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s0nicfan 01/09/18 4:50:54 PM #51:	yoloyoloswagEMP posted... s0nicfan posted... This would be a hell of a lot easier to resolve if the people who say SSB isn't a fighting game bothered to define what makes a fighting game. other way around the people claiming that it IS a fighting game should try defining the genre I was being generous, because in a debate the first person to define a term cements that definition for the remainder of the debate. The alternative is I (or someone else) presents what they think and you endlessly say "no, that's not right" because that definition would by its very nature include SSB. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:893725612] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>This would be a hell of a lot easier to resolve if the people who say SSB isn't a fighting game bothered to define what makes a fighting game.</quote> other way around the people claiming that it IS a fighting game should try defining the genre</quote> I was being generous, because in a debate the first person to define a term cements that definition for the remainder of the debate. The alternative is I (or someone else) presents what they think and you endlessly say "no, that's not right" because that definition would by its very nature include SSB.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 4:51:34 PM #52:	s0nicfan posted... yoloyoloswagEMP posted... s0nicfan posted... This would be a hell of a lot easier to resolve if the people who say SSB isn't a fighting game bothered to define what makes a fighting game. other way around the people claiming that it IS a fighting game should try defining the genre I was being generous, because in a debate the first person to define a term cements that definition for the remainder of the debate. The alternative is I (or someone else) presents what they think and you endlessly say "no, that's not right" because that definition would by its very nature include SSB. burden of proof lies on the person making a claim, not the opposition people claim Smash is a fighting game. tell us why <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893725653] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>This would be a hell of a lot easier to resolve if the people who say SSB isn't a fighting game bothered to define what makes a fighting game.</quote> other way around the people claiming that it IS a fighting game should try defining the genre</quote> I was being generous, because in a debate the first person to define a term cements that definition for the remainder of the debate. The alternative is I (or someone else) presents what they think and you endlessly say "no, that's not right" because that definition would by its very nature include SSB.</quote> burden of proof lies on the person making a claim, not the opposition people claim Smash is a fighting game. tell us why</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ushiromiya 01/09/18 4:51:38 PM #53:	It would be easiest if people just stopped caring one way or the other tho --- http://i.imgur.com/11wM01O.gif http://i.imgur.com/2IO7osX.png <cite>Ushiromiya posted [p:893725655] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote>It would be easiest if people just stopped caring one way or the other tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGrindery 01/09/18 4:52:06 PM #54:	Well Master Hand battle does feel like a beat em up boss kinda but that's it. If beating on a car doesn't stop SF from being one, you can't point to race to the finish or break the targets as proof. <cite>TheGrindery posted [p:893725682] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote>Well Master Hand battle does feel like a beat em up boss kinda but that's it. If beating on a car doesn't stop SF from being one, you can't point to race to the finish or break the targets as proof.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/09/18 4:54:22 PM #55:	yoloyoloswagEMP posted... burden of proof lies on the person making a claim, not the opposition people claim Smash is a fighting game. tell us why sighs fine. https://www.techopedia.com/definition/27154/fighting-game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_game#Definition Before I go any further, do you accept this definition of a fighting game? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:893725800] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote>burden of proof lies on the person making a claim, not the opposition people claim Smash is a fighting game. tell us why</quote> sighs fine. https://www.techopedia.com/definition/27154/fighting-game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_game#Definition Before I go any further, do you accept this definition of a fighting game?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 01/09/18 4:55:41 PM #56:	masticatingman posted... Idgaf how you wanna classify it, Melee is way more entertaining than any other fighting game that gets competition air time on Twitch. Tekken 7 is close but this. --- https://i.imgtc.com/usDFlRA.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/GSrk8Nh.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/yo9VSX9.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/BnnNepT.jpg https://tinyurl.com/Cornboard <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:893725869] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>masticatingman posted...</cite> <quote>Idgaf how you wanna classify it, Melee is way more entertaining than any other fighting game that gets competition air time on Twitch.