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Verdekal 12/31/17 3:53:35 PM #1:	did he know ahead of time that Job would keep his faith? --- Don't tease the octopus, kids! <cite>Verdekal posted [p:893188445] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote>did he know ahead of time that Job would keep his faith?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 12/31/17 3:55:32 PM #3:	Steve Jobs? --- http://i.imgur.com/pmc9XsI.gif http://i.imgur.com/LkrRVe2.gifv http://i.imgur.com/Dp03g3y.jpg Cute? B**, I'm adorable. <cite>Kitt posted [p:893188546] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote>Steve Jobs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FigureOfSpeech 12/31/17 3:59:16 PM #4:	Kitt posted... Steve Jobs? That guy was a douche --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>FigureOfSpeech posted [p:893188752] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote>Steve Jobs?</quote> That guy was a douche</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 12/31/17 4:02:29 PM #5:	Verdekal posted... did he know ahead of time that Job would keep his faith? God knowing everything renders every thought, action, consequence, etc redundant. If the biblical god knows everything, which it clearly states that He does, then there really is no free will. God knew Adam and Eve would eat from the forbidden fruit. Why the hell have a forbidden fruit in the garden of Eden, anyway??? inb4 some dumbass, nonintellectual atheist comes in and says "there is no god". --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:893188970] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>Verdekal posted...</cite> <quote>did he know ahead of time that Job would keep his faith?</quote> God knowing everything renders every thought, action, consequence, etc redundant. If the biblical god knows everything, which it clearly states that He does, then there really is no free will. God knew Adam and Eve would eat from the forbidden fruit. Why the hell have a forbidden fruit in the garden of Eden, anyway??? inb4 some dumbass, nonintellectual atheist comes in and says "there is no god".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EbonTitanium 12/31/17 4:05:03 PM #6:	God doesn't know everything. --- I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist. <cite>EbonTitanium posted [p:893189141] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote>God doesn't know everything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 12/31/17 4:08:50 PM #7:	We can only see what is directly in front of us. God can see the whole picture, but claiming that foreknowledge means free will doesn't exist is preposterous. He knows what will happen, but he allows things to play out regardless. --- My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army. <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:893189356] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote>We can only see what is directly in front of us. God can see the whole picture, but claiming that foreknowledge means free will doesn't exist is preposterous. He knows what will happen, but he allows things to play out regardless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FigureOfSpeech 12/31/17 4:13:01 PM #8:	SageHarpuia posted... We can only see what is directly in front of us. God can see the whole picture, but claiming that foreknowledge means free will doesn't exist is preposterous. He knows what will happen, but he allows things to play out regardless. I though you were a Muslim? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>FigureOfSpeech posted [p:893189573] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>We can only see what is directly in front of us. God can see the whole picture, but claiming that foreknowledge means free will doesn't exist is preposterous. He knows what will happen, but he allows things to play out regardless.</quote> I though you were a Muslim?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 12/31/17 4:15:15 PM #9:	SageHarpuia posted... claiming that foreknowledge means free will doesn't exist is preposterous. You can't have both, though. Let's say that, for the sake of argument, the Christian god exists. He knew, before the creation of the universe, that we'd be having this conversation on gamefaqs. He knew that I would be eating subway, right now. He knows what I'm going to be doing tomorrow at 3:30 PM. If this is true, then that's predetermined. Predestined. You can't have those, AND free will. --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:893189707] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>claiming that foreknowledge means free will doesn't exist is preposterous.</quote> You can't have both, though. Let's say that, for the sake of argument, the Christian god exists. He knew, before the creation of the universe, that we'd be having this conversation on gamefaqs. He knew that I would be eating subway, right now. He knows what I'm going to be doing tomorrow at 3:30 PM. If this is true, then that's predetermined. Predestined. You can't have those, AND free will.