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Capn Circus posted...

GeneralZhao posted...

fuck every person who voted yes to that inane bill

If you get money from it, just donate it.

You mean save it for the increase a year later.
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Capn Circus posted...

GeneralZhao posted...

fuck every person who voted yes to that inane bill

If you get money from it

I'm not
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Bishop9800 posted...

Capn Circus posted...

If you get money from it, just donate it.

And if we don't? (Which is more likely to happen)

Well, the majority of Americans will be receiving a cut. It should also be noted that to receive a cut you have to pay taxes in the first place. So, maybe some people on CE won't qualify. I don't know. I don't know everyone's financial situation.
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i get a 3% tax cut. trump wins again.
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The thought of three, potentially seven more years of this administration is just depressing.
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Does this mean tuition waivers count as taxable income now?
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Yay, i get a tax increase!
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Lmao. Liberals are wrong. If we didn't pass this tax bill how will rich people pay off their lambos?
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Bishop9800 posted...

The real question is, how many people in the House and Senate just lost their jobs?

Pretty sure that the only ones at risk are those who voted NO.
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JlM posted...

ledbowman posted...

This is the shit that actually bothers me. The actual Tax shit is whatever.

But the whole thing is loaded with absolutely rotten pork. And that's only from what we've seen. Who knows what's in the chicken scratch scrawled in the margins.

Yeah, that is pretty just entirely awful.
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EternalDivide posted...

The individual mandate is going down.
I couldn't give one damn about anything else in this thing. I just want that mandate gone.
Now of course this has to make it's way through the rest of the way but thank god. This is an amazing first step.

What the Fuck is wrong with you? How can you hate other people so much?
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This hurts the middle class and poor. Anyone who supports it is a piece of shit.
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XplodnPnguins92 posted...

i get a 3% tax cut. trump wins again.

He wins until our national debt increased and the next democrat has to try to fix his mess.
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allowing drilling in the arctic national wildlife refuge is also something slipped into the bill.
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Fuck our environment. As long as the rich can hunt lions and drill to become richer, screw the rest of the planet.
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Good
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Why are leftists such drama queens lmao
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This is a beautiful thing to wake up to. MAGA

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/936713881711529986
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Making America great again.
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Raises taxes on the lower and middle class while cutting taxes for the rich and corporations.

Explodes the deficit.

Fucks over gead students

Had to be voted on in the middle of the night while the bill WAS STILL BEING WRITTEN.

Absolutely disgraceful.
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we have too many poor people. natural selection will bring balance
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DragonGirlYuki posted...

Good the individual mandate is gone.

Get ready for your premiums to skyrocket

GeneralZhao posted...

fuck every person who voted yes to that inane bill

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sktgamer_13dude posted...

It was voted on before people had time to read it and actually learn what it does.

What a joke.

Worked great for the Affordable Care Act
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Coffeebeanz posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

It was voted on before people had time to read it and actually learn what it does.

What a joke.

Worked great for the Affordable Care Act

Didn't they have three weeks to review that before the vote?
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hollow_shrine posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

It was voted on before people had time to read it and actually learn what it does.

What a joke.

Worked great for the Affordable Care Act

Didn't they have three weeks to review that before the vote?

It wasn't even fully written when they voted on it.

Politicians are politicians. Doesn't matter whether it's a D or an R. They're all sleazy.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

hollow_shrine posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

It was voted on before people had time to read it and actually learn what it does.

What a joke.

Worked great for the Affordable Care Act

Didn't they have three weeks to review that before the vote?

It wasn't even fully written when they voted on it.

Politicians are politicians. Doesn't matter whether it's a D or an R. They're all sleazy.

Yep, Dems are sleazy when they give health insurance to everyone, Republicans are sleazy when they Rob the country in the middle of the night. Same thing right?
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The ACA was available for quite some time before voting on it.

Please don't spread lies lol.
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nicklebro posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

hollow_shrine posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

It was voted on before people had time to read it and actually learn what it does.

What a joke.

Worked great for the Affordable Care Act

Didn't they have three weeks to review that before the vote?

It wasn't even fully written when they voted on it.

Politicians are politicians. Doesn't matter whether it's a D or an R. They're all sleazy.

Yep, Dems are sleazy when they give health insurance to everyone, Republicans are sleazy when they Rob the country in the middle of the night. Same thing right?

