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ToPoPO
12/06/17 10:17:46 PM
#358:


Zeeak4444 posted...
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Why did she kill herself instead of going down a different career path?

It's next to impossible for a professional porn star like her to just change careers.

You can see Bree Olson somewhat talking about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NyzCJx4IiI


You can make the argument about personal choice and how nobody forced them into it, etc. but the point is that once you've done it, it's next to impossible to actually just transition into a normal life after that.


I haven't watched the video yet so I won't comment on it specifically but I get the crux of the argument, it still doesn't justify what's been said at times.

Mainly on two points:
1) it's not exclusive to them for a few reasons. Anything from people who worked with paper their whole life having no applicable skills to be competitive with the fresh blood to labor once your body goes. Not the same situation but it is the same result. people blackballed from their field. People who have worked low skill jobs are almost guaranteed to be locked there for life without pursuing a degeee. We could make arguments for anything from prisoners to soldiers to just general old people discriminated against in subtle manners. It sucks, she has my empathy, but no more so than swaths of people out there.

2) Normal job is redundant these days. With that type of fan base she could go cammodel and be perfectly fine. Not once has that been mentioned, nor has private company been mentioned. LIttle Caprice runs her own shit for a reason.

Even if she wanted to get out of porn she could host parties, organize adult events. Endless options.

People are acting like she has it worse than 80% of the population when the opposite is actually true.

Edit: to clarify, empathy about the work deal. Not about the suicide, nothing I have said in this topic has been in relation to her suicide.


Anyone wanna touch this? I'm still super confused how so many people think she was destined to go poor regardless of what she tried.


the fuck are you smoking? She wasn't going to go poor and no one said so, she was married and her husband was a porn director.
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Zeeak4444
12/06/17 10:19:30 PM
#359:


ToPoPO posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Gamer99z posted...
RE_expert44 posted...
Why did she kill herself instead of going down a different career path?

It's next to impossible for a professional porn star like her to just change careers.

You can see Bree Olson somewhat talking about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NyzCJx4IiI


You can make the argument about personal choice and how nobody forced them into it, etc. but the point is that once you've done it, it's next to impossible to actually just transition into a normal life after that.


I haven't watched the video yet so I won't comment on it specifically but I get the crux of the argument, it still doesn't justify what's been said at times.

Mainly on two points:
1) it's not exclusive to them for a few reasons. Anything from people who worked with paper their whole life having no applicable skills to be competitive with the fresh blood to labor once your body goes. Not the same situation but it is the same result. people blackballed from their field. People who have worked low skill jobs are almost guaranteed to be locked there for life without pursuing a degeee. We could make arguments for anything from prisoners to soldiers to just general old people discriminated against in subtle manners. It sucks, she has my empathy, but no more so than swaths of people out there.

2) Normal job is redundant these days. With that type of fan base she could go cammodel and be perfectly fine. Not once has that been mentioned, nor has private company been mentioned. LIttle Caprice runs her own shit for a reason.

Even if she wanted to get out of porn she could host parties, organize adult events. Endless options.

People are acting like she has it worse than 80% of the population when the opposite is actually true.

Edit: to clarify, empathy about the work deal. Not about the suicide, nothing I have said in this topic has been in relation to her suicide.


Anyone wanna touch this? I'm still super confused how so many people think she was destined to go poor regardless of what she tried.


the fuck are you smoking? She wasn't going to go poor and no one said so, she was married and her husband was a porn director.


In the context of this topic that's been the crux of almost every argument. I've been called bigoted and ignorant by no less than 5 users due to suggesting she wasn't going to die in a ditch.
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Gamer99z
12/06/17 10:25:28 PM
#364:


Zeeak4444 posted...
@Gamer99z posted...
RE_expert44 posted...
Why did she kill herself instead of going down a different career path?

It's next to impossible for a professional porn star like her to just change careers.

You can see Bree Olson somewhat talking about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NyzCJx4IiI


You can make the argument about personal choice and how nobody forced them into it, etc. but the point is that once you've done it, it's next to impossible to actually just transition into a normal life after that.


I haven't watched the video yet so I won't comment on it specifically but I get the crux of the argument, it still doesn't justify what's been said at times.

