Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 152: Stop splitting the timeline.

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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 11:18:39 AM
#452:


TheRock1525 posted...
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But I would trade about anything in the world to end the war on drugs. (But not the war on heroin or meth)


This is impressively dumb, even for you.


You don't want to end the war on drugs?
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TheRock1525
12/02/17 11:21:48 AM
#453:


Heroin and Meth are drugs. You can't end the war on drugs without ending the war on them, too. You know, since they're drugs.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 11:27:34 AM
#454:


TheRock1525 posted...
Heroin and Meth are drugs. You can't end the war on drugs without ending the war on them, too. You know, since they're drugs.


Other drugs most of the time won't kill you and destroy your family and everything you love....

Heroin will.
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TheRock1525
12/02/17 11:29:16 AM
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SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
Other drugs most of the time won't kill you and destroy your family and everything you love....


You really think crack cocaine can't do that?

Also I note you now singled out heroin and left out meth.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 11:34:13 AM
#456:


TheRock1525 posted...
SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
Other drugs most of the time won't kill you and destroy your family and everything you love....


You really think crack cocaine can't do that?

Also I note you now singled out heroin and left out meth.


Any drug can do that... (I mean pot can't kill you, but everything else it can for sure.)

Heroin and meth WILL do that (meth is probbaly even worse of the two).
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Dancedreamer
12/02/17 11:37:27 AM
#457:


War on Drugs is basically prohibition with... well drugs. People will do them legal or not.

Just like Prostitution. (Which should also be legal, though obviously human trafficking would still be 100% illegal)
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 11:40:12 AM
#458:


Dancedreamer posted...
War on Drugs is basically prohibition with... well drugs. People will do them legal or not.

Just like Prostitution. (Which should also be legal, though obviously human trafficking would still be 100% illegal)


Yup. 18/21 (depending on area) prostitution should absolutely be legal.
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DeathChicken
12/02/17 11:46:21 AM
#459:


Also like most drug war related things, busting someone for intent to sell heroin is all well and good. If you're busting someone for possession of heroin, odds are they're fully addicted and you're accomplishing jack shit by prosecuting them
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charmander6000
12/02/17 11:51:44 AM
#460:


You can still have laws on selling/trafficking drugs. Users on the other hand need better funded harm reduction programs.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 11:52:07 AM
#461:


DeathChicken posted...
Also like most drug war related things, busting someone for intent to sell heroin is all well and good. If you're busting someone for possession of heroin, odds are they're fully addicted and you're accomplishing jack shit by prosecuting them


Thought that was pretty well implied..
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Nelson_Mandela
12/02/17 11:53:09 AM
#462:


DeathChicken posted...
lol he literally can't answer what tax savings this plan even conveys. You'd get more credible posting from Full Throttle

Literally posted 4 messages of replies and a business insider link that outlines the average savings for each income bracket
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DeathChicken
12/02/17 11:54:26 AM
#463:


Not really? War on Drugs as is doesn't particularly give a crap whether you're buying or selling, it's all in the name of shoving more money into for-profit prison. Stating that they should stay the course in regard to heroin implies they should continue not giving a crap
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TheRock1525
12/02/17 11:55:37 AM
#464:


BTW, people thinking this will kick the economy into overdrive:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/corporate-tax-cuts-wont-spur-ceos-to-invest-say-ceos.html

Nothing will happen, cuts will be made to programs that help poor and middle class families, which in turn will spend less, which in turn will cause another economic downturn while income inequality continues to grow because they're going to use these tax cuts to buy back stock and give CEOs pay raises.
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TheRock1525
12/02/17 11:56:28 AM
#465:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
DeathChicken posted...
lol he literally can't answer what tax savings this plan even conveys. You'd get more credible posting from Full Throttle

Literally posted 4 messages of replies and a business insider link that outlines the average savings for each income bracket


Unless you're a family of 4 making $25k or less, in which case your taxes increase.
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TheRock1525
12/02/17 12:03:23 PM
#466:


BTW, SephG keeps ignoring how everyone's taxes will go up for people making below $75k by 2027.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2017/11/2300-taxratechange2.jpg
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charmander6000
12/02/17 12:07:35 PM
#467:


That'll be the Democrats fault since they will be president at that time.
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TheRock1525
12/02/17 12:09:47 PM
#468:


charmander6000 posted...
That'll be the Democrats fault since they will be president at that time.


