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s0nicfan 12/05/17 1:04:25 PM #51:	mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... What is incorrect about that statement? The part where it includes non-muslims. What does that have to do with the travel ban's intent? Everything? Even YOU are calling it the "travel ban" and not the "muslim ban" like slate is, so at some level you already understand that there's a difference between the two. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:891636804] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote>What is incorrect about that statement?</quote> The part where it includes non-muslims.</quote> What does that have to do with the travel ban's intent?</quote> Everything? Even YOU are calling it the "travel ban" and not the "muslim ban" like slate is, so at some level you already understand that there's a difference between the two.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 12/05/17 1:07:58 PM #52:	The simple fact of the matter is that people only oppose this because it's Trump doing it. When Obama had a travel ban on African countries to protect from Ebola, did you hear everyone screaming that it was racist? Keeping dangerous people out of the country is kind of the government's job. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:891637027] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote>The simple fact of the matter is that people only oppose this because it's Trump doing it. When Obama had a travel ban on African countries to protect from Ebola, did you hear everyone screaming that it was racist? Keeping dangerous people out of the country is kind of the government's job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/05/17 1:19:15 PM #53:	r4X0r posted... When Obama had a travel ban on African countries to protect from Ebola, did you hear everyone screaming that it was racist? Yes Virginia, there is such a thing as stupid questions. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:891637635] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>When Obama had a travel ban on African countries to protect from Ebola, did you hear everyone screaming that it was racist?</quote> Yes Virginia, there is such a thing as stupid questions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 12/05/17 1:54:39 PM #54:	s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... What is incorrect about that statement? The part where it includes non-muslims. What does that have to do with the travel ban's intent? Everything? Even YOU are calling it the "travel ban" and not the "muslim ban" like slate is, so at some level you already understand that there's a difference between the two. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:891639789] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote>What is incorrect about that statement?</quote> The part where it includes non-muslims.</quote> What does that have to do with the travel ban's intent?</quote> Everything? Even YOU are calling it the "travel ban" and not the "muslim ban" like slate is, so at some level you already understand that there's a difference between the two.</quote> Those two things are not mutually exclusive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 12/05/17 2:26:05 PM #55:	r4X0r posted... The simple fact of the matter is that people only oppose this because it's Trump doing it. When Obama had a travel ban on African countries to protect from Ebola, did you hear everyone screaming that it was racist? Keeping dangerous people out of the country is kind of the government's job. Not everyone is so simpleminded, though this is telling as far as your own stance is concerned. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:891641621] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>The simple fact of the matter is that people only oppose this because it's Trump doing it. When Obama had a travel ban on African countries to protect from Ebola, did you hear everyone screaming that it was racist? Keeping dangerous people out of the country is kind of the government's job.</quote> Not everyone is so simpleminded, though this is telling as far as your own stance is concerned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 12/05/17 2:29:04 PM #56:	Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:891641776] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote>Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 12/05/17 2:30:33 PM #57:	As I understand this just means the injunction has been lifted while the decision goes through the courts? --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:891641866] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote>As I understand this just means the injunction has been lifted while the decision goes through the courts?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 12/05/17 2:30:39 PM #58:	creativerealms posted... Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries. But that would take more effort than the decision process they used of throwing darts at a map of the middle east. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:891641874] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries.</quote> But that would take more effort than the decision process they used of throwing darts at a map of the middle east.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 12/05/17 2:31:41 PM #59:	creativerealms posted... Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries. Ban travel from known terror harboring cities in America! --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:891641923] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries.</quote> Ban travel from known terror harboring cities in America!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TendoDRM 12/05/17 2:33:24 PM #60:	pinky0926 posted... As I understand this just means the injunction has been lifted while the decision goes through the courts? Yes, though it's not a good sign. r4X0r posted... The simple fact of the matter is that people only oppose this because it's Trump doing it. When Obama had a travel ban on African countries to protect from Ebola, did you hear everyone screaming that it was racist? Keeping dangerous people out of the country is kind of the government's job. Holy shit what a dumb comparison. --- Cel Damage! Tonight at 8:00! <cite>TendoDRM posted [p:891642017] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>As I understand this just means the injunction has been lifted while the decision goes through the courts?</quote> Yes, though it's not a good sign. <cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>The simple fact of the matter is that people only oppose this because it's Trump doing it. When Obama had a travel ban on African countries to protect from Ebola, did you hear everyone screaming that it was racist? Keeping dangerous people out of the country is kind of the government's job.</quote> Holy shit what a dumb comparison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 12/05/17 2:35:18 PM #61:	creativerealms posted... Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries. What, so we should let people from places like Somalia pour into the US until things like this start happening here?? That's some remarkably bizarre logic. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/15/truck-bomb-mogadishu-kills-people-somalia Mogadishu truck bomb: 500 casualties in Somalias worst terrorist attack It's like I said before. People only oppose it because it's Trump who did it. If Obama did this, he would be held up as a champion of national security. Trump wants to keep terrorism out of the United States, oh he's an idiot. He's a racist, bigoted Islamophobic dolt. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:891642112] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries.</quote> What, so we should let people from places like Somalia pour into the US until things like this start happening here?? That's some remarkably bizarre logic. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/15/truck-bomb-mogadishu-kills-people-somalia Mogadishu truck bomb: 500 casualties in Somalias worst terrorist attack It's like I said before. People only oppose it because it's Trump who did it. If Obama did this, he would be held up as a champion of national security. Trump wants to keep terrorism out of the United States, oh he's an idiot. He's a racist, bigoted Islamophobic dolt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 12/05/17 2:36:07 PM #62:	creativerealms posted... Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries. That's mostly true for Europe too. Most European Jihadists had family origins in North Africa, particularly Morocco and Algeria. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:891642157] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries.</quote> That's mostly true for Europe too. Most European Jihadists had family origins in North Africa, particularly Morocco and Algeria.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution998 12/05/17 2:37:23 PM #63:	Do people in here really think they know more about the CIA or whatever government agency - whose job it is - to research and figure out where the high risk terrorists are coming from? --- The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poli' meaning many, and the word 'ticks' meaning blood sucking parasites. <cite>Caution998 posted [p:891642208] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote>Do people in here really think they know more about the CIA or whatever government agency - whose job it is - to research and figure out where the high risk terrorists are coming from?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 12/05/17 2:37:50 PM #64:	r4X0r posted... creativerealms posted... Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries. What, so we should let people from places like Somalia pour into the US until things like this start happening here?? That's some remarkably bizarre logic. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/15/truck-bomb-mogadishu-kills-people-somalia Mogadishu truck bomb: 500 casualties in Somalias worst terrorist attack It's like I said before. People only oppose it because it's Trump who did it. If Obama did this, he would be held up as a champion of national security. Trump wants to keep terrorism out of the United States, oh he's an idiot. He's a racist, bigoted Islamophobic dolt. How many mass shootings have happened in America in just this year? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:891642234] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries.</quote> What, so we should let people from places like Somalia pour into the US until things like this start happening here?? That's some remarkably bizarre logic. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/15/truck-bomb-mogadishu-kills-people-somalia Mogadishu truck bomb: 500 casualties in Somalias worst terrorist attack It's like I said before. People only oppose it because it's Trump who did it. If Obama did this, he would be held up as a champion of national security. Trump wants to keep terrorism out of the United States, oh he's an idiot. He's a racist, bigoted Islamophobic dolt.</quote> How many mass shootings have happened in America in just this year?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 12/05/17 2:37:54 PM #65:	Why do leftists believe the U.S. should not be allowed to defend its sovereignty?? --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:891642236] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote>Why do leftists believe the U.S. should not be allowed to defend its sovereignty??</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/05/17 2:38:51 PM #66:	mario2000 posted... r4X0r posted... creativerealms posted... Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries. What, so we should let people from places like Somalia pour into the US until things like this start happening here?? That's some remarkably bizarre logic. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/15/truck-bomb-mogadishu-kills-people-somalia Mogadishu truck bomb: 500 casualties in Somalias worst terrorist attack It's like I said before. People only oppose it because it's Trump who did it. If Obama did this, he would be held up as a champion of national security. Trump wants to keep terrorism out of the United States, oh he's an idiot. He's a racist, bigoted Islamophobic dolt. How many mass shootings have happened in America in just this year? Including or not including gang violence? <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891642289] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries.</quote> What, so we should let people from places like Somalia pour into the US until things like this start happening here?? That's some remarkably bizarre logic. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/15/truck-bomb-mogadishu-kills-people-somalia Mogadishu truck bomb: 500 casualties in Somalias worst terrorist attack It's like I said before. People only oppose it because it's Trump who did it. If Obama did this, he would be held up as a champion of national security. Trump wants to keep terrorism out of the United States, oh he's an idiot. He's a racist, bigoted Islamophobic dolt.</quote> How many mass shootings have happened in America in just this year?</quote> Including or not including gang violence?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 12/05/17 2:39:10 PM #67:	Funbazooka posted... Why do leftists believe the U.S. should not be allowed to defend its sovereignty?? No one is saying that. Build a better strawman next time. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:891642308] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>Why do leftists believe the U.S. should not be allowed to defend its sovereignty??</quote> No one is saying that. Build a better strawman next time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 12/05/17 2:39:12 PM #68:	mario2000 posted... How many mass shootings have happened in America in just this year? Yes, we already have some violence, so we should actively import more. That makes PERFECT sense. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:891642309] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote> How many mass shootings have happened in America in just this year?</quote> Yes, we already have some violence, so we should actively import more. That makes PERFECT sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 12/05/17 2:42:21 PM #69:	r4X0r posted... mario2000 posted... How many mass shootings have happened in America in just this year? Yes, we already have some violence, so we should actively import more. That makes PERFECT sense. From: someone who believes there is a direct correlation between one's propensity towards violence and their melanin levels. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:891642474] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote> How many mass shootings have happened in America in just this year?</quote> Yes, we already have some violence, so we should actively import more. That makes PERFECT sense.</quote> From: someone who believes there is a direct correlation between one's propensity towards violence and their melanin levels.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 12/05/17 2:44:15 PM #70:	mario2000 posted... r4X0r posted... creativerealms posted... Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries. What, so we should let people from places like Somalia pour into the US until things like this start happening here?? That's some remarkably bizarre logic. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/15/truck-bomb-mogadishu-kills-people-somalia Mogadishu truck bomb: 500 casualties in Somalias worst terrorist attack It's like I said before. People only oppose it because it's Trump who did it. If Obama did this, he would be held up as a champion of national security. Trump wants to keep terrorism out of the United States, oh he's an idiot. He's a racist, bigoted Islamophobic dolt. How many mass shootings have happened in America in just this year? Excluding domestic and gang related, 19. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:891642576] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe next time he can ban travel from countries terrorists actually came from. None of the terrorist attacks in America were done by people from any of those countries.</quote> What, so we should let people from places like Somalia pour into the US until things like this start happening here?? That's some remarkably bizarre logic. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/15/truck-bomb-mogadishu-kills-people-somalia Mogadishu truck bomb: 500 casualties in Somalias worst terrorist attack It's like I said before. People only oppose it because it's Trump who did it. If Obama did this, he would be held up as a champion of national security. Trump wants to keep terrorism out of the United States, oh he's an idiot. He's a racist, bigoted Islamophobic dolt.</quote> How many mass shootings have happened in America in just this year?</quote> Excluding domestic and gang related, 19.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 12/05/17 2:45:20 PM #71:	it literally says it'll be active WHILE THE TOPIC IS GOING THROUGH THE COURTS...it says nothing about the legality of it, yet..So no, being "within his rights" hasn't been determined yet lol... --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:891642649] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote>it literally says it'll be active WHILE THE TOPIC IS GOING THROUGH THE COURTS...it says nothing about the legality of it, yet..So no, being "within his rights" hasn't been determined yet lol...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/05/17 2:45:21 PM #72:	Caution998 posted... Do people in here really think they know more about the CIA or whatever government agency - whose job it is - to research and figure out where the high risk terrorists are coming from? You not knowing shit doesn't stop you talking about the Mueller investigation. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:891642650] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution998 posted...</cite> <quote>Do people in here really think they know more about the CIA or whatever government agency - whose job it is - to research and figure out where the high risk terrorists are coming from?</quote> You not knowing shit doesn't stop you talking about the Mueller investigation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryven 12/05/17 2:47:52 PM #73:	319 days later: Refugees: 0 Attacks 0 Deaths 4 Travel Bans Americans: 56,863 Shootings 14,335 Deaths 326 Mass Shootings 0 Gun Bans 'murica. --- 'You lost today, kid. But that doesn't mean you have to like it.' <cite>Ryven posted [p:891642780] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote>319 days later: Refugees: 0 Attacks 0 Deaths 4 Travel Bans Americans: 56,863 Shootings 14,335 Deaths 326 Mass Shootings 0 Gun Bans 'murica.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 12/05/17 2:49:15 PM #74:	mario2000 posted... Funbazooka posted... Why do leftists believe the U.S. should not be allowed to defend its sovereignty?? No one is saying that. Build a better strawman next time. Travel ban = "Islamophobia! Xenophobia! Racism! One step away from fascism!" This topic is peppered with that nonsense. That's what I take issue with here. --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:891642855] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>Why do leftists believe the U.S. should not be allowed to defend its sovereignty??</quote> No one is saying that. Build a better strawman next time.</quote> Travel ban = "Islamophobia! Xenophobia! Racism! One step away from fascism!" This topic is peppered with that nonsense. That's what I take issue with here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/05/17 2:51:13 PM #75:	Ryven posted... 319 days later: Refugees: 0 Attacks 0 Deaths 4 Travel Bans Americans: 56,863 Shootings 14,335 Deaths 326 Mass Shootings 0 Gun Bans 'murica. Mass shooting stat is misleading and intentionally done to make people think incidents like Vegas happen every day. And what exactly would a gun ban do but disarm law abiding citizens? Dont act stupid. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891642960] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>319 days later: Refugees: 0 Attacks 0 Deaths 4 Travel Bans Americans: 56,863 Shootings 14,335 Deaths 326 Mass Shootings 0 Gun Bans 'murica.</quote> Mass shooting stat is misleading and intentionally done to make people think incidents like Vegas happen every day. And what exactly would a gun ban do but disarm law abiding citizens? Dont act stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 12/05/17 2:53:20 PM #76:	Funbazooka posted... mario2000 posted... Funbazooka posted... Why do leftists believe the U.S. should not be allowed to defend its sovereignty?? No one is saying that. Build a better strawman next time. Travel ban = "Islamophobia! Xenophobia! Racism! One step away from fascism!" This topic is peppered with that nonsense. That's what I take issue with here. Brown people coming to the US will not endanger its sovereignty. Relax. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:891643078] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>Why do leftists believe the U.S. should not be allowed to defend its sovereignty??</quote> No one is saying that. Build a better strawman next time.</quote> Travel ban = "Islamophobia! Xenophobia! Racism! One step away from fascism!" This topic is peppered with that nonsense. That's what I take issue with here.</quote> Brown people coming to the US will not endanger its sovereignty. Relax.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 12/05/17 2:53:59 PM #77:	Funbazooka posted... mario2000 posted... Funbazooka posted... Why do leftists believe the U.S. should not be allowed to defend its sovereignty?? No one is saying that. Build a better strawman next time. Travel ban = "Islamophobia! Xenophobia! Racism! One step away from fascism!" This topic is peppered with that nonsense. That's what I take issue with here. It's too bad that Trump originally called for a complete shutdown of Muslim immigration after San Bernardino. It's also too bad that Trump once tweeted, "London has a Muslim problem" and recently retweeted three anti-Muslim videos. Trump clearly has an issue with Muslims in general. Any "travel ban" is tainted by Trump's bigotry. Same with the border wall (which unlike the travel ban, we do need). <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:891643113] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>Why do leftists believe the U.S. should not be allowed to defend its sovereignty??</quote> No one is saying that. Build a better strawman next time.</quote> Travel ban = "Islamophobia! Xenophobia! Racism! One step away from fascism!" This topic is peppered with that nonsense. That's what I take issue with here.