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coolcono 12/09/17 9:30:23 PM #1:	We say that Jesus was God, but all the quotes of him saying he was God were from John. John is the odd ball of the Gospel. He does say that he was son of God in other books of the gospel. --- psn- trucano <cite>coolcono posted [p:891914508] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>We say that Jesus was God, but all the quotes of him saying he was God were from John. John is the odd ball of the Gospel. He does say that he was son of God in other books of the gospel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 12/09/17 9:31:47 PM #2:	I mean that used to be a huge debate. --- I am I - you are you. These are irrefutable truths. Possibly. <cite>masticatingman posted [p:891914577] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>I mean that used to be a huge debate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToonLinkWithGun 12/09/17 9:35:09 PM #3:	Jesus is the Son of God. <cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted [p:891914756] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>Jesus is the Son of God.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 12/09/17 9:36:31 PM #4:	ToonLinkWithGun posted... Jesus is the Son of God. aren't they the same person how can he be his own son --- http://i.imgur.com/FS3aeNW.png http://i.imgur.com/Hy9IDHK.gif <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:891914837] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus is the Son of God.</quote> aren't they the same person how can he be his own son</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToonLinkWithGun 12/09/17 9:39:53 PM #5:	WizardPowers posted... ToonLinkWithGun posted... Jesus is the Son of God. aren't they the same person how can he be his own son They are three separate entities who've always been. No one really knows why and I don't think we are supposed to understand it. Adam and Eve were probably the only human beings who ever knew that stuff. <cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted [p:891915001] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>WizardPowers posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus is the Son of God.</quote> aren't they the same person how can he be his own son</quote> They are three separate entities who've always been. No one really knows why and I don't think we are supposed to understand it. Adam and Eve were probably the only human beings who ever knew that stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/09/17 9:55:56 PM #6:	I mean that's where the idea of the Holy Trinity comes from That they are all different but also the same The Gospels are all important. Otherwise why would there be 4 Gospels when they all basically the same story? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:891915748] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>I mean that's where the idea of the Holy Trinity comes from That they are all different but also the same The Gospels are all important. Otherwise why would there be 4 Gospels when they all basically the same story?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToonLinkWithGun 12/09/17 10:01:17 PM #7:	Some Christians tend to treat the Holy Spirit as a thing though and not a being who is here to help us. <cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted [p:891916034] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>Some Christians tend to treat the Holy Spirit as a thing though and not a being who is here to help us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 12/09/17 10:10:43 PM #8:	A lot of Christians also listened to Saul/Paul for some reason. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:891916470] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>A lot of Christians also listened to Saul/Paul for some reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 12/09/17 10:25:22 PM #9:	The Trinity isn't even accepted by every branch of Christianity. Many of the Baptist offshoots (such as Jehovah's Witnesses) view Jesus as God's 'firstborn', 'first creation', or 'head angel'. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:891917201] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>The Trinity isn't even accepted by every branch of Christianity. Many of the Baptist offshoots (such as Jehovah's Witnesses) view Jesus as God's 'firstborn', 'first creation', or 'head angel'.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 12/09/17 10:25:54 PM #10:	St0rmFury posted... A lot of Christians also listened to Saul/Paul for some reason. I mean the Bible includes explicit reasons for why. --- but Marxist theory is extremely consistent, both internally and with reality. -averagejeol <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:891917227] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of Christians also listened to Saul/Paul for some reason.</quote> I mean the Bible includes explicit reasons for why.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 12/09/17 10:26:19 PM #11:	it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:891917242] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/09/17 10:28:22 PM #12:	SuperGamer5 posted... it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction tips fedora --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:891917337] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction</quote> tips fedora</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thelema 12/09/17 10:29:40 PM #13:	If you are really a Christian, this should be the least of your worries. There are plenty of worse inconsistencies on the Bible/in Christianity. --- Look into my eyes, you will see who I am. My name is Lucifer, please take my hand ~ <cite>Thelema posted [p:891917394] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>If you are really a Christian, this should be the least of your worries. There are plenty of worse inconsistencies on the Bible/in Christianity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 12/09/17 10:29:53 PM #14:	Damn_Underscore posted... SuperGamer5 posted... it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction tips fedora good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:891917412] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction</quote> tips fedora</quote> good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 12/09/17 10:37:30 PM #15:	SuperGamer5 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... SuperGamer5 posted... it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction tips fedora good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break It doesn't matter if it's true or not. If enough people believe it, it becomes a part of sociology. That means that it's good to talk about it a constructive and open way. The power of belief is not some inherent supernatural power, but the power that people give it, and if enough people are giving it power, then it's quiet the force indeed. