Current Events > I think I'm going to quit my job without notice.

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I had posted this in a different topic, but I want opinions. So here;

I've been working at an ad firm for about four months now. I started as an intern, but they hired me as an editor after one month because of how well I was doing.

The pay was nothing as an intern, and slightly more as an editor (literally C$27,000 salary, or roughly C$14 an hour). However, when I was promoted, I suddenly was given an unreasonable amount of responsibility. I was put in charge of our offsite contractors that curate our sites. I was also put in charge of the publishing for three different sites, and the three interns. This was alright, but frustrating since my manager, who herself was an editor, spending all day shopping while I was drowning in work.

This became more frustrating because my manager initially told me I had two fifteen minute breaks and a lunch break. Then, a few weeks in, she took me aside to tell me I shouldn't be taking breaks because the boss kept seeing me and complaining to her. She also told me I was not allowed to leave work if there were more than three articles left to be published.

Again, would not be an unreasonable demand, if there weren't other issues. They give me 'salary'; which essentially means that they have set hours for me, but don't pay me overtime. Out of the last two weeks, I was half an hour late about 8/10 days.

Now, I was absolutely clear that I had to be trained and I didn't have any experience as an editor. Lately, they have been increasingly annoyed that I don't know how to do certain things. I am honest when I mess up or when I don't know something. The problem is my training was literally an hour on a Friday afternoon when my manager basically said "yeah, it's fine, I don't really want to go back to work now".

Over the past few days, my boss has been on an absolute warpath. He has been publicly swearing at me and demeaning me, including one instance where I literally did exactly what he said, and then he went berserk because he misspoke (it was literally on a chat messenger, so everyone could see he fucked up).

The tipping point for me was that Thursday night, at 11:30 at night, my boss started messaging me lecturing me about how he wants the site run. There was nothing specific I had done to merit it, he just wanted the site run differently. He constantly demands that we get numbers like NASDAQ sites. He wants 10x as many clicks on his articles as we get now, with an untrained editor and intern writers with zero writing experience.

So yeah, I can't go back there. It's been killing me to the point where I throw up every morning from stress. My body is aching all the time, and I can't stop suicidal thoughts. I hate to take a chance on not having an income, but it's sort of ridiculous at this point.

Quitting wouldn't be a bad idea, but rule #1 of quitting a job is never, ever do it without 2 weeks notice if you plan to list them as a reference (and actually I wouldn't unless you don't plan on putting it on your resume/CV at all).
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So you were given more responsibility and your pay didn't go up either. Well either work your ass off to show you are worth it or just put in your 2 weeks notice and go for the next thing. If you don't work your 2 weeks be prepared to explain why there is a 4 month gap in your career.
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Been there. I walked the fuck out. Was nervous at first but years later I realized was one of the wisest decisions I ever made.
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KronoCloud posted...

Been there. I walked the fuck out. Was nervous at first but years later I realized was one of the wisest decisions I ever made.

Me too. There are people who can truly make your life miserable. Sometimes it's just not worth it, for the sake of your sanity and well-being.

I've done it before where I didn't even have anything else lined up and had to live off credit for a while. Still worth it just to not hate basically every waking moment of my life.
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Dash_Harber posted...

So yeah, I can't go back there. It's been killing me to the point where I throw up every morning from stress. My body is aching all the time, and I can't stop suicidal thoughts.

Jesus relax dude. I'm in an academy right now

Get up at 6 get home at 8pm. Home work all night. Last week I didn't finish until 545am. Got up 15 minutes later.

We ran 4-5 miles 2 of them in a super deep incline yesterday morning. Followed by a 3 hour smoking of bear crawls, sprints etc.. inspection of all our gear and making sure our uniforms are perfect to every detail

Intense testing and classes for 10 hours a day. Constantly in your face screaming

And I don't even feel anything remotely close to you are feeling

Calm down
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bover_87 posted...

Quitting wouldn't be a bad idea, but rule #1 of quitting a job is never, ever do it without 2 weeks notice if you plan to list them as a reference (and actually I wouldn't unless you don't plan on putting it on your resume/CV at all).

I normally wouldn't. Like I said, I'm fine with more responsibility and working my way up. The problem is the insane expectations and the spectacularly bad moods of my boss. Swearing at me and demeaning me in front of my coworkers is unreasonable. As well, paying me minimum wage to do the manager's work (I handle the interns, the off-site co-ordinators, I'm supposed to run the story pitches, I do the timesheets, etc) is unreasonable in my books. I also don't appreciate being messaged in the middle of the night for no reason.

