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Mr_Biscuit 01/03/18 11:45:22 PM #1:	http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/michael-wolff-fire-and-fury-book-donald-trump.html This is a tremendous and scary read. Well skip the FAKE NEWS by posting the source info at the bottom of the article here: This story is adapted from Michael Wolffs book Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, to be published by Henry Holt & Co. on January 9. Wolff, who chronicles the administration from Election Day to this past October, conducted conversations and interviews over a period of 18 months with the president, most members of his senior staff, and many people to whom they in turn spoke. Shortly after Trumps inauguration, Wolff says, he was able to take up something like a semi-permanent seat on a couch in the West Wing an idea encouraged by the president himself. Because no one was in a position to either officially approve or formally deny such access, Wolff became more a constant interloper than an invited guest. There were no ground rules placed on his access, and he was required to make no promises about how he would report on what he witnessed. Since then, he conducted more than 200 interviews. In true Trumpian fashion, the administrations lack of experience and disdain for political norms made for a hodgepodge of journalistic challenges. Information would be provided off-the-record or on deep background, then casually put on the record. Sources would fail to set any parameters on the use of a conversation, or would provide accounts in confidence, only to subsequently share their views widely. And the presidents own views, private as well as public, were constantly shared by others. The adaptation presented here offers a front-row view of Trumps presidency, from his improvised transition to his first months in the Oval Office. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:893386977] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote>http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/michael-wolff-fire-and-fury-book-donald-trump.html This is a tremendous and scary read. Well skip the FAKE NEWS by posting the source info at the bottom of the article here: This story is adapted from Michael Wolffs book Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, to be published by Henry Holt & Co. on January 9. Wolff, who chronicles the administration from Election Day to this past October, conducted conversations and interviews over a period of 18 months with the president, most members of his senior staff, and many people to whom they in turn spoke. Shortly after Trumps inauguration, Wolff says, he was able to take up something like a semi-permanent seat on a couch in the West Wing an idea encouraged by the president himself. Because no one was in a position to either officially approve or formally deny such access, Wolff became more a constant interloper than an invited guest. There were no ground rules placed on his access, and he was required to make no promises about how he would report on what he witnessed. Since then, he conducted more than 200 interviews. In true Trumpian fashion, the administrations lack of experience and disdain for political norms made for a hodgepodge of journalistic challenges. Information would be provided off-the-record or on deep background, then casually put on the record. Sources would fail to set any parameters on the use of a conversation, or would provide accounts in confidence, only to subsequently share their views widely. And the presidents own views, private as well as public, were constantly shared by others. The adaptation presented here offers a front-row view of Trumps presidency, from his improvised transition to his first months in the Oval Office.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deedice 01/04/18 12:11:34 AM #2:	Interesting --- Drake the type of dude to gather the Dragon Balls to wish that his ex finds a good man. - KMNL <cite>Deedice posted [p:893388095] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote>Interesting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 01/04/18 12:20:41 AM #3:	Its a long read, but well worth it. I actually was wondering how could the author possibly have these quotes? but the dude was literally there. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:893388452] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote>Its a long read, but well worth it. I actually was wondering how could the author possibly have these quotes? but the dude was literally there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 01/04/18 12:27:28 AM #4:	This is liberal fan fiction. For full disclosure, written by this guy: --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:893388706] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote>This is liberal fan fiction. For full disclosure, written by this guy: </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GhettoFlip 01/04/18 12:32:36 AM #5:	Capn Circus posted... This is liberal fan fiction. For full disclosure, written by this guy: No idea who that is and I'm decently well versed when it comes to journalists's faces. I'm confused as to why you'd think that picture would mean anything to CE --- #linning <cite>GhettoFlip posted [p:893388902] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote>This is liberal fan fiction. For full disclosure, written by this guy: </quote> No idea who that is and I'm decently well versed when it comes to journalists's faces. I'm confused as to why you'd think that picture would mean anything to CE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 01/04/18 12:47:14 AM #6:	GhettoFlip posted... Capn Circus posted... This is liberal fan fiction. For full disclosure, written by this guy: No idea who that is and I'm decently well versed when it comes to journalists's faces. I'm confused as to why you'd think that picture would mean anything to CE That's the person who wrote this, and who has also been criticized in the past by numerous people for changing and inventing quotes. And just by looking at him should give most people the heebie jeebies. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:893389533] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote><cite>GhettoFlip posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote>This is liberal fan fiction. For full disclosure, written by this guy: </quote> No idea who that is and I'm decently well versed when it comes to journalists's faces. I'm confused as to why you'd think that picture would mean anything to CE</quote> That's the person who wrote this, and who has also been criticized in the past by numerous people for changing and inventing quotes. And just by looking at him should give most people the heebie jeebies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hicks233 01/04/18 12:50:24 AM #7:	Capn Circus posted... GhettoFlip posted... Capn Circus posted... This is liberal fan fiction. For full disclosure, written by this guy: No idea who that is and I'm decently well versed when it comes to journalists's faces. I'm confused as to why you'd think that picture would mean anything to CE That's the person who wrote this, and who has also been criticized in the past by numerous people for changing and inventing quotes. And just by looking at him should give most people the heebie jeebies. A more flattering pose might help, as it is he's a walking/sitting stereotype. --- http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=9458 So says Mr. Stewart. <cite>Hicks233 posted [p:893389698] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GhettoFlip posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote>This is liberal fan fiction. For full disclosure, written by this guy: </quote> No idea who that is and I'm decently well versed when it comes to journalists's faces. I'm confused as to why you'd think that picture would mean anything to CE</quote> That's the person who wrote this, and who has also been criticized in the past by numerous people for changing and inventing quotes. And just by looking at him should give most people the heebie jeebies.</quote> A more flattering pose might help, as it is he's a walking/sitting stereotype.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 01/04/18 9:13:05 PM #8:	Trump threatened to sue, so the publisher moved up the release date. The author says he has dozens of hours of tapes to back up the stories. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:893441238] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote>Trump threatened to sue, so the publisher moved up the release date. The author says he has dozens of hours of tapes to back up the stories.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 01/04/18 9:15:53 PM #9:	Michael Wolff is not a liberal, he wrote a biography of Murdoch. He is a fabulist, though --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:893441393] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote>Michael Wolff is not a liberal, he wrote a biography of Murdoch. He is a fabulist, though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 01/04/18 9:20:18 PM #10:	Capn Circus posted... That's the person who wrote this, and who has also been criticized in the past by numerous people for changing and inventing quotes. And just by looking at him should give most people the heebie jeebies. Really? By who? And why does this man's pic gives you the "heebie jeebies" but this guy's pic doesnt.. https://www.newamericanjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/roy-moore_gun.jpg --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:893441627] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote>That's the person who wrote this, and who has also been criticized in the past by numerous people for changing and inventing quotes. And just by looking at him should give most people the heebie jeebies.</quote> Really? By who? And why does this man's pic gives you the "heebie jeebies" but this guy's pic doesnt.. https://www.newamericanjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/roy-moore_gun.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 01/04/18 9:23:50 PM #11:	^lmao --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:893441817] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote>^lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
D-Lo_BrownTown 01/04/18 9:25:27 PM #12:	He didn't even want to win, and he still beat Hilldog lmfao --- https://i.imgtc.com/lYWecjF.jpg <cite>D-Lo_BrownTown posted [p:893441896] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote>He didn't even want to win, and he still beat Hilldog lmfao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 01/04/18 9:26:21 PM #13:	Bishop9800 posted... Really? By who? https://splinternews.com/remember-who-michael-wolff-is-1821749209?rev=1515018449957 Wolffs 1998 book about pursuing digital riches, Burn Rate, was met by largely positive reviews in the midst of the dot-com bubble. But longtime press critic Jack Shaferperhaps as close to a defender as Wolff hasalso wondered in his take for Slate whether Wolffs nitty-gritty details could be trusted: Wolff exploits the human tendency to confuse frankness and cruelty with truth-telling. And by repeatedly reminding the reader of what a dishonest, scheming little shit he is, he seeks to inflate his credibility. A real liar wouldnt tell you that hes a liar as Wolff does, would he? The wealth of verbatim quotationsconstituting a good third of this bookalso enhances Burn Rates verisimilitude. But should it? Wolff writes that he jotted down bits of dialogue on his legal pads during meetings while others composed to-do lists. Not to accuse anyone of Stephen Glassism, but Id love to see Wolff post those copious notes on his promotional Web site, www.burnrate.com. Michelle Cottle made similar observations in a 2004 profile for the New Republic, published when Wolff was a media writer at Vanity Fair, tut-tutting him as neither as insightful nor as entertaining when dissecting politics. She continued: Much to the annoyance of Wolffs critics, the scenes in his columns arent recreated so much as createdspringing from Wolffs imagination rather than from actual knowledge of events. Even Wolff acknowledges that conventional reporting isnt his bag. Rather, he absorbs the atmosphere and gossip swirling around him at cocktail