Current Events > What happens to a three-year-old kid who starts a fire that kills 12 people?

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slk_23
12/30/17 3:45:06 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/28/us/bronx-fire/index.html

That's seriously unfortunate. Three-year-olds don't know any better. You can't really punish them for it. But what does the law do in this case? Do the parents face legal trouble? Do they have to pay for the damages? Does the kid grow up never knowing what they did, or will someone eventually tell them that they killed twelve people when they were three years old?
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YookaLaylee
12/30/17 3:47:31 PM
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Just give him counseling and maybe give him new guardians
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Hexenherz
12/30/17 3:49:12 PM
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TheDarkCircle
12/30/17 3:50:02 PM
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Nothing. It was an accident.
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pkmnlord
12/30/17 3:50:43 PM
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Wait until they're 18 then book 'em.
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DeanAuryn
12/30/17 3:50:51 PM
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He grows up and becomes an adult one day?
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Solid Snake07
12/30/17 3:51:09 PM
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TheDarkCircle posted...
Nothing. It was an accident.

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yoshirulezz1
12/30/17 3:51:31 PM
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Arrest the mother. She's the one forgot to close to apartment door and potentially warn the others.
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itachi15243
12/30/17 3:52:50 PM
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His mother might get charges related to child neglect and potentially harming a child, losing custody. If anything, that's it though. I doubt they'll tell the kid unless he remembers and asks later, or is told by someone upset at him and his mother.
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bover_87
12/30/17 3:53:27 PM
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TheDarkCircle posted...
Nothing. It was an accident.

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Zikten
12/30/17 3:55:52 PM
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bover_87 posted...
TheDarkCircle posted...
Nothing. It was an accident.

The mom let it happen with her neglect. she has to pay
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TheDarkCircle
12/30/17 3:56:09 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
His mother might get charges related to child neglect and potentially harming a child, losing custody. If anything, that's it though. I doubt they'll tell the kid unless he remembers and asks later, or is told by someone upset at him and his mother.


Unfortunately I think the kid will remember and carry it with him the rest of his life. 3 years old might have been too young to understand what he was doing was dangerous, but it's old enough to make memories of traumatic events like this.

The mother sounds like a complete moron, on so many levels. But I think proving neglect in this case is pretty hard. She didn't leave the kids home alone etc. Just because the kid was in the kitchen alone doesn't prove neglect.
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bover_87
12/30/17 3:57:23 PM
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TheDarkCircle posted...
itachi15243 posted...
His mother might get charges related to child neglect and potentially harming a child, losing custody. If anything, that's it though. I doubt they'll tell the kid unless he remembers and asks later, or is told by someone upset at him and his mother.


Unfortunately I think the kid will remember and carry it with him the rest of his life. 3 years old might have been too young to understand what he was doing was dangerous, but it's old enough to make memories of traumatic events like this.

The mother sounds like a complete moron, on so many levels. But I think proving neglect in this case is pretty hard. She didn't leave the kids home alone etc. Just because the kid was in the kitchen alone doesn't prove neglect.

But they also found out the kid had a habit of playing with the stove. Any competent parent should realize a child that young who plays with a stove should not be allowed in the kitchen alone.
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Irony
12/30/17 3:59:44 PM
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Jail the mother
Put the kid in a mental institution
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HiddenRoar
12/30/17 4:01:10 PM
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>Plays with Stove
>'Accident'

lolno. That's negligence.
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Dorfl_2
12/30/17 4:02:27 PM
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You really can't keep tabs on 3 year olds every second of the day.
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itachi15243
12/30/17 4:02:32 PM
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TheDarkCircle posted...
itachi15243 posted...
His mother might get charges related to child neglect and potentially harming a child, losing custody. If anything, that's it though. I doubt they'll tell the kid unless he remembers and asks later, or is told by someone upset at him and his mother.


Unfortunately I think the kid will remember and carry it with him the rest of his life. 3 years old might have been too young to understand what he was doing was dangerous, but it's old enough to make memories of traumatic events like this.

The mother sounds like a complete moron, on so many levels. But I think proving neglect in this case is pretty hard. She didn't leave the kids home alone etc. Just because the kid was in the kitchen alone doesn't prove neglect.


I know, that's why I said maybe neglect. And I only even say maybe because of how it mentions him being alone with the stove after having a habit of playing with the burners.

