Current Events > Does Trump have a mental illness?

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like anyone on CE knows. we aren't doctors or have access to his psychiatry file

Diagnosed? Who knows. I doubt it. Undiagnosed? Likely.
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We don't know. We can hazard a guess though.

From what I understand, 'experts' have at least pegged him as a narcissist.

No, he's just a blithering imbecile.
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He's just an old man

I don't think terminal douchebaggery is a mental illness
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Other than being a classic narcissist, probably not. He's clearly of average-below average intelligence though.
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tote_all posted...

personality disorders have to be disruptive in the person's life or in other's lives in order to actually be disorders.

I'm actually not sure that is true. I'm fairly certain there is a lot of well documented sociopaths in positions of authority throughout history.

Pretty impressive for someone mentally ill to make billions of dollars, become a reality TV star, and get elected president. He'd rival only Forrest Gump with those achievements.
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tote_all posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

I'm actually not sure that is true. I'm fairly certain there is a lot of well documented sociopaths in positions of authority throughout history.

And how did their sociopathy come to be well documented?

Because it was obivous?

The original post was that a personality disorder has to greatly disrupt someone's life, and therefore Trump couldn't be elected and have a disorder. I was pointing out that people have succeeded in their careers/ambitions and still been utterly broken people.

only "mental" illness he has is White Supremacy and Kleptocracy so if you count those two as illnesses.....
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Trump has dementia or alzheimers and he could def get elected and have it look at reagan
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Yes...he's got a severe case of AMERICA and it ain't lookin' like it's gonna get any better soon!
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i mean he's a fairly blatant raging narcissist
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The Admiral posted...

Pretty impressive for someone mentally ill to make billions of dollars, become a reality TV star, and get elected president. He'd rival only Forrest Gump with those achievements.

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he's clearly unwell. So are a lot of his supporters tbh
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The Admiral posted...

Pretty impressive for someone mentally ill to make billions of dollars, become a reality TV star, and get elected president. He'd rival only Forrest Gump with those achievements.

I mean, sociopathy and narcissism are things you see among some successful people. I was unaware all mental illness manifested as Forrest Gump behavior. Idiots can be born into money and being a heartless piece of shit can allow you to do things others wouldn't dare do. We live in a world where the Kardashians are rich and famous and celebrities are being outed as perverted assholes every other day. And you're here wondering how someone could possibly succeed if he isn't highly intelligent and mentally sound. At the very least, Trump is deteriorating with age.
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The Admiral posted...

Pretty impressive for someone mentally ill to make billions of dollars, become a reality TV star, and get elected president. He'd rival only Forrest Gump with those achievements.

citation needed
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Until that fucker provides his tax returns his money is unknown
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Plus you aren't born with every single mental illness
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This topic fails at being progressive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentalism_(discrimination)

Mentalism or sanism is a form of discrimination and oppression against a mental trait or condition a person has, or is judged to have. This discrimination may or may not be described in terms of mental disorder or cognitive impairment. The discrimination is based on numerous factors such as: stereotypes about neurodivergence (e.g. autism, learning disorders, ADHD, bipolar, schizophrenia, personality disorder diagnoses), specific behavioral phenomena (e.g. stuttering, tics), or intellectual disability.

Like other "isms" such as sexism and racism, mentalism involves multiple intersecting forms of oppression, complex social inequalities and imbalances of power. It can result in covert discrimination by multiple, small insults and indignities. It is characterized by judgments of another person's perceived mental health status. These judgments are followed by actions such as blatant, overt discrimination which may include refusal of service, or the denial of human rights. Mentalism impacts how individuals are treated by the general public, by mental health professionals, and by institutions, including the legal system. The negative attitudes involved may also be internalized.
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No, he's just stupid.
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The Admiral posted...

Pretty impressive for someone mentally ill to make billions of dollars, become a reality TV star, and get elected president. He'd rival only Forrest Gump with those achievements.

I mean he probably wasnt ill for the first two, and then Russia did the last one for him.
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I think he's just a troll tbh
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Dash_Harber posted...

tote_all posted...

personality disorders have to be disruptive in the person's life or in other's lives in order to actually be disorders.