Mainly on two points:
1) it's not exclusive to them for a few reasons. Anything from people who worked with paper their whole life having no applicable skills to be competitive with the fresh blood in the scope of things. Not the same situation but it is the same result. people blackballed from their field. People who have worked low skill jobs are almost guaranteed to be locked there for life without pursuing a degeee. We could make arguments for anything from prisoners to soldiers to just general old people discriminated against in subtle manners. It sucks, she has my empathy, but no more so than swaths of people out there.

2) Normal job is redundant these days. With that type of fan base she could go cammodel and be perfectly fine. Not once has that been mentioned, nor has private company been mentioned. LIttle Caprice runs her own shit for a reason.

Even if she wanted to get out of porn she could host parties, organize adult events. Endless options.

People are acting like she has it worse than 80% of the population when the opposite is actually true.

Edit: to clarify, empathy about the work deal. Not about the suicide, nothing I have said in this topic has been in relation to her suicide.

Edit 2: tagging in case you missed it after that influx of posts.


I agree that there are options and that a lot of it is self imposed to an extent. When you've got someone like her who's seemingly been doing professional porn since as soon as she was of legal age to do so and didn't pursue other options like college during that time, it can be hard to go from making like 10k a month out in Los Angeles shooting porn and then the only other thing you're qualified to do is flip patties at McDonald's for minimum wage. It's hard to break that cycle at that point and just stop doing porn or change to another career, especially with how you're treated just in your day to day life. Even if you try to go to school and pursue other options you run into issues where you can face discrimination if you try to join a more professional workplace and field on par with that of a convicted felon or something.

And yeah you can get into cam work and stuff but that's hardly really considered changing careers, you're still ultimately stuck in the same place with the same type of work and in the case of someone like Bree in the video, she wanted out of that type of work all together.

In local news out here a little while back there was a teacher that got fired for having done porn like a decade ago once and her ex bf sent an email to someone at the school district about it when they broke up.
I'm not saying porn stars necessarily have it worse than other people in similar positions of being low skilled workers or for other types of discrimination such as being a convict (which is pretty fucked up that porn stars face discrimination on par with criminals) but that simply saying to change careers isn't really always a realistic option for most professional porn stars on the level August was.
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oarphishmoe
12/06/17 10:27:40 PM
#366:


Funbazooka posted...
Not that it's quite the equivalent comparison... but yeah maybe you shouldn't let either of those trigger you.

Here are the options:

Go to a different bakery.

Find a different female porn star start to fuck.


Literally this. So simple yet people are so stupid.
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Zeeak4444
12/06/17 10:27:51 PM
#367:


@ClunkerSlim posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
2) Normal job is redundant these days. With that type of fan base she could go cammodel and be perfectly fine

Yeah... thats not true. Cam models get turned on the hardest. If the internet turns on you then they will shut you down. And most streaming sites will cut you lose if you start causing problems.


So go indepent with your own website you don't want to go with a company.

As for the other part obviously if the internet turns on you then you don't make money. That's how it is for everyone, which is why I included alternatives if she got out of porn all together.

That's why I asked multiple times earlier what the goal is. I mean, people falling on hard times is nothing new. She has more resources at her disposal for pivoting to something else than the majority of the nation.

You can hate the porn industry. I personally do. That's about it though. You can hate society for not sticking with you but that's nothing unique.
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Bio1590
12/06/17 10:33:47 PM
#368:


Tryhaptaward posted...
What a coincidence, FamilyHeritage pops up after OpheliaAdenade happens to be suspended

I don't think it's Ophelia. "FamilyHeritage" sounds like a Madfoot gimmick name or a Hoth alt.
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Zeeak4444
12/06/17 10:38:07 PM
#369:


@Gamer99z

I agree 100% and I remember the case you're talking about.

I mean I personally hate society in general because of situations like this or with that teacher. It's a fickle bitch of a situation in general but don't get me wrong while I'm saying the things I say I am exactly where you're at; it's shitty they turned on her, that her fans didn't back her (apparently) but also offset but someone who's made really really good money but didn't invest the money nor did she invest in herself.

I'm trying to stay away from her suicide as a whole because that's a completely different topic all together IMO but for her work situation it's just another one who's fallen through the cracks. I have more empathy than I can express for the broken, the beaten, and the damned, but I feel like the job topic is pretty open and shut.

