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Mr Lasastryke
01/17/18 8:22:48 AM
#454:


EndOfDiscOne posted...
Guy on HLN just said that Trump has heart disease?


how is that possible when god made him so perfect
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The Mana Sword
01/17/18 8:27:03 AM
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I think his cholesterol was at a level that put him at moderate risk for a heart attack in the next ~5 years or something?
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Peace___Frog
01/17/18 9:29:17 AM
#456:


Well I simply cannot believe that this administration tried to lie about Wolff!

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/953610759975718915

Michael Wolffs entree into the WH began with Trump himself, who phoned the author in February to compliment him for blasting the media during a CNN appearance.

Aides Kellyanne Conway and Hope Hicks met with Wolff the next day.

https://t.co/heeGYwXsB0

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Jakyl25
01/17/18 9:30:35 AM
#457:


He takes Crestor to manage his cholesterol. That was in the doctor report. I suppose that could be what they meant?
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psaltery
01/17/18 9:31:51 AM
#458:


North, South Korea to March Under United Flag in Winter Olympics

North and South Korea will form a joint women's ice hockey team to compete in the upcoming winter Olympic games and will march under a united flag during the opening ceremony, the two countries announced Wednesday.

https://www.voanews.com/a/north-south-korea-to-march-under-united-flag-at-olympics/4211552.html
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MoogleKupo141
01/17/18 10:19:06 AM
#459:


Get over it. More importantly, the vast majority of people (see also: not regressive leftists) agree with this.


the vast majority of people used to be against gay marriage too. Eventually you'll catch up to us "regressives" on this subject as well.
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Dancedreamer
01/17/18 10:22:05 AM
#460:


It's weird how some people will go out of their way to belittle transgender people. Especially when they have little to no impact on their own lives. Then again, they did the same thing with same sex marriage. They'll bring up pedophilia--but we all saw how much that counts for anything when they supported Roy Moore.
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charmander6000
01/17/18 10:42:45 AM
#461:


psaltery posted...
North, South Korea to March Under United Flag in Winter Olympics

North and South Korea will form a joint women's ice hockey team to compete in the upcoming winter Olympic games and will march under a united flag during the opening ceremony, the two countries announced Wednesday.

https://www.voanews.com/a/north-south-korea-to-march-under-united-flag-at-olympics/4211552.html


It's not confirmed that a joint ice hockey team will be used (still needs IOC and IIHF approval). I disagree with the move from a sports perspective. Adding 15 more players will affect the South Koreans along adding more unneeded pressure to the team from the media. It is also unfair to other teams, even if South Korea is expected to get crushed by all the other teams competing. There is also the logistics of fitting 35 players on a 22 player bench...
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Forceful_Dragon
01/17/18 10:55:03 AM
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I feel like those considerations take back seat towards north and south korea playing nice in an official capacity like that. Id be pleased if it happened.
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Terastodon
01/17/18 10:56:04 AM
#463:


charmander6000 posted...
There is also the logistics of fitting 35 players on a 22 player bench...

lolwut?

If the squad size is 22 players, they will have a combined 22 players from both nations. If this goes ahead, it will cost South Korean players their Olympic places.
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charmander6000
01/17/18 10:59:37 AM
#464:


Terastodon posted...
charmander6000 posted...
There is also the logistics of fitting 35 players on a 22 player bench...

lolwut?

If the squad size is 22 players, they will have a combined 22 players from both nations. If this goes ahead, it will cost South Korean players their Olympic places.


Nope the idea is to have 35 players so no South Koreans will be cut from the team.

https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1060242/switzerland-raise-concerns-about-pan-korean-ice-hockey-team-at-pyeongchang-2018

The idea of an enlarged squad consisting of up to 35 players from both North and South Korea was proposed last week as part of talks between the two countries. All other countries would have a roster of 22 players to choose from, but the 35 total was mooted in order to avoid any South Korean players missing out.
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Terastodon
01/17/18 11:02:44 AM
#465:


There is a 0% chance the IOC signs off on that.
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charmander6000
01/17/18 11:07:30 AM
#466:


I hope so, but I feel they will push this in order to score points in sport diplomacy.

