmed to The Times.


Hawt


WTF? Matt has been accused of RAPE too?
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jpenny2
11/30/17 9:21:47 AM
#112:


So Lauer is apologizing now. Why would he do that if, like some in this topic have repeatedly stated, there was no proof and the women were lying?
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Vyrulisse
11/30/17 9:22:52 AM
#113:


shockthemonkey posted...
Its amazing how much of this topic was people claiming that Lauer had been fired just because one person said he should, and now it turns out there was a huge report on his sexual misconduct and a colleague literally had an unsolicited dick pic from him.

It's almost like sensible people wanted proof before jumping to conclusions. I know it's a shocking concept but if you try really hard you'll understand.
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eston
11/30/17 9:30:43 AM
#114:


Vyrulisse posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Its amazing how much of this topic was people claiming that Lauer had been fired just because one person said he should, and now it turns out there was a huge report on his sexual misconduct and a colleague literally had an unsolicited dick pic from him.

It's almost like sensible people wanted proof before jumping to conclusions. I know it's a shocking concept but if you try really hard you'll understand.

I think he's talking about all the people (and there were quite a few ITT) who outright dismissed the accusations, many of them already jumping to the conclusion that it was all lies
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Antifar
11/30/17 9:31:32 AM
#115:


Vyrulisse posted...
It's almost like sensible people wanted proof before jumping to conclusions


What was the basis of your claim there was no review or investigation, exactly?
Vyrulisse posted...
Not even a review or investigation. Someone decides they have an axe to grind all they have to do is claim sexual harassment and someone's career is over and their name sullied.Troubling.

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Vyrulisse
11/30/17 9:34:31 AM
#116:


eston posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Its amazing how much of this topic was people claiming that Lauer had been fired just because one person said he should, and now it turns out there was a huge report on his sexual misconduct and a colleague literally had an unsolicited dick pic from him.

It's almost like sensible people wanted proof before jumping to conclusions. I know it's a shocking concept but if you try really hard you'll understand.

I think he's talking about all the people (and there were quite a few ITT) who outright dismissed the accusations, many of them already jumping to the conclusion that it was all lies

Oh, well then I apologize for being short with him. Yeah there's no reason to outright dismiss such things but as for my comments, I'm mostly talking about how people just scream guilty instantly without waiting for things to shake out.

NBC didn't look real good either doing it out of the blue and with nearly zero information on why except that there was an accusation. NBC looks worse now because it appears they did know about such things before and were trying to cover their asses before it was reported by others.
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Fam_Fam
11/30/17 9:36:58 AM
#117:


Ammonitida posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
Antifar posted...
There's still more
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/business/media/nbc-matt-lauer.html
In 2001, the woman said, Mr. Lauer, who is married, asked her to his office to discuss a story during a workday. When she sat down, she said, he locked the door, which he could do by pressing a button while sitting at his desk. (People who worked at NBC said the button was a regular security measure installed for high-profile employees.)

The woman said Mr. Lauer asked her to unbutton her blouse, which she did. She said the anchor then stepped out from behind his desk, pulled down her pants, bent her over a chair and had intercourse with her. At some point, she said, she passed out with her pants pulled halfway down. She woke up on the floor of his office, and Mr. Lauer had his assistant take her to a nurse.

The woman told The Times that Mr. Lauer never made an advance toward her again and never mentioned what occurred in his office. She said she did not report the episode to NBC at the time because she believed she should have done more to stop Mr. Lauer. She left the network about a year later.

On Wednesday, the episode in Mr. Lauers office was reported to NBC News after the woman told her then-supervisor, who still works at the network. The woman said an NBC human resources representative had since contacted her.

The woman, who was in her early 40s at the time, told her then-husband about the encounter, which The Times confirmed with him in a phone call. The couple was separated at the time, and later divorced. She also described it to a friend five years ago, which the friend confirmed to The Times.


Hawt


WTF? Matt has been accused of RAPE too?


why would she randomly pass out, i don't get it
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eston
11/30/17 10:07:57 AM
#118:


Antifar posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
It's almost like sensible people wanted proof before jumping to conclusions


What was the basis of your claim there was no review or investigation, exactly?
Vyrulisse posted...
Not even a review or investigation. Someone decides they have an axe to grind all they have to do is claim sexual harassment and someone's career is over and their name sullied.Troubling.

