Board 8 > Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius Topic 42 - Cloud Nine

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RaidenZeroX
01/02/18 8:00:26 PM
#401:


This is FFBE, if everything isn't RNG based there's no point!
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crazygamer999
01/02/18 8:01:17 PM
#402:


...there'a a reason why I'm playing GBF over this right now.
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GANON1025
01/02/18 8:05:09 PM
#403:


Wilhelm reigns supreme
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ChaosTonyV4
01/02/18 8:34:28 PM
#404:


crazygamer999 posted...
...there'a a reason why I'm playing GBF over this right now.


Whats GBF?
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The Mana Sword
01/02/18 8:35:20 PM
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Wanglicious
01/02/18 8:52:14 PM
#406:


granblue's 10-100 free rolls every day is honest to god the most friendly system i've ever seen in a gacha game. yeah it's a new year's promotion but holy shit, they just fucking give you a free 10 roll every day minimum.

and then along the way as that happened they doubled the SSR - 5* - rate from 3% to 6% too.
so a 6% rate, with free pulls, free tickets thrown at you, and free extra in-game currency to allow for 3-4 normal 10-rolls.
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BakusaiTenketsu
01/02/18 9:56:01 PM
#407:


They RNG plenty of awoken abilities, most notorious of which is Ace. Now he has the chance to mitigate just as much physical damage (which he's likely to be taking more of since he is protecting allies from it anyways) as he does magical damage.
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BakusaiTenketsu
01/02/18 9:59:28 PM
#408:


Wanglicious posted...
granblue's 10-100 free rolls every day is honest to god the most friendly system i've ever seen in a gacha game. yeah it's a new year's promotion but holy shit, they just fucking give you a free 10 roll every day minimum.

and then along the way as that happened they doubled the SSR - 5* - rate from 3% to 6% too.
so a 6% rate, with free pulls, free tickets thrown at you, and free extra in-game currency to allow for 3-4 normal 10-rolls.

I don't know if I could get heavily invested into another gacha game after FFBE. I tried FEH and FGO, and though I like their premises, being free to play with gacha was hard enough on FFBE and I realized I couldn't invest myself anymore. I am invested in FFBE, and have lots to work with, I just don't have the time and mental energy to free to play my way through another gacha, and I've never paid to play mobile, and don't have any plans to ever start.
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RaidenZeroX
01/02/18 10:02:40 PM
#409:


Damn, that sounds really good. FFBE has made me swear off all other gachas though.I need another injection wave or something to free myself!
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voltch
01/03/18 2:20:07 AM
#410:


I believe granblue is also much more grind heavy.

It's also the game that used to be the subject for some of the most insane whale tales.
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crazygamer999
01/03/18 3:03:13 AM
#411:


voltch posted...
I believe granblue is also much more grind heavy.

It's also the game that used to be the subject for some of the most insane whale tales.


Correct on both counts.

It is called Grindblue Fantasy for a reason, but I love the characters and story enough to endure.
And yea...some of those friendly things came because they kinda overreached themselves a bit. Still worth it in the end, though.
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Lopen
01/03/18 5:13:13 AM
#412:


Much more grind heavy than Brave Exvius, the most grind heavy gacha I play (well, "play" at this point).
That's pretty incredible. Sounds like a special hell.
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crazygamer999
01/03/18 5:20:11 AM
#413:


Eh, I deal with it by playing casually.
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GANON1025
01/03/18 7:11:22 PM
#414:


Is Wilhelm useful for the Bahamut fight? Or are you just relying on Mystea there?
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The Mana Sword
01/03/18 7:30:01 PM
#415:


you should actually just kill bahamut before he does anything
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BakusaiTenketsu
01/03/18 7:53:58 PM
#416:


How much of a difference is 1116 and 1154 attack? I used my 100% moogle on Sworn Six Pride - Dark and that was the change in attack for my A2 switching out the Brave Suit and Quick Assault for Demon Mail (best attack heavy armor?) and SSP-D.

I'm just worried that my A2 was probably doing just fine with 1116 attack, and that I should have gotten something defense oriented instead for my tank or healer.
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WhiteLens
01/03/18 8:02:42 PM
#417:


Wanglicious posted...
granblue's 10-100 free rolls every day is honest to god the most friendly system i've ever seen in a gacha game. yeah it's a new year's promotion but holy shit, they just fucking give you a free 10 roll every day minimum.

and then along the way as that happened they doubled the SSR - 5* - rate from 3% to 6% too.
so a 6% rate, with free pulls, free tickets thrown at you, and free extra in-game currency to allow for 3-4 normal 10-rolls.

Idolmaster Cinderella Girls: Starlight Stage is doing this as well (though not so much on the free in-game currency), and guess who else developed that game? Cygames.

That said, it still didn't prevent me from going 7 10-pulls and only getting 1 SSR out of them despite the 6% rate.