I'm actually not sure that is true. I'm fairly certain there is a lot of well documented sociopaths in positions of authority throughout history.

Its true as far as the DSM definition is concerned. I was diagnosed with one a few years back and no longer am. Of course personality disorders in particular are an infant stage field of study and diagnosis. They redid the DSM just last year mostly so the diagnoses of them weren't so bad.

Anyway to your point toteall I'd argue that like many individuals, the American people hadn't gotten to know Trump and ate now stuck in an unhealthy relationship with him, not necessarily negating the personality disorder itself.
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tony-schwartz-donald-trump-mental-health_us_5a1f694ce4b0a8581e67e599
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The Admiral posted...

Pretty impressive for someone mentally ill to make billions of dollars, become a reality TV star, and get elected president.

Not when you consider that he was born into immense wealth, has pissed away plenty of money due to various failures and lawsuits, and found himself under nonstop scrutiny due to all his snafus and scandals. He's playing on super easy mode and has still created countless problems for himself. That's far from impressive.
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Is Affluence a mental disorder?

not unless you consider narcissistic trolling to be mental illness. i feel like trump just likes to take the piss out of everyone and feed off the attention (good and bad) that he receives.
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He's clearly got some narcissism issues, but he's likely suffering from Alzheimer's at this point too.
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A lot of armchair doctors in the house.
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The way he just starts rambling, repeating himself, and quickly changeing subjects is evidence of a senior citizen losing their mind.
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I'd venture a guess he's starting to get dementia or Alzheimer's.

Well you know in addition to being a MASSIVE narcissist.

Dude's clearly got SOMETHING wrong with him. This isn't how normal people act.
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The Admiral posted...

Pretty impressive for someone mentally ill to make billions of dollars, become a reality TV star, and get elected president. He'd rival only Forrest Gump with those achievements.

Ah, yes. I love it when cultists use that talking point. It shows their lack of connection to reality when they claim that someone who repeatedly went bankrupt because of his inability to sell football, steak, and gambling to Americans is somehow a great businessman. Good on him for clearing the low bar needed to be a reality TV star. Can anyone say President Kardashian? How about Honey Boo Boo in a few decades?

Trump's an old school carnie, like his buddy Vince McMahon. His rise to the Presidency definitely embodies a saying attributed to the most famous carnie of all, P.T. Barnum.

Beyond that, Trump's story could easily be told as a tragedy. He was born into wealth, and lived a rather middling and useless existence, all things considered. Towards the end of that existence, his ego landed him in the first real job he's ever had in his life. He now has to deal with people who will tell him "no", another thing he's never had to deal with. The man is over 70 and in poor physical shape, not to mention well past the age where his family history of dementia starts kicking in. It's clear at this point that the engine is running but there's nobody behind the wheel. His mental state is increasingly deteriorating, and the stress from this job is likely going to kill him.

He'd be a rather sympathetic figure if he hadn't spent his entire life being a colossal dick to literally everyone he came across.
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"Reality TV star" despite the fact that the Celebrity Apprentice was tanking in the ratings and being aired 15 months after filming, and it was during the dead TV season in January and February....
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The Admiral posted...

Pretty impressive for someone mentally ill to make billions of dollars, become a reality TV star, and get elected president. He'd rival only Forrest Gump with those achievements.

Here here, somebody else you can worship for becoming a reality star:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/jerseyshoremtv/images/c/c6/MikeS6.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121224173705

BTW, inheriting money is an achievement now? LMAO. In all seriousness, you need to find better people to worship.

RaptorLC posted...

The Admiral posted...

Pretty impressive for someone mentally ill to make billions of dollars, become a reality TV star, and get elected president. He'd rival only Forrest Gump with those achievements.

Ah, yes. I love it when cultists use that talking point. It shows their lack of connection to reality when they claim that someone who repeatedly went bankrupt because of his inability to sell football, steak, and gambling to Americans is somehow a great businessman. Good on him for clearing the low bar needed to be a reality TV star. Can anyone say President Kardashian? How about Honey Boo Boo in a few decades?