No publicity is bad publicity, just gotta spin it to something that works for you these days.
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Oakland510_
12/07/17 12:04:13 AM
#370:


wtf I just seen a few scenes of her recently wtf
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Sexypwnstar
12/07/17 12:12:26 AM
#371:


jimbiz posted...
I dont agree with OpheliaAdenade but did he really get suspended for posting his opinions?
Wow softfaqs strikes again


Oh btw I remember what Ophelia got suspended for, it was for saying she was already in hell and burning

It was really fucked up

@jimbiz
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Dark_SilverX
12/07/17 12:33:51 AM
#372:


Film director + pornstar wife = cuckmaster
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CADE FOSTER
12/07/17 12:37:01 AM
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Corrik
12/07/17 12:58:12 AM
#374:


Veggeta X posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Was she the one that was super hot that completely ruined herself with plastic surgery?

Naw there's a chick that kinda looks like her who I know who you're talking about tho

Lela Star? Tried to become Kim Kardashian.
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Bio1590
12/07/17 1:16:43 AM
#375:


No I'm not thinking of Lela Star. I'm not hunting down pics on mobile but I'm 100% sure August Ames was Donatella Versace-ing herself.
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KazumaKiryu
12/07/17 1:19:58 AM
#376:


I don't know this woman, but I am heartbroken for her. Disgusting fucking people in this world.
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Questionmarktarius
12/07/17 1:33:05 AM
#377:


KazumaKiryu posted...
I don't know this woman, but I am heartbroken for her. Disgusting fucking people in this world.

There's no reason to be sad about a suicide. It was her life to no longer live.
You can be angry at the assholes who encouraged it, but suicide is the ultimate right of liberty and body autonomy.
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Gamer99z
12/07/17 1:45:44 AM
#378:


Questionmarktarius posted...
There's no reason to be sad about a suicide.

In a topic full of stupid posts it takes a lot of work to make one stand out at this point, but you managed to do it. Congratulations.
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kkTheKiller42
12/07/17 1:46:34 AM
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Questionmarktarius
12/07/17 1:49:27 AM
#380:


Gamer99z posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
There's no reason to be sad about a suicide.

In a topic full of stupid posts it takes a lot of work to make one stand out at this point, but you managed to do it. Congratulations.

Whoo! Shitposter levelup!!

Seriously, though, if you believe at all in body autonomy, then suicide is an inherent right.
The only real reason to be sad at all, is for the people still alive, much like how a funeral isn't for the corpse.
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Gamer99z
12/07/17 1:58:01 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Gamer99z posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
There's no reason to be sad about a suicide.

In a topic full of stupid posts it takes a lot of work to make one stand out at this point, but you managed to do it. Congratulations.

Whoo! Shitposter levelup!!

Seriously, though, if you believe at all in body autonomy, then suicide is an inherent right.
The only real reason to be sad at all, is for the people still alive, much like how a funeral isn't for the corpse.

I do believe it's someone's right, but to say you shouldn't feel bad for a suicide is dumb because it's generally a tragic situation that led them to suicide and they more than likely didn't legitimately want to die anyways but just saw it as the best option for them.
There's everything to be sad about when someone feels like their best option was to end their own life.
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Questionmarktarius
12/07/17 1:59:03 AM
#382:


Gamer99z posted...
There's everything to be sad about when someone feels like their best option was to end their own life.

Okay. I'll concede that.
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JxOxNxIxCxS
12/07/17 2:00:09 AM
#383:


GeneralZhao posted...
holy shit

edit: she was 23 to


Christ, shes only 23????
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Resolution
12/07/17 7:44:37 AM
#384:


Gamer99z posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Gamer99z posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
There's no reason to be sad about a suicide.

In a topic full of stupid posts it takes a lot of work to make one stand out at this point, but you managed to do it. Congratulations.

Whoo! Shitposter levelup!!

Seriously, though, if you believe at all in body autonomy, then suicide is an inherent right.
The only real reason to be sad at all, is for the people still alive, much like how a funeral isn't for the corpse.

I do believe it's someone's right, but to say you shouldn't feel bad for a suicide is dumb because it's generally a tragic situation that led them to suicide and they more than likely didn't legitimately want to die anyways but just saw it as the best option for them.
There's everything to be sad about when someone feels like their best option was to end their own life.