</quote> Tekken 7 is close but this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 01/09/18 4:58:14 PM #57:	yoloyoloswagEMP posted... ZombiePelican posted... Didn't TC just make a topic bitching about gatekeeping? what Ushiromiya posted... s0nicfan posted... Well SOMEONE has to step up since MVC has half-abandoned their role as spectacle fighter and SFV is like watching paint dry. ASW bringing a 3v3, a 2v2, and a 1v1 should provide the level of hype that EVO is known for. Pick one team game, homie. I don't even know how real Crossover looks. And I don't know how deep dbz will be or what kind of legs it will have nah, multiple team games has happened on an EVO lineup more than a few times we used to have CvS2 and MvC2 every year It's unthinkable that Dbfz won't be at EVO. That game will draw in so many viewers and is being hyped to hell and back from all circles of the FGC. I don't really wanna see Cross Tag replace CF2 but I'll just juggle both regardless <cite>Reis posted [p:893726020] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote>Didn't TC just make a topic bitching about gatekeeping?</quote> what <cite>Ushiromiya posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Well SOMEONE has to step up since MVC has half-abandoned their role as spectacle fighter and SFV is like watching paint dry. ASW bringing a 3v3, a 2v2, and a 1v1 should provide the level of hype that EVO is known for.</quote> Pick one team game, homie. I don't even know how real Crossover looks. And I don't know how deep dbz will be or what kind of legs it will have</quote> nah, multiple team games has happened on an EVO lineup more than a few times we used to have CvS2 and MvC2 every year</quote> It's unthinkable that Dbfz won't be at EVO. That game will draw in so many viewers and is being hyped to hell and back from all circles of the FGC. I don't really wanna see Cross Tag replace CF2 but I'll just juggle both regardless</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 01/09/18 5:03:21 PM #58:	masticatingman posted... Idgaf how you wanna classify it, Melee is way more entertaining than any other fighting game that gets competition air time on Twitch. Melee sucks tho and was bested by the sequels. Only thing the sequels are missing from Melee is Pichu and Young Link. --- cuckle doodle dooo!!! <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:893726305] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>masticatingman posted...</cite> <quote>Idgaf how you wanna classify it, Melee is way more entertaining than any other fighting game that gets competition air time on Twitch.</quote> Melee sucks tho and was bested by the sequels. Only thing the sequels are missing from Melee is Pichu and Young Link.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:08:04 PM #59:	s0nicfan posted... yoloyoloswagEMP posted... burden of proof lies on the person making a claim, not the opposition people claim Smash is a fighting game. tell us why sighs fine. https://www.techopedia.com/definition/27154/fighting-game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_game#Definition Before I go any further, do you accept this definition of a fighting game? Both are vague enough to include quite a bit of games that clearly aren't fighting games. <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893726544] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote>burden of proof lies on the person making a claim, not the opposition people claim Smash is a fighting game. tell us why</quote> sighs fine. https://www.techopedia.com/definition/27154/fighting-game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_game#Definition Before I go any further, do you accept this definition of a fighting game?</quote> Both are vague enough to include quite a bit of games that clearly aren't fighting games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:08:37 PM #60:	TheGrindery posted... Well Master Hand battle does feel like a beat em up boss kinda but that's it. If beating on a car doesn't stop SF from being one, you can't point to race to the finish or break the targets as proof. I don't think anyone was doing that. <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893726572] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGrindery posted...</cite> <quote>Well Master Hand battle does feel like a beat em up boss kinda but that's it. If beating on a car doesn't stop SF from being one, you can't point to race to the finish or break the targets as proof.</quote> I don't think anyone was doing that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/09/18 5:09:16 PM #61:	yoloyoloswagEMP posted... s0nicfan posted... yoloyoloswagEMP posted... burden of proof lies on the person making a claim, not the opposition people claim Smash is a fighting game. tell us why sighs fine. https://www.techopedia.com/definition/27154/fighting-game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_game#Definition Before I go any further, do you accept this definition of a fighting game? Both are vague enough to include quite a bit of games that clearly aren't fighting games. Either accept it, or offer a counter-definition. That's how this works. Or, as I said before: s0nicfan posted... I was being generous, because in a debate the first person to define a term cements that definition for the remainder of the debate. The alternative is I (or someone else) presents what they think and you endlessly say "no, that's not right" because that definition would by its very nature include SSB. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:893726602] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote>burden of proof lies on the person making a claim, not the opposition people claim Smash is a fighting game. tell us why</quote> sighs fine. https://www.techopedia.com/definition/27154/fighting-game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_game#Definition Before I go any further, do you accept this definition of a fighting game?</quote> Both are vague enough to include quite a bit of games that clearly aren't fighting games.</quote> Either accept it, or offer a counter-definition. That's how this works. Or, as I said before: <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I was being generous, because in a debate the first person to define a term cements that definition for the remainder of the debate. The alternative is I (or someone else) presents what they think and you endlessly say "no, that's not right" because that definition would by its very nature include SSB. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:11:03 PM #62:	I don't think game genres should be classified by rigid definitions because the evolution of game mechanics often involves pushing boundaries of genre traditions. Smash attempts this, creating a new subgenre of action games as a result. It plays nothing like fighting games and its creators (Sakurai, Harada, etc) don't consider it one. <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893726686] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote>I don't think game genres should be classified by rigid definitions because the evolution of game mechanics often involves pushing boundaries of genre traditions. Smash attempts this, creating a new subgenre of action games as a result. It plays nothing like fighting games and its creators (Sakurai, Harada, etc) don't consider it one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:11:59 PM #63:	To any average gamer or layman, Smash Bros is considered a fighting game. To people that actually play fighting games, it's clear that it isn't a fighting game. <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893726731] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote>To any average gamer or layman, Smash Bros is considered a fighting game. To people that actually play fighting games, it's clear that it isn't a fighting game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/09/18 5:14:04 PM #64:	So just to confirm, you're NOT going to provide a counter-definition, therefore we're going with mine? Seriously, if you can't even agree to define the genre, attempting to classify something as IN or OUT is a waste of time. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:893726836] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote>So just to confirm, you're NOT going to provide a counter-definition, therefore we're going with mine? Seriously, if you can't even agree to define the genre, attempting to classify something as IN or OUT is a waste of time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:14:53 PM #65:	s0nicfan posted... So just to confirm, you're NOT going to provide a counter-definition, therefore we're going with mine? Seriously, if you can't even agree to define the genre, attempting to classify something as IN or OUT is a waste of time. It's like you're incapable of reading my responses or something Get out of here, troll <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893726873] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>So just to confirm, you're NOT going to provide a counter-definition, therefore we're going with mine? Seriously, if you can't even agree to define the genre, attempting to classify something as IN or OUT is a waste of time.</quote> It's like you're incapable of reading my responses or something Get out of here, troll</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:15:17 PM #66:	You don't even play fighters lmao <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893726894] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote>You don't even play fighters lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link HT 01/09/18 5:16:30 PM #67:	soulunison2 posted... masticatingman posted... Idgaf how you wanna classify it, Melee is way more entertaining than any other fighting game that gets competition air time on Twitch. Look at this pedantic child and laugh not how you use the word at all --- http://i.imgur.com/Tx1FX.jpg <cite>Link HT posted [p:893726956] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>soulunison2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>masticatingman posted...</cite> <quote>Idgaf how you wanna classify it, Melee is way more entertaining than any other fighting game that gets competition air time on Twitch.</quote> Look at this pedantic child and laugh</quote> not how you use the word at all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/09/18 5:17:25 PM #68:	yoloyoloswagEMP posted... s0nicfan posted... So just to confirm, you're NOT going to provide a counter-definition, therefore we're going with mine? Seriously, if you can't even agree to define the genre, attempting to classify something as IN or OUT is a waste of time. It's like you're incapable of reading my responses or something Get out of here, troll Your response is literally to say that "I don't think game genres should be classified by rigid definitions". Outside of some sort of structure, you can endlessly claim SSB isn't a fighting game "because reasons". You say "it plays nothing like fighting games" but refuse to say what fighting games play like. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:893727000] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>So just to confirm, you're NOT going to provide a counter-definition, therefore we're going with mine? Seriously, if you can't even agree to define the genre, attempting to classify something as IN or OUT is a waste of time.</quote> It's like you're incapable of reading my responses or something Get out of here, troll</quote> Your response is literally to say that "I don't think game genres should be classified by rigid definitions". Outside of some sort of structure, you can endlessly claim SSB isn't a fighting game "because reasons". You say "it plays nothing like fighting games" but refuse to say what fighting games play like.