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:891917820] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction</quote> tips fedora</quote> good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break</quote> It doesn't matter if it's true or not. If enough people believe it, it becomes a part of sociology. That means that it's good to talk about it a constructive and open way. The power of belief is not some inherent supernatural power, but the power that people give it, and if enough people are giving it power, then it's quiet the force indeed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 12/09/17 10:43:57 PM #16:	Dash_Harber posted... It doesn't matter if it's true or not. If enough people believe it, it becomes a part of sociology. That means that it's good to talk about it a constructive and open way. The power of belief is not some inherent supernatural power, but the power that people give it, and if enough people are giving it power, then it's quiet the force indeed. doesn't mean it's not fucking stupid <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:891918166] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>It doesn't matter if it's true or not. If enough people believe it, it becomes a part of sociology. That means that it's good to talk about it a constructive and open way. The power of belief is not some inherent supernatural power, but the power that people give it, and if enough people are giving it power, then it's quiet the force indeed. </quote> doesn't mean it's not fucking stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/09/17 10:45:52 PM #17:	You seem to be very enlightened indeed. Why is it stupid? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:891918271] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>You seem to be very enlightened indeed. Why is it stupid?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thelema 12/09/17 10:45:55 PM #18:	Dash_Harber posted... SuperGamer5 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... SuperGamer5 posted... it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction tips fedora good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break It doesn't matter if it's true or not. If enough people believe it, it becomes a part of sociology. That means that it's good to talk about it a constructive and open way. The power of belief is not some inherent supernatural power, but the power that people give it, and if enough people are giving it power, then it's quiet the force indeed. Yeah, but unfortunately Im afraid most internet atheists cant understand this kind of nuanced thinking --- Look into my eyes, you will see who I am. My name is Lucifer, please take my hand ~ <cite>Thelema posted [p:891918274] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction</quote> tips fedora</quote> good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break</quote> It doesn't matter if it's true or not. If enough people believe it, it becomes a part of sociology. That means that it's good to talk about it a constructive and open way. The power of belief is not some inherent supernatural power, but the power that people give it, and if enough people are giving it power, then it's quiet the force indeed.</quote> Yeah, but unfortunately Im afraid most internet atheists cant understand this kind of nuanced thinking</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 12/09/17 10:47:43 PM #19:	St0rmFury posted... A lot of Christians also listened to Saul/Paul for some reason. All Christians by definition do. Paul made the idea of Christ. That was never a doctrine that Jesus himself espoused. Without Paul there really isnt Christianity, just some extended version of Judaism that has the messiah having already been here. --- I am I - you are you. These are irrefutable truths. Possibly. <cite>masticatingman posted [p:891918350] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of Christians also listened to Saul/Paul for some reason.</quote> All Christians by definition do. Paul made the idea of Christ. That was never a doctrine that Jesus himself espoused. Without Paul there really isnt Christianity, just some extended version of Judaism that has the messiah having already been here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 12/09/17 10:49:10 PM #20:	Damn_Underscore posted... You seem to be very enlightened indeed. Why is it stupid? SuperGamer5 posted... we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:891918436] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>You seem to be very enlightened indeed. Why is it stupid?</quote> <cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSMajinVegeta2 12/09/17 10:49:37 PM #21:	SuperGamer5 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... SuperGamer5 posted... it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction tips fedora good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break At least religion is more consistent than science. In 50 years we could find out were wrong about everything in regards to science and religion will still be the same. --- On my business card, I am a corporate president. In my mind, I am a game developer. But in my heart, I am a gamer. Satoru Iwata, 1959 - 2015 RIP GP God bless <cite>SSMajinVegeta2 posted [p:891918460] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction</quote> tips fedora</quote> good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break</quote> At least religion is more consistent than science. In 50 years we could find out were wrong about everything in regards to science and religion will still be the same.