Current Events > Reminder: The Bible specifically condones Rape as long as you give Compensation

Topic List	Page List: 1, 2, 3
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 7:02:40 PM #1:	Deuteronomy 22:28-29 New International Version (NIV) 28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. These are the types of religious values that Roy Moore / Donald Trump / etc., and his supporters want to preserve.. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891848195] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>Deuteronomy 22:28-29 New International Version (NIV) 28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. These are the types of religious values that Roy Moore / Donald Trump / etc., and his supporters want to preserve..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YookaLaylee 12/08/17 7:03:52 PM #2:	Is Donald Trump even religious? --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsuNHaqCPgziZYA/giphy.gif <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:891848270] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>Is Donald Trump even religious?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/08/17 7:04:38 PM #3:	28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days. Wrong. Another failure of a BBT topic. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:891848311] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><quote>28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.</quote> Wrong. Another failure of a BBT topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UncleBourbon33 12/08/17 7:04:42 PM #4:	You're a real piece of work, TC. I'd like to see you get wrecked by someone who actually knows what they're talking about. --- "Wanting something doesn't make it a human right." https://i.imgur.com/aqrImUY.gif <cite>UncleBourbon33 posted [p:891848318] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>You're a real piece of work, TC. I'd like to see you get wrecked by someone who actually knows what they're talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 12/08/17 7:04:59 PM #5:	It's not condoning the act, it's outlining the punishment for it. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:891848330] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>It's not condoning the act, it's outlining the punishment for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 12/08/17 7:05:38 PM #6:	The bible is like the constitution: they did the best they could at the time, but times change and they haven't kept up. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:891848364] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>The bible is like the constitution: they did the best they could at the time, but times change and they haven't kept up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 7:06:43 PM #7:	r4X0r posted... It's not condoning the act, it's outlining the punishment for it. *as long as you give Compensation* --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891848414] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>It's not condoning the act, it's outlining the punishment for it.</quote> as long as you give Compensation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 12/08/17 7:07:49 PM #8:	That compensation is paying for damages. It's part of the punishment. What part of this aren't you getting? --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:891848473] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>That compensation is paying for damages. It's part of the punishment. What part of this aren't you getting?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
#9	Post #9 was unavailable or deleted.
r4X0r 12/08/17 7:09:09 PM #10:	16-BITTER posted... ITT having sex with an unmarried virgin = rape ok When it specifically says rape, yes, it is. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:891848564] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>16-BITTER posted...</cite> <quote>ITT having sex with an unmarried virgin = rape ok</quote> When it specifically says rape, yes, it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 12/08/17 7:09:28 PM #11:	wait, so is the forced marriage part of the punishment too? I thought marriage was a beautiful sacred thing tho? --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:891848581] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>wait, so is the forced marriage part of the punishment too? I thought marriage was a beautiful sacred thing tho?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 7:10:00 PM #12:	r4X0r posted... That compensation is paying for damages. It's part of the punishment. What part of this aren't you getting? Simply paying for damages isn't punishment for a crime. So are you saying that Weinstein has already been punished enough because he's already paid settlements to the women that he's assaulted or harassed? --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891848608] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>That compensation is paying for damages. It's part of the punishment. What part of this aren't you getting?</quote> Simply paying for damages isn't punishment for a crime. So are you saying that Weinstein has already been punished enough because he's already paid settlements to the women that he's assaulted or harassed?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 12/08/17 7:10:57 PM #13:	lilORANG posted... wait, so is the forced marriage part of the punishment too? I thought marriage was a beautiful sacred thing tho? Of course it's part of the punishment. The man has to take care of the girl for the rest of his life. Being an unpure, unmarried female in those days was a life of destitution at best and a death sentence at worst. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:891848653] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>lilORANG posted...</cite> <quote>wait, so is the forced marriage part of the punishment too? I thought marriage was a beautiful sacred thing tho?</quote> Of course it's part of the punishment. The man has to take care of the girl for the rest of his life. Being an unpure, unmarried female in those days was a life of destitution at best and a death sentence at worst.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/08/17 7:11:28 PM #14:	r4X0r posted... 