parties, on the street, and especially during those long lunches at Michaels....His great gift is the appearance of intimate access, says an editor who has worked with Wolff. He is adroit at making the reader think that he has spent hours and days with his subject, when in fact he may have spent no time at all. Even the late David Carr, would-be reverend of the media class from his New York Times pulpit, wrote that Wolff has never distinguished himself as a reporter when reviewing his 2008 Murdoch biography, The Man Who Owns The News. Over the years, Carr wrote, he has succeeded in cutting through the clutter by being far less circumspectand sometimes more viciousthan other journalists, whom he views as archaic losers about to go the way of the Walkman. Factual errors be damned, Carr added with a begrudging thumbs-up, for Wolff prefers the purity of his constructs. That approach would seem to be even more dangerous with a book sold as an inside story of a White House that has proven atrocious at narrating its own story with any grasp of the truth. Since the selections of Wolffs book have dropped, administration officials trotted out the usual cries of false anecdotes and fake sourcesusually a good sign for those in search of the facts. But journalists have already started poking holes in some of the juicier aspects of Wolffs account. Just one example: a simple Google search proves Trump has previously spoken about Boehner at length, making the notion that he would respond Who? to a mention of the former House Speaker feel dubious at best. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:893441946] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote>Really? By who? </quote> https://splinternews.com/remember-who-michael-wolff-is-1821749209?rev=1515018449957 <quote>Wolffs 1998 book about pursuing digital riches, Burn Rate, was met by largely positive reviews in the midst of the dot-com bubble. But longtime press critic Jack Shaferperhaps as close to a defender as Wolff hasalso wondered in his take for Slate whether Wolffs nitty-gritty details could be trusted: Wolff exploits the human tendency to confuse frankness and cruelty with truth-telling. And by repeatedly reminding the reader of what a dishonest, scheming little shit he is, he seeks to inflate his credibility. A real liar wouldnt tell you that hes a liar as Wolff does, would he? The wealth of verbatim quotationsconstituting a good third of this bookalso enhances Burn Rates verisimilitude. But should it? Wolff writes that he jotted down bits of dialogue on his legal pads during meetings while others composed to-do lists. Not to accuse anyone of Stephen Glassism, but Id love to see Wolff post those copious notes on his promotional Web site, www.burnrate.com. Michelle Cottle made similar observations in a 2004 profile for the New Republic, published when Wolff was a media writer at Vanity Fair, tut-tutting him as neither as insightful nor as entertaining when dissecting politics. She continued: Much to the annoyance of Wolffs critics, the scenes in his columns arent recreated so much as createdspringing from Wolffs imagination rather than from actual knowledge of events. Even Wolff acknowledges that conventional reporting isnt his bag. Rather, he absorbs the atmosphere and gossip swirling around him at cocktail parties, on the street, and especially during those long lunches at Michaels....His great gift is the appearance of intimate access, says an editor who has worked with Wolff. He is adroit at making the reader think that he has spent hours and days with his subject, when in fact he may have spent no time at all. Even the late David Carr, would-be reverend of the media class from his New York Times pulpit, wrote that Wolff has never distinguished himself as a reporter when reviewing his 2008 Murdoch biography, The Man Who Owns The News. Over the years, Carr wrote, he has succeeded in cutting through the clutter by being far less circumspectand sometimes more viciousthan other journalists, whom he views as archaic losers about to go the way of the Walkman. Factual errors be damned, Carr added with a begrudging thumbs-up, for Wolff prefers the purity of his constructs. That approach would seem to be even more dangerous with a book sold as an inside story of a White House that has proven atrocious at narrating its own story with any grasp of the truth. Since the selections of Wolffs book have dropped, administration officials trotted out the usual cries of false anecdotes and fake sourcesusually a good sign for those in search of the facts. But journalists have already started poking holes in some of the juicier aspects of Wolffs account. Just one example: a simple Google search proves Trump has previously spoken about Boehner at length, making the notion that he would respond Who? to a mention of the former House Speaker feel dubious at best.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 01/04/18 9:31:43 PM #14:	>collided with Russia to win election >didnt want to win election Make up your mind liberals --- I don't know my gimmick <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:893442308] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote>>collided with Russia to win election >didnt want to win election Make up your mind liberals</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 01/04/18 9:36:34 PM #15:	Kazi1212 posted... >collided with Russia to win election If Trump had known about that, he would have blurted it out the very next night at a campaign rally "Folks, this is great. The President of Russia, Vladimir Putin, said to me, personally - we're good friends, me and Putin, we talk, he's a nice guy - he said that he is going to help me win this election by digging into Hillary Clinton. Isn't that great? Incredible." --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:893442572] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>>collided with Russia to win election </quote> If Trump had known about that, he would have blurted it out the very next night at a campaign rally "Folks, this is great. The President of Russia, Vladimir Putin, said to me, personally - we're good friends, me and Putin, we talk, he's a nice guy - he said that he is going to help me win this election by digging into Hillary Clinton. Isn't that great? Incredible."