I could make a case that the mobile rhythm games I play are more grindy than FFBE since those require constant playing if you care about event rankings, and it's like you have to focus on playing if you want to play well. Some of them barely have any breaks in-between events.

But the trade-off is that you don't need to worry about management as much and meta doesn't really matter unless you care about getting high scores.
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GANON1025
01/03/18 8:36:25 PM
#418:


Well my first attempt went decently even though I lost. I had him down to 26%. My big problem was Mystea, even at full health with a revive, would die twice to megaflare. She also kept getting paralyzed, though I think Ayaka dualcasting Esunaga with healing should be able to cover that.
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GANON1025
01/03/18 9:16:11 PM
#419:


The second time, I got Bahamut down to 10%. I think what is stopping me now is my damage output. I have my Veritas of the Dark with the best equipment I have and with Odin, and the best Orlandu friend I can find as my damage dealers. It's just not quite enough, I'm bringing Soleil but only her SPR/DEF dance is enhanced.
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RaidenZeroX
01/03/18 10:14:30 PM
#420:


Didn't you have Fryevia? She's awesome for Bahamut. If you bring Rikku along and fire off her limit, Fry is hard to kill. The first megaflare goes through, I shall not lose activates, she gets revived, and it will activate a second time. Eliminates the need for a one shot Garnet. This is all assuming that he doesn't fall to a pair of Frost Flower Blitzes first turn.
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GANON1025
01/03/18 11:20:00 PM
#421:


Yeah I have her, but my damage dealers dying isn't really the problem. I can't imagine two Fryevias are THAT much stronger than Orlandu/DV here
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Fiyun
01/04/18 1:14:06 AM
#422:


Do you spr/MAG break him? (45+%)

What are the values of Mystea's spr/HP?
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Fiyun
01/04/18 2:04:40 AM
#423:


GL - Maintenance info
**Assets:** http://diffs.exviusdb.com/asset_files/global/diffs/112.html

##King's Knight Units

* https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Ray_Jack
* https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Kaliva
* https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Barusa
* https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Toby

Note: Kaliva's TMR is +50% MAG DH.
Note2: Primal Instincts is 50 MP - AoE 30% Phys Mitigation (3 Turns)

#Raid Boss

######**Tolfidan**

##Skillset

Skill 01: Energy Ball - ST 260% Dark Magic Damage
Skill 02: Balls of Fire - ST 220% Fire Phys Damage
Skill 03: Balls of Darkness - AoE 300% Dark Magic Damage & AoE -50% Dark Resist (3 Turns)
Skill 04: Fire Breath - AoE 300% Fire Phys Damage & AoE -50% Fire Resist (3 Turns)
Skill 05: Dragon Breath - AoE 400% Fire Phys Damage & AoE -20% ATK/MAG (3 Turns)
Skill 06: Soul Fire - AoE 400% Dark Magic Damage & AoE -20% DEF/SPR (3 Turns)
Skill 07: Bellowing Roar Wind Element - Self Dispel & Self -50% Wind Resist (9999 Turns)
Skill 08: Bellowing Roar Earth Element - Self Dispel & Self -50% Earth Resist (9999 Turns)
Skill 09: Bellowing Roar Water Element - Self Dispel & Self -50% Water Resist (9999 Turns)
Skill 10: Bellowing Roar Light Element - Self Dispel & Self -50% Light Resist (9999 Turns)

##AI/Patterns

**"Phases"**
(Each triggers once)

HP <100%, HP >75%: Bellowing Roar Wind Element
HP <75%, HP >50%: Bellowing Roar Earth Element
HP <50%, HP >25%: Bellowing Roar Water Element
HP <25%: Bellowing Roar Light Element

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**Thresholds:** (Once)

HP <75%: Fire Breath
HP <50%: Dragon Breath
HP <25%: Soul Fire

**Conditional:**

Every 6 Turns: Balls of Darkness (Once/Turn)
Every 4 Turns: Fire Breath (Once/Turn)
Every 3 Turns: Dragon Breath (Once/Turn)
Every 2 Turns: Soul Fire (Once/Turn)

**Regular:**

70% Chance: Energy Ball
30% Chance: Balls of Fire
Normal Attack

#Other Info

##Changes

**Kryla's Unnatural Beauty**

>Increase magic damage against humans (50%)
>Increase magic damage against ~~undead~~ fairy (50%)

https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/7o18rr/gl_maintenance_info/
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The Mana Sword
01/04/18 6:53:45 AM
#424:


first extended maintenance of 2018!!
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RaidenZeroX
01/04/18 7:04:59 AM
#425:


GANON1025 posted...
Yeah I have her, but my damage dealers dying isn't really the problem. I can't imagine two Fryevias are THAT much stronger than Orlandu/DV here


They are that much stronger. Orlandeau/DV can't really touch a pair of good Fry's, especially now that everybody can perfect chain. I've tested it with Orlandeau/DV and DV/DV etc with near max values, and it's not even close.