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 12/31/17 4:17:48 PM #10:	Even if I was Muslim, what difference would it make? They have they story of Job in the Koran --- My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army. <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:893189853] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote>Even if I was Muslim, what difference would it make? They have they story of Job in the Koran</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FigureOfSpeech 12/31/17 4:18:29 PM #11:	SageHarpuia posted... Even if I was Muslim, what difference would it make? They have they story of Job in the Koran I didn't say it would make a difference --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>FigureOfSpeech posted [p:893189893] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>Even if I was Muslim, what difference would it make? They have they story of Job in the Koran</quote> I didn't say it would make a difference</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ProtoManSPx 12/31/17 4:19:15 PM #12:	Dyinglegacy posted... SageHarpuia posted... claiming that foreknowledge means free will doesn't exist is preposterous. You can't have both, though. Let's say that, for the sake of argument, the Christian god exists. He knew, before the creation of the universe, that we'd be having this conversation on gamefaqs. He knew that I would be eating subway, right now. He knows what I'm going to be doing tomorrow at 3:30 PM. If this is true, then that's predetermined. Predestined. You can't have those, AND free will. What God can see and what you do are two separate concepts. <cite>ProtoManSPx posted [p:893189938] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>claiming that foreknowledge means free will doesn't exist is preposterous.</quote> You can't have both, though. Let's say that, for the sake of argument, the Christian god exists. He knew, before the creation of the universe, that we'd be having this conversation on gamefaqs. He knew that I would be eating subway, right now. He knows what I'm going to be doing tomorrow at 3:30 PM. If this is true, then that's predetermined. Predestined. You can't have those, AND free will.</quote> What God can see and what you do are two separate concepts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 12/31/17 4:19:41 PM #13:	You can't have both, though. Let's say that, for the sake of argument, the Christian god exists. He knew, before the creation of the universe, that we'd be having this conversation on gamefaqs. He knew that I would be eating subway, right now. He knows what I'm going to be doing tomorrow at 3:30 PM. If this is true, then that's predetermined. Predestined. You can't have those, AND free will. You're getting hung up on foreknowledge. He knew that we would make said choices ahead of time, but he allowed us to. --- My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army. <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:893189962] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><quote>You can't have both, though. Let's say that, for the sake of argument, the Christian god exists. He knew, before the creation of the universe, that we'd be having this conversation on gamefaqs. He knew that I would be eating subway, right now. He knows what I'm going to be doing tomorrow at 3:30 PM. If this is true, then that's predetermined. Predestined. You can't have those, AND free will.</quote> You're getting hung up on foreknowledge. He knew that we would make said choices ahead of time, but he allowed us to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/31/17 4:20:58 PM #14:	ProtoManSPx posted... Dyinglegacy posted... SageHarpuia posted... claiming that foreknowledge means free will doesn't exist is preposterous. You can't have both, though. Let's say that, for the sake of argument, the Christian god exists. He knew, before the creation of the universe, that we'd be having this conversation on gamefaqs. He knew that I would be eating subway, right now. He knows what I'm going to be doing tomorrow at 3:30 PM. If this is true, then that's predetermined. Predestined. You can't have those, AND free will. What God can see and what you do are two separate concepts. but if someone is capable of knowing exactly how something will turn out means that there's only one possible outcome. there can't be alternate outcomes or else god wouldn't be sure which path you'd take, in which case he doesn't know everything --- Hey what's going on in this thread http://i.imgur.com/6fpKRW8.gif http://i.imgur.com/RNZi0gk.gif <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:893190043] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>ProtoManSPx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>claiming that foreknowledge means free will doesn't exist is preposterous.</quote> You can't have both, though. Let's say that, for the sake of argument, the Christian god exists. He knew, before the creation of the universe, that we'd be having this conversation on gamefaqs. He knew that I would be eating subway, right now. He knows what I'm going to be doing tomorrow at 3:30 PM. If this is true, then that's predetermined. Predestined. You can't have those, AND free will.</quote> What God can see and what you do are two separate concepts.</quote> but if someone is capable of knowing exactly how something will turn out means that there's only one possible outcome. there can't be alternate outcomes or else god wouldn't be sure which path you'd take, in which case he doesn't know everything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dyinglegacy 12/31/17 4:22:34 PM #16:	I have a question for you, then. Before the dawn of existence, did God know who was going to go to heaven, and who was going to go to Hell, before people were even created? --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:893190140] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote>I have a question for you, then. Before the dawn of existence, did God know who was going to go to heaven, and who was going to go to Hell, before people were even created?