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Corrik
12/13/17 8:11:02 AM
#101:


I wonder if those allegations are even true. The 14 year old seems a bit credible, but I am not too sure about the 16 year old assault one at all.

We will never know though I guess.
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Nelson_Mandela
12/13/17 8:15:19 AM
#102:


FFDragon posted...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/940904649728708609

lol stacked against him

Moore was the one who did all the stacking!

I completely called this reaction months ago btw
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Nelson_Mandela
12/13/17 8:15:59 AM
#103:


Corrik posted...
I wonder if those allegations are even true. The 14 year old seems a bit credible, but I am not too sure about the 16 year old assault one at all.

We will never know though I guess.

Would be great if Moore gets prosecuted and then blows his brains out in disgrace
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Mr Lasastryke
12/13/17 8:34:54 AM
#104:


FFDragon posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFYRkzznsc0


Also holy shit the more I see out of the Moore campaign, the more I'm glad he was an unelectable dumpster fire. You can actually see the the moment his brain blue screens.


lol this is the funniest thing i've seen in awhile. that blank stare.
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HaRRicH
12/13/17 8:38:04 AM
#105:


That's been posted at least three times and it is so worth it each time.
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Corrik
12/13/17 8:52:32 AM
#106:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Corrik posted...
I wonder if those allegations are even true. The 14 year old seems a bit credible, but I am not too sure about the 16 year old assault one at all.

We will never know though I guess.

Would be great if Moore gets prosecuted and then blows his brains out in disgrace

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FFDragon
12/13/17 9:39:39 AM
#107:


I see Roy Moore refuses to concede. Of course he wouldn't take no for an answer.

Though it's strange that he seems so upset about the election loss. You would have thought he wouldn't mind coming in a little behind.

(alright I'm done)
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FFDragon
12/13/17 9:42:05 AM
#108:


Though, this is a yikes:

Alabama is so gerrymandered that Roy Moore won 6 of its 7 congressional districts and lost


https://twitter.com/BobbyBigWheel/status/940950124066418690
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Peace___Frog
12/13/17 9:43:44 AM
#109:


Geez
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Corrik
12/13/17 10:10:15 AM
#110:


FFDragon posted...
Though, this is a yikes:

Alabama is so gerrymandered that Roy Moore won 6 of its 7 congressional districts and lost


https://twitter.com/BobbyBigWheel/status/940950124066418690

That doesn't exactly mean much. With so much of the Democratic vote settled around singular cities, this is bound to happen. Jefferson county itself probably had as many voters as the bottom 30 counties combined. (Just an eyeball guesstimate).

For example in PA, a large number of the Democratic vote is centered around Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, and somewhat Erie/Penn States area.

The rest is generally Republican areas that have to through their combined results somehow turn the vote discrepancies from those areas which generally can be upwards of 500-800k+ alone in just Democratic leads.

As long as the Democratic vote is majorly centered in major cities (especially in Red States), it is going to create those results.
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My Immortal
12/13/17 10:11:58 AM
#111:


Gerrymandering... isn't a thing in state elections, right? I'm not being dumb, am I?
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SupremeZero
12/13/17 10:12:38 AM
#112:


My Immortal posted...
Gerrymandering... isn't a thing in state elections, right? I'm not being dumb, am I?

That's the point. It's gerrymandered so hard that he would win that many of them and still lost.
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Jakyl25
12/13/17 10:19:04 AM
#113:


My Immortal posted...
Gerrymandering... isn't a thing in state elections, right? I'm not being dumb, am I?


Right, it means nothing here, but its an illustration of how disproportionately the districts are drawn for representation in other areas.

And its awful when Democrats do it too. This shouldnt be a partisan issue.
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HaRRicH
12/13/17 10:42:43 AM
#114:


That tweet's saying if this same statewide vote was for Representatives instead of the Senate, Alabama would have six Roy Moores and one Doug Jones now in the House of Representatives.

Assuming there were seven Roys and seven Dougs running, but you get the point.
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My Immortal
12/13/17 10:56:57 AM
#115:


Got it. I thought it was someone claiming that Moore lost because of Gerrymandering, somehow. Makes more sense now.
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Dancedreamer
12/13/17 11:05:11 AM
#116:


I still think assigning seats geographically is a stupid idea.
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scarletspeed7
12/13/17 11:05:13 AM
#117:


FFDragon posted...
Though, this is a yikes:

Alabama is so gerrymandered that Roy Moore won 6 of its 7 congressional districts and lost


https://twitter.com/BobbyBigWheel/status/940950124066418690

Bobby Big Wheel
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charmander6000
12/13/17 11:12:53 AM
#118:


Dancedreamer posted...
I still think assigning seats geographically is a stupid idea.