Never underestimate the power of super hybrid chaining, and never overestimate the damage of the DR tree. When you need a very fast kill, Fry is still the way to go. If you have 4 turns to setup, that's when TT takes over.
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The Mana Sword
01/04/18 7:07:50 AM
#426:


Yeah, most enemies have less significantly less SPR than DEF, so Fry is just inherently going to do more damage.

Bahamut is no exception.
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RaidenZeroX
01/04/18 7:08:19 AM
#427:


Kings Knight units/TMRs seem pretty bad. Don't even think I'll be doing dailies here.

Glad the raid boss doesn't seem to be like Shadow Lord (was that the one that we couldn't kill in one turn, or am I mixing them up?) If the raid boss can't be one turned it's such a drain.
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RaidenZeroX
01/04/18 7:09:42 AM
#428:


The Mana Sword posted...
Yeah, most enemies have less significantly less SPR than DEF, so Fry is just inherently going to do more damage.

Bahamut is no exception.


It's not even there. I was running these tests against the training dummy. Granted, I'm just assuming that thing has equal SPR and DEF, I never bothered to actually check it though.
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The Mana Sword
01/04/18 7:10:13 AM
#429:


Shadow Lord was the one where he would random drop his DEF or SPR on turn 2, yeah.
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RaidenZeroX
01/04/18 7:15:26 AM
#430:


I hated that thing. If it hit the spr drop first it wasn't that big of a deal, but if it didn't that sucked.
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The Mana Sword
01/04/18 7:57:19 AM
#431:


server is up

10+1 was garbage as usual
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RaidenZeroX
01/04/18 8:07:22 AM
#432:


Got a dupe Queen from the 10+1 ticket. She has a good 7*, doesn't she?
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Fiyun
01/04/18 8:16:33 AM
#433:


http://exviusdb.com/jp/units/queen/

Keep in mind ours is not 1:1.

And lol, Noctis 7* will still be a pain in the arena once he gets his multiflask in hindsight... (Not that Rem 7* is nicer...)
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voltch
01/04/18 8:23:41 AM
#434:


10+1 lol finally got Kefka and I guess Aura
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GANON1025
01/04/18 8:26:36 AM
#435:


Anyone else seeing "data retrieval failed because servers are busy" errors?
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Fiyun
01/04/18 8:27:49 AM
#436:


Oh yes....
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RaidenZeroX
01/04/18 8:49:13 AM
#437:


I can get in, but it crashes or connection errors whenever I try to do something. You'd think they'd have figured this out since it's been happening post maintenance for the last month.
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voltch
01/04/18 8:53:19 AM
#438:


Emptied my 10+1 tickets

Got Duke and Cloud #2.

I forget if cloud's tmr stacks.
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Fiyun
01/04/18 8:54:14 AM
#439:


It doesn't. Very few things above 30% stacks.
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voltch
01/04/18 8:54:50 AM
#440:


Well I guess 7 star Cloud is still kinda good.
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RaidenZeroX
01/04/18 9:52:18 AM
#441:


Hello emergency maintenance. If only they would figure out why their servers go to hell after every maintenance this wouldn't happen.
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Horith
01/04/18 9:53:50 AM
#442:


10+1 was a complete swing and a miss for me. One gold, Sozhe, another Zidane, and the rest utter garbage. Bedile, Xiao, two Frans, it was just a mess.
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The Mana Sword
01/04/18 9:56:03 AM
#443:


I demand at least 10 5* EX tickets as compensation for this emergency maintenance!!!
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BakusaiTenketsu
01/04/18 9:57:46 AM
#444:


Every time they have "emergency" maintenance, they should automatically reward a 100% Trust Moogle. Get it right the first time ^_^.
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RaidenZeroX
01/04/18 10:03:51 AM
#445:


I expect we'll get like 100 lapis and 10 nrg pots.
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The Mana Sword
01/04/18 10:11:50 AM
#446:


we usually get 100 Lapis per hour of extra maintenance, and this is scheduled for two, so I could see a bit more
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voltch
01/04/18 11:15:39 AM
#447:


10 10+1 tickets plz.
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RaidenZeroX
01/04/18 11:30:12 AM
#448:


voltch posted...
10 10+1 tickets plz.


I'd be okay with this, maybe I could finally get Christine. Spent 25k lapis and another 30 tickets and came up with no on banner rainbows again after the Cloud fail. 120k and about 85 tickets with one on banner rainbow to show for it. Step ups need to be here now.
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Wanglicious
01/04/18 11:33:30 AM
#449:


going that hard without stepups seems miserable. i'd just hold onto the lapis until it's time.
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RaidenZeroX
01/04/18 11:33:38 AM
#450:


Compensation: 250 lapis, 10 nrg pots
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