Good question
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Ammonitida
11/30/17 10:08:54 AM
#119:


Fam_Fam posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
Antifar posted...
There's still more
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/business/media/nbc-matt-lauer.html
In 2001, the woman said, Mr. Lauer, who is married, asked her to his office to discuss a story during a workday. When she sat down, she said, he locked the door, which he could do by pressing a button while sitting at his desk. (People who worked at NBC said the button was a regular security measure installed for high-profile employees.)

The woman said Mr. Lauer asked her to unbutton her blouse, which she did. She said the anchor then stepped out from behind his desk, pulled down her pants, bent her over a chair and had intercourse with her. At some point, she said, she passed out with her pants pulled halfway down. She woke up on the floor of his office, and Mr. Lauer had his assistant take her to a nurse.

The woman told The Times that Mr. Lauer never made an advance toward her again and never mentioned what occurred in his office. She said she did not report the episode to NBC at the time because she believed she should have done more to stop Mr. Lauer. She left the network about a year later.

On Wednesday, the episode in Mr. Lauers office was reported to NBC News after the woman told her then-supervisor, who still works at the network. The woman said an NBC human resources representative had since contacted her.

The woman, who was in her early 40s at the time, told her then-husband about the encounter, which The Times confirmed with him in a phone call. The couple was separated at the time, and later divorced. She also described it to a friend five years ago, which the friend confirmed to The Times.


Hawt


WTF? Matt has been accused of RAPE too?


why would she randomly pass out, i don't get it


My take is that she was so traumatized that she fainted. I almost fainted from watching a cartel beheading video a long time ago (that was posted on facebook).
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Ammonitida
11/30/17 10:11:19 AM
#120:


jpenny2 posted...
So Lauer is apologizing now. Why would he do that if, like some in this topic have repeatedly stated, there was no proof and the women were lying?


Is he apologizing about the rape too? A pattern I see with these men is to apologize for any sexual harassment incidents, but flatly deny any rape accusations. Do any of these men have the balls to own up to being a RAPIST?
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eston
11/30/17 10:13:24 AM
#121:


Ammonitida posted...
jpenny2 posted...
So Lauer is apologizing now. Why would he do that if, like some in this topic have repeatedly stated, there was no proof and the women were lying?


Is he apologizing about the rape too? A pattern I see with these men is to apologize for any sexual harassment incidents, but flatly deny any rape accusations. Do any of these men have the balls to own up to being a RAPIST?

They'd have to be really fucking stupid to do that, since rape is something you can get locked up for whereas sexual harassment is not.
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Cocytus
11/30/17 10:23:31 AM
#122:


Vyrulisse posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Its amazing how much of this topic was people claiming that Lauer had been fired just because one person said he should, and now it turns out there was a huge report on his sexual misconduct and a colleague literally had an unsolicited dick pic from him.

It's almost like sensible people wanted proof before jumping to conclusions. I know it's a shocking concept but if you try really hard you'll understand.
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eston
11/30/17 10:33:25 AM
#123:


^ You're quoting someone who is just as guilty of jumping to conclusions
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Vyrulisse
11/30/17 10:34:44 AM
#124:


eston posted...
^ You're quoting someone who is just as guilty of jumping to conclusions

Regarding? Also my quote was correct in the context it was meant in so... it's okay to quote it if you also agree.

Edit: Don't bother, I'm done with this topic so don't waste your time answering.
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Cocytus
11/30/17 10:41:05 AM
#125:


eston is a gang banger who killed four people already...PROVE ME WRONG!
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eston
11/30/17 10:41:19 AM
#126:


Vyrulisse posted...
eston posted...
^ You're quoting someone who is just as guilty of jumping to conclusions

Regarding? Also my quote was correct in the context it was meant in so... it's okay to quote it if you also agree.

Edit: Don't bother, I'm done with this topic so don't waste your time answering.

In regards to there being no review or investigation. This was a huge assumption on your part, and is untrue.

And you can skip that shit about being done with the topic, we both know you'll be checking back for a response
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NinjaWarrior455
11/30/17 11:00:02 AM
#127:


What's even more sad than the people that were calling the woman a liar are the people that are making this a partisan issue.
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