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:18:24 PM #69:	s0nicfan posted... yoloyoloswagEMP posted... s0nicfan posted... So just to confirm, you're NOT going to provide a counter-definition, therefore we're going with mine? Seriously, if you can't even agree to define the genre, attempting to classify something as IN or OUT is a waste of time. It's like you're incapable of reading my responses or something Get out of here, troll Your response is literally to say that "I don't think game genres should be classified by rigid definitions". Outside of some sort of structure, you can endlessly claim SSB isn't a fighting game "because reasons". what makes u think your more qualified on the subject than Harada exactly? you think your viewpoint matters more than his? <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893727051] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>So just to confirm, you're NOT going to provide a counter-definition, therefore we're going with mine? Seriously, if you can't even agree to define the genre, attempting to classify something as IN or OUT is a waste of time.</quote> It's like you're incapable of reading my responses or something Get out of here, troll</quote> Your response is literally to say that "I don't think game genres should be classified by rigid definitions". Outside of some sort of structure, you can endlessly claim SSB isn't a fighting game "because reasons".</quote> what makes u think your more qualified on the subject than Harada exactly? you think your viewpoint matters more than his?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 01/09/18 5:18:50 PM #70:	Rathalos888 posted... masticatingman posted... Idgaf how you wanna classify it, Melee is way more entertaining than any other fighting game that gets competition air time on Twitch. This, SF is the most boring shit in the world. I'd sooner watch Smash 4 than that, and that is a game made for toddlers. Get a load of these guys lol. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:893727073] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rathalos888 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>masticatingman posted...</cite> <quote>Idgaf how you wanna classify it, Melee is way more entertaining than any other fighting game that gets competition air time on Twitch.</quote> This, SF is the most boring shit in the world. I'd sooner watch Smash 4 than that, and that is a game made for toddlers.</quote> Get a load of these guys lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/09/18 5:19:20 PM #71:	yoloyoloswagEMP posted... what makes u think your more qualified on the subject than Harada exactly? you think your viewpoint matters more than his? https://twitter.com/harada_tekken/status/558105132819570692?lang=en It's great party game but also great Fighting Game for More than 2 players. RT@ctwtn Based Harada #SmashBros is a party game #EVO2015 Okay, glad we settled this then. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:893727101] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote>what makes u think your more qualified on the subject than Harada exactly? you think your viewpoint matters more than his?</quote> https://twitter.com/harada_tekken/status/558105132819570692?lang=en <quote>It's great party game but also great Fighting Game for More than 2 players. RT@ctwtn Based Harada #SmashBros is a party game #EVO2015</quote> Okay, glad we settled this then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:19:32 PM #72:	VipaGTS posted... Rathalos888 posted... masticatingman posted... Idgaf how you wanna classify it, Melee is way more entertaining than any other fighting game that gets competition air time on Twitch. This, SF is the most boring shit in the world. I'd sooner watch Smash 4 than that, and that is a game made for toddlers. Get a kid of these guys lol. I'd rather watch SFV than Smash and SFV is garbage lmao Can't believe people think competitive Smash is enjoyable for viewers <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893727110] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rathalos888 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>masticatingman posted...</cite> <quote>Idgaf how you wanna classify it, Melee is way more entertaining than any other fighting game that gets competition air time on Twitch.</quote> This, SF is the most boring shit in the world. I'd sooner watch Smash 4 than that, and that is a game made for toddlers.</quote> Get a kid of these guys lol.</quote> I'd rather watch SFV than Smash and SFV is garbage lmao Can't believe people think competitive Smash is enjoyable for viewers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:21:38 PM #73:	s0nicfan posted... yoloyoloswagEMP posted... what makes u think your more qualified on the subject than Harada exactly? you think your viewpoint matters more than his? https://twitter.com/harada_tekken/status/558105132819570692?lang=en It's great party game but also great Fighting Game for More than 2 players. RT@ctwtn Based Harada #SmashBros is a party game #EVO2015 Okay, glad we settled this then. lmao that's my twitter account @ctwtn Harada doing PR work for dem sales tho He's called it a party / casual game many times on record <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893727228] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote>what makes u think your more qualified on the subject than Harada exactly? you think your viewpoint matters more than his?</quote> https://twitter.com/harada_tekken/status/558105132819570692?lang=en <quote>It's great party game but also great Fighting Game for More than 2 players. RT@ctwtn Based Harada #SmashBros is a party game #EVO2015</quote> Okay, glad we settled this then.</quote> lmao that's my twitter account @ctwtn Harada doing PR work for dem sales tho He's called it a party / casual game many times on record</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 01/09/18 5:22:37 PM #74:	s0nicfan posted... https://twitter.com/harada_tekken/status/558105132819570692?lang=en Lmao the replies to this are why smash only players deserve the shit they get <cite>Reis posted [p:893727294] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> https://twitter.com/harada_tekken/status/558105132819570692?lang=en</quote> Lmao the replies to this are why smash only players deserve the shit they get</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/09/18 5:22:55 PM #75:	yoloyoloswagEMP posted... He's called it a party / casual game many times on record He just called it a fighting game. On record. We're done here, kiddo. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:893727309] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote>He's called it a party / casual game many times on record</quote> He just called it a fighting game. On record. We're done here, kiddo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:23:12 PM #76:	He wants to develop a fighting game containing characters from every fighting game franchise that was popular in the 80s and 90s "or maybe even toward the 2000s," he says. This wouldn't be a party game like Smash Bros., but a traditional fighting game with characters from Capcom, Sega, Koei Tecmo, SNK, Warner Bros, Data East, etc. https://www.polygon.com/a/life-in-japan/Harada-Summer-Lesson <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893727326] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><quote>He wants to develop a fighting game containing characters from every fighting game franchise that was popular in the 80s and 90s "or maybe even toward the 2000s," he says. This wouldn't be a party game like Smash Bros., but a traditional fighting game with characters from Capcom, Sega, Koei Tecmo, SNK, Warner Bros, Data East, etc.</quote> https://www.polygon.com/a/life-in-japan/Harada-Summer-Lesson</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:24:00 PM #77:	s0nicfan posted... yoloyoloswagEMP posted... He's called it a party / casual game many times on record He just called it a fighting game. On record. We're done here, kiddo. He called it a party game in the same breathe lmao Sakurai doesn't consider it a fighting game either <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893727360] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote>He's called it a party / casual game many times on record</quote> He just called it a fighting game. On record. We're done here, kiddo.</quote> He called it a party game in the same breathe lmao Sakurai doesn't consider it a fighting game either</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/09/18 5:25:07 PM #78:	yoloyoloswagEMP posted... s0nicfan posted... yoloyoloswagEMP posted... He's called it a party / casual game many times on record He just called it a fighting game. On record. We're done here, kiddo. He called it a party game in the same breathe lmao Sakurai doesn't consider it a fighting game either You're the one that said Harada is the expert here, not me. If you're going to discount my perspective because I'm not Harada, the person YOU brought up, then you're going to need to explain why he's wrong when he says it's a fighting game. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:893727429] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote>He's called it a party / casual game many times on record</quote> He just called it a fighting game. On record. We're done here, kiddo.</quote> He called it a party game in the same breathe lmao Sakurai doesn't consider it a fighting game either</quote> You're the one that said Harada is the expert here, not me. If you're going to discount my perspective because I'm not Harada, the person YOU brought up, then you're going to need to explain why he's wrong when he says it's a fighting game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:26:38 PM #79:	s0nicfan posted... yoloyoloswagEMP posted... s0nicfan posted... yoloyoloswagEMP posted... He's called it a party / casual game many times on record He just called it a fighting game. On record. We're done here, kiddo. He called it a party game in the same breathe lmao Sakurai doesn't consider it a fighting game either You're the one that said Harada is the expert here, not me. If you're going to discount my perspective because I'm not Harada, the person YOU brought up, then you're going to need to explain why he's wrong when he says he's a fighting game. It's a party game first, he makes that clear. Just like when FPS games use RPG systems, Smash borrows from fighting games. Mario is a shoto clone even lmao how are you this dense ignoring the other source where he straight up calls it a party game too LOL <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893727517] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote>He's called it a party / casual game many times on record</quote> He just called it a fighting game. On record. We're done here, kiddo.</quote> He called it a party game in the same breathe lmao Sakurai doesn't consider it a fighting game either</quote> You're the one that said Harada is the expert here, not me. If you're going to discount my perspective because I'm not Harada, the person YOU brought up, then you're going to need to explain why he's wrong when he says he's a fighting game.</quote> It's a party game first, he makes that clear. Just like when FPS games use RPG systems, Smash borrows from fighting games. Mario is a shoto clone even lmao how are you this dense ignoring the other source where he straight up calls it a party game too LOL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGrindery 01/09/18 5:26:57 PM #80:	"Wanna play a game with me?" "Sure. What do we do?" "Control a character each and physically fight until someone wins." <cite>TheGrindery posted [p:893727537] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote>"Wanna play a game with me?" "Sure. What do we do?" "Control a character each and physically fight until someone wins."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:27:16 PM #81:	TheGrindery posted... "Wanna play a game with me?" "Sure. What do we do?" "Control a character each and physically fight until someone wins." It's a king of the hill game. The goal is to be the last on the platform <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893727551] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGrindery posted...</cite> <quote>"Wanna play a game with me?" "Sure. What do we do?" "Control a character each and physically fight until someone wins."