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 01/04/18 9:44:39 PM #16:	Thought his own face on election night said that he didnt want it. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:893443028] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote>Thought his own face on election night said that he didnt want it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 01/04/18 9:50:39 PM #17:	@Capn Circus posted... GhettoFlip posted... Capn Circus posted... This is liberal fan fiction. For full disclosure, written by this guy: No idea who that is and I'm decently well versed when it comes to journalists's faces. I'm confused as to why you'd think that picture would mean anything to CE That's the person who wrote this, and who has also been criticized in the past by numerous people for changing and inventing quotes. And just by looking at him should give most people the heebie jeebies. Those were all alternative facts, bro. He did nothing wrong and is absolutely trust worthy. I'm taking a page out of the trump supporters book and taking this man at his word. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:893443375] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GhettoFlip posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote>This is liberal fan fiction. For full disclosure, written by this guy: </quote> No idea who that is and I'm decently well versed when it comes to journalists's faces. I'm confused as to why you'd think that picture would mean anything to CE</quote> That's the person who wrote this, and who has also been criticized in the past by numerous people for changing and inventing quotes. And just by looking at him should give most people the heebie jeebies.</quote> Those were all alternative facts, bro. He did nothing wrong and is absolutely trust worthy. I'm taking a page out of the trump supporters book and taking this man at his word.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 01/04/18 10:10:07 PM #18:	Kazi1212 posted... >collided with Russia to win election >didnt want to win election Make up your mind liberals I think digging at Hillary and tearing her down with dirt he got from dubious sources wouldve been key in his TV network pursuits if he was aiming to be basically a Breitbart for TV. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:893444487] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>>collided with Russia to win election >didnt want to win election Make up your mind liberals</quote> I think digging at Hillary and tearing her down with dirt he got from dubious sources wouldve been key in his TV network pursuits if he was aiming to be basically a Breitbart for TV.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Autocraticus 01/04/18 10:33:37 PM #19:	Do people really believe all these stories? <cite>Autocraticus posted [p:893445814] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote>Do people really believe all these stories?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 01/04/18 10:35:21 PM #20:	Autocraticus posted... Do people really believe all these stories? I mean I probably shouldn't but they're also extremely mild compared to what we've witnessed ourselves. So really these stories don't seem to matter a whole lot anyways aside from more entertainment. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:893445922] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Autocraticus posted...</cite> <quote>Do people really believe all these stories?</quote> I mean I probably shouldn't but they're also extremely mild compared to what we've witnessed ourselves. So really these stories don't seem to matter a whole lot anyways aside from more entertainment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralZhao 01/04/18 10:37:38 PM #21:	Kazi1212 posted... >collided with Russia to win election >didnt want to win election Why is a person not capable of doing both? --- https://imgur.com/a/f52rH <cite>GeneralZhao posted [p:893446053] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>>collided with Russia to win election >didnt want to win election </quote> Why is a person not capable of doing both?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 01/04/18 10:38:55 PM #22:	Autocraticus posted... Do people really believe all these stories? People really believed Trump would be a good president. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:893446110] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Autocraticus posted...</cite> <quote>Do people really believe all these stories?</quote> People really believed Trump would be a good president.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 01/04/18 10:46:15 PM #23:	GeneralZhao posted... Kazi1212 posted... >collided with Russia to win election >didnt want to win election Why is a person not capable of doing both? You dont see how thats counterproductive? If you didnt want to win the election you wouldnt want help from anyone, let alone potentially break laws by working with a foreign adversary --- I don't know my gimmick <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:893446468] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralZhao posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>>collided with Russia to win election >didnt want to win election </quote> Why is a person not capable of doing both?</quote> You dont see how thats counterproductive? If you didnt want to win the election you wouldnt want help from anyone, let alone potentially break laws by working with a foreign adversary</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 01/04/18 10:49:32 PM #24:	Capn Circus posted... This is liberal fan fiction. For full disclosure, written by this guy: Not that far off. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:893446647] in Inside the... [t:76166379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote>This is liberal fan fiction. For full disclosure, written by this guy: </quote> Not that far off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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