Poll of the Day > Racist' and 'Shameful': How other countries are responding to Trump's slur.

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https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/01/12/577599691/racist-and-shameful-how-other-countries-are-responding-to-trumps-slur

Updated at 12:45 p.m. ET

One day after President Trump referred to African nations as "shithole countries," adding that the U.S. should want immigrants from countries such as Norway rather than from Haiti or El Salvador, the countries that came in for the president's criticism are offering some responses of their own.

"We are surprised, disappointed. Also, we want to condemn if those statements were made," Paul Altidor, the Haitian ambassador to the U.S., told NPR on Friday.

He noted that neither the White House nor the State Department had formally contacted him to clarify whether Trump had indeed made the comments at an Oval Office meeting Thursday. The remarks were relayed to NPR by a Democratic aide and another person familiar with the discussion.

On Friday morning, roughly 15 hours after the comments were first reported by The Washington Post, Trump disputed the details reported about his words in a series of tweets.

"The language used by me at the DACA meeting was tough, but this was not the language used," Trump said, referring to the policy he rescinded last year that protected immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children.

"I never said anything derogatory about Haitians other than Haiti is, obviously, a very poor and troubled country," Trump tweeted later, on the anniversary of an earthquake that killed at least 200,000 people in Haiti. "Never said 'take them out.' Made up by Dems. I have a wonderful relationship with Haitians. Probably should record future meetings unfortunately, no trust!"

After Trump denied using the slur, Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., who was at the White House meeting, said, "It's not true. He said these hate-filled things. And he said them repeatedly."

Though Altidor had not received direct comment from the Trump administration, he noted that "unfortunately we feel once again Haiti finds itself in the midst of a very negative narrative in the U.S."

He added that Haitians had fought in the American Revolution, that it was a Haitian immigrant who has been credited as the "father of Chicago," and that today "in many parts of the [U.S.], Haitians have been great contributors to this country."

"We're hoping this conversation would be an opportunity to address the Haiti conversation in the U.S. once and for all," Altidor said. "But we do regret what allegedly the president said about Haitians and other groups."

Altidor said that if Trump disparaged his and other countries, "you hope there would be possibly an apology, again, for what was said here, because we thought [those comments] were misplaced. They were misguided. And these types of statements do not help in terms of reinforcing the relationship between Haiti and the United States."

But Haiti was not the only country Trump mentioned in the meeting. Here is how some of the other countries are responding on Friday:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/01/12/577599691/racist-and-shameful-how-other-countries-are-responding-to-trumps-slur

Obviously, I didn't actually include the responses as, for a change, I don't want to spam-post and there are a lot responses.

I don't care.
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wwinterj25 posted...

I don't care.

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Shithole countries aren't desirable places to import from.
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What's the difference between "indifferent" and "don't care"?
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MannerSaurus posted...

What's the difference between "indifferent" and "don't care"?

You can agree or disagree without caring that he agrees or disagrees.
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Not at all surprised

I think its a mistake that so many people are focused on him using the word shithole though, that isnt that big of a deal. Thats how people talk when they arent on tv

What is a big deal and is inarguably shameful is the fact that he thinks admission to this country should not be based on what an individual has to offer and what they can personally achieve, but what country they were born in and whether we want those kind of people
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Mead posted...

What is a big deal and is inarguably shameful is the fact that he thinks admission to this country should not be based on what an individual has to offer and what they can personally achieve, but what country they were born in and whether we want those kind of people

Cultures can be incompatible, and ability to integrate is arguably even more important than qualifications.
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Your bigoted views are already well known kyuubi, you dont need to keep parroting them we get it
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This was a tough one.

I agree that those countries are shit holes. I also don't care.
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Kungfu Kenobi posted...

I agree that those countries are shit holes

So do many of the people coming here from said countries

Thats why the ones immigrating here have often had more education that your average US citizen, so they can get out of there
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Mead posted...