</quote> It's too bad that Trump originally called for a complete shutdown of Muslim immigration after San Bernardino. It's also too bad that Trump once tweeted, "London has a Muslim problem" and recently retweeted three anti-Muslim videos. Trump clearly has an issue with Muslims in general. Any "travel ban" is tainted by Trump's bigotry. Same with the border wall (which unlike the travel ban, we do need).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 12/05/17 2:54:14 PM #78:	_RETS_ posted... Ryven posted... 319 days later: Refugees: 0 Attacks 0 Deaths 4 Travel Bans Americans: 56,863 Shootings 14,335 Deaths 326 Mass Shootings 0 Gun Bans 'murica. Mass shooting stat is misleading and intentionally done to make people think incidents like Vegas happen every day. And what exactly would a gun ban do but disarm law abiding citizens? Dont act stupid. So a mass shooting needs to be on the level of Vegas for it to be worth worrying about? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:891643129] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>319 days later: Refugees: 0 Attacks 0 Deaths 4 Travel Bans Americans: 56,863 Shootings 14,335 Deaths 326 Mass Shootings 0 Gun Bans 'murica.</quote> Mass shooting stat is misleading and intentionally done to make people think incidents like Vegas happen every day. And what exactly would a gun ban do but disarm law abiding citizens? Dont act stupid.</quote> So a mass shooting needs to be on the level of Vegas for it to be worth worrying about?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 12/05/17 2:55:23 PM #79:	_RETS_ posted... Ryven posted... 319 days later: Refugees: 0 Attacks 0 Deaths 4 Travel Bans Americans: 56,863 Shootings 14,335 Deaths 326 Mass Shootings 0 Gun Bans 'murica. Mass shooting stat is misleading and intentionally done to make people think incidents like Vegas happen every day. And what exactly would a gun ban do but disarm law abiding citizens? Dont act stupid. Those stats are not only about mass shootings. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:891643199] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>319 days later: Refugees: 0 Attacks 0 Deaths 4 Travel Bans Americans: 56,863 Shootings 14,335 Deaths 326 Mass Shootings 0 Gun Bans 'murica.</quote> Mass shooting stat is misleading and intentionally done to make people think incidents like Vegas happen every day. And what exactly would a gun ban do but disarm law abiding citizens? Dont act stupid.</quote> Those stats are not only about mass shootings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/05/17 2:56:32 PM #80:	Ammonitida posted... _RETS_ posted... Ryven posted... 319 days later: Refugees: 0 Attacks 0 Deaths 4 Travel Bans Americans: 56,863 Shootings 14,335 Deaths 326 Mass Shootings 0 Gun Bans 'murica. Mass shooting stat is misleading and intentionally done to make people think incidents like Vegas happen every day. And what exactly would a gun ban do but disarm law abiding citizens? Dont act stupid. Those stats are not only about mass shootings. Which is why I specifically referred to the mass shooting stat. If there is a point to be made, it can be made without misrepresentation. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891643246] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>319 days later: Refugees: 0 Attacks 0 Deaths 4 Travel Bans Americans: 56,863 Shootings 14,335 Deaths 326 Mass Shootings 0 Gun Bans 'murica.</quote> Mass shooting stat is misleading and intentionally done to make people think incidents like Vegas happen every day. And what exactly would a gun ban do but disarm law abiding citizens? Dont act stupid.</quote> Those stats are not only about mass shootings.</quote> Which is why I specifically referred to the mass shooting stat. If there is a point to be made, it can be made without misrepresentation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 12/05/17 3:09:12 PM #81:	How is it misrepresentation? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:891643984] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote>How is it misrepresentation?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/05/17 3:12:02 PM #82:	mario2000 posted... How is it misrepresentation? Because it is used to imply that things like Vegas or San Antonio are rampant and happening daily when in actuality a huge portion of the number is gang violence. It is an inflated number used to fear longer for gun control, which wouldn't do much to stop gang violence anyway. Obviously 1 situation like Vegas is too many. But there is a more honest way to argue than lumping in Chicago's weekend totals <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891644155] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote>How is it misrepresentation?</quote> Because it is used to imply that things like Vegas or San Antonio are rampant and happening daily when in actuality a huge portion of the number is gang violence. It is an inflated number used to fear longer for gun control, which wouldn't do much to stop gang violence anyway. Obviously 1 situation like Vegas is too many. But there is a more honest way to argue than lumping in Chicago's weekend totals</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 12/05/17 3:12:55 PM #83:	mario2000 posted... _RETS_ posted... Ryven posted... 319 days later: Refugees: 0 Attacks 0 Deaths 4 Travel Bans Americans: 56,863 Shootings 14,335 Deaths 326 Mass Shootings 0 Gun Bans 'murica. Mass shooting stat is misleading and intentionally done to make people think incidents like Vegas happen every day. And what exactly would a gun ban do but disarm law abiding citizens? Dont act stupid. So a mass shooting needs to be on the level of Vegas for it to be worth worrying about? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:891644210] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>319 days later: Refugees: 0 Attacks 0 Deaths 4 Travel Bans Americans: 56,863 Shootings 14,335 Deaths 326 Mass Shootings 0 Gun Bans 'murica.</quote> Mass shooting stat is misleading and intentionally done to make people think incidents like Vegas happen every day. And what exactly would a gun ban do but disarm law abiding citizens? Dont act stupid.</quote> So a mass shooting needs to be on the level of Vegas for it to be worth worrying about?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/05/17 3:14:31 PM #84:	mario2000 posted... mario2000 posted... _RETS_ posted... Ryven posted... 319 days later: Refugees: 0 Attacks 0 Deaths 4 Travel Bans Americans: 56,863 Shootings 14,335 Deaths 326 Mass Shootings 0 Gun Bans 'murica. Mass shooting stat is misleading and intentionally done to make people think incidents like Vegas happen every day. And what exactly would a gun ban do but disarm law abiding citizens? Dont act stupid. So a mass shooting needs to be on the level of Vegas for it to be worth worrying about? Not at all what I said. If you want to argue about gun violence, lumping in gang violence is dishonest and done to inflate the number and fear monger. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891644304] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>319 days later: Refugees: 0 Attacks 0 Deaths 4 Travel Bans Americans: 56,863 Shootings 14,335 Deaths 326 Mass Shootings 0 Gun Bans 'murica.</quote> Mass shooting stat is misleading and intentionally done to make people think incidents like Vegas happen every day. And what exactly would a gun ban do but disarm law abiding citizens? Dont act stupid.</quote> So a mass shooting needs to be on the level of Vegas for it to be worth worrying about?</quote></quote> Not at all what I said. If you want to argue about gun violence, lumping in gang violence is dishonest and done to inflate the number and fear monger.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/05/17 3:15:43 PM #85:	Liberals get real uncomfortable when it's pointed out that a huge chunk of their daily mass shootings number is minorities killing people. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891644382] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote>Liberals get real uncomfortable when it's pointed out that a huge chunk of their daily mass shootings number is minorities killing people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 12/05/17 3:16:44 PM #86:	Not at all what I said. If you want to argue about gun violence, lumping in gang violence is dishonest and done to inflate the number and fear monger. OK, I'll humor you. So we have both mass shooting violence and gang violence, and they need to be differentiated because....reasons. How does this help the argument that America is supposedly a perfectly peaceful place that will become a violent hellhole if we continue to allow brown Muslims in? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:891644440] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><quote>Not at all what I said. If you want to argue about gun violence, lumping in gang violence is dishonest and done to inflate the number and fear monger.</quote> OK, I'll humor you. So we have both mass shooting violence and gang violence, and they need to be differentiated because....reasons. How does this help the argument that America is supposedly a perfectly peaceful place that will become a violent hellhole if we continue to allow brown Muslims in?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XHJYFL 12/05/17 3:18:58 PM #87:	Excellent MAGA --- http://i.imgur.com/kYb4jkz.jpg <cite>XHJYFL posted [p:891644545] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote>Excellent MAGA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/05/17 3:23:13 PM #88:	mario2000 posted... Not at all what I said. If you want to argue about gun violence, lumping in gang violence is dishonest and done to inflate the number and fear monger. OK, I'll humor you. So we have both mass shooting violence and gang violence, and they need to be differentiated because....reasons. How does this help the argument that America is supposedly a perfectly peaceful place that will become a violent hellhole if we continue to allow brown Muslims in? They should be differentiated for the sake of honest argument. Don't act like the inflated mass shooting number is used as a condemnation of white men's propensity to perpetrate mass shootings, when in reality that number is largely minorities. And Islam as a religion is shown daily, worldwide to be extremely violent and incompatible with western nations. Obviously there are peaceful Muslims. But vetting should be done of them trying to enter the country. If a travel ban is necessary in order to install more thorough processes and let countries on the list revise their systems of accounting for their citizens, then so be it. If we have a violence issue here, why invite more Violence by not having standards in place? Additionally, the guy who gave that inflated stat did so to argue in favor of a gun ban, which would have no effect at all on gang violence moreso than it would law abiding citizens. You can't use a big scary number to argue for a gun ban while ignoring that the majority of that number is made of populations that the gun ban wouldn't affect. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891644787] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Not at all what I said. If you want to argue about gun violence, lumping in gang violence is dishonest and done to inflate the number and fear monger.</quote> OK, I'll humor you. So we have both mass shooting violence and gang violence, and they need to be differentiated because....reasons. How does this help the argument that America is supposedly a perfectly peaceful place that will become a violent hellhole if we continue to allow brown Muslims in?</quote> They should be differentiated for the sake of honest argument. Don't act like the inflated mass shooting number is used as a condemnation of white men's propensity to perpetrate mass shootings, when in reality that number is largely minorities. And Islam as a religion is shown daily, worldwide to be extremely violent and incompatible with western nations. Obviously there are peaceful Muslims. But vetting should be done of them trying to enter the country. If a travel ban is necessary in order to install more thorough processes and let countries on the list revise their systems of accounting for their citizens, then so be it. If we have a violence issue here, why invite more Violence by not having standards in place? Additionally, the guy who gave that inflated stat did so to argue in favor of a gun ban, which would have no effect at all on gang violence moreso than it would law abiding citizens. You can't use a big scary number to argue for a gun ban while ignoring that the majority of that number is made of populations that the gun ban wouldn't affect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 12/05/17 3:23:58 PM #89:	Ammonitida posted... Funbazooka posted... mario2000 posted... Funbazooka posted... Why do leftists believe the U.S. should not be allowed to defend its sovereignty?? No one is saying that. Build a better strawman next time. Travel ban = "Islamophobia! Xenophobia! Racism! One step away from fascism!" This topic is peppered with that nonsense. That's what I take issue with here. It's too bad that Trump originally called for a complete shutdown of Muslim immigration after San Bernardino. It's also too bad that Trump once tweeted, "London has a Muslim problem" and recently retweeted three anti-Muslim videos. Trump clearly has an issue with Muslims in general. Any "travel ban" is tainted by Trump's bigotry. Same with the border wall (which unlike the travel ban, we do need). Yeah, he called for that 2 years ago. You can call those types of remarks islamophobic, sure. As for the three videos he re-tweeted, only one of those was fake. The other two were authentic video evidence of crimes. I fail to see why those should be censored or forbidden from the public to view. I mean, video evidence is used for convictions... it's not anti-anything. If those videos were ant-Muslim then you're well on the path to saying "well you can't use these videos to prove your case because it's islamophobic". That's where that type of logic leads. That's insane. And hardly any different than saying you can't have a travel ban because it's islamophobic. None of this makes the travel ban itself islamophobic or xenophobic or whatever. You say it's "tainted" well what does that mean? In what tangible way? Does the travel ban only target Muslims? No. It's defined by the nations on the list. Case closed. --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:891644825] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>Why do leftists believe the U.S. should not be allowed to defend its sovereignty??</quote> No one is saying that. Build a better strawman next time.</quote> Travel ban = "Islamophobia! Xenophobia! Racism! One step away from fascism!" This topic is peppered with that nonsense. That's what I take issue with here.</quote> It's too bad that Trump originally called for a complete shutdown of Muslim immigration after San Bernardino. It's also too bad that Trump once tweeted, "London has a Muslim problem" and recently retweeted three anti-Muslim videos. Trump clearly has an issue with Muslims in general. Any "travel ban" is tainted by Trump's bigotry. Same with the border wall (which unlike the travel ban, we do need).</quote> Yeah, he called for that 2 years ago. You can call those types of remarks islamophobic, sure. As for the three videos he re-tweeted, only one of those was fake. The other two were authentic video evidence of crimes. I fail to see why those should be censored or forbidden from the public to view. I mean, video evidence is used for convictions... it's not anti-anything. If those videos were ant-Muslim then you're well on the path to saying "well you can't use these videos to prove your case because it's islamophobic". That's where that type of logic leads. That's insane. And hardly any different than saying you can't have a travel ban because it's islamophobic. None of this makes the travel ban itself islamophobic or xenophobic or whatever. You say it's "tainted" well what does that mean? In what tangible way? Does the travel ban only target Muslims? No. It's defined by the nations on the list. Case closed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