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 12/31/17 4:24:35 PM #17:	I can let my child play around a hot stove knowing he will get burned. That doesn't make it any less of his choice to touch it. --- My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army. <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:893190266] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote>I can let my child play around a hot stove knowing he will get burned. That doesn't make it any less of his choice to touch it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/31/17 4:25:44 PM #18:	SageHarpuia posted... I can let my child play around a hot stove knowing he will get burned. That doesn't make it any less of his choice to touch it. there's a difference when you know what the result will be no matter what --- Hey what's going on in this thread http://i.imgur.com/6fpKRW8.gif http://i.imgur.com/RNZi0gk.gif <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:893190318] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>I can let my child play around a hot stove knowing he will get burned. That doesn't make it any less of his choice to touch it.</quote> there's a difference when you know what the result will be no matter what</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 12/31/17 4:25:52 PM #19:	The difference is that God already knows if you're going to touch it or not. You don't know if you're child is going to touch the stove. --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:893190327] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote>The difference is that God already knows if you're going to touch it or not. You don't know if you're child is going to touch the stove.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DesuDeku 12/31/17 4:26:03 PM #20:	Dyinglegacy posted... Verdekal posted... did he know ahead of time that Job would keep his faith? God knowing everything renders every thought, action, consequence, etc redundant. If the biblical god knows everything, which it clearly states that He does, then there really is no free will. God knew Adam and Eve would eat from the forbidden fruit. Why the hell have a forbidden fruit in the garden of Eden, anyway??? inb4 some dumbass, nonintellectual atheist comes in and says "there is no god". Edit: I'm agnostic, btw. I find the question as to whether or not there is a god, to be unknown. I mean, just because God knew you were going to do something bad doesn't mean you should have done it in the first place. We're free to do whatever we want (as long as we're physically capable). Blaming God just because he knew we were going to do it beforehand just sounds like an excuse to not take responsibility for our own actions. --- Error's bootycall <cite>DesuDeku posted [p:893190342] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Verdekal posted...</cite> <quote>did he know ahead of time that Job would keep his faith?</quote> God knowing everything renders every thought, action, consequence, etc redundant. If the biblical god knows everything, which it clearly states that He does, then there really is no free will. God knew Adam and Eve would eat from the forbidden fruit. Why the hell have a forbidden fruit in the garden of Eden, anyway??? inb4 some dumbass, nonintellectual atheist comes in and says "there is no god". Edit: I'm agnostic, btw. I find the question as to whether or not there is a god, to be unknown.</quote> I mean, just because God knew you were going to do something bad doesn't mean you should have done it in the first place. We're free to do whatever we want (as long as we're physically capable). Blaming God just because he knew we were going to do it beforehand just sounds like an excuse to not take responsibility for our own actions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 12/31/17 4:26:03 PM #21:	Dyinglegacy posted... I have a question for you, then. Before the dawn of existence, did God know who was going to go to heaven, and who was going to go to Hell, before people were even created? Yes. --- My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army. <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:893190343] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>I have a question for you, then. Before the dawn of existence, did God know who was going to go to heaven, and who was going to go to Hell, before people were even created?</quote> Yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kasperia 12/31/17 4:26:22 PM #22:	Dyinglegacy posted... I have a question for you, then. Before the dawn of existence, did God know who was going to go to heaven, and who was going to go to Hell, before people were even created? How could he since people didn't even exist back then? <cite>Kasperia posted [p:893190363] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>I have a question for you, then. Before the dawn of existence, did God know who was going to go to heaven, and who was going to go to Hell, before people were even created?</quote> How could he since people didn't even exist back then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/31/17 4:28:09 PM #23:	Kasperia posted... Dyinglegacy posted... I have a question for you, then. Before the dawn of existence, did God know who was going to go to heaven, and who was going to go to Hell, before people were even created? How could he since people didn't even exist back then? cause he knew they would exist. its how omniscience works and it's why omniscience is a ridiculous concept when paired with the idea of free will --- Hey what's going on in this thread http://i.imgur.com/6fpKRW8.gif http://i.imgur.com/RNZi0gk.gif <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:893190445] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kasperia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>I have a question for you, then. Before the dawn of existence, did God know who was going to go to heaven, and who was going to go to Hell, before people were even created?</quote> How could he since people didn't even exist back then?