</quote> It's a king of the hill game. The goal is to be the last on the platform</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:27:38 PM #82:	Reis posted... s0nicfan posted... https://twitter.com/harada_tekken/status/558105132819570692?lang=en Lmao the replies to this are why smash only players deserve the shit they get this. People are so fucking disrespectful <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893727583] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reis posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> https://twitter.com/harada_tekken/status/558105132819570692?lang=en</quote> Lmao the replies to this are why smash only players deserve the shit they get</quote> this. People are so fucking disrespectful</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/09/18 5:28:22 PM #83:	yoloyoloswagEMP posted... It's a party game first, he makes that clear. Just like when FPS games use RPG systems, Smash borrows from fighting games. Mario is a shoto clone even lmao how are you this dense ignoring the other source where he straight up calls it a party game too LOL Well hold on. "It's a party game first" and "It's not a fighting game at all" are two totally different mutually exclusive sentences. If you're accepting that it's a FG by Harada's own words, but would rather debate whether it's a party game FIRST we can do that, but if you're still claiming it's not a FG at all then you're still going to have to prove him wrong. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:893727625] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote>It's a party game first, he makes that clear. Just like when FPS games use RPG systems, Smash borrows from fighting games. Mario is a shoto clone even lmao how are you this dense ignoring the other source where he straight up calls it a party game too LOL</quote> Well hold on. "It's a party game first" and "It's not a fighting game at all" are two totally different mutually exclusive sentences. If you're accepting that it's a FG by Harada's own words, but would rather debate whether it's a party game FIRST we can do that, but if you're still claiming it's not a FG at all then you're still going to have to prove him wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGrindery 01/09/18 5:28:52 PM #84:	yoloyoloswagEMP posted... TheGrindery posted... "Wanna play a game with me?" "Sure. What do we do?" "Control a character each and physically fight until someone wins." It's a king of the hill game. The goal is to be the last on the platform By fighting each other. Plus it can be set to HP. <cite>TheGrindery posted [p:893727664] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGrindery posted...</cite> <quote>"Wanna play a game with me?" "Sure. What do we do?" "Control a character each and physically fight until someone wins."</quote> It's a king of the hill game. The goal is to be the last on the platform</quote> By fighting each other. Plus it can be set to HP.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:29:43 PM #85:	s0nicfan posted... yoloyoloswagEMP posted... It's a party game first, he makes that clear. Just like when FPS games use RPG systems, Smash borrows from fighting games. Mario is a shoto clone even lmao how are you this dense ignoring the other source where he straight up calls it a party game too LOL Well hold on. "It's a party game first" and "It's not a fighting game at all" are two totally different mutually exclusive sentences. If you're accepting that it's a FG by Harada's own words, but would rather debate whether it's a party game FIRST we can do that, but if you're still claiming it's not a FG at all then you're still going to have to prove him wrong. It can be played like a fighting game under tournament rules. The core game clearly isn't a fighting game though. What makes it a fighting game in your eyes? Also, please tell me what fighting games you actually play and your mains. <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893727720] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote>It's a party game first, he makes that clear. Just like when FPS games use RPG systems, Smash borrows from fighting games. Mario is a shoto clone even lmao how are you this dense ignoring the other source where he straight up calls it a party game too LOL</quote> Well hold on. "It's a party game first" and "It's not a fighting game at all" are two totally different mutually exclusive sentences. If you're accepting that it's a FG by Harada's own words, but would rather debate whether it's a party game FIRST we can do that, but if you're still claiming it's not a FG at all then you're still going to have to prove him wrong.</quote> It can be played like a fighting game under tournament rules. The core game clearly isn't a fighting game though. What makes it a fighting game in your eyes? Also, please tell me what fighting games you actually play and your mains.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:30:08 PM #86:	TheGrindery posted... yoloyoloswagEMP posted... TheGrindery posted... "Wanna play a game with me?" "Sure. What do we do?" "Control a character each and physically fight until someone wins." It's a king of the hill game. The goal is to be the last on the platform By fighting each other. Plus it can be set to HP. So your logic here is that it can be played like a fighting game if you use certain settings? <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893727746] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGrindery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGrindery posted...</cite> <quote>"Wanna play a game with me?" "Sure. What do we do?" "Control a character each and physically fight until someone wins."</quote> It's a king of the hill game. The goal is to be the last on the platform</quote> By fighting each other. Plus it can be set to HP.</quote> So your logic here is that it can be played like a fighting game if you use certain settings?