Current Events > Are there any military units/special forces better than the Delta Force or SAS?

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Rika_Furude
01/12/18 5:31:46 AM
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"i'm not sure why x, because apple"

yeah, you're definitely trying too hard and yet falling short
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chi_cab
01/12/18 5:32:09 AM
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even barring that, it's specifically talking about special forces training
which apparently doesn't factor into the logic
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iClockwork
01/12/18 5:34:42 AM
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JE19426 posted...
iClockwork posted...
No in this instance X (China military) has been around longer than Y (U.S.A military) ans we know that Y > X.


The Chinese military hasn't been around longer the US military. The Chinese military was created in the 1920s at the earliest, while the US military was created in 1784.

Alright we'll substitute Portugal's military for China's and reach the same conclusion.

Rika_Furude posted...
"i'm not sure why x, because apple"

yeah, you're definitely trying too hard and yet falling short

Except that isn't at all what happened in that analogy. Keep proving why AUS had such a hard time fending off birds though.

chi_cab posted...
even barring that, it's specifically talking about special forces training

Nobody has mentioned training we're talking about the capability of the force as a whole. Time of foundation doesn't equate to superiority.
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JE19426
01/12/18 5:36:45 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Alright we'll substitute Portugal's military for China's and reach the same conclusion.


That's a better comparison.
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Rika_Furude
01/12/18 5:38:46 AM
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All your saying is "im not sure", you dont seem to know a lot do you
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iClockwork
01/12/18 5:39:33 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
All your saying is "im not sure", you dont seem to know a lot do you

I've already said Delta Force > SAS and provided the reasons why.
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Rika_Furude
01/12/18 5:39:57 AM
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Not really
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ModLogic
01/12/18 5:41:31 AM
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iClockwork
01/12/18 5:41:41 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Not really

Yup you can reread the first page and find the answers there.
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Rika_Furude
01/12/18 5:44:29 AM
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All you really posted was a bad comparison and your opinion, and that you dont know
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iClockwork
01/12/18 5:55:27 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
All you really posted was a bad comparison and your opinion, and that you dont know

I posted a valid analogy, and factual accounts of SAS members who were too ill equipt to handle a joint operation with the DF and that I do know
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Rika_Furude
01/12/18 5:57:26 AM
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JE19426
01/12/18 5:58:57 AM
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iClockwork posted...
factual accounts of SAS members who were too ill equipt to handle a joint operation with the DF and that I do know


No you didn't. You claimed they exist. You didn't post them.
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iClockwork
01/12/18 6:01:14 AM
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JE19426 posted...
iClockwork posted...
factual accounts of SAS members who were too ill equipt to handle a joint operation with the DF and that I do know


No you didn't. You claimed they exist. You didn't post them.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2016/10/overly-cautious-british-sas-soldiers-are-being-left-behind-by-their-american-counterparts/

SAS is plagued by politics and cannot functionally operate.
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Rika_Furude
01/12/18 6:01:27 AM
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JE19426
01/12/18 6:03:36 AM
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iClockwork posted...
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2016/10/overly-cautious-british-sas-soldiers-are-being-left-behind-by-their-american-counterparts/

SAS is plagued by politics and cannot functionally operate.


That doesn't say they were to ill-equiped
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iClockwork
01/12/18 6:05:44 AM
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JE19426 posted...
iClockwork posted...
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2016/10/overly-cautious-british-sas-soldiers-are-being-left-behind-by-their-american-counterparts/

SAS is plagued by politics and cannot functionally operate.


That doesn't say they were to ill-equiped

If you are refusing to operate due to political restrictions then yes you ill-equipped to handle the task put forth. You can't claim to be the most effective special forces unit in the world if bureaucracies surrounding you impede on your missions.
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JE19426
01/12/18 6:08:02 AM
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iClockwork posted...
If you are refusing to operate due to political restrictions then yes you are ill equipt to handle the task put forth.


It doesn't say they are refusing to do so for political restrictions. It also uses The Sun as a source which is laughable.
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iClockwork
01/12/18 6:14:10 AM
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JE19426 posted...
It doesn't say they are refusing to do so for political restrictions.

British SAS Soldiers Now Missing Missions With U.S. Delta Forces In Fear Of Bureaucratic Retribution

If you are scared of retribution by seniority then there is a political motivation somewhere to keep these missions from being acted upon due to discovery or ethical reasons. That would put a restriction on your effectiveness.
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JE19426
01/12/18 6:16:30 AM
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iClockwork posted...
British SAS Soldiers Now Missing Missions With U.S. Delta Forces In Fear Of Bureaucratic Retribution

If you are scared of retribution by seniority then there is a political motivation somewhere to keep these missions from being acted upon due to discovery or ethical reasons. That would put a restriction on your effectiveness.


I'm glad you can admit when you are wrong.
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Rika_Furude
01/12/18 6:17:56 AM
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reminder that delta force was formed because america felt vulnerable due to the existence of sas
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iClockwork
01/12/18 6:19:47 AM
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JE19426 posted...
iClockwork posted...
British SAS Soldiers Now Missing Missions With U.S. Delta Forces In Fear Of Bureaucratic Retribution

If you are scared of retribution by seniority then there is a political motivation somewhere to keep these missions from being acted upon due to discovery or ethical reasons. That would put a restriction on your effectiveness.


I'm glad you can admit when you are wrong.

Political restrictions in the form of bureaucratic retribution is why they are refusing to partake.
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iClockwork
01/12/18 6:20:18 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
reminder that delta force was formed because america felt vulnerable due to the existence of sas

And now we're better and the pinnacle of special forces.
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JE19426
01/12/18 6:20:36 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Political restrictions in the form of bureaucratic retribution is why they are refusing to partake.


They didn't refuse. Nothing in your article says they did so, and your articles source says otherwise.
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iClockwork
01/12/18 6:21:46 AM
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JE19426 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Political restrictions in the form of bureaucratic retribution is why they are refusing to partake.


They didn't refuse. Nothing in your article says they did so, and your articles source says otherwise.

They are in fear of partaking and don;t which means they make the choice not to. Refuse.
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JE19426
01/12/18 6:33:37 AM
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iClockwork posted...
They are in fear of partaking and don;t which means they make the choice not to.


No it doesn't.
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pres_madagascar
01/12/18 6:36:27 AM
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Its heavily rumored that delta is not strictly American but in fact a mixture of the best of the best from the special forces of multiple countries, including usa, britain, germany, australia, france, etc.. and that they operate in disavowed missions with no insignia or names.
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iClockwork
01/12/18 6:38:25 AM
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JE19426 posted...
iClockwork posted...
They are in fear of partaking and don;t which means they make the choice not to.


No it doesn't.

How do you interpret the headline and article?
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Foppe
01/12/18 6:40:11 AM
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The Canadian Joint Task Force 2 is better than both SAS and Delta Force.
As for great ones that you rarely hear about, the Swedish SOG kicks ass.
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JE19426
01/12/18 6:42:31 AM
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iClockwork posted...
How do you interpret the headline and article?


I interpreted it as click bait designed to feel strong emotions and curiosity but no actual explanation. This is because they say the SAS isn't going on missions with Delta Force, but don't give a real describtion of what happens when they get told to do so.
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iClockwork
01/12/18 6:45:13 AM
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Its says in the headline, bureaucratic retribution. Why would they face this type of retribution?
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JE19426
01/12/18 6:49:49 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Its says in the headline, bureaucratic retribution.


I'm not sure why you feel that's relevant to my post.

Why would they face this type of retribution?


Maybe you should read the article and find out.
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