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Life Sympathy 12/09/17 10:49:55 PM #22:	SuperGamer5 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... SuperGamer5 posted... it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction tips fedora good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break --- We're surrounding you. We see you, but you probably don't see us. And if you see us, we're not letting on that we see you. <cite>Life Sympathy posted [p:891918471] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction</quote> tips fedora</quote> good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 12/09/17 10:50:45 PM #23:	Life Sympathy posted... SuperGamer5 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... SuperGamer5 posted... it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction tips fedora good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break if that's all you've got in place of an actual rebuttle, that about sums it up, doesn't it? <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:891918515] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>Life Sympathy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction</quote> tips fedora</quote> good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break</quote> </quote> if that's all you've got in place of an actual rebuttle, that about sums it up, doesn't it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 12/09/17 10:51:28 PM #24:	SuperGamer5 posted... we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" Physics continues to back up the finer points of Buddhism if you count that as a religion. Im talking on an infinitesimal atomic level. Actually, so far, Buddhism is beyond where physics has gone. So calm down with thinking 21st century science has the leg up. --- I am I - you are you. These are irrefutable truths. Possibly. <cite>masticatingman posted [p:891918554] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/"</quote> Physics continues to back up the finer points of Buddhism if you count that as a religion. Im talking on an infinitesimal atomic level. Actually, so far, Buddhism is beyond where physics has gone. So calm down with thinking 21st century science has the leg up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/09/17 10:51:46 PM #25:	No you don't have proof in science, you have evidence. If something happens the same way 1 billion times, you might assume it will always happen that way. But further evidence could show you are wrong. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:891918569] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>No you don't have proof in science, you have evidence. If something happens the same way 1 billion times, you might assume it will always happen that way. But further evidence could show you are wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 12/09/17 10:52:57 PM #26:	Damn_Underscore posted... No you don't have proof in science, you have evidence. If something happens the same way 1 billion times, you might assume it will always happen that way. But further evidence could show you are wrong. still more than anything any religion has let's not forget the fact that the entire reason this topic exists is because the bible contradicts itself. hell there are two different accounts of creation. what kinda bullshit is that? <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:891918617] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>No you don't have proof in science, you have evidence. If something happens the same way 1 billion times, you might assume it will always happen that way. But further evidence could show you are wrong.</quote> still more than anything any religion has let's not forget the fact that the entire reason this topic exists is because the bible contradicts itself. hell there are two different accounts of creation. what kinda bullshit is that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Life Sympathy 12/09/17 10:53:14 PM #27:	SuperGamer5 posted... Life Sympathy posted... SuperGamer5 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... SuperGamer5 posted... it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction tips fedora good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break if that's all you've got in place of an actual rebuttle, that about sums it up, doesn't it? --- We're surrounding you. We see you, but you probably don't see us. And if you see us, we're not letting on that we see you. <cite>Life Sympathy posted [p:891918628] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Life Sympathy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction</quote> tips fedora</quote> good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break</quote> </quote> if that's all you've got in place of an actual rebuttle, that about sums it up, doesn't it?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 12/09/17 10:55:19 PM #28:	Life Sympathy posted... SuperGamer5 posted... Life Sympathy posted... SuperGamer5 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... SuperGamer5 posted... it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction tips fedora good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break if that's all you've got in place of an actual rebuttle, that about sums it up, doesn't it? and to think i used your four swords guide <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:891918736] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>Life Sympathy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Life Sympathy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction</quote> tips fedora</quote> good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break</quote> </quote> if that's all you've got in place of an actual rebuttle, that about sums it up, doesn't it?