I wonder how much more trick-down economics we need until people finally get fed up with it? Given table scraps that don't even last while there's a growing inequality, and neither Democrats nor Republicans will do squat about it.
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Not_an_Owl
12/02/17 12:14:03 PM
#469:


TheRock1525 posted...
BTW, people thinking this will kick the economy into overdrive:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/corporate-tax-cuts-wont-spur-ceos-to-invest-say-ceos.html

Nothing will happen, cuts will be made to programs that help poor and middle class families, which in turn will spend less, which in turn will cause another economic downturn while income inequality continues to grow because they're going to use these tax cuts to buy back stock and give CEOs pay raises.

Can't wait for the impending recession!
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 12:14:14 PM
#470:


For people who say trickle down doesn't work (it seriously does)

How does one POSSIBLY explain the Regan years being the best we've been economically since, what, pre WW1?
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ChaosTonyV4
12/02/17 12:17:06 PM
#471:


SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
For people who say trickle down doesn't work (it seriously does)

How does one POSSIBLY explain the Regan years being the best we've been economically since, what, pre WW1?


Uh, link?
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scarletspeed7
12/02/17 12:26:45 PM
#472:


I can think of two other eras where we had stronger economic growth.
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Mr Lasastryke
12/02/17 12:26:52 PM
#473:


SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
How does one POSSIBLY explain the Regan years being the best we've been economically since, what, pre WW1?


uh... you're aware of the '80s recession, right?
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Inviso
12/02/17 12:30:22 PM
#474:


Didn't the Reagan years leave the country in such a bad state that George H.W. Bush had to go back on his campaign promise and raise taxes (like a fiscally responsible person SHOULD fucking do.) Seriously, why the fuck did H.W. have to go and be revealed as another man in power with busy hands. He was literally one of the presidents I respected the most.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 12:31:02 PM
#475:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
How does one POSSIBLY explain the Regan years being the best we've been economically since, what, pre WW1?


uh... you're aware of the '80s recession, right?


You mean the one that was there when he started.... and by 88 we had virtually lapped every significant metric in history both to that time and still ever....?

More people made more money, fewer people made less money, GDP went up, and on and on and on... the only thing one can argue is our debt went up, but that just seems to be what happens now... is love someone to stop that someday....

What did Reagan do? Supply side economics (trickle down to people who don't understand what the fuck it actually is so try to demean the best thing this country ever did) and he is the ONLY President in a long while that didn't raise minimum wage... imagine that.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 12:32:19 PM
#476:


Inviso posted...
Didn't the Reagan years leave the country in such a bad state that George H.W. Bush had to go back on his campaign promise and raise taxes (like a fiscally responsible person SHOULD fucking do.) Seriously, why the fuck did H.W. have to go and be revealed as another man in power with busy hands. He was literally one of the presidents I respected the most.


No...
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LapisLazuli
12/02/17 12:33:31 PM
#477:


Reagan was a nightmare president.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 12:36:03 PM
#478:


LapisLazuli posted...
Reagan was a nightmare president.


If you hate America... yup. Absolutely.

He's undoubtably better than everyone else except Washington, Jefferson, and maybe Quincy Adams and Lincoln
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 12:37:39 PM
#479:


The ONLY thing you can maybe unbiased say wasn't best idea ever would be the War on Drugs.... which is more of a hindsight thing actually. Most people were all for it then, but after seeing the repercussions for 30+ years... unfortunately no one is perfect.
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DeathChicken
12/02/17 12:45:43 PM
#480:


Reagan was so deep into his Alzheimers by the second term meetings were being called to determine what the hell they were supposed to do if the President no longer has mental capacity
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DeathChicken
12/02/17 12:59:06 PM
#481:


And Trump just jumped on Twitter to announce that he was aware of Flynn's perjury when he told Comey to let the investigation go. Um...
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 1:01:07 PM
#482:


DeathChicken posted...
And Trump just jumped on Twitter to announce that he was aware of Flynn's perjury when he told Comey to let the investigation go. Um...