16-BITTER posted... ITT having sex with an unmarried virgin = rape ok When it specifically says rape, yes, it is. No it doesn't, that one translation (which is known to be the less accurate) uses the word rape. The original text does not. This is a poor translation as having sex with a virgin outside of marriage is considered a "violation." This was said to make women impure and undesirable in those days, which is why this penalty exists. This is not discussing forcible rape. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:891848678] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>16-BITTER posted...</cite> <quote>ITT having sex with an unmarried virgin = rape ok</quote> When it specifically says rape, yes, it is.</quote> No it doesn't, that one translation (which is known to be the less accurate) uses the word rape. The original text does not. This is a poor translation as having sex with a virgin outside of marriage is considered a "violation." This was said to make women impure and undesirable in those days, which is why this penalty exists. This is not discussing forcible rape.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gafemaqs 12/08/17 7:12:00 PM #15:	Noah cursed his son because he was being a naked, drunken fool and his son saw his wang lol --- You're being trolled. Get over it. <cite>gafemaqs posted [p:891848703] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>Noah cursed his son because he was being a naked, drunken fool and his son saw his wang lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 7:12:30 PM #16:	r4X0r posted... The man has to take care of the girl for the rest of his life. And the girl is now legally forced to get raped by her rapist for the rest of her life. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891848726] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>The man has to take care of the girl for the rest of his life.</quote> And the girl is now legally forced to get raped by her rapist for the rest of her life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forlorn_Ass 12/08/17 7:13:31 PM #17:	Old Testament so it doesnt matter. --- Her cheeks wobble around like water balloons on a trampoline. <cite>Forlorn_Ass posted [p:891848777] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>Old Testament so it doesnt matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 7:14:33 PM #18:	Forlorn_Ass posted... Old Testament so it doesnt matter. The Ten Commandments doesn't matter then. Exodus doesn't matter then. Adam and Eve doesn't matter then. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891848832] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Forlorn_Ass posted...</cite> <quote>Old Testament so it doesnt matter.</quote> The Ten Commandments doesn't matter then. Exodus doesn't matter then. Adam and Eve doesn't matter then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 12/08/17 7:15:02 PM #19:	the man only needs to pay her father if he rapes her in the countryside if he rapes her in the city then the punishment if for her to be taken to the middle of town and have stones thrown at her until she is dead because if she wasnt a dirty whore who secretly wanted it god would have saved her --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:891848859] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>the man only needs to pay her father if he rapes her in the countryside if he rapes her in the city then the punishment if for her to be taken to the middle of town and have stones thrown at her until she is dead because if she wasnt a dirty whore who secretly wanted it god would have saved her</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 12/08/17 7:15:08 PM #20:	The Admiral posted... r4X0r posted... 16-BITTER posted... ITT having sex with an unmarried virgin = rape ok When it specifically says rape, yes, it is. No it doesn't, that one translation (which is known to be the less accurate) uses the word rape. The original text does not. This is a poor translation as having sex outside of marriage is considered a "violation." This was said to make women impure and undesirable in those days, which is why this penalty exists. This is not discussing forcible rape. Even the version he uses has the phrase "they are discovered" which is quite telling. It makes it clear that is a mutual act. Also rape had a different connotation in a lot of ancient texts, which could imply force, but also more of an elopement. I'm not sure if that is true in the Biblical context though. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. \| I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus <cite>Callixtus posted [p:891848862] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>16-BITTER posted...</cite> <quote>ITT having sex with an unmarried virgin = rape ok</quote> When it specifically says rape, yes, it is.</quote> No it doesn't, that one translation (which is known to be the less accurate) uses the word rape. The original text does not. This is a poor translation as having sex outside of marriage is considered a "violation." This was said to make women impure and undesirable in those days, which is why this penalty exists. This is not discussing forcible rape.</quote> Even the version he uses has the phrase "they are discovered" which is quite telling. It makes it clear that is a mutual act. Also rape had a different connotation in a lot of ancient texts, which could imply force, but also more of an elopement. I'm not sure if that is true in the Biblical context though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 12/08/17 7:16:50 PM #21:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... r4X0r posted... That compensation is paying for damages. It's part of the punishment. What part of this aren't you getting? Simply paying for damages isn't punishment for a crime. So are you saying that Weinstein has already been punished enough because he's already paid settlements to the women that he's assaulted or harassed? Deuteronomy WAS the law, that's what you're not getting. The legal punishment for the crime of rape was paying compensation and taking care of the girl for the rest of your life. What the hell does Harvey Weinstein and the American justice system have to do with that? Nothing but an attempt to troll my character. The Admiral posted... r4X0r posted... 