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/09/18 5:33:39 PM #87:	yoloyoloswagEMP posted... It can be played like a fighting game under tournament rules. The core game clearly isn't a fighting game though. What makes it a fighting game in your eyes? Also, please tell me what fighting games you actually play and your mains. SC: Taki SFIV: Cammy BB: Nu 13 GG: Ky MVC3: Zero, Ammy, Dormammu SSB: Kirby Only recently started playing Killer Instinct so not sure who'd I consider a main. EDIT: Before I go through the effort of actually defining what to me makes it a fighting game, which would ONCE AGAIN require defining a fighting game, are you done pointing to other people and claiming what I say doesn't matter because I'm not Harada or Sakurai? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:893727954] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote>It can be played like a fighting game under tournament rules. The core game clearly isn't a fighting game though. What makes it a fighting game in your eyes? Also, please tell me what fighting games you actually play and your mains.</quote> SC: Taki SFIV: Cammy BB: Nu 13 GG: Ky MVC3: Zero, Ammy, Dormammu SSB: Kirby Only recently started playing Killer Instinct so not sure who'd I consider a main. EDIT: Before I go through the effort of actually defining what to me makes it a fighting game, which would ONCE AGAIN require defining a fighting game, are you done pointing to other people and claiming what I say doesn't matter because I'm not Harada or Sakurai?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:34:36 PM #88:	gj ignoring my question about what makes Smash a fighting game lmao troll confirmed not gonna reply to you any further, get outta here <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893728006] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote>gj ignoring my question about what makes Smash a fighting game lmao troll confirmed not gonna reply to you any further, get outta here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/09/18 5:35:24 PM #89:	yoloyoloswagEMP posted... gj ignoring my question about what makes Smash a fighting game lmao troll confirmed not gonna reply to you any further, get outta here I'll give you a minute to read my edit, realize it was made before this post, and reconsider. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:893728057] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote>gj ignoring my question about what makes Smash a fighting game lmao troll confirmed not gonna reply to you any further, get outta here</quote> I'll give you a minute to read my edit, realize it was made before this post, and reconsider.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:36:06 PM #90:	Editing posts after I've replied? LOL obvious troll <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893728108] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote>Editing posts after I've replied? LOL obvious troll</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:36:13 PM #91:	I'm not reading shit <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893728115] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote>I'm not reading shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGrindery 01/09/18 5:38:25 PM #92:	yoloyoloswagEMP posted... TheGrindery posted... yoloyoloswagEMP posted... TheGrindery posted... "Wanna play a game with me?" "Sure. What do we do?" "Control a character each and physically fight until someone wins." It's a king of the hill game. The goal is to be the last on the platform By fighting each other. Plus it can be set to HP. So your logic here is that it can be played like a fighting game if you use certain settings? Powerstone has items and people racing for them and other fighters have ringouts. They're called fighting games. If they were called health bar depletion games, that'd be one thing. <cite>TheGrindery posted [p:893728261] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGrindery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGrindery posted...</cite> <quote>"Wanna play a game with me?" "Sure. What do we do?" "Control a character each and physically fight until someone wins."</quote> It's a king of the hill game. The goal is to be the last on the platform</quote> By fighting each other. Plus it can be set to HP.</quote> So your logic here is that it can be played like a fighting game if you use certain settings?</quote> Powerstone has items and people racing for them and other fighters have ringouts. They're called fighting games. If they were called health bar depletion games, that'd be one thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/09/18 5:38:30 PM #93:	Congrats. I've never had someone fail so spectacularly at making an argument. Not only did you fail to provide a definition of what makes a fighting game, AND claim my definition was too vague, you then followed it up by claiming its impossible to define the genre, AND THEN claimed Harada was proof it wasn't, forcing you to double-back when he himself said it WAS a fighting game. Literally everything you've said and done is like a textbook example for how to fuck up an argument. I'm actually impressed. I accept your resignation, though. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:893728267] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote>Congrats. I've never had someone fail so spectacularly at making an argument. Not only did you fail to provide a definition of what makes a fighting game, AND claim my definition was too vague, you then followed it up by claiming its impossible to define the genre, AND THEN claimed Harada was proof it wasn't, forcing you to double-back when he himself said it WAS a fighting game. Literally everything you've said and done is like a textbook example for how to fuck up an argument. I'm actually impressed. I accept your resignation, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:41:00 PM #94:	TheGrindery posted... yoloyoloswagEMP posted... TheGrindery posted... yoloyoloswagEMP posted... TheGrindery posted... "Wanna play a game with me?" "Sure. What do we do?" "Control a character each and physically fight until someone wins." It's a king of the hill game. The goal is to be the last on the platform By fighting each other. Plus it can be set to HP. So your logic here is that it can be played like a fighting game if you use certain settings? Powerstone has items and people racing for them and other fighters have ringouts. They're called fighting games. If they were called health bar depletion games, that'd be one thing. Many fighting games have items and ringouts. I didn't bring either of those up whatsoever. <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893728389] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGrindery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGrindery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGrindery posted...