Give insurance to everyone by forcing them to buy it while simultaneously reducing health insurance competition and allowing deductibles to skyrocket so high that the insurance plans aren't even worth the paper they're printed on?

But what do I know. I'm sure you went to super-med school or something.

Everyone has insurance! (Pity about those $10k deductibles, though)
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Coffeebeanz posted...

nicklebro posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

hollow_shrine posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

It was voted on before people had time to read it and actually learn what it does.

What a joke.

Worked great for the Affordable Care Act

Didn't they have three weeks to review that before the vote?

It wasn't even fully written when they voted on it.

Politicians are politicians. Doesn't matter whether it's a D or an R. They're all sleazy.

Yep, Dems are sleazy when they give health insurance to everyone, Republicans are sleazy when they Rob the country in the middle of the night. Same thing right?

Give insurance to everyone by forcing them to buy it while simultaneously reducing health insurance competition and allowing premiums to skyrocket so high that the insurance plans aren't even worth the paper they're printed on?

But what do I know. I'm sure you went to super-med school or something.

rekt
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Coffeebeanz posted...

nicklebro posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

hollow_shrine posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

It was voted on before people had time to read it and actually learn what it does.

What a joke.

Worked great for the Affordable Care Act

Didn't they have three weeks to review that before the vote?

It wasn't even fully written when they voted on it.

Politicians are politicians. Doesn't matter whether it's a D or an R. They're all sleazy.

Yep, Dems are sleazy when they give health insurance to everyone, Republicans are sleazy when they Rob the country in the middle of the night. Same thing right?

Give insurance to everyone by forcing them to buy it while simultaneously reducing health insurance competition and allowing deductibles to skyrocket so high that the insurance plans aren't even worth the paper they're printed on?

But what do I know. I'm sure you went to super-med school or something.

Everyone has insurance! (Pity about those $10k deductibles, though)

Yeah sucks a small minority of people had to pay more, and the thousands of lives of that were saved were probably useless libruls anyways.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

It was voted on before people had time to read it and actually learn what it does.

What a joke.

Worked great for the Affordable Care Act

Uh...using that argument, wouldn't it be kind of stupid to support this current bill when the aca had so much criticism? Why support another group who does the exact same thing?
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Going to be a lot of "accidental" miscarriages and unwanted pregnancies.

When are we going to overturn McCollum v The Board of Education, Engel v Vitale, Abington v. Schempp and all the Religious bills now and make America a cult? Let's just get it over with.
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Saying health insurance access improves healthcare access is kind of ridiculous when your deductibles are more expensive than your previous plans' premiums.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

nicklebro posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

hollow_shrine posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

It was voted on before people had time to read it and actually learn what it does.

What a joke.

Worked great for the Affordable Care Act

Didn't they have three weeks to review that before the vote?

It wasn't even fully written when they voted on it.

Politicians are politicians. Doesn't matter whether it's a D or an R. They're all sleazy.

Yep, Dems are sleazy when they give health insurance to everyone, Republicans are sleazy when they Rob the country in the middle of the night. Same thing right?

Give insurance to everyone by forcing them to buy it while simultaneously reducing health insurance competition and allowing deductibles to skyrocket so high that the insurance plans aren't even worth the paper they're printed on?

But what do I know. I'm sure you went to super-med school or something.

Everyone has insurance! (Pity about those $10k deductibles, though)

I'm a pharmacy student and, like always, you're just blowing smoke out your ass every time you talk about this. I'll see you when premiums skyrocket after the effects of the individual mandate being revoked take place and 13 million people lose their insurance.
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The bill also contains amendments that allows fetuses to inherit wealth (more importantly enshrines the idea that life begins at conception in law) and also one that allows churches to endorse political candidates.

Librul tears tho guyz
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Coffeebeanz posted...

Saying health insurance access improves healthcare access is kind of ridiculous when your deductibles are more expensive than your previous plans' premiums.

Just like it's ridiculous to say that we should just let poor people die. There's no perfect solution when it comes to trying to keep 300 million people healthy, of course it's going to cost money. A lot like this tax reform. Thing is if I have to pay for one thing for this country, keeping people alive would literally be the top of the list. Idk how you could say something else is more important.
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Doom_Art posted...