</quote> cause he knew they would exist. its how omniscience works and it's why omniscience is a ridiculous concept when paired with the idea of free will</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 12/31/17 4:28:27 PM #24:	He knows what is going to happen, but he doesn't intervene because we have free will. --- My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army. <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:893190459] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote>He knows what is going to happen, but he doesn't intervene because we have free will.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 12/31/17 4:31:52 PM #25:	Does not compute --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:893190643] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote>Does not compute</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 12/31/17 4:37:34 PM #26:	I don't understand why so many people can't wrap their head around it, it's a rather simple concept. --- My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army. <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:893190925] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote>I don't understand why so many people can't wrap their head around it, it's a rather simple concept.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ProtoManSPx 12/31/17 4:40:10 PM #28:	ThyCorndog posted... ProtoManSPx posted... Dyinglegacy posted... SageHarpuia posted... claiming that foreknowledge means free will doesn't exist is preposterous. You can't have both, though. Let's say that, for the sake of argument, the Christian god exists. He knew, before the creation of the universe, that we'd be having this conversation on gamefaqs. He knew that I would be eating subway, right now. He knows what I'm going to be doing tomorrow at 3:30 PM. If this is true, then that's predetermined. Predestined. You can't have those, AND free will. What God can see and what you do are two separate concepts. but if someone is capable of knowing exactly how something will turn out means that there's only one possible outcome. there can't be alternate outcomes or else god wouldn't be sure which path you'd take, in which case he doesn't know everything Why can't there be multiple outcomes in which God sees them all? He can be aware of all futures outside of "this one". That's part of how he makes choices. <cite>ProtoManSPx posted [p:893191046] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ProtoManSPx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>claiming that foreknowledge means free will doesn't exist is preposterous.</quote> You can't have both, though. Let's say that, for the sake of argument, the Christian god exists. He knew, before the creation of the universe, that we'd be having this conversation on gamefaqs. He knew that I would be eating subway, right now. He knows what I'm going to be doing tomorrow at 3:30 PM. If this is true, then that's predetermined. Predestined. You can't have those, AND free will.</quote> What God can see and what you do are two separate concepts.</quote> but if someone is capable of knowing exactly how something will turn out means that there's only one possible outcome. there can't be alternate outcomes or else god wouldn't be sure which path you'd take, in which case he doesn't know everything</quote> Why can't there be multiple outcomes in which God sees them all? He can be aware of all futures outside of "this one". That's part of how he makes choices.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ProtoManSPx 12/31/17 4:44:28 PM #29:	VoightKent posted... Here's a news flash: this isn't the only universe that God is aware of. Every choice that we made is a result of God imparting a specific soul at a specific time. Think about all the possible universes for each billions upon billions of sperm that WEREN'T conceived. Now you know God's glory. I don't think other universes exist; not as something we could travel to and walk in, assuming we had the means. I believe other universes and future's exist in God's mind as a concept; a byproduct of knowing all things. <cite>ProtoManSPx posted [p:893191265] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>VoightKent posted...</cite> <quote>Here's a news flash: this isn't the only universe that God is aware of. Every choice that we made is a result of God imparting a specific soul at a specific time. Think about all the possible universes for each billions upon billions of sperm that WEREN'T conceived. Now you know God's glory.</quote> I don't think other universes exist; not as something we could travel to and walk in, assuming we had the means. I believe other universes and future's exist in God's mind as a concept; a byproduct of knowing all things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 12/31/17 4:45:36 PM #30:	ProtoManSPx posted... Why can't there be multiple outcomes in which God sees them all? He can be aware of all futures outside of "this one". That's part of how he makes choices. That makes more sense than "God knows what you're going to do before you do it". And I've actually thought of this before, and was waiting for someone else to bring it up. I thought of it in an analogy like this: God is a scientist, and I'm a rat running a maze. Well, God is standing above the maze, and has a panoramic view of every path, and where those paths lead. I'm running the maze, so I have the choice as which path I take in the maze. Some of these paths lead to dead ends, and some lead to the cheese. The scientist leaves the "choice" as to which path the rat takes through the maze, but can still see every possible outcome. --- PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:893191310] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>ProtoManSPx posted...