What is a big deal and is inarguably shameful is the fact that he thinks admission to this country should not be based on what an individual has to offer and what they can personally achieve, but what country they were born in and whether we want those kind of people

Cultures can be incompatible, and ability to integrate is arguably even more important than qualifications.

Why do you keep posting about American culture?
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I don't really care, honestly. In terms of "would I live there," most other places on Earth get a huge "fuck no!" He's not entirely wrong, though 1) he shouldn't have said that, and 2) the way he said it was pretty bad.
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Mead posted...

Your bigoted views are already well known kyuubi, you dont need to keep parroting them we get it

Yes yes, everybody who isn't a globalist submissive is a bigot.

CacciatoPart2 posted...

Why do you keep posting about American culture?

Because we're on an American board full of Americans talking about American events?
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

1) he shouldn't have said that, and 2) the way he said it was pretty bad.

Is this not every day with Trump?
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Mead posted...

Your bigoted views are already well known kyuubi, you dont need to keep parroting them we get it

Yes yes, everybody who isn't a globalist submissive is a bigot.

CacciatoPart2 posted...

Why do you keep posting about American culture?

Because we're on an American board full of Americans talking about American events?

But youre not American. I dont post shit about British politics or about Brexit because I dont know anything about it, which is what you do about just about everything American related to American military/culture/or politics.
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CacciatoPart2 posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Mead posted...

Your bigoted views are already well known kyuubi, you dont need to keep parroting them we get it

Yes yes, everybody who isn't a globalist submissive is a bigot.

CacciatoPart2 posted...

Why do you keep posting about American culture?

Because we're on an American board full of Americans talking about American events?

But youre not American. I dont post shit about British politics or about Brexit because I dont know anything about it, which is what you do about just about everything American related to American military/culture/or politics.

You're not Trump, yet you talk about him.

You guys are a British colony, your business is a curio to us.
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Well, at least you didnt object to not knowing shit about our culture/military/politics.
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while i don't think he actually said those things, i do believe it's something he would say.

that's why no one has any fucking clue which side to take here.
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Well, his characterization is absolutely true and privately the bulk of his most vocal critics would admit the same.

Nor is it a racist remark, and pretending that it is undermines legitimate claims of racism.

Mead posted...

What is a big deal and is inarguably shameful is the fact that he thinks admission to this country should not be based on what an individual has to offer and what they can personally achieve, but what country they were born in and whether we want those kind of people

Oh? And what achievements do you think most Haitian immigrants are bringing with them? Even if you were taking unskilled labor from both, Norway has a better education system so their workers would still be a cut above.

Mead posted...

Thats why the ones immigrating here have often had more education that your average US citizen, so they can get out of there

You're confusing refugees with immigrants, and even then that's not true of most. (Also I'm going to resist the urge to harp on your typo (ie, "that" instead of "than") by making an education joke.)
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

1) he shouldn't have said that, and 2) the way he said it was pretty bad.

Is this not every day with Trump?

lol yes

He has also brought new meaning to the name "White House."
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CacciatoPart2 posted...

Well, at least you didnt object to not knowing shit about our culture/military/politics.

If you re-read what you wrote, you didn't actually question my knowledge of America, you merely expressed your lack of knowledge of England while failing to express yourself correctly in English.

Phrase your statement correctly if you expect a response.
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It's one of those statements in which being honest and being rude overlaps
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I'm going to preface this by saying that whether or not a country is a shithole should not determine the worth of an individual.

That said, countries like Haiti are like, objectively shitholes. And I don't even mean that figuratively. Cholera and the like are rampant in those kinds of places.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

CacciatoPart2 posted...

Well, at least you didnt object to not knowing shit about our culture/military/politics.

If you re-read what you wrote, you didn't actually question my knowledge of America, you merely expressed your lack of knowledge of England while failing to express yourself correctly in English.

Phrase your statement correctly if you expect a response.

Sorry you dont understand inferences : (
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