Current Events > Bernie Sanders seems like the Democratic favorite in 2020 right now

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2020!
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joe biden is also making a run for it
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Balrog0 posted...

joe biden is also making a run for it

He really shouldn't.
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neither should b-sands, but hey
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Sherrod Brown should do it

So should Al Fra- oh right... never mind.
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Let's be real, Martin O'Malley is probably going to be running too
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Sanders of those options easily, but I could be swayed to pretty much anything that isnt an international embarrassment
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Honestly I was against him in 2016 but he seems to be the most popular option right now and I want Trump out of the White House.

Bernie Sanders turned out to be just as much of a sellout as the rest of them. That, on top of "We're just going to make everything free!" not passing the sniff test with the intelligent voter, he's got no chance.

Credit where credit's due though, he's easily the best liar politics has ever seen because he lies by omission, instead of just throwing a lie out there and letting the media cover.
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Any of them would be better options than Cory Booker who will almost assuredly run as well.
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Kamala_Harris posted...

Honestly I was against him in 2016 but he seems to be the most popular option right now and I want Trump out of the White House.

Literally the reasoning responsible for 75% of Clinton's and Trump's votes. I support Sanders but I really want see more candidates that people want in the White house because they believe in the candidates' visions for the country.
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I would sacrifice a limb if it meant Bernie stayed in good physical and mental shape through his term.
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s0nicfan posted...

Any of them would be better options than Cory Booker who will almost assuredly run as well.

I think the "Vote for the black guy or you're racist!" card has been played to the point of irrelevance, he was the mayor of a shithole city and New Jersey is a state people are actively fleeing due to oppressive taxation. He's got no chance.
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Tbh I'd like to see Richard Cordray. I think he'd make a good President.

But running one government department isn't enough experience imo

Kander would've been a good pick but he lost his senate race
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It's hard to say who the Democratic nominee will be... Bernie, Harris, Warren... even Franken still has a shot, imo.

On the Republican side, I expect Romney to challenge Pence or whoever is left in office. No one has set himself up better than Romney so far.

The Libertarian front-runner (even though it's early) is Austin Petersen. If he wins his Senate race, then I'd book him for sure.

I imagine I'll vote for Petersen if it pans out this way.
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Polycosm posted...

even Franken still has a shot, imo.

lol no way

possible if he were a republican, maybe
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also, petersen is running as a republican after running for president as a libertarian, I really doubt the party would want him at all but especially so close to his flipping
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Spooking posted...

Bernie Sanders won't be able to get anything pass due to the senate and house. We need somebody more in the middle so they are able to wheel and deal instead of complain like Sanders will.

You've already lost. Donald Trump is president and a child molester who thinks homosexuality should be illegal is about to become a senator. Quit compromising ahead of time.
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Wouldn't Bernie be like in his eighties if he ends up president? That's pretty damn old. He should anoint a successor.
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So far, the only person whose announced a Democratic campaign (that I'm aware of) is a guy named John K. Delaney.

Seems like a cool guy.
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I used to love Bernie Sanders, but he betrayed me. I don't know if I can trust him again.
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Polycosm posted...

It's hard to say who the Democratic nominee will be... Bernie, Harris, Warren... even Franken still has a shot, imo.

Why does nobody ever mention O'Malley? Guy was governor of a state for 8 years> He's a legit candidate.

And Franken does not have a shit. As Balrog said, if he were a Republican maybe, but Dems tend to have higher standards on that sort of thing.
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After the lucidity that we've seen Trump exhibit, I sort of want someone a little closer to 40 or 50.
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But of course we all know I (Kamala Harris) will be the next President (;

Phantom_Nook posted...

So far, the only person whose announced a Democratic campaign (that I'm aware of) is a guy named John K. Delaney.

Seems like a cool guy.

Dude's only been in the House about 4 years.

He's probably just doing it to build momentum, maybe get himself a running mate/cabinet position with whoever the actual Dem nominee is.
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Doom_Art posted...

Why does nobody ever mention O'Malley? Guy was governor of a state for 8 years> He's a legit candidate.

His hand-picked successor lost the governor's race in Maryland. He got like 2% last time out, and also nobody is looking at Baltimore for examples of good governance. Nobody wants The Mayor From The Wire
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Any day now, Oprah...

Doom_Art posted...

And Franken does not have a shit. As Balrog said, if he were a Republican maybe, but Dems tend to have higher standards on that sort of thing.

I mean, specifically because women are a larger share of primary voters for democrats than republicans

I am having a hard time making an appropriate analogy, but that is what it comes down to
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Antifar posted...

His hand-picked successor lost the governor's race in Maryland. He got like 2% last time out, and also nobody is looking at Baltimore for examples of good governance. Nobody wants The Mayor From The Wire

This. O'Malley benefited in the last race by just not being one of the two front runners. It's the same reason people still say "I guess Kasich is a swell guy" and think he's some super moderate Republican.
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Doom_Art posted...

Polycosm posted...

It's hard to say who the Democratic nominee will be... Bernie, Harris, Warren... even Franken still has a shot, imo.

Why does nobody ever mention O'Malley? Guy was governor of a state for 8 years> He's a legit candidate.

And Franken does not have a shit. As Balrog said, if he were a Republican maybe, but Dems tend to have higher standards on that sort of thing.

O'Malley is a wet noodle. He practically broke down crying on stage during the debates, telling us we have to ban guns and stop war.
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Balrog0 posted...