The bill also contains amendments that allows fetuses to inherit wealth (more importantly enshrines the idea that life begins at conception in law) and also one that allows churches to endorse political candidates.

Librul tears tho guyz

Just like the republicans that voted yes, they didn't read any of it.
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It's like saying car insurance is now free, but you have to pay $100 every time you drive.
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nicklebro posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

Saying health insurance access improves healthcare access is kind of ridiculous when your deductibles are more expensive than your previous plans' premiums.

Just like it's ridiculous to say that we should just let poor people die. There's no perfect solution when it comes to trying to keep 300 million people healthy, of course it's going to cost money. A lot like this tax reform. Thing is if I have to pay for one thing for this country, keeping people alive would literally be the top of the list. Idk how you could say something else is more important.

Single payer, bro.
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Doom_Art posted...

The bill also contains amendments that allows fetuses to inherit wealth (more importantly enshrines the idea that life begins at conception in law) and also one that allows churches to endorse political candidates.

Librul tears tho guyz

What's wrong with that?
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

Doom_Art posted...

The bill also contains amendments that allows fetuses to inherit wealth (more importantly enshrines the idea that life begins at conception in law) and also one that allows churches to endorse political candidates.

Librul tears tho guyz

What's wrong with that?

Spoilers: It doesn't.
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ledbowman posted...

Thats the definition of unborn child thats used (and supported by liberals) in cases where a pregnant woman is murdered, or if shes assaulted and that results in a miscarriage. This is not as controversial as youd like it to be.

This language is also specific to inheritance transfers. Nothing to do with abortion.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

nicklebro posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

Saying health insurance access improves healthcare access is kind of ridiculous when your deductibles are more expensive than your previous plans' premiums.

Just like it's ridiculous to say that we should just let poor people die. There's no perfect solution when it comes to trying to keep 300 million people healthy, of course it's going to cost money. A lot like this tax reform. Thing is if I have to pay for one thing for this country, keeping people alive would literally be the top of the list. Idk how you could say something else is more important.

Single payer, bro.

Not perfect, but yeah I'd say it's preferable to the "let them die" strategy.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

nicklebro posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

Saying health insurance access improves healthcare access is kind of ridiculous when your deductibles are more expensive than your previous plans' premiums.

Just like it's ridiculous to say that we should just let poor people die. There's no perfect solution when it comes to trying to keep 300 million people healthy, of course it's going to cost money. A lot like this tax reform. Thing is if I have to pay for one thing for this country, keeping people alive would literally be the top of the list. Idk how you could say something else is more important.

Single payer, bro.

At least we (seemingly) agree on one thing.
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The Admiral posted...

ledbowman posted...

Thats the definition of unborn child thats used (and supported by liberals) in cases where a pregnant woman is murdered, or if shes assaulted and that results in a miscarriage. This is not as controversial as youd like it to be.

Indeed, from what I understand it is fake news. Tho can't blame us for having suspicious hippo eyes with how religious nuts seem to slip anti abortion nonsense into legislation.
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nicklebro posted...

Just like it's ridiculous to say that we should just let poor people die. There's no perfect solution when it comes to trying to keep 300 million people healthy, of course it's going to cost money. A lot like this tax reform. Thing is if I have to pay for one thing for this country, keeping people alive would literally be the top of the list. Idk how you could say something else is more important.

My issue is that the ACA disproportionately hurt working Americans making less than $40,000/year through the employer mandate and insane deductibles. It is to the point that small businesses (fewer than 500 employees) literally can't afford to insure their employees and remain open, and has been since the law went into full effect. This forces them to make all their positions fewer than 30 hours a week. (Note, small businesses of this type account for over half of all jobs in America.) If they were to fail instead, which is what a lot of liberals will say should happen, we would experience the worst economic depression that we've ever seen or likely will ever see.
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nicklebro posted...

The Admiral posted...

ledbowman posted...

Thats the definition of unborn child thats used (and supported by liberals) in cases where a pregnant woman is murdered, or if shes assaulted and that results in a miscarriage. This is not as controversial as youd like it to be.

Indeed, from what I understand it is fake news. Tho can't blame us for having suspicious hippo eyes with how religious nuts seem to slip anti abortion nonsense into legislation.

It's not nonsense.
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When does the bill go effective?
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

It's not nonsense.

To everyone who isn't a religious loony it is. :v We know what side of the camp you're on though Bourbon.
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