I'm of the opinion that nobody really wants to end their own life, they just want the source of the pain to stop, and in many cases it's not feasible
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DaemMkIV7
12/07/17 7:56:51 AM
#385:


Fuck the people who caused her death.
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DKFjalfe
12/07/17 8:33:52 AM
#386:


DaemMkIV7 posted...
Fuck the people who caused her death.

So fuck herself?
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action52
12/07/17 8:42:26 AM
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I hope this comes as a lesson to people that bullying ain't cool, even when you're right.

I do think the criticisms of porn stars who refuse to do scenes for bigoted reasons is justified. At the same time, there always seem to be people who use stuff like this as an excuse to attack, attack, attack and be as mean or vicious as they want without worrying about facing negative consequences.

With things like this it's important to look at yourself honestly and ask... am I really trying to make things better? Or just trying to make myself feel good by tearing someone else down?

And also more people who aren't involved in the industry need to butt out.
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Thugstar
12/07/17 8:46:15 AM
#388:


Ironic how someone in porn who wants respect for what they do doesn't respect others for their sexuality. Having outdated morals isn't cool. She payed the price for it.
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Vyrulisse
12/07/17 8:47:11 AM
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Thugstar posted...
Ironic how someone in porn who wants respect for what they do doesn't respect others for their sexuality. Having outdated morals isn't cool. She payed the price for it.

Wow. It wasn't really about sexuality at all.
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pinky0926
12/07/17 8:50:58 AM
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I think it's quite presumptuous to think it was just some online bullying that led to this. I very much doubt this is all that was going on in her life.
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Gamer99z
12/07/17 8:53:28 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
I think it's quite presumptuous to think it was just some online bullying that led to this. I very much doubt this is all that was going on in her life.

Yeah, it would take a really strong tendency to make impulsive decisions if she was just living a perfectly happy life and then over a matter of two days decided to kill herself over this. It might've been what pushed her over the edge but I seriously doubt it would be the primary reason.
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Funkydog
12/07/17 8:57:29 AM
#392:


Gamer99z posted...
pinky0926 posted...
I think it's quite presumptuous to think it was just some online bullying that led to this. I very much doubt this is all that was going on in her life.

Yeah, it would take a really strong tendency to make impulsive decisions if she was just living a perfectly happy life and then over a matter of two days decided to kill herself over this. It might've been what pushed her over the edge but I seriously doubt it would be the primary reason.

Well, yes. People who tend to commit suicide from bullying tend to be in a pretty dark place when it happens. She was probably in one, and all this just pushed her over the edge/the point she could cope.

Doesn't change the fact that the people who sent her death threats and the level of abuse they did are anything but monsters.
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action52
12/07/17 9:10:26 AM
#394:


pinky0926 said what I was thinking, and considering posting, but decided against it for the reasons explained in later posts.

She probably didn't commit suicide only because of the bullying but that doesn't excuse the bullies from sadistically pushing her over the edge.
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Funkydog
12/07/17 9:13:20 AM
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Thugstar posted...
They aren't monsters. She offended and provoked an entire community. Actions cause reactions.

Those who told her to kill herself are monsters.
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Cocytus
12/07/17 9:15:12 AM
#397:


Didn't know her, but RIP. A million years too young. I wish someone could have intervened. Things would have gotten better. RIP.
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pinky0926
12/07/17 9:15:22 AM
#398:


action52 posted...
pinky0926 said what I was thinking, and considering posting, but decided against it for the reasons explained in later posts.

She probably didn't commit suicide only because of the bullying but that doesn't excuse the bullies from sadistically pushing her over the edge.


Also agree with this with this.
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Funkydog
12/07/17 9:30:49 AM
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Thugstar posted...
Funkydog posted...
Thugstar posted...
They aren't monsters. She offended and provoked an entire community. Actions cause reactions.

Those who told her to kill herself are monsters.

It's just an expression of anger. You take everything people say literally?