Though I have no issue with giving North Korea individual spots they didn't qualify to go with their figure skater pair that they failed to register on time.
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Terastodon
01/17/18 11:12:53 AM
#467:


Yeah, basically, I'm okay with waiving deadlines, but any NK players would still need to show evidence they have reached any qualification requirements as any other player would be required to meet. Additionally I would insist that all teams/individuals have the same sporting laws applied on the day of the competition, which would cover squad size, coaching, equipment whatever.
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TheRock1525
01/17/18 11:25:25 AM
#468:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
Get over it. More importantly, the vast majority of people (see also: not regressive leftists) agree with this.


the vast majority of people used to be against gay marriage too. Eventually you'll catch up to us "regressives" on this subject as well.


I'm not sure if this is still talking about transgender people, but polling shows:

- most Americans have favorable views of transgender people.
- most Americans believe they should be able to serve in the military.
- most Americans believe they should be allowed to use the bathroom of their current gender, not biological sex.
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Peace___Frog
01/17/18 11:47:49 AM
#469:


Ulti reads the YouTube comment section to figure out what "most people" think. Don't read too much into it.
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Peace___Frog
01/17/18 2:05:33 PM
#470:


https://twitter.com/benwikler/status/953346522543947781

BREAKING: New poll of 12 Senate battleground states Trump, GOP will pay price in case of government shutdown. Public wants protections for Dreamers in funding bill (81%); rejects wall (57%). GOP playing with fire. 1/ https://t.co/8VRrqyqvOu


The study was done over telephone from Jan 7 - 9, with 52% of respondents reporting to have voted for Trump. The states are Florida, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, north Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, west Virginia, and Wisconsin. So if anything, it's skewed to the right of the overall nation.

The Republican party leadership needs to go.
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My Immortal
01/17/18 4:04:18 PM
#471:


81% with a right skew is huge if this is an accurate poll.
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ExThaNemesis
01/17/18 5:41:04 PM
#472:


TheRock1525 posted...
You know what Fox News is blaming the #metoo movement for? The Destruction of Men.

CARLSON: Where do you think this is going and the #MeToo movement at this point?

MAC DONALD: Well, its going toward the disappearing of men. Were going to see a wave of new gender quotas throughout the economy on the assumption that if we dont already have proportional representation of men and women across workplaces in science and computing and entertaining its because of gender patriarchies and harassment which is simply not the case.

What were seeing really, Tucker, is sexual liberation having a nervous breakdown. Before sexual liberation hit, in the 1950s, you had a set of traditional norms that recognized this basic truth: men and women are different. Its not social construction. Men and women have different biological drives. Their libidos are different and we had a set of norms that restrained the male libido, norms of gentlemanliness and courtesy and chivalry and we had a default for premarital sex for females that was No. And that gave females the power to say yes but they didnt have to negotiate with the male libido at every instance of some drunken coupling. Sexual liberation threw that all out and said, Men and women should go mano a mano on the sexual battlefield. Theyre equal in their desires, equal in their responses to casual sex.

And it turns out, when you set the default at yes for premarital sex, a lot of women have a hard time negotiating a no. And instead of recognizing that weve sort of screwed up the default settings and are working against biology. Women are blaming the patriarchy when the opposite is the case.

CARLSON: Whatever its effects, it has not made women happier the last 50 years. I mean, theres been a longitudinal study on this and American women have not become happier.

I wonder, if you destroy men or complete the destruction of men theyre pretty close to being destroyed, I would say. How does that help women, exactly? What will be the effect on women?

MAC DONALD: I think youre going to see a lot of regrets - Why arent men courting me? And, basically, civilization has been created by people with very powerful egos. It is of no relevance to me whether they were male or females. I want a meritocracy. I want people with drive to succeed. And if you have a rule that says powerful men should be out of the picture, I think we are going to reach a civilizational stasis.

CARLSON: Yeah, I mean, this has profound consequences. I dont fully understand all of em but I can smell it. This is a big deal. Heather, thank you for shedding some light on that.


Damn you premarital sex, you've destroyed men!