</cite> <quote>"Wanna play a game with me?" "Sure. What do we do?" "Control a character each and physically fight until someone wins."</quote> It's a king of the hill game. The goal is to be the last on the platform</quote> By fighting each other. Plus it can be set to HP.</quote> So your logic here is that it can be played like a fighting game if you use certain settings?</quote> Powerstone has items and people racing for them and other fighters have ringouts. They're called fighting games. If they were called health bar depletion games, that'd be one thing.</quote> Many fighting games have items and ringouts. I didn't bring either of those up whatsoever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:43:02 PM #95:	s0nicfan posted... Congrats. I've never had someone fail so spectacularly at making an argument. Not only did you fail to provide a definition of what makes a fighting game, AND claim my definition was too vague, you then followed it up by claiming its impossible to define the genre, AND THEN claimed Harada was proof it wasn't, forcing you to double-back when he himself said it WAS a fighting game. Literally everything you've said and done is like a textbook example for how to fuck up an argument. I'm actually impressed. I accept your resignation, though. There are fighting games that skirt definitions in all traditional senses by experimenting with game mechanics. Rigid definitions don't work well for the genre at all. You immediately ignored another source where Harada called it a party game flat out without saying it's a fighting game. Anyone that's even moderately adept at fighting games knows Smash doesn't belong to the genre. Smash players should embrace that fact rather than try to be included at the big boys table. <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893728524] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Congrats. I've never had someone fail so spectacularly at making an argument. Not only did you fail to provide a definition of what makes a fighting game, AND claim my definition was too vague, you then followed it up by claiming its impossible to define the genre, AND THEN claimed Harada was proof it wasn't, forcing you to double-back when he himself said it WAS a fighting game. Literally everything you've said and done is like a textbook example for how to fuck up an argument. I'm actually impressed. I accept your resignation, though.</quote> There are fighting games that skirt definitions in all traditional senses by experimenting with game mechanics. Rigid definitions don't work well for the genre at all. You immediately ignored another source where Harada called it a party game flat out without saying it's a fighting game. Anyone that's even moderately adept at fighting games knows Smash doesn't belong to the genre. Smash players should embrace that fact rather than try to be included at the big boys table.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGrindery 01/09/18 5:43:32 PM #96:	You act like being more than two player and the knocking off of the stage is what does it. <cite>TheGrindery posted [p:893728560] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote>You act like being more than two player and the knocking off of the stage is what does it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:47:11 PM #97:	TheGrindery posted... You act like being more than two player and the knocking off of the stage is what does it. Nah, not at all. There's plenty of fighting games with 2v2 for example. SFxT tournaments were often ran as team events. Ringouts are part of 3D fighters as well. <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893728818] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGrindery posted...</cite> <quote>You act like being more than two player and the knocking off of the stage is what does it.</quote> Nah, not at all. There's plenty of fighting games with 2v2 for example. SFxT tournaments were often ran as team events. Ringouts are part of 3D fighters as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGrindery 01/09/18 5:50:31 PM #98:	So why isn't it? Because you don't want it to be? Know what's definitely a fighting game? War Gods. <cite>TheGrindery posted [p:893729023] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote>So why isn't it? Because you don't want it to be? Know what's definitely a fighting game? War Gods.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoloyoloswagEMP 01/09/18 5:51:28 PM #99:	TheGrindery posted... So why isn't it? Because you don't want it to be? Know what's definitely a fighting game? War Gods. oh shit war gods is tight I was living in Thailand when it dropped and I got it before it was banned from sale in the country LOL <cite>yoloyoloswagEMP posted [p:893729072] in RIP Smash ... [t:76183341]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGrindery posted...</cite> <quote>So why isn't it? Because you don't want it to be? Know what's definitely a fighting game? War Gods.</quote> oh shit war gods is tight I was living in Thailand when it dropped and I got it before it was banned from sale in the country LOL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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