copout 12/05/17 3:30:04 PM #90:	hockeybub89 posted... I'll take this ban seriously as soon as Saudi Arabia becomes a part of it. --- 12 year Memphis Grizzlies season ticket holder. <cite>copout posted [p:891645155] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I'll take this ban seriously as soon as Saudi Arabia becomes a part of it.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 12/05/17 3:30:57 PM #91:	They should be differentiated for the sake of honest argument. Don't act like the inflated mass shooting number is used as a condemnation of white men's propensity to perpetrate mass shootings, when in reality that number is largely minorities. So the answer is "because I'm racist". Got it And Islam as a religion is shown daily, worldwide to be extremely violent and incompatible with western nations. Obviously there are peaceful Muslims. But vetting should be done of them trying to enter the country. If a travel ban is necessary in order to install more thorough processes and let countries on the list revise their systems of accounting for their citizens, then so be it. How do you "vet" someone? Which thorough processes would you use? I see rightists toss out these terms like candy on Halloween, but have trouble specifying exactly what they mean. If we have a violence issue here, why invite more Violence by not having standards in place? Because you're assuming someone is going to be violent just because they are Muslim. You can't use a big scary number to argue for a gun ban while ignoring that the majority of that number is made of populations that the gun ban wouldn't affect. I believe the topic at hand is the travel ban, not gun bans. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:891645219] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><quote>They should be differentiated for the sake of honest argument. Don't act like the inflated mass shooting number is used as a condemnation of white men's propensity to perpetrate mass shootings, when in reality that number is largely minorities. </quote> So the answer is "because I'm racist". Got it <quote>And Islam as a religion is shown daily, worldwide to be extremely violent and incompatible with western nations. Obviously there are peaceful Muslims. But vetting should be done of them trying to enter the country. If a travel ban is necessary in order to install more thorough processes and let countries on the list revise their systems of accounting for their citizens, then so be it. </quote> How do you "vet" someone? Which thorough processes would you use? I see rightists toss out these terms like candy on Halloween, but have trouble specifying exactly what they mean. <quote>If we have a violence issue here, why invite more Violence by not having standards in place?</quote> Because you're assuming someone is going to be violent just because they are Muslim. <quote>You can't use a big scary number to argue for a gun ban while ignoring that the majority of that number is made of populations that the gun ban wouldn't affect.</quote> I believe the topic at hand is the travel ban, not gun bans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/05/17 3:34:53 PM #92:	mario2000 posted... They should be differentiated for the sake of honest argument. Don't act like the inflated mass shooting number is used as a condemnation of white men's propensity to perpetrate mass shootings, when in reality that number is largely minorities. So the answer is "because I'm racist". Got it And Islam as a religion is shown daily, worldwide to be extremely violent and incompatible with western nations. Obviously there are peaceful Muslims. But vetting should be done of them trying to enter the country. If a travel ban is necessary in order to install more thorough processes and let countries on the list revise their systems of accounting for their citizens, then so be it. How do you "vet" someone? Which thorough processes would you use? I see rightists toss out these terms like candy on Halloween, but have trouble specifying exactly what they mean. If we have a violence issue here, why invite more Violence by not having standards in place? Because you're assuming someone is going to be violent just because they are Muslim. You can't use a big scary number to argue for a gun ban while ignoring that the majority of that number is made of populations that the gun ban wouldn't affect. I believe the topic at hand is the travel ban, not gun bans. Are you pretending to be stupid? I responded specifically to a post comparing it to domestic gun violence which used the inflated number, which is what i commented on. And racist? For what exactly? I said you can't use an inflated number as a condemnation of dangerous white men, like the left likes to do, while ignoring that most of that number is from minorities killing people. It is DISHONEST. And I sure hope you dont lock your doors or check to see who is knocking before you open the door, otherwise you're just another liberal hypocrite. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891645457] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><quote>They should be differentiated for the sake of honest argument. Don't act like the inflated mass shooting number is used as a condemnation of white men's propensity to perpetrate mass shootings, when in reality that number is largely minorities. </quote> So the answer is "because I'm racist". Got it <quote>And Islam as a religion is shown daily, worldwide to be extremely violent and incompatible with western nations. Obviously there are peaceful Muslims. But vetting should be done of them trying to enter the country. If a travel ban is necessary in order to install more thorough processes and let countries on the list revise their systems of accounting for their citizens, then so be it. </quote> How do you "vet" someone? Which thorough processes would you use? I see rightists toss out these terms like candy on Halloween, but have trouble specifying exactly what they mean. <quote>If we have a violence issue here, why invite more Violence by not having standards in place?</quote> Because you're assuming someone is going to be violent just because they are Muslim. <quote>You can't use a big scary number to argue for a gun ban while ignoring that the majority of that number is made of populations that the gun ban wouldn't affect.</quote> I believe the topic at hand is the travel ban, not gun bans.</quote> Are you pretending to be stupid? I responded specifically to a post comparing it to domestic gun violence which used the inflated number, which is what i commented on. And racist? For what exactly? I said you can't use an inflated number as a condemnation of dangerous white men, like the left likes to do, while ignoring that most of that number is from minorities killing people. It is DISHONEST. And I sure hope you dont lock your doors or check to see who is knocking before you open the door, otherwise you're just another liberal hypocrite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/05/17 3:36:21 PM #93:	By the way, if you support gun control (background checks, vetting) you should have no problem with a travel ban on countries in which there are no systems in place to do that for their citizens. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891645544] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote>By the way, if you support gun control (background checks, vetting) you should have no problem with a travel ban on countries in which there are no systems in place to do that for their citizens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 12/05/17 3:40:21 PM #95:	I responded specifically to a post comparing it to domestic gun violence which used the inflated number, which is what i commented on. No, you're splitting hairs so you can make some irrelevant point and dodge the topic at hand. And racist? For what exactly? I said you can't use an inflated number as a condemnation of dangerous white men, like the left likes to do, while ignoring that most of that number is from minorities killing people. It is DISHONEST. I'm calling you racist because you're getting ultra defensive here and deflecting to minority violence. And I sure hope you dont lock your doors or check to see who is knocking before you open the door, otherwise you're just another liberal hypocrite. You ok buddy? You're spouting weird nonsense here. Did I break you? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:891645771] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><quote>I responded specifically to a post comparing it to domestic gun violence which used the inflated number, which is what i commented on. </quote> No, you're splitting hairs so you can make some irrelevant point and dodge the topic at hand. <quote>And racist? For what exactly? I said you can't use an inflated number as a condemnation of dangerous white men, like the left likes to do, while ignoring that most of that number is from minorities killing people. It is DISHONEST. </quote> I'm calling you racist because you're getting ultra defensive here and deflecting to minority violence. <quote>And I sure hope you dont lock your doors or check to see who is knocking before you open the door, otherwise you're just another liberal hypocrite.</quote> You ok buddy? You're spouting weird nonsense here. Did I break you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/05/17 3:45:03 PM #96:	mario2000 posted... I responded specifically to a post comparing it to domestic gun violence which used the inflated number, which is what i commented on. No, you're splitting hairs so you can make some irrelevant point and dodge the topic at hand. And racist? For what exactly? I said you can't use an inflated number as a condemnation of dangerous white men, like the left likes to do, while ignoring that most of that number is from minorities killing people. It is DISHONEST. I'm calling you racist because you're getting ultra defensive here and deflecting to minority violence. And I sure hope you dont lock your doors or check to see who is knocking before you open the door, otherwise you're just another liberal hypocrite. You ok buddy? You're spouting weird nonsense here. Did I break you? I'm not deflecting. You asked how the number is a misrepresentation, and i specifically told you that it is used as a big scary number to condemn white violence and push for gun control while ignoring that it is made up of minority gang violence that would not be affected by further gun measures. It was a point blank answer to your question. And I'm not splitting hairs. My point was that if that poster was trying to make a point, he should do it without misrepresentation that delegitimizes what may otherwise be a valid point <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891646042] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><quote>I responded specifically to a post comparing it to domestic gun violence which used the inflated number, which is what i commented on. </quote> No, you're splitting hairs so you can make some irrelevant point and dodge the topic at hand. <quote>And racist? For what exactly? I said you can't use an inflated number as a condemnation of dangerous white men, like the left likes to do, while ignoring that most of that number is from minorities killing people. It is DISHONEST. </quote> I'm calling you racist because you're getting ultra defensive here and deflecting to minority violence. <quote>And I sure hope you dont lock your doors or check to see who is knocking before you open the door, otherwise you're just another liberal hypocrite.</quote> You ok buddy? You're spouting weird nonsense here. Did I break you?</quote> I'm not deflecting. You asked how the number is a misrepresentation, and i specifically told you that it is used as a big scary number to condemn white violence and push for gun control while ignoring that it is made up of minority gang violence that would not be affected by further gun measures. It was a point blank answer to your question. And I'm not splitting hairs. My point was that if that poster was trying to make a point, he should do it without misrepresentation that delegitimizes what may otherwise be a valid point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 12/05/17 3:51:10 PM #97:	_RETS_ posted... mario2000 posted... I responded specifically to a post comparing it to domestic gun violence which used the inflated number, which is what i commented on. No, you're splitting hairs so you can make some irrelevant point and dodge the topic at hand. And racist? For what exactly? I said you can't use an inflated number as a condemnation of dangerous white men, like the left likes to do, while ignoring that most of that number is from minorities killing people. It is DISHONEST. I'm calling you racist because you're getting ultra defensive here and deflecting to minority violence. And I sure hope you dont lock your doors or check to see who is knocking before you open the door, otherwise you're just another liberal hypocrite. You ok buddy? You're spouting weird nonsense here. Did I break you? I'm not deflecting. You asked how the number is a misrepresentation, and i specifically told you that it is used as a big scary number to condemn white violence and push for gun control while ignoring that it is made up of minority gang violence that would not be affected by further gun measures. It was a point blank answer to your question. And I'm not splitting hairs. My point was that if that poster was trying to make a point, he should do it without misrepresentation that delegitimizes what may otherwise be a valid point Why does this matter? Who cares? You're literally yelling at no one. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:891646388] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><quote>I responded specifically to a post comparing it to domestic gun violence which used the inflated number, which is what i commented on. </quote> No, you're splitting hairs so you can make some irrelevant point and dodge the topic at hand. <quote>And racist? For what exactly? I said you can't use an inflated number as a condemnation of dangerous white men, like the left likes to do, while ignoring that most of that number is from minorities killing people. It is DISHONEST. </quote> I'm calling you racist because you're getting ultra defensive here and deflecting to minority violence. <quote>And I sure hope you dont lock your doors or check to see who is knocking before you open the door, otherwise you're just another liberal hypocrite.</quote> You ok buddy? You're spouting weird nonsense here. Did I break you?