16-BITTER posted... ITT having sex with an unmarried virgin = rape ok When it specifically says rape, yes, it is. No it doesn't, that one translation (which is known to be the less accurate) uses the word rape. The original text does not. This is a poor translation as having sex outside of marriage is considered a "violation." This was said to make women impure and undesirable in those days, which is why this penalty exists. This is not discussing forcible rape. NIV is a WIDELY accepted translation. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:891848953] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>That compensation is paying for damages. It's part of the punishment. What part of this aren't you getting?</quote> Simply paying for damages isn't punishment for a crime. So are you saying that Weinstein has already been punished enough because he's already paid settlements to the women that he's assaulted or harassed?</quote> Deuteronomy WAS the law, that's what you're not getting. The legal punishment for the crime of rape was paying compensation and taking care of the girl for the rest of your life. What the hell does Harvey Weinstein and the American justice system have to do with that? Nothing but an attempt to troll my character. <cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>16-BITTER posted...</cite> <quote>ITT having sex with an unmarried virgin = rape ok</quote> When it specifically says rape, yes, it is.</quote> No it doesn't, that one translation (which is known to be the less accurate) uses the word rape. The original text does not. This is a poor translation as having sex outside of marriage is considered a "violation." This was said to make women impure and undesirable in those days, which is why this penalty exists. This is not discussing forcible rape.</quote> NIV is a WIDELY accepted translation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iamintents 12/08/17 7:20:05 PM #22:	YookaLaylee posted... Is Donald Trump even religious? only when convenient --- http://i.imgur.com/rCECrB9.gif <cite>iamintents posted [p:891849115] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>YookaLaylee posted...</cite> <quote>Is Donald Trump even religious?</quote> only when convenient</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 12/08/17 7:20:15 PM #23:	The Admiral posted... No it doesn't, that one translation (which is known to be the less accurate) uses the word rape. The original text does not. This is a poor translation as having sex outside of marriage is considered a "violation." This was said to make women impure and undesirable in those days, which is why this penalty exists. This is not discussing forcible rape. You're using the King James version, which is widely considered to be full of mistranslations. The NRSV is considered by biblical scholars to be the best translation into English and it says this: 28 If a man meets a virgin who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are caught in the act, 29 the man who lay with her shall give fifty shekels of silver to the young womans father, and she shall become his wife. Because he violated her he shall not be permitted to divorce her as long as he lives. The defense should not be "ahh a translation error!" but instead recognition that this, while considered barbaric in todays morals, was actually protection for women. If they had been raped, then she would struggle to get a husband and would continue to be a drain on her family's resources. It's not even about what we should use today, it's literally a group of sermons Moses said to the Israelites, not what is relevant today. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:891849124] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>No it doesn't, that one translation (which is known to be the less accurate) uses the word rape. The original text does not. This is a poor translation as having sex outside of marriage is considered a "violation." This was said to make women impure and undesirable in those days, which is why this penalty exists. This is not discussing forcible rape.</quote> You're using the King James version, which is widely considered to be full of mistranslations. The NRSV is considered by biblical scholars to be the best translation into English and it says this: 28 If a man meets a virgin who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are caught in the act, 29 the man who lay with her shall give fifty shekels of silver to the young womans father, and she shall become his wife. Because he violated her he shall not be permitted to divorce her as long as he lives. The defense should not be "ahh a translation error!" but instead recognition that this, while considered barbaric in todays morals, was actually protection for women. If they had been raped, then she would struggle to get a husband and would continue to be a drain on her family's resources. It's not even about what we should use today, it's literally a group of sermons Moses said to the Israelites, not what is relevant today.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 7:20:44 PM #24:	r4X0r posted... The legal punishment for the crime of rape was paying compensation and taking care of the girl for the rest of your life. Right, so according to the Bible, rape is okay as long as you do those things. AKA CONDONE. Just like we CONDONE sexual harassment today - so long as the victims are compensated. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891849148] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>The legal punishment for the crime of rape was paying compensation and taking care of the girl for the rest of your life.</quote> Right, so according to the Bible, rape is okay as long as you do those things. AKA CONDONE. Just like we CONDONE sexual harassment today - so long as the victims are compensated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/08/17 7:21:59 PM #25:	Hinakuluiau posted... It's not even about what we should use today, it's literally a group of sermons Moses said to the Israelites, not what is relevant today. This is true. And it's also not condoning rape. The TC is completely full of shit again, and his title is ignorant trolling. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:891849205] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hinakuluiau posted...</cite> <quote>It's not even about what we should use today, it's literally a group of sermons Moses said to the Israelites, not what is relevant today.</quote> This is true. And it's also not condoning rape. The TC is completely full of shit again, and his title is ignorant trolling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 12/08/17 7:22:05 PM #26:	So murder is condoned as long as you spend the rest of your life in jail? --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:891849207] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>So murder is condoned as long as you spend the rest of your life in jail?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