</cite> <quote>Why can't there be multiple outcomes in which God sees them all? He can be aware of all futures outside of "this one". That's part of how he makes choices.</quote> That makes more sense than "God knows what you're going to do before you do it". And I've actually thought of this before, and was waiting for someone else to bring it up. I thought of it in an analogy like this: God is a scientist, and I'm a rat running a maze. Well, God is standing above the maze, and has a panoramic view of every path, and where those paths lead. I'm running the maze, so I have the choice as which path I take in the maze. Some of these paths lead to dead ends, and some lead to the cheese. The scientist leaves the "choice" as to which path the rat takes through the maze, but can still see every possible outcome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Marauder64 12/31/17 4:45:51 PM #31:	Dyinglegacy posted... I have a question for you, then. Before the dawn of existence, did God know who was going to go to heaven, and who was going to go to Hell, before people were even created? Yes. God knows everything. If God says something will take place....it will. Best be thankful you weren't destined to be the Beast. --- The code of the elitist: If people like it, it sucks. : Sinix. PSN: Gridmac <cite>Marauder64 posted [p:893191328] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>I have a question for you, then. Before the dawn of existence, did God know who was going to go to heaven, and who was going to go to Hell, before people were even created?</quote> Yes. God knows everything. If God says something will take place....it will. Best be thankful you weren't destined to be the Beast.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordMarshal 12/31/17 4:47:57 PM #32:	God makes no sense at all. He needs money though. Whats worse is he already knows youll give it to him. You can believe whatever but it wont change the nothing that happens when you die. You ceased to exist before you were born and you will cease to exist after you die. Go find a religion to tell you a nice story to make you feel better about it, for a cost. --- There can be only one. <cite>LordMarshal posted [p:893191423] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote>God makes no sense at all. He needs money though. Whats worse is he already knows youll give it to him. You can believe whatever but it wont change the nothing that happens when you die. You ceased to exist before you were born and you will cease to exist after you die. Go find a religion to tell you a nice story to make you feel better about it, for a cost.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Marauder64 12/31/17 5:16:38 PM #33:	SageHarpuia posted... He knows what is going to happen, but he doesn't intervene because we have free will. I dunno..... God knows whats going to happen....and we get to view some of what he's said is going to happen via reading scripture........ God allows things to happen for his own reasons. I believe we just have limited freewill within the scope of what Gods already planned for us. Our purpose for being here as it were. Remember in Job, even the devil was just a tool used to test Job. God can use whomever he wants however he wants. What one should hope for is to be chosen by God, drawn by him to his son Jesus Christ....and chosen to be his servant, through Christ. It even comes with the benefit of eternal life! --- The code of the elitist: If people like it, it sucks. : Sinix. PSN: Gridmac <cite>Marauder64 posted [p:893192905] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>He knows what is going to happen, but he doesn't intervene because we have free will.</quote> I dunno..... God knows whats going to happen....and we get to view some of what he's said is going to happen via reading scripture........ God allows things to happen for his own reasons. I believe we just have limited freewill within the scope of what Gods already planned for us. Our purpose for being here as it were. Remember in Job, even the devil was just a tool used to test Job. God can use whomever he wants however he wants. What one should hope for is to be chosen by God, drawn by him to his son Jesus Christ....and chosen to be his servant, through Christ. It even comes with the benefit of eternal life!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 12/31/17 5:18:02 PM #34:	Does God watch me deed? --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign Twenty million starving and writhing in pain <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:893192976] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote>Does God watch me deed?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kasperia 12/31/17 6:21:40 PM #36:	VoightKent posted... ProtoManSPx posted... I don't think other universes exist; not as something we could travel to and walk in, assuming we had the means. I believe other universes and future's exist in God's mind as a concept; a byproduct of knowing all things. Why would God only make a single universe with a single planet with a single geographical layout? Maybe God's just single-minded. <cite>Kasperia posted [p:893196479] in If God kno... [t:76155230]...</cite> <quote><cite>VoightKent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ProtoManSPx posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think other universes exist; not as something we could travel to and walk in, assuming we had the means. I believe other universes and future's exist in God's mind as a concept; a byproduct of knowing all things. </quote> Why would God only make a single universe with a single planet with a single geographical layout?</quote> Maybe God's just single-minded.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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