In a FPTP system it's the best way. A type of proportional representation would be nice though.
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Suprak the Stud
12/13/17 11:13:23 AM
#119:


https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/940972142971191302
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My Immortal
12/13/17 11:18:02 AM
#120:


Suprak the Stud posted...
https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/940972142971191302

He's one of my senators and I dislike him, but everyone so often he does things that I approve of!

Of course, for both healthcare and tax reform he's one of the people who talks a big game about voting no and then votes yes. Not much of a fan of that.
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Jakyl25
12/13/17 11:18:04 AM
#121:


Omarosa has been fired
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The Mana Sword
12/13/17 11:18:33 AM
#122:


fired by trump for the third time
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Jakyl25
12/13/17 11:20:09 AM
#123:


Take that black voters
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FFDragon
12/13/17 11:21:12 AM
#124:


Jakyl25 posted...
Omarosa has been fired


https://twitter.com/Pappiness/status/940973368454582272
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Espeon
12/13/17 11:32:54 AM
#125:


The Mana Sword posted...
fired by trump for the third time


Fourth.

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Celebrity Apprentice 6
Now
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The Mana Sword
12/13/17 11:34:26 AM
#126:


oh, I didn't realize she was CA twice
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Espeon
12/13/17 11:35:57 AM
#127:


The Mana Sword posted...
oh, I didn't realize she was CA twice


Yeah, they had an All-Stars season and she finally won a task as project manager, giving a stellar 1/5 record.
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pxlated
12/13/17 11:41:19 AM
#128:


My Immortal posted...
Suprak the Stud posted...
https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/940972142971191302

He's one of my senators and I dislike him, but everyone so often he does things that I approve of!

Of course, for both healthcare and tax reform he's one of the people who talks a big game about voting no and then votes yes. Not much of a fan of that.


You're from hell, too? I apologize.

At least Rodgers is cleared to return
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Jakyl25
12/13/17 11:45:20 AM
#129:


Espeon posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
fired by trump for the third time


Fourth.

Apprentice 1
Celebrity Apprentice 1
Celebrity Apprentice 6
Now


Wasnt she originally from Apprentice 2?

I only watched the first two seasons
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Dancedreamer
12/13/17 12:08:35 PM
#130:


Jakyl25 posted...
Omarosa has been fired


Am I the only one who thought "I bet it's because Trump's mad at black women for voting Doug Jones."
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THEDavyJones
12/13/17 12:14:11 PM
#131:


Dancedreamer posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Omarosa has been fired


Am I the only one who thought "I bet it's because Trump's mad at black women for voting Doug Jones."

FFDragon posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Omarosa has been fired


https://twitter.com/Pappiness/status/940973368454582272

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HaRRicH
12/13/17 12:28:16 PM
#132:


12/12/2017
VOX - Doug Jones?s win just vastly improved Democrats? chances of retaking the Senate in 2018

Once Jones is sworn in, the 52-48 Republican majority will shrink to just 51-49. This means that Democrats will have to gain, on net, just two seats, rather than three, to retake control of the chamber.

It might not seem like this makes much of a difference, but it?s an enormous help for Democrats ? because they face such a horrifically bad Senate map in 2018.

Democrats have to defend a massive 26 Senate seats next year, while a mere eight Republican seats are up. And in addition to having fewer targets to aim at, Democrats are on defense in difficult territory ? they?re defending 10 seats in states Trump won. (Five of those are in states Trump won overwhelmingly.)

Furthermore, of those eight Republican-held seats on the ballot, just one is in a state Hillary Clinton won (Dean Heller in Nevada). There?s also an open seat in Arizona, a state where Clinton came relatively close to winning. But the other six GOP-held seats are in deep-red territory.

With both of those points in mind, it?s been very difficult to plot a plausible path to a three-seat Democratic gain. The party would have had to pull off the very challenging task of holding on to all of their own seats, and they?d probably have to win the GOP-held seats in Nevada and Arizona, and then ... they?d need one more. (Beating Ted Cruz in Texas or winning an open Tennessee seat are two possibilities, but both are long shots.)

Jones?s win changes this math. Now, defending all their incumbents plus winning just Nevada and Arizona would give Democrats a 51-49 majority in the Senate. That?s still a very heavy lift ? but it?s the most plausible the party?s chances have looked all year.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/12/16766892/alabama-senate-election-2017-doug-jones-wins
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psaltery
12/13/17 12:32:42 PM
#133:


I think Donald made a big mistake in firing Omarosa. She just might turn her bitch switch on him if he doesn't rehire her again.
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Nelson_Mandela
12/13/17 12:40:00 PM
#134:


I still think the odds of a Dem senate majority are very low. 2018 should have been a watershed year for the GOP but now they are probably thanking God for the buffer.
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transcience
12/13/17 12:42:53 PM
#135:


I agree. they need to hope for more Bannon types to outprimary their opponents. Kelli Ward in AZ would probably help their cause if she can win the primary.
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DeathChicken
12/13/17 12:47:45 PM
#136:


I'm thinking "Trump won this state" is going to start meaning less and less the more people get disillusioned with Trump. From people I've talked to, even guys who voted for him are realizing he's a clown and just want him to shut the fuck up
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Suprak the Stud
12/13/17 12:51:26 PM
#137:


transcience posted...
I agree. they need to hope for more Bannon types to outprimary their opponents. Kelli Ward in AZ would probably help their cause if she can win the primary.