I mean, specifically because women are a larger share of primary voters for democrats than republicans

I am having a hard time making an appropriate analogy, but that is what it comes down to

No I know what you mean. I just wanted an excuse to act smug
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Franken's approval rating is 36% right now. In Minnesota.
http://kstp.com/news/survey-franken-job-approval-plummets-many-say-he-should-resign/4678569/
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Sanders is a shit candidate. A supporter of Venezuela. A guy who only pays 13.5% in taxes. He's nothing more than a snake oil salesman and a lair.
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Balrog0 posted...

also, petersen is running as a republican after running for president as a libertarian, I really doubt the party would want him at all but especially so close to his flipping

You make a good point, but I'm betting that the Libertarian party will welcome him back. Petersen's policy positions haven't changed-- only the letter next to his name. I don't think that his voter base from 2016 will turn on him so quickly. Also, Johnson and Weld were Republican governors. Admittedly, there was a significant amount of resistance to Weld, but he was still voted in as the vice presidential nominee (not simply selected by Johnson).
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If Bernie was to run I do think it's extremely likely he would win the ticket this time around. Far more name recognition than he had at the start of the primary season and despite what people believe I think the DNC would hop on board once the field, which is going to be huge mind you, inevitably narrows to him. His pure popularity alone and likability in terms of public perception compared to Trump would force people onto his side.

That said I'm not totally convinced he'd run at all. However if that's the case then I DO expect him to endorse someone relatively younger with no baggage who will likely reap all the benefits from Bernie. I've said it before but I think Jeff Merkley, if he can somehow gain popularity, stands a real chance of making some noise.
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Steve Nick posted...

O'Malley is a wet noodle

I mean yes, but I think we should at least include the guy in our considerations.

But yeah I kinda agree with Antifar on him I suppose.

Antifar posted...

Franken's approval rating is 36% right now. In Minnesota.
http://kstp.com/news/survey-franken-job-approval-plummets-many-say-he-should-resign/4678569/

Just step down and appoint Ellison already. Jeez
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

If Bernie was to run I do think it's extremely likely he would win the ticket this time around. Far more name recognition than he had at the start of the primary season and despite what people believe I think the DNC would hop on board once the field, which is going to be huge mind you, inevitably narrows to him. His pure popularity alone and likability in terms of public perception compared to Trump would force people onto his side.

That said I'm not totally convinced he'd run at all. However if that's the case then I DO expect him to endorse someone relatively younger with no baggage who will likely reap all the benefits from Bernie. I've said it before but I think Jeff Merkley, if he can somehow gain popularity, stands a real chance of making some noise.

Just for reference, there was a politician in 2012 gearing up for a run who had a higher approval rating than Bernie Sanders does now.

Things change.
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I am personally hoping that Steve Bullock runs, even though I do not see any path for him to win the nomination.

I would probably campaign for him
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I would probably vote for The Rock over Trump, but if it came down to that it would split the vote like with Ross Perot and give the White House to a communist. We can't let that happen.
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>2017
>thinking Bernie is a sellout/shill

ISHYGDDT
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Bernie will be 79 in 2020 :|
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

I've said it before but I think Jeff Merkley, if he can somehow gain popularity, stands a real chance of making some noise.

I always forget about Merkley, but he would be a good choice.

He looks like my dad though, which kinda creeps me out.

Balrog0 posted...

I am personally hoping that Steve Bullock runs, even though I do not see any path for him to win the nomination.

People keep tossing Bullock around as a choice. Governor of Montana would be a good antidote to the whole "coastal elite" thing.

Don't know a ton about the man himself though.
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Doom_Art posted...

Just step down and appoint Ellison already. Jeez

No reason to appoint Ellison. Then you have to appoint someone to Ellison's seat.

I'd obviously prefer him over some people, but I'm not a fan of five-way shuffles to fill seats or the idea of being a Senator as a "promotion" from representative.
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r4X0r posted...

Bernie Sanders turned out to be just as much of a sellout as the rest of them. That, on top of "We're just going to make everything free!" not passing the sniff test with the intelligent voter, he's got no chance.

Credit where credit's due though, he's easily the best liar politics has ever seen because he lies by omission, instead of just throwing a lie out there and letting the media cover.

He really is a textbook definition of a champagne socialist who's only popular because he promises free shit for the gimme gimme me me generation.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

If Bernie was to run I do think it's extremely likely he would win the ticket this time around. Far more name recognition than he had at the start of the primary season and despite what people believe I think the DNC would hop on board once the field, which is going to be huge mind you, inevitably narrows to him. His pure popularity alone and likability in terms of public perception compared to Trump would force people onto his side.

That said I'm not totally convinced he'd run at all. However if that's the case then I DO expect him to endorse someone relatively younger with no baggage who will likely reap all the benefits from Bernie. I've said it before but I think Jeff Merkley, if he can somehow gain popularity, stands a real chance of making some noise.

The problem is, I don't think it'll be the same Bernie that was running before. It feels like he has been captured by the establishment. They've used anti-Trump rhetoric to drag him into their fold and 'unify' him with them.
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Sad_Face posted...

I really want see more candidates that people want in the White house because they believe in the candidates' visions for the country.

This holy shit if America didn't learn from 2016s clusterfuck there is no hope
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Kolibri X posted...

r4X0r posted...

Bernie Sanders turned out to be just as much of a sellout as the rest of them. That, on top of "We're just going to make everything free!" not passing the sniff test with the intelligent voter, he's got no chance.

Credit where credit's due though, he's easily the best liar politics has ever seen because he lies by omission, instead of just throwing a lie out there and letting the media cover.

He really is a textbook definition of a champagne socialist who's only popular because he promises free shit for the gimme gimme me me generation.

I think it's more that people would like to give slightly less money to billion dollar corporations, and slightly more money to healthcare.
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