Either way I doubt she'll actually be convicted of anything. If anything probably just mandatory counseling for the kid and cps check ups for a while.
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TheMarthKoopa
12/30/17 4:19:09 PM
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The boy in the first-floor apartment had a history of playing with the stove burners,


Jail the mom for life. Teach your kids to not play with shit like that
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Villain
12/30/17 4:20:31 PM
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Sounds like a neglect charge
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CookieMarvin
12/30/17 4:21:02 PM
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that baby needs to do time
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1NfamousACE_2
12/30/17 4:21:58 PM
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Ban stoves

But seriously, I read a comment on one of the stories from another lady who said her child had a habit of doing that. Said she took the knobs off the stove every night before bed.
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refmon
12/30/17 4:23:14 PM
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pkmnlord posted...
Wait until they're 18 then book 'em.

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Lil_Bit83
12/30/17 4:25:56 PM
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Nothing of legal consequence. I'm sure the poor kid will have guilt problems later down the road. Even adults and teens have accidentally set things on fire.
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StridentArremer
12/30/17 4:31:26 PM
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Charges may be brought against the parents, but I would imagine a social worker would look at the situation first to see if the accident is a result of the parents' neglect. If not, then it's probably doubtful charges will be filed against anyone.

It's tragic, but accidents like this aren't necessarily anyone's fault.
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gunplagirl
12/30/17 4:34:59 PM
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Death penalty, only way to take care of a killer baby. Look at the shooting death rates from toddlers. We have to deport them while we have a chance.
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Dorfl_2
12/31/17 5:36:28 AM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Ban stoves

But seriously, I read a comment on one of the stories from another lady who said her child had a habit of doing that. Said she took the knobs off the stove every night before bed.

Wouldn't it be easier to lock the kitchen door at night?
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Aristoph
12/31/17 5:40:02 AM
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Dorfl_2 posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Ban stoves

But seriously, I read a comment on one of the stories from another lady who said her child had a habit of doing that. Said she took the knobs off the stove every night before bed.

Wouldn't it be easier to lock the kitchen door at night?


Most houses I've been in don't have doors on the kitchen. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a kitchen with doors in my life.
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MuayThai85
12/31/17 5:44:20 AM
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Aristoph posted...
Dorfl_2 posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Ban stoves

But seriously, I read a comment on one of the stories from another lady who said her child had a habit of doing that. Said she took the knobs off the stove every night before bed.

Wouldn't it be easier to lock the kitchen door at night?


Most houses I've been in don't have doors on the kitchen. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a kitchen with doors in my life.

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Sativa_Rose
12/31/17 5:46:57 AM
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One of the reasons there is usually not a door to the kitchen itself is that people may need both hands to carry pots and trays and stuff out of the kitchen
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1NfamousACE_2
12/31/17 6:29:35 AM
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Aristoph posted...
Dorfl_2 posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Ban stoves

But seriously, I read a comment on one of the stories from another lady who said her child had a habit of doing that. Said she took the knobs off the stove every night before bed.

Wouldn't it be easier to lock the kitchen door at night?


Most houses I've been in don't have doors on the kitchen. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a kitchen with doors in my life.


Especially in person.

I only see like those restaurant type doors that swing in kitchens on TV and in movies.
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EternalDivide
12/31/17 6:51:56 AM
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Nothing. The kid will probably retain some memory of it when they get older. I mean I can remember stuff from 3. So he'll probably be a basket case later on in life.
The mom? Well she's an idiot but I don't think you could realistically pin anything on her over this.
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Dorfl_2
12/31/17 12:19:59 PM
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Aristoph posted...
Most houses I've been in don't have doors on the kitchen. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a kitchen with doors in my life.

Really? Apart from open plan kitchens, I haven't seen any without doors. The doors are hardly ever shut, but they exist.
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Turbam
12/31/17 12:21:44 PM
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Throw the book at him
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KStateKing17
12/31/17 12:29:14 PM
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Dorfl_2 posted...
Aristoph posted...
Most houses I've been in don't have doors on the kitchen. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a kitchen with doors in my life.

Really? Apart from open plan kitchens, I haven't seen any without doors. The doors are hardly ever shut, but they exist.

I've seen some on tv, but kitchen doors are not common to my knowledge unless it's a door that goes outside.
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DifferentialEquation
12/31/17 12:30:27 PM
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Depending on the other circumstances of the case, either life in jail or the death penalty.
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Alucard188
12/31/17 12:31:49 PM
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I blame the mother, but there will be no charges laid here. The 3 year old is acting like a 3 year old. The mom should have had better supervision of him.

1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Said she took the knobs off the stove every night before bed.


I've seen this done as well. It's something the mother should have done if the knobs for the stove are within reach of a toddler.
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DarkChozoGhost
12/31/17 12:35:24 PM
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Landlord needs to pay a fine for not replacing the faulty fire detectors and carbon monoxide detectors.
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Awesome
12/31/17 12:53:18 PM
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its weird how at only 3 the kid is an arsonist thug
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