WHY DONT THEY TAKE TWITTER FROM HIM!???
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LapisLazuli
12/02/17 1:03:12 PM
#483:


I assume because they want him saying shit like this to fuck himself over, lol.
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TheRock1525
12/02/17 1:04:32 PM
#484:


SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
For people who say trickle down doesn't work (it seriously does)

How does one POSSIBLY explain the Regan years being the best we've been economically since, what, pre WW1?


Clinton, Kennedy, and Johnson all had greater GDP than Reagan.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 1:05:03 PM
#485:


LapisLazuli posted...
I assume because they want him saying shit like this to fuck himself over, lol.


Who?
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TheRock1525
12/02/17 1:05:46 PM
#486:


SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
I assume because they want him saying shit like this to fuck himself over, lol.


Who?


Maybe Kelly?
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 1:06:43 PM
#487:


TheRock1525 posted...
SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
For people who say trickle down doesn't work (it seriously does)

How does one POSSIBLY explain the Regan years being the best we've been economically since, what, pre WW1?


Clinton, Kennedy, and Johnson all had greater GDP than Reagan.


And...
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FFDragon
12/02/17 1:07:09 PM
#488:


DeathChicken posted...
And Trump just jumped on Twitter to announce that he was aware of Flynn's perjury when he told Comey to let the investigation go. Um...


I thought you were joking.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/937007006526959618

I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!


Like... why would you ever say that?
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 1:07:17 PM
#489:


TheRock1525 posted...
SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
I assume because they want him saying shit like this to fuck himself over, lol.


Who?


Maybe Kelly?


What advantage does that give her?
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TheRock1525
12/02/17 1:07:59 PM
#490:


If you want to go job growth, Clinton, Carter, and Johnson all outperformed Reagan.
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TheRock1525
12/02/17 1:08:26 PM
#491:


SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
I assume because they want him saying shit like this to fuck himself over, lol.


Who?


Maybe Kelly?


What advantage does that give her?


Chief of Staff John Kelly.
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Inviso
12/02/17 1:08:29 PM
#492:


SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
I assume because they want him saying shit like this to fuck himself over, lol.


Who?


Maybe Kelly?


What advantage does that give her?


Kelly is referring to John Kelly, not Kellyanne Conway.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 1:10:42 PM
#493:


Inviso posted...
SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
I assume because they want him saying shit like this to fuck himself over, lol.


Who?


Maybe Kelly?


What advantage does that give her?


Kelly is referring to John Kelly, not Kellyanne Conway.


Ok. Thank you.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 1:12:33 PM
#494:


Do we go finish up Corriks 151 first, or do we go to the153?

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/76047415
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Inviso
12/02/17 1:13:20 PM
#495:


As for your "Who?" question, I assume Republican leadership. Trump is a perfect distraction for them to get away with harmful shit, and better yet, if he ever reaches the point where he's so bad that even his supporters start turning on him, they have plenty of proof and reasoning as to why the need to impeach him.
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Inviso
12/02/17 1:14:14 PM
#496:


SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
Do we go finish up Corriks 151 first, or do we go to the153?

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/76047415


I say just finish Corrik's then make a new 153 with a legitimate, topical title. End this weird division we have going on.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/02/17 1:15:36 PM
#497:


Inviso posted...
SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
Do we go finish up Corriks 151 first, or do we go to the153?

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/76047415


I say just finish Corrik's then make a new 153 with a legitimate, topical title. End this weird division we have going on.


Poor Moogle...
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FFDragon
12/02/17 1:16:00 PM
#498:


leave corrik to his bubble tbqh imo
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VeryInsane
12/02/17 1:20:40 PM
#499:


I like the Corrik containment topic

Tax bill pretty much sucks but I figured it would happen when Trump won. D:
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VeryInsane
12/02/17 1:21:02 PM
#500:


Play Hearthstone or Warcraft 3
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