Damn, I'm kind of amazed to see red pill talking points pulled straight from Roissy's blog like 6 years ago being put on a mainstream television show. Go figure though they still need to have a woman say it smh
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ExThaNemesis
01/17/18 5:44:45 PM
#473:


Espeon posted...
My post was not Aziz is just as vile as Kevin Spacey. It was if you feel violated by a famous person, its not necessarily spite that might cause you to speak out when that famous person is lavished with praise. I used Spacey as an example because the victims are male and thus the people Im arguing with are more likely to give a shit.


Nah, it's definitely spite, and sadistic spite at that considering the matter had already been handled and Ansari had apologized to her.

What other goddamn pennance does she need at that point aside from fucking with his career years later?

The more I think about it the angrier I get.
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Inviso
01/17/18 5:54:50 PM
#474:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Espeon posted...
My post was not Aziz is just as vile as Kevin Spacey. It was if you feel violated by a famous person, its not necessarily spite that might cause you to speak out when that famous person is lavished with praise. I used Spacey as an example because the victims are male and thus the people Im arguing with are more likely to give a shit.


Nah, it's definitely spite, and sadistic spite at that considering the matter had already been handled and Ansari had apologized to her.

What other goddamn pennance does she need at that point aside from fucking with his career years later?

The more I think about it the angrier I get.


If it's years later though, you're automatically assuming the worst about HER, believing her to be some spiteful psychopath that would dredge up this event purely to spite him.
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Mr Lasastryke
01/17/18 5:57:56 PM
#475:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Nah, it's definitely spite, and sadistic spite at that considering the matter had already been handled and Ansari had apologized to her.


she can't attack him because he apologized?
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TheRock1525
01/17/18 6:12:56 PM
#476:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Damn, I'm kind of amazed to see red pill talking points pulled straight from Roissy's blog like 6 years ago being put on a mainstream television show. Go figure though they still need to have a woman say it smh


Redpills are against premarital sex?
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Eddv
01/17/18 6:19:59 PM
#477:


Why are we still talking about this subpar comedians dick.
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ExThaNemesis
01/17/18 6:24:13 PM
#478:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
she can't attack him because he apologized?


Why would she attack him if he apologized and the matter was settled?

There is no reason you can give me aside from spite.

That's how apologies work, you forgive and move on. If she didn't forgive him or didn't believe he was genuine, then don't let the issue drop for years until you feel like messing with his career.
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ExThaNemesis
01/17/18 6:25:48 PM
#479:


TheRock1525 posted...
Redpills are against premarital sex?


Oi, I forget sometimes how clueless you people are. I don't really have time for an education, but pick up and all that recognizes that women's sexual liberation is a horrible thing for society but they are just reacting and adapting to the social climate around them by teaching dudes the best ways to get the premarital sex that is being given away cheaper and cheaper every day.
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Nelson_Mandela
01/17/18 6:26:57 PM
#480:


https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/953749776209797120

Basically everyone involved in this story is a bitter loon
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Jakyl25
01/17/18 6:26:59 PM
#481:


TheRock1525 posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
Damn, I'm kind of amazed to see red pill talking points pulled straight from Roissy's blog like 6 years ago being put on a mainstream television show. Go figure though they still need to have a woman say it smh


Redpills are against premarital sex?


The ones that moved farther into the alt right are.
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Jakyl25
01/17/18 6:28:25 PM
#482:


ExThaNemesis posted...
I don't really have time for an education

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Mr Lasastryke
01/17/18 6:28:50 PM
#483:


ExThaNemesis posted...
If she didn't forgive him or didn't believe he was genuine, then don't let the issue drop for years until you feel like messing with his career.


you're assuming the worst of her, like inviso said.

you realize that it often takes years for sexual assault victims to speak out for a wide variety of reasons (shame, suppression of trauma), right? the fact that you think the only reason can be spite is pretty shitty and completely lacking in empathy.
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Nelson_Mandela
01/17/18 6:31:33 PM
#484:


Nah, anyone who has had real human interactions can see through this bullshit. This girl has a clear victim complex and this is her vengeance. What a pathetic person.
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Inviso
01/17/18 6:32:19 PM
#485:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Nah, anyone who has had real human interactions can see through this bullshit. This girl has a clear victim complex and this is her vengeance. What a pathetic person.