</quote> I'm not deflecting. You asked how the number is a misrepresentation, and i specifically told you that it is used as a big scary number to condemn white violence and push for gun control while ignoring that it is made up of minority gang violence that would not be affected by further gun measures. It was a point blank answer to your question. And I'm not splitting hairs. My point was that if that poster was trying to make a point, he should do it without misrepresentation that delegitimizes what may otherwise be a valid point</quote> Why does this matter? Who cares? You're literally yelling at no one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/05/17 3:53:28 PM #98:	mario2000 posted... _RETS_ posted... mario2000 posted... I responded specifically to a post comparing it to domestic gun violence which used the inflated number, which is what i commented on. No, you're splitting hairs so you can make some irrelevant point and dodge the topic at hand. And racist? For what exactly? I said you can't use an inflated number as a condemnation of dangerous white men, like the left likes to do, while ignoring that most of that number is from minorities killing people. It is DISHONEST. I'm calling you racist because you're getting ultra defensive here and deflecting to minority violence. And I sure hope you dont lock your doors or check to see who is knocking before you open the door, otherwise you're just another liberal hypocrite. You ok buddy? You're spouting weird nonsense here. Did I break you? I'm not deflecting. You asked how the number is a misrepresentation, and i specifically told you that it is used as a big scary number to condemn white violence and push for gun control while ignoring that it is made up of minority gang violence that would not be affected by further gun measures. It was a point blank answer to your question. And I'm not splitting hairs. My point was that if that poster was trying to make a point, he should do it without misrepresentation that delegitimizes what may otherwise be a valid point Why does this matter? Who cares? You're literally yelling at no one. Ah, so you're not pretending to be stupid. You asked a question, I have a thorough answer, and the answer apparently ruined your worldview so now you're whining about it not mattering. I didn't address you to begin with until you asked a question. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891646531] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><quote>I responded specifically to a post comparing it to domestic gun violence which used the inflated number, which is what i commented on. </quote> No, you're splitting hairs so you can make some irrelevant point and dodge the topic at hand. <quote>And racist? For what exactly? I said you can't use an inflated number as a condemnation of dangerous white men, like the left likes to do, while ignoring that most of that number is from minorities killing people. It is DISHONEST. </quote> I'm calling you racist because you're getting ultra defensive here and deflecting to minority violence. <quote>And I sure hope you dont lock your doors or check to see who is knocking before you open the door, otherwise you're just another liberal hypocrite.</quote> You ok buddy? You're spouting weird nonsense here. Did I break you?</quote> I'm not deflecting. You asked how the number is a misrepresentation, and i specifically told you that it is used as a big scary number to condemn white violence and push for gun control while ignoring that it is made up of minority gang violence that would not be affected by further gun measures. It was a point blank answer to your question. And I'm not splitting hairs. My point was that if that poster was trying to make a point, he should do it without misrepresentation that delegitimizes what may otherwise be a valid point</quote> Why does this matter? Who cares? You're literally yelling at no one.</quote> Ah, so you're not pretending to be stupid. You asked a question, I have a thorough answer, and the answer apparently ruined your worldview so now you're whining about it not mattering. I didn't address you to begin with until you asked a question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 12/05/17 3:55:02 PM #99:	Ah, so you're not pretending to be stupid. You asked a question, I have a thorough answer, and the answer apparently ruined your worldview so now you're whining about it not mattering. I didn't address you to begin with until you asked a question. You still haven't addressed how your answer has anything to do with Muslim immigrants ruining the supposedly perfectly peaceful America with their violence. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:891646637] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><quote>Ah, so you're not pretending to be stupid. You asked a question, I have a thorough answer, and the answer apparently ruined your worldview so now you're whining about it not mattering. I didn't address you to begin with until you asked a question.</quote> You still haven't addressed how your answer has anything to do with Muslim immigrants ruining the supposedly perfectly peaceful America with their violence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/05/17 3:59:23 PM #100:	mario2000 posted... Ah, so you're not pretending to be stupid. You asked a question, I have a thorough answer, and the answer apparently ruined your worldview so now you're whining about it not mattering. I didn't address you to begin with until you asked a question. You still haven't addressed how your answer has anything to do with Muslim immigrants ruining the supposedly perfectly peaceful America with their violence. Because it is a notion that no one is suggesting. The only reason you have an issue with vetting people coming into the country is because Trump is the one doing it and you're a liberal sheep ready to swallow whatever the media gives to you. You not wanting people prior to shovel garbage through your front door doesn't mean you have a perfectly clean house. It means you don't want to add to the existing issues if it can be prevented. There is nothing wrong with revamping standards for entry from countries that have no meaningful way to vet their citizens, especially when they are countries where the majority religion is responsible for most of the violence on that side of the world. Again, unless you just keep your front door open and don't care who walks into your house, it's best if you shut the fuck up <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891646907] in Supreme Co... [t:76061898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Ah, so you're not pretending to be stupid. You asked a question, I have a thorough answer, and the answer apparently ruined your worldview so now you're whining about it not mattering. I didn't address you to begin with until you asked a question.</quote> You still haven't addressed how your answer has anything to do with Muslim immigrants ruining the supposedly perfectly peaceful America with their violence.</quote> Because it is a notion that no one is suggesting. The only reason you have an issue with vetting people coming into the country is because Trump is the one doing it and you're a liberal sheep ready to swallow whatever the media gives to you. You not wanting people prior to shovel garbage through your front door doesn't mean you have a perfectly clean house. It means you don't want to add to the existing issues if it can be prevented. There is nothing wrong with revamping standards for entry from countries that have no meaningful way to vet their citizens, especially when they are countries where the majority religion is responsible for most of the violence on that side of the world. Again, unless you just keep your front door open and don't care who walks into your house, it's best if you shut the fuck up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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