Jiggy101011 posted...

So you were given more responsibility and your pay didn't go up either. Well either work your ads off to show you are worth it or just put in your 2 weeks notice and go for the next thing. If you don't work your 2 weeks be prepared to explain why there is a 4 month gap in your career.

See above. It's the abuse and the unreasonable expectations that I have a problem with. I would gladly take the money and responsibility if they were reasonable. I actually have been working my ass off (I noted that I have stayed late 4/5 days pretty much for the past month and a half).

KronoCloud posted...

Been there. I walked the fuck out. Was nervous at first but years later I realized was one of the wisest decisions I ever made.

Yeah, I honestly only feel bad about leaving the interns and some of my coworkers behind. I really don't want to let them down, but this feels insane to me.

darkprince45 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

So yeah, I can't go back there. It's been killing me to the point where I throw up every morning from stress. My body is aching all the time, and I can't stop suicidal thoughts.

Jesus relax dude. I'm in an academy right now

Get up at 6 get home at 8pm. Home work all night. Last week I didn't finish until 545am. Got up 15 minutes later.

We ran 4-5 miles 2 of them in a super deep incline yesterday morning. Followed by a 3 hour smoking of bear crawls, sprints etc.. inspection of all our gear and making sure our uniforms are perfect to every detail

Intense testing and classes for 10 hours a day. Constantly in your face screaming

And I don't even feel anything remotely close to you are feeling

Calm down

First, it's not a matter of willpower. Second, we are two completely different people. Third, I imagine you actually want to be there, though. Fourth, yours is temporary and that is reassuring.

I quit my job as a life insurance agent without giving any kind of notice. It hadn't quite been a month and I made only 1 sale and it was completely based on commission for salary. Add on that my trainer wanted half of it because he assisted. My problem with that is I did about 80% of the work including filling out the application. When I emailed my resignation, I put in the email about that so the person who trained me would be watched closely. They had been there for a couple years so they have income coming in from renewals where as I hadn't had any income for about 2 weeks.

I don't regret the decision and while I was looking for a new job I didn't list it, but for the ones who asked about the gap I let them know it was a life insurance job and that it wasn't a good fit and they were understanding.
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Notice is courtesy but it's obviously not mandatory. Just bounce. They sound like dicks anyway.

The only problem would be that the new job would want to know how you left the last job. Quitting without notice is something no employer is OK with.
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That sounds pretty bad. I've seen stuff like bosses mismanaging people's workloads and getting annoyed that people didn't meet impossible expectations before, but swearing at and demeaning you, and in public is just unprofessional. No need to put up with that.

In fact that you'd probably get more professional treatment from McDonald's, and a pay not too far behind, just means the job is easily replaceable. You're not giving up anything great.

If you don't desperately need the reference and you have some savings just quit and look for something else. The whole point of a job ultimately is to enrich your life, and this one's not doing that, especially if its making you ill.

Can't you just explain to your boss how you feel? Like you could write it up and try to memorize all the points you want to make what bothers you. If he says you get fired what do you have to lose when you're going to quit anyway if things doesn't change?

Also, isn't there somewhere where you can tell if your boss keeps insulting or cursing at you? That's pretty much harassment and i think there's laws against shit like that.
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I think I remember you making a topic about how awful your job was awhile ago and how you were probably going to leave. Sounds like it's gotten even worse so I'm surprised you haven't already

Yeah do it, and flip them the bird on your way out
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The moment your boss starts cussing at you and demeaning you it is time to cuss him the fuck out right back. When he cusses at you and demeans you infront of co workers its time to tell him how much of a micro dick loser he is, that you will fuck his wife/girlfriend/sister and the day you walk the fuck out of that job while giving him the finger.

Any job that has a boss treat you like shit is no job to stay at.
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Don't do it till you have something else lined up. I'm in a similar place tc but I've been here before and you just gotta power through it for a while. Sometimes it even gets better. Though not often
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Sada_Pop posted...

Notice is courtesy but it's obviously not mandatory. Just bounce. They sound like dicks anyway.

The only problem would be that the new job would want to know how you left the last job. Quitting without notice is something no employer is OK with.

Yeah, I get that. I wouldn't bring it up, but I've thought about what I would say. Essentially, if they ask why I left I would say, "I don't want to say anything bad about any other people/company, so I'll just say that it was not a good fit for me and leave it at that".

Woodger posted...