Doesn't ever excusing telling someone to kill themselves. People can disagree with someone without resorting to such shittiness.
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12/07/17 2:51:45 PM
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MattSFfrd
12/07/17 3:38:38 PM
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good job SJWs, driving somebody to suicide. disgusting.
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eston
12/07/17 3:41:16 PM
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James Deen was accused of raping multiple people and he still gets work. This chick was married to a long-time porn director, her career would not have been over from those comments she made.
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Funbazooka
12/07/17 3:43:55 PM
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They believe their "virtue" justifies any actions they make but they're actually morally bankrupt dregs of society.
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Zeeak4444
12/07/17 3:50:03 PM
#406:


ClunkerSlim posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
So go indepent with your own website you don't want to go with a company

And get DDoS into oblivion? Theres no way that would work. Any internet based job is where public opinion is going to matter the most. Because it only takes a handful of dedicated trolls to shut you down.

As for work outside of the industry? Thats going to be hit and miss too. Its bad enough that no company wants to hire a former pornstar. But if these same assholes were really set on destroying her life then they could make her job life impossible with repeated phones calls and press. Working outside the industry was no slam dunk for her.


I mean I agree with you but there's no resolution to be had. You can't compain it's unfair the public doesn't want to support you because that's nothing unique to the situation.

In reality it's just another celeb out of the limelight who's got little to no skills for a normal job.

I find it hard to believe she couldn't become an event planner or something of the like though. Sure she might not have been able to but it's no more likely than her being able to.

The harassment and bullying sucks and that shit should be looked into but outside that it's like I said, just another person who's falling through the cracks. At least she made really good money until that point, most people in the same type of situation don't.
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Questionmarktarius
12/07/17 5:19:19 PM
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I wonder if there's more to this than just internet trolls.
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Gamer99z
12/07/17 5:51:30 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
So go indepent with your own website you don't want to go with a company

And get DDoS into oblivion? Theres no way that would work. Any internet based job is where public opinion is going to matter the most. Because it only takes a handful of dedicated trolls to shut you down.

As for work outside of the industry? Thats going to be hit and miss too. Its bad enough that no company wants to hire a former pornstar. But if these same assholes were really set on destroying her life then they could make her job life impossible with repeated phones calls and press. Working outside the industry was no slam dunk for her.


I mean I agree with you but there's no resolution to be had. You can't compain it's unfair the public doesn't want to support you because that's nothing unique to the situation.

In reality it's just another celeb out of the limelight who's got little to no skills for a normal job.

I find it hard to believe she couldn't become an event planner or something of the like though. Sure she might not have been able to but it's no more likely than her being able to.

The harassment and bullying sucks and that shit should be looked into but outside that it's like I said, just another person who's falling through the cracks. At least she made really good money until that point, most people in the same type of situation don't.

I agree with you but I just felt like adding in, not just because of this post, but also the last one to me where you mentioned how dumb it is making that much money and not bettering yourself while you were making it as a safety net. Obviously that's the smart thing to do, but there's also an important discussion to be had about the predatory tactics of some of these professional porn companies and other shady tactics.
They find young girls who are on the cusp of being legal who likely come from situations that aren't great and basically try to talk them into this gig of only doing it however many times just to make some quick money, etc. and will intentionally manipulate vulnerable people into getting sucked into more and more. As well as it being a known issue of people in the industry pushing drugs and other addictive substances onto people who might already be at an increased risk of addiction due to past issues that even got them to that position. As well as people convincing you to invest in yourself, as in surgeries and the like and that it can make you more profitable and such, which many people, again due to past issues, are probably at a higher rate of developing problems with like physical insecurity and the like which can lead to legitimate addictions to those kinds of surgeries and procedures.
Next thing you know you're in a situation where the fact that you're a porn star is going to follow you everywhere, you're older than when you started, unskilled, and don't have anything to fall back on. The only thing you're really qualified to do is other sex industry work or potentially other types of social media or socialite activities if you're lucky or just turn to retail, waitressing, patty flipping, etc. where you'll still face discrimination but at least be working, but getting paid shit compared to what you were and if you're in a major porn city like LA with insane costs of living, you might be in a situation where you feel like the only short term option you have to make it by is to do porn again, which also gets you back around those scummy people who ultimately profit off you being kept down.

Again, as a disclaimer I'm not trying to paint these people as flawless individuals and remove their personal choices and consequences, I'm just saying there's a larger discussion to be had as well and it's not all black and white.
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Newhopes
12/07/17 6:26:38 PM
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SJW doing what they do best, hound people.
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