You could literally say this about ANY anti-feminist post ever made on this board.
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Jakyl25
01/17/18 6:32:20 PM
#486:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/953749776209797120

Basically everyone involved in this story is a bitter loon


Yeah I dont think anyone is in favor of how Babe as an outlet is handling this.

Even Jezebel wrote an article shitting all over how the womans account was handled
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scarletspeed7
01/17/18 6:32:25 PM
#487:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Nah, anyone who has had real human interactions can see through this bullshit. This girl has a clear victim complex and this is her vengeance. What a pathetic person.

How dare you discriminate against Vlado like that!
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ExThaNemesis
01/17/18 6:33:06 PM
#488:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/953749776209797120

Basically everyone involved in this story is a bitter loon


LMAO

"I'll remember this for the rest of my career!"

LMAO

LMAO

I CAN'T

oh jesus christ, we have given people like this a platform. We have strayed so far from god's path
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scarletspeed7
01/17/18 6:33:19 PM
#489:


Jakyl25 posted...
Yeah I dont think anyone is in favor of how Babe as an outlet is handling this.

I've been complaining about Babe for years. Completely overrated. No idea how it got a Best Picture nomination.
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ExThaNemesis
01/17/18 6:34:19 PM
#490:


Mr Lasastryke posted...

you're assuming the worst of her, like inviso said.

you realize that it often takes years for sexual assault victims to speak out for a wide variety of reasons (shame, suppression of trauma), right? the fact that you think the only reason can be spite is pretty shitty and completely lacking in empathy.


That would be all well and good if we were actually talking about a victim of sexual assault instead of Woman Who Regretted A Sexual Interaction.
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Jakyl25
01/17/18 6:35:03 PM
#491:


ExThaNemesis posted...
we have given people like this a platform.


Didnt you support Trump? Its exactly how he acts
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Mr Lasastryke
01/17/18 6:36:52 PM
#492:


ExThaNemesis posted...
That would be all well and good if we were actually talking about a victim of sexual assault instead of Woman Who Regretted A Sexual Interaction.


once again you're assuming the worst about her.
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ExThaNemesis
01/17/18 6:37:07 PM
#493:


Jakyl25 posted...
Didnt you support Trump? Its exactly how he acts


I supported Trump because it made you mad. That's all.

It'd be one thing if you were purposely giving her a platform because you knew it upsets me, but you're giving her one because you think she has things that are worthwhile to say. She doesn't, and she's a terrible writer as well.
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ExThaNemesis
01/17/18 6:37:32 PM
#494:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
once again you're assuming the worst about her.


I'm not fucking assuming anything, I am going off her literal account of the interaction FFS.
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scarletspeed7
01/17/18 6:37:54 PM
#495:


ExThaNemesis posted...
I supported Trump because it made you mad. That's all.

Oh, that's why I cheer for John Cena now. >_>
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Inviso
01/17/18 6:38:30 PM
#496:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Didnt you support Trump? Its exactly how he acts


I supported Trump because it made you mad. That's all.

It'd be one thing if you were purposely giving her a platform because you knew it upsets me, but you're giving her one because you think she has things that are worthwhile to say. She doesn't, and she's a terrible writer as well.


That's...not better. At all.
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Jakyl25
01/17/18 6:39:24 PM
#497:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Didnt you support Trump? Its exactly how he acts


I supported Trump because it made you mad. That's all.

It'd be one thing if you were purposely giving her a platform because you knew it upsets me.


I mean, at this point...
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scarletspeed7
01/17/18 6:40:20 PM
#498:


I'm impressed Jakyl has such an impact on someone's voting habits.
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ExThaNemesis
01/17/18 6:40:36 PM
#499:


Jakyl25 posted...
I mean, at this point...


It would be something I'd actually respect tbh
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ExThaNemesis
01/17/18 6:40:45 PM
#500:


Undertale sucks
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