That sounds pretty bad. I've seen stuff like bosses mismanaging people's workloads and getting annoyed that people didn't meet impossible expectations before, but swearing at and demeaning you, and in public is just unprofessional. No need to put up with that.

In fact that you'd probably get more professional treatment from McDonald's, and a pay not too far behind, just means the job is easily replaceable. You're not giving up anything great.

If you don't desperately need the reference and you have some savings just quit and look for something else. The whole point of a job ultimately is to enrich your life, and this one's not doing that, especially if its making you ill.

Yeah, the sad part is that I actually looked and I could make more money as a night janitor at McDonalds.

Sami1000 posted...

Can't you just explain to your boss how you feel? Like you could write it up and try to memorize all the points you want to make what bothers you. If he says you get fired what do you have to lose when you're going to quit anyway if things doesn't change?

The man is not the reasonable sort. Someone actually did that once to him, and he told him he better quit while he's ahead and that he doesn't like being told what to do.

Sami1000 posted...

Also, isn't there somewhere where you can tell if your boss keeps insulting or cursing at you? That's pretty much harassment and i think there's laws against shit like that.

Well, legally speaking, I probably couldn't beat him in any actual case or complaint, and I don't really want this to be dragged out and define my year.

Axiom posted...

I think I remember you making a topic about how awful your job was awhile ago and how you were probably going to leave. Sounds like it's gotten even worse so I'm surprised you haven't already

Yeah, I stuck it out to try and make the best of it. It ... it didn't work out quite that way.

Anyway, sent my resignation and simply said another opportunity had popped up so I had to quit immediately. I hope that's it.

REMercsChamp posted...

Yeah do it, and flip them the bird on your way out

I wish I could, but it's just not who I am.

Offworlder1 posted...

The moment your boss starts cussing at you and demeaning you it is time to cuss him the fuck out right back. When he cusses at you and demeans you infront of co workers its time to tell him how much of a micro dick loser he is, that you will fuck his wife/girlfriend/sister and the day you walk the fuck out of that job while giving him the finger.

Any job that has a boss treat you like shit is no job to stay at.

Yeah, again, I wish, but I'm much to calm and lame to do something fun like that.

CanuckCowboy posted...

Don't do it till you have something else lined up. I'm in a similar place tc but I've been here before and you just gotta power through it for a while. Sometimes it even gets better. Though not often

I saved up enough for two months rent and have been applying for a few weeks now. I'm nervous, but it can't be worse than this.

If you don't give a damn about the job, why not just go to the boss and demand more money? You have literally nothing to lose. Tell them you want $25/hr, if they say no, walk out.
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@CanuckCowboy

No just no, you mever stay in a job where your boss cusses at you, stresses you the fuck out, and demeans you infront of others.

Only a pussy ass bitch with no self respect stays in a shit hole like that.
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Offworlder1 posted...

@CanuckCowboy

No just no, you mever stay in a job where your boss cusses at you, stresses you the fuck out, and demeans you infront of others.

Only a pussy ass bitch with no self respect stays in a shit hole like that.

And what about people who don't want to end up homeless
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@Dash_Harber

You need to man the fuck up and have self respect for yourself, if you just take it up the ass they will keep fucking you cause they know you wont do shit.

Fast food and retail treats people better and apparently pays better, you need to walk the fuck out NOW.
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@CanuckCowboy

Its called finding another job, hell even fast food if you must to get out of an abusive job.

Anyone can stick it out like a little bitch, it takes a real man/woman to not get ass fucked look at them and smile.

Jobs that treat you like shit are never worth staying at, and theres so many other places to work you have got to be a spineless bitch to stay.
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Offworlder1 posted...

@CanuckCowboy

No just no, you mever stay in a job where your boss cusses at you, stresses you the fuck out, and demeans you infront of others.

Only a pussy ass bitch with no self respect stays in a shit hole like that.

The "pussy ass bitch with no self respect" option there is to run away from the situation. A man would stand up for himself.
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I said don't do it TILL YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE LINED UP. Not don't quit. Read.
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ScazarMeltex posted...

In most states the only thing a former employer can tell a prospective new one is hire date, departure date, and whether or not you are eligible to be rehired. If you have an individual person there you would like to use as a reference then I would just ask them personally if you can list them on the professional references portion of your resume.

This.

But you should try to get I red to get unemployment benefits.
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Conflict posted...

Offworlder1 posted...

@CanuckCowboy

No just no, you mever stay in a job where your boss cusses at you, stresses you the fuck out, and demeans you infront of others.

Only a pussy ass bitch with no self respect stays in a shit hole like that.