#27	Post #27 was unavailable or deleted.
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 7:23:01 PM #28:	DragonGirlYuki posted... So murder is condoned as long as you spend the rest of your life in jail? For people that support the death penalty - that's what they'd see it as. And jail is not compensation on the part of the perpetrator. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891849270] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>So murder is condoned as long as you spend the rest of your life in jail?</quote> For people that support the death penalty - that's what they'd see it as. And jail is not compensation on the part of the perpetrator.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 7:23:43 PM #29:	16-BITTER posted... By that logic, all crime is okay as long as you spend a certain amount of time in jail afterwards. Jail isn't compensation. The point of compensation is simply to pay for the damages, with no additional penalties. Jail doesn't do anything about that. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891849308] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>16-BITTER posted...</cite> <quote>By that logic, all crime is okay as long as you spend a certain amount of time in jail afterwards.</quote> Jail isn't compensation. The point of compensation is simply to pay for the damages, with no additional penalties. Jail doesn't do anything about that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 12/08/17 7:24:24 PM #30:	Jail is compensation to society for unwanted acts. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:891849343] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>Jail is compensation to society for unwanted acts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/08/17 7:24:53 PM #31:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... 16-BITTER posted... By that logic, all crime is okay as long as you spend a certain amount of time in jail afterwards. Jail isn't compensation. Civil suits for those crimes offer the victims and their families compensation. That's also part of our legal system. At what point are you taking your L here? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:891849373] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>16-BITTER posted...</cite> <quote>By that logic, all crime is okay as long as you spend a certain amount of time in jail afterwards.</quote> Jail isn't compensation.</quote> Civil suits for those crimes offer the victims and their families compensation. That's also part of our legal system. At what point are you taking your L here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 7:25:30 PM #32:	DragonGirlYuki posted... Jail is compensation to society for unwanted acts. No it's not. Society is paying for it, and it doesn't get anything back from the perpetrator. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891849420] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>Jail is compensation to society for unwanted acts.</quote> No it's not. Society is paying for it, and it doesn't get anything back from the perpetrator.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 7:26:13 PM #33:	The Admiral posted... Civil suits for those crimes offer the victims and their families compensation. That's also part of our legal system. Thank you for agreeing that rape and harassment is often condoned by society. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891849462] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Civil suits for those crimes offer the victims and their families compensation. That's also part of our legal system.</quote> Thank you for agreeing that rape and harassment is often condoned by society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 12/08/17 7:27:00 PM #34:	Here's some context from the King James Bible bringing more light to what is being discussed in that chapter of the Bible since tc is intent on shit posting and twisting the reality of the situation. These are laws put into place to try and make amends for transgressions against victims. Payment was made as part of it just like people in the US can sue for mental anguish outside of the actual infraction of the law. These laws looked out for women. While this last one isn't ideal and I wouldn't agree with it, I also have the mental capacity to understand context of the verse around the ones in the OP. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:891849505] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>Here's some context from the King James Bible bringing more light to what is being discussed in that chapter of the Bible since tc is intent on shit posting and twisting the reality of the situation. These are laws put into place to try and make amends for transgressions against victims. Payment was made as part of it just like people in the US can sue for mental anguish outside of the actual infraction of the law. These laws looked out for women. While this last one isn't ideal and I wouldn't agree with it, I also have the mental capacity to understand context of the verse around the ones in the OP. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/08/17 7:27:03 PM #35:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... The Admiral posted... Civil suits for those crimes offer the victims and their families compensation. That's also part of our legal system. Thank you for agreeing. I'm agreeing that you're a fool. Our legal system does not condone criminal acts just because it allows the victims to receive compensation. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:891849508] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Civil suits for those crimes offer the victims and their families compensation. That's also part of our legal system.</quote> Thank you for agreeing.</quote> I'm agreeing that you're a fool. Our legal system does not condone criminal acts just because it allows the victims to receive compensation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 12/08/17 7:27:14 PM #36:	Society benefits by removing a dangerous offender off the streets. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:891849521] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>Society benefits by removing a dangerous offender off the streets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 7:29:32 PM #37:	DragonGirlYuki posted... Society benefits by removing a dangerous offender off the streets. Society is paying for that removal - and therefore there's no compensation on the part of the perpetrator. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891849666] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>Society benefits by removing a dangerous offender off the streets.</quote> Society is paying for that removal - and therefore there's no compensation on the part of the perpetrator.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 7:30:18 PM #38:	The Admiral posted... Our legal system does not condone criminal acts just because it allows the victims to receive compensation. It does when it just leaves it at the simple act of compensation with no further penalties. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891849715] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Our legal system does not condone criminal acts just because it allows the victims to receive compensation.</quote> It does when it just leaves it at the simple act of compensation with no further penalties.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/08/17 7:30:58 PM #39:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... The Admiral posted... Our legal system does not condone criminal acts just because it allows the victims to receive compensation. It does when it just leaves it at the simple act of compensation with no further penalties. The man's penalty in the Bible quote is that he has to support the woman for the rest of his life. What are you talking about? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:891849752] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Our legal system does not condone criminal acts just because it allows the victims to receive compensation.</quote> It does when it just leaves it at the simple act of compensation with no further penalties.</quote> The man's penalty in the Bible quote is that he has to support the woman for the rest of his life. What are you talking about?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 7:32:38 PM #40:	The Admiral posted... The man's penalty in the Bible quote is that he has to support the woman for the rest of his life. What are you talking about? That's not a penalty, that's still compensation for taking away her honor. On the flip side, the girl, in being forced to marry her rapist, now must get raped by her rapist for the rest of her life. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891849837] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>The man's penalty in the Bible quote is that he has to support the woman for the rest of his life. What are you talking about?</quote> That's not a penalty, that's still compensation for taking away her honor. On the flip side, the girl, in being forced to marry her rapist, now must get raped by her rapist for the rest of her life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 12/08/17 7:36:01 PM #41:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... That's not a penalty, that's still compensation for taking away her honor. On the flip side, the girl, in being forced to marry her rapist, now must get raped by her rapist for the rest of her life. The alternative is that she never gets married and when her parents die will be stuck out on her own. It's the best option in a shitty situation. There's a lot to complain about religion, but this is a weird hill to die on. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:891850013] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>That's not a penalty, that's still compensation for taking away her honor. On the flip side, the girl, in being forced to marry her rapist, now must get raped by her rapist for the rest of her life.</quote> The alternative is that she never gets married and when her parents die will be stuck out on her own. It's the best option in a shitty situation. There's a lot to complain about religion, but this is a weird hill to die on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToonLinkWithGun 12/08/17 7:38:35 PM #42:	We Christians are under the New Covenant. Not the old. <cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted [p:891850141] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>We Christians are under the New Covenant. Not the old.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 12/08/17 7:39:19 PM #43:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... These are the types of religious values that Roy Moore / Donald Trump / etc., and his supporters want to preserve.. Yes, because none of these liberal stars being brought down tried to buy out their victims. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:891850185] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>These are the types of religious values that Roy Moore / Donald Trump / etc., and his supporters want to preserve.. </quote> Yes, because none of these liberal stars being brought down tried to buy out their victims.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 12/08/17 7:40:18 PM #44:	So the girl is considered "damaged property" and the man just has to marry her and pay her father. Yup, seems totally fair. <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:891850234] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>So the girl is considered "damaged property" and the man just has to marry her and pay her father. Yup, seems totally fair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
#45	Post #45 was unavailable or deleted.