Yep. Right now dems basically have to hope Bannon has learned nothing and continues to run awful candidates to sabotage what should be easy GOP seats.

Which, uh, I guess isnt totally out of the question based on what we know of Bannon.
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Nelson_Mandela
12/13/17 12:57:17 PM
#138:


Remember when Christine O'Donnell tanked an easy Senate race in Delaware by primarying the guy who was even more popular than Biden? Or that weirdo who lost in Missouri because he decided to talk about rape?

Less apparently not learned.
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Reg
12/13/17 12:58:28 PM
#139:


I have wishful thinking'd myself into thinking Ted Cruz is vulnerable (though still the favorite) after last night

Fuck Ted Cruz
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Nelson_Mandela
12/13/17 1:02:03 PM
#140:


Reg posted...
I have wishful thinking'd myself into thinking Ted Cruz is vulnerable (though still the favorite) after last night

Fuck Ted Cruz

Ted Cruz is definitely evolving now that his role in the Senate is a bit different (ie not a mere stepping stone for the presidency). I actually like this new Ted a lot.

Same goes for Rubio. He's developing into a true legislator.
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CelesMyUserName
12/13/17 1:02:17 PM
#141:


FFDragon posted...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/940904649728708609

lol stacked against him

Moore was the one who did all the stacking!

I love the "(and his numbers went up mightily)" addendum. Trump is such a fucking baby about weakness it's amazing.
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LordoftheMorons
12/13/17 1:14:35 PM
#142:


Reg posted...
I have wishful thinking'd myself into thinking Ted Cruz is vulnerable (though still the favorite) after last night

Fuck Ted Cruz

Yeah I think taking out Cruz is possible, though I'd be surprised if the Dems took it without sweeping everything else.
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Suprak the Stud
12/13/17 1:16:40 PM
#143:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Remember when Christine O'Donnell tanked an easy Senate race in Delaware by primarying the guy who was even more popular than Biden? Or that weirdo who lost in Missouri because he decided to talk about rape?

Less apparently not learned.


CHRISTINE O'DONNELL

How did I forget about her?

It is refreshing to remember that Republicans can be just as dumb as Democrats when it comes to putting up some truly awful candidates for major office.
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Not_an_Owl
12/13/17 1:17:52 PM
#144:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
I still think the odds of a Dem senate majority are very low. 2018 should have been a watershed year for the GOP but now they are probably thanking God for the buffer.

Yeah, it's way more likely Democrats control the House than the Senate come 2019. Dems probably can pick up two Senate seats in the midterms but I just don't believe they can hold everywhere else.
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LordoftheMorons
12/13/17 1:37:10 PM
#145:


Sadly, we will no longer have a former ghostbuster who had never tried a case as a federal judge:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/364707-white-house-pulls-back-nomination-of-trump-judicial-pick-who-has
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THEDavyJones
12/13/17 1:43:48 PM
#146:


How about this:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/364696-joe-biden-consoles-meghan-mccain-over-fathers-cancer-on-the-view
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Espeon
12/13/17 1:44:58 PM
#147:


Have we discussed how someone forged documents to smear Chuck Schumer as a sexual assaulter? I know Roy Moore is the big story, but seriously...what the fuck, alt-right?
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The Mana Sword
12/13/17 1:47:17 PM
#148:


Espeon posted...
Have we discussed how someone forged documents to smear Chuck Schumer as a sexual assaulter? I know Roy Moore is the big story, but seriously...what the fuck, alt-right?


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Not_an_Owl
12/13/17 1:49:17 PM
#149:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Sadly, we will no longer have a former ghostbuster who had never tried a case as a federal judge:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/364707-white-house-pulls-back-nomination-of-trump-judicial-pick-who-has

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, on Tuesday urged Trump to reconsider Talley and another judicial pick.

Grassley's panel advanced Talleys nomination last month on a party-line vote.

"I would advise the White House not to proceed," Grassley said.


Republican hypocrisy in a nutshell. If you don't want the nomination to proceed and want the White House to reconsider, why not just vote down the nominee?
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LordoftheMorons
12/13/17 1:57:08 PM
#150:


In celebration of his (second) big loss in Alabama, Trump is now back down to his all time low approval rating per 538:

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/941017043268235264
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