You have a very simple-minded view of the world

Also this.

You sound like you got an awful lot of growing up to do tbh.
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SK8T3R215 posted...

But you should try to get I red

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No I have something called self respect, there are tons of jobs out there that do not treat you like shit, the boss cussing at you, or demeaning you infront of co workers.

Workplace harassment and abuse is illegal in the US for a reason.

@Conflict
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Dude seriously learn some emotional control ffs. Only a total bitch let's assholes at work run their life like this.

Work is how you put food on the table it's not your life. You're letting it own you.
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I hope ur seriously joking, fast food and retail pay the lowest in terms of pay. Thats cuz they dont require any skill and even a 10 yr old can work at McDonalds.

At my last job people who quit or got fired went out in blazes of glory, and yes I have seen a co worker tell the boss they would fuck his wife on the way out.

The place was dirty as hell but there was no abuse of employees just lots of demands of hurry up go faster.
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PKKers posted...

10 yr old can work at McDonalds.

child labor happy meals pls
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Offworlder1 posted...

At my last job people who quit or got fired went out in blazes of glory, and yes I have seen a co worker tell the boss they would fuck his wife on the way out.

The place was dirty as hell but there was no abuse of employees just lots of demands of hurry up go faster.

So have I? And?

It's amusing to see but it's immature and unproductive as fuck
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I say walk in tomorrow and ask for a raise.

If they don't give you one, tell your boss that you're putting in your two weeks and have evidence that he has broken workplace harassment laws and regulations.
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The tc said he is getting paid $14/hr you can easily get a job in retail paying that.

Also the fastfood and retail gig would be short term until you can get a good paying job.
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Here's how you should've quit TC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeA00-OyMyU
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Get a shitty easy job asap to make your money that you've saved go further.

Also, you wussed out on your departure. The next time that you decide to leave a job at least tell them why you're leaving. You don't have to be a dick about it. It doesnt need to be some dramatic scene. Just tell your boss your issues like he's a person.
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Darkraiomb posted...

Here's how you should've quit TC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeA00-OyMyU

Haha, I actually thought about that. How weird is it that Angela was Carrie Fisher?

JustMyOpinion posted...

Imagine writing off TC admitting the job making him feel suicidal as just dealing with assholes and something everyone does. I'd think someone like you would have at least a little bit of sympathy.

Yeah, frankly, I'm not the most mentally healthy person to begin with, but the job was starting to affect my physical health, as well as my marriage.

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Get a shitty easy job asap to make your money that you've saved go further.

Also, you wussed out on your departure. The next time that you decide to leave a job at least tell them why you're leaving. You don't have to be a dick about it. It doesnt need to be some dramatic scene. Just tell your boss your issues like he's a person.

I'm not the first person. My manager literally told me before she went on holidays that the boss had a habit of making people cry when things went wrong. As I mentioned, he also has been told about his behavior before and told them to fuck off. I don't think it would have done anything to try and confront them about it. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's not my fight and I don't have anything to gain about this.

TC, I agree that your boss's behavior is really the straw. Do you have an HR department/compliance officer? Or a boss above your boss?

Dash_Harber posted...

As I mentioned, he also has been told about his behavior before and told them to fuck off.

Things are never going to get better in that place unless somebody does something to get that guy fired, and sadly a lot places aren't willing to fire someone in a management position unless their hand has been forced. The truth is, most companies care far more about their bottom line than their employees, and from the way you've described him, it sounds like he badgers his employees into doing more for less which is exactly what lots of boards of directors sitting in offices like.

Go sign up for a temp agency or 5, at least one of them will find something for you.
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The owner of the company I work for and have for last five years had a bad attitude and was disrespectful . Spoke up to him one day and he never spoke to me like that ever again. If anything improved how we worked together because of it.
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i left my job recently because of similar reasons. got promoted and things were expected from me that i was never told about or trained on. didn't get an increase in pay despite it being promised, and they just kept pissing me off: took away my computer, took away my desk, kept having me do random things and get mad when random thing #1 wasn't a priority over random thing # 5.

i quit giving 1 week notice (ie i quit at the beginning of the winter break) and im happier now.

no i dont have another job lined up, but being at that job was killing me and when i got home i didn't have energy to look for one. luckily i have some money saved up so i can survive for a while but now i have time to look for a better job.

this time ill follow my heart, and not my wallet. im willing to make sacrifices if i can be happy at the end of the day. i think its a great and sad fallacy that you're supposed to suffer though adulthood. people like that are going to die miserable not having lived their life.
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