Trump's an old school carnie, like his buddy Vince McMahon. His rise to the Presidency definitely embodies a saying attributed to the most famous carnie of all, P.T. Barnum.

Beyond that, Trump's story could easily be told as a tragedy. He was born into wealth, and lived a rather middling and useless existence, all things considered. Towards the end of that existence, his ego landed him in the first real job he's ever had in his life. He now has to deal with people who will tell him "no", another thing he's never had to deal with. The man is over 70 and in poor physical shape, not to mention well past the age where his family history of dementia starts kicking in. It's clear at this point that the engine is running but there's nobody behind the wheel. His mental state is increasingly deteriorating, and the stress from this job is likely going to kill him.

He'd be a rather sympathetic figure if he hadn't spent his entire life being a colossal dick to literally everyone he came across.

Ouch. This is a surgical takedown of both 45 and his fan sadmiral. Sadmiral grudge aside this is a truly impressive post.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/49537438/apply-memes-to-rekt-area.jpg

RaptorLC posted...

The Admiral posted...

Pretty impressive for someone mentally ill to make billions of dollars, become a reality TV star, and get elected president. He'd rival only Forrest Gump with those achievements.

Ah, yes. I love it when cultists use that talking point. It shows their lack of connection to reality when they claim that someone who repeatedly went bankrupt because of his inability to sell football, steak, and gambling to Americans is somehow a great businessman. Good on him for clearing the low bar needed to be a reality TV star. Can anyone say President Kardashian? How about Honey Boo Boo in a few decades?

Trump's an old school carnie, like his buddy Vince McMahon. His rise to the Presidency definitely embodies a saying attributed to the most famous carnie of all, P.T. Barnum.

Beyond that, Trump's story could easily be told as a tragedy. He was born into wealth, and lived a rather middling and useless existence, all things considered. Towards the end of that existence, his ego landed him in the first real job he's ever had in his life. He now has to deal with people who will tell him "no", another thing he's never had to deal with. The man is over 70 and in poor physical shape, not to mention well past the age where his family history of dementia starts kicking in. It's clear at this point that the engine is running but there's nobody behind the wheel. His mental state is increasingly deteriorating, and the stress from this job is likely going to kill him.

He'd be a rather sympathetic figure if he hadn't spent his entire life being a colossal dick to literally everyone he came across.

Well done.
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A lead moderator shouldn't be getting involved in heavy political discussion since there is a clear conflict of interest and/or possible skewed moderations that could occur in the topic. Unprofessional. Then he calls all Trump supporters "cultists" as if - that won't trigger conservatives. You've got a lead moderator trolling people out here. What kind of message does this send to the rest of the users?

Get on an alt, Raptor. Or step down. Very unprofessional.
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Caution998 posted...

A lead moderator shouldn't be getting involved in heavy political discussion since there is a clear conflict of interest and/or possible skewed moderations that could occur in the topic. Unprofessional. Then he calls all Trump supporters "cultists" as if - that won't trigger conservatives. You've got a lead moderator trolling people out here. What kind of message does this send to the rest of the users?

Get on an alt, Raptor. Or step down. Very unprofessional.

Shut the fuck up you whiny little shit weasel
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Did your keyboard manage to survive that blast of anger?
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Caution998 posted...

Did your keyboard manage to survive that blast of anger?

Does your throat still work even with that heavy coat of orange semen?
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Caution998 posted...

A lead moderator shouldn't be getting involved in heavy political discussion since there is a clear conflict of interest and/or possible skewed moderations that could occur in the topic. Unprofessional. Then he calls all Trump supporters "cultists" as if - that won't trigger conservatives. You've got a lead moderator trolling people out here. What kind of message does this send to the rest of the users?

Get on an alt, Raptor. Or step down. Very unprofessional.

LITERALLY suggesting people hide under alts to do stuff. How ironic to talk about professionalism.

NadYobWoc posted...

Caution998 posted...

Did your keyboard manage to survive that blast of anger?

Does your throat still work even with that heavy coat of orange (redacted)?

HAHAHAHAHAH

Dude: You have some serious issues.

I'm just calling Raptor out on what I felt was trolling. I may be wrong, but I felt it should be said.
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