</quote> </quote> and to think i used your four swords guide</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KogaSteelfang 12/09/17 10:56:05 PM #29:	Man is made of 3 parts, the Spirit, the soul(mind), and the body. Man was made in the likeness of God, who is also represented by 3 similar versions of himself. God as a whole is all 3 parts in unison, but the Holy Spirit is one part, Jesus as the body is another(God made flesh), with his mind and powers remaining to govern the rest of the universe. At least, that's how I look at it. God simply enabled each part of himself to function on its own, the only problem would be how Jesus functioned as the body before he was physically born on Earth, but iirc the bible mentions our perfect bodies existing to match our spirits, so I guess he was some kind of spirit body before then. --- What did the pirate say on his 80th birthday? Aye Matey! <cite>KogaSteelfang posted [p:891918769] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>Man is made of 3 parts, the Spirit, the soul(mind), and the body. Man was made in the likeness of God, who is also represented by 3 similar versions of himself. God as a whole is all 3 parts in unison, but the Holy Spirit is one part, Jesus as the body is another(God made flesh), with his mind and powers remaining to govern the rest of the universe. At least, that's how I look at it. God simply enabled each part of himself to function on its own, the only problem would be how Jesus functioned as the body before he was physically born on Earth, but iirc the bible mentions our perfect bodies existing to match our spirits, so I guess he was some kind of spirit body before then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Life Sympathy 12/09/17 10:57:40 PM #30:	If you're that petty then by all means go ahead. --- We're surrounding you. We see you, but you probably don't see us. And if you see us, we're not letting on that we see you. <cite>Life Sympathy posted [p:891918842] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>If you're that petty then by all means go ahead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 12/09/17 10:58:28 PM #31:	SSMajinVegeta2 posted... SuperGamer5 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... SuperGamer5 posted... it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction tips fedora good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break At least religion is more consistent than science. In 50 years we could find out were wrong about everything in regards to science and religion will still be the same. Religion is not more consistent lmao if you burned every bible ever and erased people's memories of it, it would never be remade. if you burned every science textbook, the concepts would all come back because they would all be retested and verified. --- http://i.imgur.com/FS3aeNW.png http://i.imgur.com/Hy9IDHK.gif <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:891918873] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSMajinVegeta2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction</quote> tips fedora</quote> good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break</quote> At least religion is more consistent than science. In 50 years we could find out were wrong about everything in regards to science and religion will still be the same.</quote> Religion is not more consistent lmao if you burned every bible ever and erased people's memories of it, it would never be remade. if you burned every science textbook, the concepts would all come back because they would all be retested and verified.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 12/09/17 10:58:50 PM #32:	Life Sympathy posted... If you're that petty then by all means go ahead. i thought it was pretty obvious that one was a joke. guess not \_()_/ <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:891918888] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>Life Sympathy posted...</cite> <quote>If you're that petty then by all means go ahead. </quote> i thought it was pretty obvious that one was a joke. guess not \_()_/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/09/17 11:01:23 PM #33:	So by that logic does history not exist? Or languages? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:891919008] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>So by that logic does history not exist? Or languages?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 12/09/17 11:02:36 PM #34:	the argument was about consistency, not whether they existed --- http://i.imgur.com/FS3aeNW.png http://i.imgur.com/Hy9IDHK.gif <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:891919078] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>the argument was about consistency, not whether they existed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 12/09/17 11:04:44 PM #35:	SuperGamer5 posted... Dash_Harber posted... It doesn't matter if it's true or not. If enough people believe it, it becomes a part of sociology. That means that it's good to talk about it a constructive and open way. The power of belief is not some inherent supernatural power, but the power that people give it, and if enough people are giving it power, then it's quiet the force indeed. doesn't mean it's not fucking stupid You've accomplished nothing but your own catharsis, at the expense of your own cause. Congrats. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:891919202] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>It doesn't matter if it's true or not. If enough people believe it, it becomes a part of sociology. That means that it's good to talk about it a constructive and open way. The power of belief is not some inherent supernatural power, but the power that people give it, and if enough people are giving it power, then it's quiet the force indeed. </quote> doesn't mean it's not fucking stupid</quote> You've accomplished nothing but your own catharsis, at the expense of your own cause. Congrats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thelema 12/09/17 11:05:26 PM #36:	WizardPowers posted... SSMajinVegeta2 posted... SuperGamer5 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... SuperGamer5 posted... it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction tips fedora good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break At least religion is more consistent than science. In 50 years we could find out were wrong about everything in regards to science and religion will still be the same. Religion is not more consistent lmao if you burned every bible ever and erased people's memories of it, it would never be remade. if you burned every science textbook, the concepts would all come back because they would all be retested and verified. Im not religious myself, but it is true that tomorrow a scientist might discover something that will change everything science has previously said about X subject. Tomorrow I might die believing in everything science currently explains, and two weeks after I die, a new scientific theory might pop up, disproving the current relativity theory. Religion, however, will always be the same. --- Look into my eyes, you will see who I am. My name is Lucifer, please take my hand ~ <cite>Thelema posted [p:891919256] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>WizardPowers posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSMajinVegeta2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction</quote> tips fedora</quote> good one. i have no idea how this is even a debate in 2017, considering we have proof to back up every scientific claim that contradicts religion, and all religion has got is "faith \_()_/" give me a break</quote> At least religion is more consistent than science. In 50 years we could find out were wrong about everything in regards to science and religion will still be the same.