Current Events > Frozen Human Embryo thawed after 25 years, successfully implanted and birthed.

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tote_all posted...

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Something cool and bizarre happens in the science department and CE goes into a fistfight about it.

Just your another day in CE.
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DaemMkIV7 posted...

Something cool and bizarre happens in the science department and CE goes into a fistfight about it.

Just your another day in CE.

What would we do without our wonderful trolls like Bok Choi?
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Hey, I wasn't gonna say anything until I saw someone being a bully
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hurr "i can't extrapolate based on present evidence"

but ima link to this thing so i feel superior intellectually

durr
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At one point you will be able to make clone embryos, freeze them, upload your conscience to the cloud, thaw your embryo, birth it in a young woman, download your conscience from the cloud.

live forever.

kislev posted...

Gamer99z posted...

kislev posted...

The first baby resulting from a frozen-thawed embryo was born in Australia in 1984. The embryo had 8 cells when frozen, but 2 cells died during thawing.

The first baby resulting from a frozen-thawed embryo was born in Australia in 1984. The embryo had 8 cells when frozen, but 2 cells died during thawing. Even though the transferred embryo had only 6 living cells, it was still capable of developing into a normal baby.

We consider that any embryo that survives thawing with the majority of its cells intact has the potential to establish a pregnancy. In practice, over 90% of embryos survive with all their cells intact and these embryos implant at high rates after transfer. Damage to embryos tends to be an all-or-none phenomenon, that is, either the embryo survives or doesnt. Loss of cells does not result in birth defects.

https://www.pacificfertilitycenter.com/the-center/lab-faq

Considering the wording being identical, if you're going to copy/paste something off the internet at least read it first.

Losing 25% of ur cells and still being normal
Something doesnt add up

The remaining cells still reproduce normally during development. Losing some cells in an embryo more effects the likelihood of having a successful pregnancy, not really the resulting child if it's successful.
If anything it having less cells as an embryo and still successfully being born would probably mean it's genetically superior to the average person, not the other way around.
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tote_all posted...

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for a guy that demands a lot of elaboration, you sure do very little of it yourself
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I dont see the point of this.
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Forlorn_Ass posted...

I dont see the point of this.

future museum where we show you what babies of the 2010s, 2020s, and 2030s looked like vs the 2080s
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Dunning-Kruger effect describes how some people are unable to properly assess their own skills in relation to others, so they make the mistake of thinking they are better than they are?
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That baby is old enough to drink, drive, smoke, die for her country AND is too old for Roy Moore.

Also the surrogate is about my age, spooky how all these big breakthroughs are finally happening with people my age.
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That's pretty damn cool
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this mean dat abortion banned?

I wonder if there's any scenario for genetic differentiations for those who have lost some number of cells.

Not necessarily defects, but possibly losing some of it's own genetics from the dead cells, and regaining some traits passed on by the birth mother to sorta "fill the gap" and result in genetic traits being picked from by the mother(at a higher rate than a none frozen embryo)

I'm far from even claiming to know much about this, and I find it quite fascinating tbh.

Can anyone give me a better idea?
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Does dna break down at those temperatures?
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itachi15243 posted...

I wonder if there's any scenario for genetic differentiations for those who have lost some number of cells.

Not necessarily defects, but possibly losing some of it's own genetics from the dead cells, and regaining some traits passed on by the birth mother to sorta "fill the gap" and result in genetic traits being picked from by the mother(at a higher rate than a none frozen embryo)

I'm far from even claiming to know much about this, and I find it quite fascinating tbh.

Can anyone give me a better idea?

As unsatisfying of an answer as it is, the data just isn't there for that. Obviously because generally they go for the healthiest embryo.
You get into ethical issues where they intentionally birth weaker embryos just to see what happens.
What we do know is it largely just impacts success rates of the pregnancy, not the outcome of the child unless there's other issues such as chromosome issues.
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wtf what if the kid gets ice powers or some shit
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Gamer99z posted...

itachi15243 posted...

I wonder if there's any scenario for genetic differentiations for those who have lost some number of cells.

Not necessarily defects, but possibly losing some of it's own genetics from the dead cells, and regaining some traits passed on by the birth mother to sorta "fill the gap" and result in genetic traits being picked from by the mother(at a higher rate than a none frozen embryo)

I'm far from even claiming to know much about this, and I find it quite fascinating tbh.

Can anyone give me a better idea?

As unsatisfying of an answer as it is, the data just isn't there for that. Obviously because generally they go for the healthiest embryo.
You get into ethical issues where they intentionally birth weaker embryos just to see what happens.
What we do know is it largely just impacts success rates of the pregnancy, not the outcome of the child unless there's other issues such as chromosome issues.

Damn, I guess that makes sense. Although it would be interesting if at least we could somehow learn to compare what a frozen embryo either birthed by the genetic and non genetic parents would be. Including tests to see if anomalies or different genetic differentiations appear between both children.

Although considering the ethics and ramifications, I doubt that might even be currently possible.

I feel like some sort of genetic imprinting onto the child would make sense at the least.
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Pretty cool but can they turn me back into an embryo and freeze me for the future?
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SoundNetwork posted...

wtf what if the kid gets ice powers or some shit

Gonna raise an army of ice zombies
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That's pretty damn cool
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That's pretty damn cool
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thats really awesome
and needs to be stopped
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tote_all posted...

Gamer99z posted...

Why do you say that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect

Not trying to stir the pot anymore. I read through the thread. But. I don't get what this has to do with the topic. Elaborate please??

We dreamed of creating the world's strongest Pokmon... and we succeeded.
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Wasssup Now posted...

tote_all posted...

Gamer99z posted...

Why do you say that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect

Not trying to stir the pot anymore. I read through the thread. But. I don't get what this has to do with the topic. Elaborate please??

He was saying it about the person he was responding seriously to. kislev aka Southcoast aka a bunch of other alts over the years is a known shit poster who in basically every discussion he's ever in displays something similar to the DKE
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Guerrilla Soldier posted...

thats really awesome
and needs to be stopped

lol
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MrToddWall posted...

this mean dat abortion banned?

Nah

PtlessAgmnts posted...

MrToddWall posted...

this mean dat abortion banned?

Nah

gotta have an abortion to get an embryo that you can freeze
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what

what

bump for some good friday discussion of FROZEN DEATH BABIES!!!

(25 years later) poster thaws off gamefaqs thread frozen for 25 years and posts in it.
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Does that mean he can make a GameFAQs account?
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wow this actually has enormous implications for something like space travel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embryo_space_colonization