FLUFFYGERM 12/08/17 7:41:58 PM #46:	TC really embarrassed himself in this topic --- but Marxist theory is extremely consistent, both internally and with reality. -averagejeol <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:891850341] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>TC really embarrassed himself in this topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bandit_Keith 12/08/17 7:44:55 PM #47:	As @thanosibe has already shown, forced rape was punishable by death in the bible. And the woman was free to go because being raped wasn't a crime. The scripture you are using means that if a man and a woman have sex out of wedlock, then the guy automatically has to marry her no matter what and can never leave her. Even still, what does old law from millennia ago have to do with the law of today? Christians read the old testament, but follow the religion of the new testament as best as it fits in the world today. But even that does not define the laws we live by today as a nation. You never have anything of value to post. --- http://i.imgur.com/nq0Fn6a.jpg <cite>Bandit_Keith posted [p:891850516] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote>As @thanosibe has already shown, forced rape was punishable by death in the bible. And the woman was free to go because being raped wasn't a crime. The scripture you are using means that if a man and a woman have sex out of wedlock, then the guy automatically has to marry her no matter what and can never leave her. Even still, what does old law from millennia ago have to do with the law of today? Christians read the old testament, but follow the religion of the new testament as best as it fits in the world today. But even that does not define the laws we live by today as a nation. You never have anything of value to post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/08/17 7:45:03 PM #48:	ThanksUglyGod posted... So the girl is considered "damaged property" and the man just has to marry her and pay her father. Yup, seems totally fair. Not considered damaged property by God, but by the society at the time. Marriage was the one way of giving her at least a little hope she wouldn't be at the absolute bottom of society and a way to try and salvage a bad situation. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891850526] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote>So the girl is considered "damaged property" and the man just has to marry her and pay her father. Yup, seems totally fair.</quote> Not considered damaged property by God, but by the society at the time. Marriage was the one way of giving her at least a little hope she wouldn't be at the absolute bottom of society and a way to try and salvage a bad situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 8:15:55 PM #49:	Bandit_Keith posted... Even still, what does old law from millennia ago have to do with the law of today? Christians read the old testament, but follow the religion of the new testament as best as it fits in the world today. But even that does not define the laws we live by today as a nation. Yet a bunch of them insist that the Ten Commandments be the law of the land. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891852123] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bandit_Keith posted...</cite> <quote>Even still, what does old law from millennia ago have to do with the law of today? Christians read the old testament, but follow the religion of the new testament as best as it fits in the world today. But even that does not define the laws we live by today as a nation.</quote> Yet a bunch of them insist that the Ten Commandments be the law of the land.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 12/08/17 8:16:52 PM #50:	ToonLinkWithGun posted... We Christians are under the New Covenant. Not the old. So the Ten Commandments are invalid? Along with Noah's Ark, and Adam and Eve? --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:891852172] in Reminder: ... [t:76077264]...</cite> <quote><cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted...</cite> <quote>We Christians are under the New Covenant. Not the old.</quote> So the Ten Commandments are invalid? Along with Noah's Ark, and Adam and Eve?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1, 2, 3

Current Events > Reminder: The Bible specifically condones Rape as long as you give Compensation (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > Reminder: The Bible specifically condones Rape as long as you give Compensation