</quote> Religion is not more consistent lmao if you burned every bible ever and erased people's memories of it, it would never be remade. if you burned every science textbook, the concepts would all come back because they would all be retested and verified.</quote> Im not religious myself, but it is true that tomorrow a scientist might discover something that will change everything science has previously said about X subject. Tomorrow I might die believing in everything science currently explains, and two weeks after I die, a new scientific theory might pop up, disproving the current relativity theory. Religion, however, will always be the same.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 12/09/17 11:06:47 PM #37:	SuperGamer5 posted... it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction I haven't seen an edgy teenager forever >_> Nice --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:891919330] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's fucking fiction</quote> I haven't seen an edgy teenager forever >_> Nice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Comfy_Pillow 12/09/17 11:07:38 PM #38:	"but every scientific fact could be proven false tomorrow!" yeah and Jesus could come back down to Earth tomorrow with a new bible and change everything <cite>Comfy_Pillow posted [p:891919388] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote>"but every scientific fact could be proven false tomorrow!" yeah and Jesus could come back down to Earth tomorrow with a new bible and change everything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 12/09/17 11:08:57 PM #39:	Dash_Harber posted... You've accomplished nothing but your own catharsis, at the expense of your own cause. Congrats. huh? catharsis was the only thing to be gained here. my cause was just how dumb the concept of religion is. and it is. not sure what your point is <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:891919461] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>You've accomplished nothing but your own catharsis, at the expense of your own cause. Congrats. </quote> huh? catharsis was the only thing to be gained here. my cause was just how dumb the concept of religion is. and it is. not sure what your point is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 12/09/17 11:16:50 PM #40:	SuperGamer5 posted... Dash_Harber posted... You've accomplished nothing but your own catharsis, at the expense of your own cause. Congrats. huh? catharsis was the only thing to be gained here. my cause was just how dumb the concept of religion is. and it is. not sure what your point is I'm really not sure how I could make my point any clearer. It doesn't matter if it's 'dumb' or not. If people believe it, it has power and therefore we should be able to talk about it. However, if you don't think talking can accomplish anything, you probably don't have anything valuable to contribute, anyway. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:891919916] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>You've accomplished nothing but your own catharsis, at the expense of your own cause. Congrats. </quote> huh? catharsis was the only thing to be gained here. my cause was just how dumb the concept of religion is. and it is. not sure what your point is</quote> I'm really not sure how I could make my point any clearer. It doesn't matter if it's 'dumb' or not. If people believe it, it has power and therefore we should be able to talk about it. However, if you don't think talking can accomplish anything, you probably don't have anything valuable to contribute, anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 12/09/17 11:19:44 PM #41:	Dash_Harber posted... I'm really not sure how I could make my point any clearer. It doesn't matter if it's 'dumb' or not. If people believe it, it has power and therefore we should be able to talk about it. However, if you don't think talking can accomplish anything, you probably don't have anything valuable to contribute, anyway. sure it has power, but that's not a good thing. i mean, i'm all for showing people the hard evidence that contradicts their religion, but if they don't want to accept any of it (and many don't), then there's really no point in talking. <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:891920067] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>I'm really not sure how I could make my point any clearer. It doesn't matter if it's 'dumb' or not. If people believe it, it has power and therefore we should be able to talk about it. However, if you don't think talking can accomplish anything, you probably don't have anything valuable to contribute, anyway. </quote> sure it has power, but that's not a good thing. i mean, i'm all for showing people the hard evidence that contradicts their religion, but if they don't want to accept any of it (and many don't), then there's really no point in talking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 12/09/17 11:22:52 PM #42:	SuperGamer5 posted... sure it has power, but that's not a good thing. So instead of talking about it, you think insulting it is going to change anything? SuperGamer5 posted... i mean, i'm all for showing people the hard evidence that contradicts their religion, but if they don't want to accept any of it (and many don't), then there's really no point in talking. No one is asking you to. We can still talk about the doctrine without believing it. For example, Lost was completely fictional. That didn't stop people from talking about what they thought it meant for like nine years. There is literally nothing to lose by understanding the internal logic of a belief that isn't your own. There is, however, everything to gain. Of course, being obnoxious in any situation is probably not going to win you much, anyway. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:891920237] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>sure it has power, but that's not a good thing.</quote> So instead of talking about it, you think insulting it is going to change anything? <cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>i mean, i'm all for showing people the hard evidence that contradicts their religion, but if they don't want to accept any of it (and many don't), then there's really no point in talking.</quote> No one is asking you to. We can still talk about the doctrine without believing it. For example, Lost was completely fictional. That didn't stop people from talking about what they thought it meant for like nine years. There is literally nothing to lose by understanding the internal logic of a belief that isn't your own. There is, however, everything to gain. Of course, being obnoxious in any situation is probably not going to win you much, anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 12/09/17 11:27:11 PM #43:	Dash_Harber posted... So instead of talking about it, you think insulting it is going to change anything? no, but to be fair, i'm on ce, i wasn't attempting to change anything. Dash_Harber posted... No one is asking you to. We can still talk about the doctrine without believing it. For example, Lost was completely fictional. That didn't stop people from talking about what they thought it meant for like nine years. There is literally nothing to lose by understanding the internal logic of a belief that isn't your own. There is, however, everything to gain. Of course, being obnoxious in any situation is probably not going to win you much, anyway. fair enough. i will say though that my intent was never to say the discussion was stupid, rather the idea of believing in these religions. obnoxious? yes, but i wasn't meaning to tell folks what to and not to discuss <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:891920485] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>So instead of talking about it, you think insulting it is going to change anything? </quote> no, but to be fair, i'm on ce, i wasn't attempting to change anything. <cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>No one is asking you to. We can still talk about the doctrine without believing it. For example, Lost was completely fictional. That didn't stop people from talking about what they thought it meant for like nine years. There is literally nothing to lose by understanding the internal logic of a belief that isn't your own. There is, however, everything to gain. Of course, being obnoxious in any situation is probably not going to win you much, anyway. </quote> fair enough. i will say though that my intent was never to say the discussion was stupid, rather the idea of believing in these religions. obnoxious? yes, but i wasn't meaning to tell folks what to and not to discuss</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 12/09/17 11:27:50 PM #44:	SuperGamer5 posted... but i wasn't meaning to tell folks what to and not to discuss Then the point is ... ? <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:891920512] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote>but i wasn't meaning to tell folks what to and not to discuss</quote> Then the point is ... ?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 12/09/17 11:29:19 PM #45:	Dash_Harber posted... Then the point is ... ? to obnoxiously interject with my disdain for religion in 2017. <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:891920586] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Then the point is ... ?</quote> to obnoxiously interject with my disdain for religion in 2017.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 12/09/17 11:30:29 PM #46:	SuperGamer5 posted... Dash_Harber posted... Then the point is ... ? to obnoxiously interject with my disdain for religion in 2017. Well, at least you admit it. Doesn't seem to be much of a reason for you to be surprised when guys like me call you out on it, though. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:891920641] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Then the point is ... ?</quote> to obnoxiously interject with my disdain for religion in 2017.</quote> Well, at least you admit it. Doesn't seem to be much of a reason for you to be surprised when guys like me call you out on it, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperGamer5 12/09/17 11:32:11 PM #47:	Dash_Harber posted... Well, at least you admit it. Doesn't seem to be much of a reason for you to be surprised when guys like me call you out on it, though. well to be honest i initially took this topic as a discussion of religion by those who subscribed to it. it wasn't until post 42 when i realized i may have jumped the gun a bit <cite>SuperGamer5 posted [p:891920735] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Well, at least you admit it. Doesn't seem to be much of a reason for you to be surprised when guys like me call you out on it, though. </quote> well to be honest i initially took this topic as a discussion of religion by those who subscribed to it. it wasn't until post 42 when i realized i may have jumped the gun a bit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 12/09/17 11:33:12 PM #48:	SuperGamer5 posted... Dash_Harber posted... Well, at least you admit it. Doesn't seem to be much of a reason for you to be surprised when guys like me call you out on it, though. well to be honest i initially took this topic as a discussion of religion by those who subscribed to it. it wasn't until post 42 when i realized i may have jumped the gun a bit Fair enough. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:891920788] in As a Chris... [t:76081445]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperGamer5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Well, at least you admit it. Doesn't seem to be much of a reason for you to be surprised when guys like me call you out on it, though. </quote> well to be honest i initially took this topic as a discussion of religion by those who subscribed to it. it wasn't until post 42 when i realized i may have jumped the gun a bit</quote> Fair enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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