Current Events > UN confirms Trump 'shithole' countries slur is 'racist'

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That is all the proof Trump's supporters need to know it's not racist.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

So that makes it okay eh?

Is that what I said?

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

They consolidate and direct soldiers from other nations but absolutely military action is done under the UN Peacekeeping banner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_peacekeeping
It's not like they need their own standing military, mostly the concern of toothlessness is the lack of votes for action. Fucking derr.

Do YOU know a fucking thing about the UN? No worse than other organizations for corruption? HAAAAAAA HAhahHAHAahahhaah.

Yeah so not enough countries voted to do anything about these atrocities. That doesn't mean the UN itself is to blame dude. And like I mentjoned ready, that really isn't what the UN is for. They're not there to police the world. That was a regional issue that would have required substantial military intervention. So blaming them for that shows how you just don't get what the UN does.

I never once mentioned anything about corruption in the UN... So idk what you're freaking out about. But to compare their level of corruption with literally any country in the world? Lmao they're fucking angels compared to even the most moral countries that exist.

Anyways I've already broken down the silly anti UN points you've been bringing up so I want to know what your actual argument is. Should the US leave the UN? Should the UN disband completely? What are the pros and cons of whatever you're proposing? Something tells me you haven't even thought about the pros and cons seeing as how you believe Rwanda was solely a result of the UNs failure lol.
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nicklebro posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

We really need to back out of the UN and the democrats really need a reliable and respectful candidate

Back out of the UN? Horrible idea. Whether you like it or not, we need to work with the rest of the world as much as possible. And leaving the UN would damage our relationships immensely.

And don't talk about reliable respectful candidates when you literally elected Donald Trump. He's reliably the biggest liar in American history and the least respected world leader we've seen in a long time.

All we do is give the UN money and who then gives the money to shitholes countries that hate us. Also they hardly back us on anything ever.

And yes Trump is president but it was a horrible election first time i ever voted for a Republican in my life.
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If the UN still trying to be relevant?
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I hope these reps in the UN are getting paid top dollar to determine whether or not Trump is a racist based off of something they didn't even hear with their own ears.

God these people are so productive!
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Caution999 posted...

top dollar

The toppest of dollars good sir. They are almost as bad as the liberal smug elitists in holywoo.
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North Korea shithole
South Korea not a shithole

...hows that racist
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Solid Sonic posted...

Can someone tell me why the UN is equally as scoffed-at in this thread? I don't recall them doing anything particularly shitty.

"globalism"
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But he says he's the "least racist person you've ever interviewed!"
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KingCrabCake posted...

All we do is give the UN money and who then gives the money to shitholes countries that hate us. Also they hardly back us on anything ever.

And yes Trump is president but it was a horrible election first time i ever voted for a Republican in my life.

Yeah the UN is doing the dirty job of trying to bring third world countries our of poverty. That's a noble cause and no don't be silly by saying all those countries hate us.
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2 weeks into 2018 and now it's considered controversial and racist to refer to shitholes as shitholes.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck...
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Remember that old saying "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"? People should practice this more.
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Why is the UN addressing hearsay? Trump denounced it and no evidence has cropped up with him saying it.
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nicklebro posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

All we do is give the UN money and who then gives the money to shitholes countries that hate us. Also they hardly back us on anything ever.

And yes Trump is president but it was a horrible election first time i ever voted for a Republican in my life.

Yeah the UN is doing the dirty job of trying to bring third world countries our of poverty. That's a noble cause and no don't be silly by saying all those countries hate us.

Lol they literally do and the UN stands for everything we hate and are against. Look at the countries in the UN The US supplies abouta quater of the UN budget, most of its military power, and is one of the 5 members of the security council with veto power.

UN doesnt do shit for us but take our money
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i bet they do.
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voldothegr8 posted...

Why is the UN addressing hearsay? Trump denounced it and no evidence has cropped up with him saying it.

No idea you'd think they would care more about the countries in the UN that practice murdering people for fun
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KingCrabCake posted...

Lol they literally do and the UN stands for everything we hate and are against. Look at the countries in the UN The US supplies abouta quater of the UN budget, most of its military power, and is one of the 5 members of the security council with veto power.

UN doesnt do shit for us but take our money

C'mon dude... Literally all of the countries they provide aid to hate us? How am I supposed to take you seriously when you not only say that, but stick by it when called on it? Yeah sure maybe a few do, but all? Just... No.

And no the UN isn't about providing aid to the most powerful nation the world has ever seen. Wtf was the point of saying that? We provide that money and that military aid because it's in the US's interested to support those needy countries. And not for purely altruistic reasons either. Idk why I'd need to even mention that, most people would hear that the US is providing aid to the countries that need it the most and consider that a cause worthy in and of itself, but for some reason you just don't get that.

And once again saying the UN doesn't do shit just means you don't know enough about the UN to comment on it intelligently. Do at least the minimal amount of research before saying something like that. It's literally as dumb as if I were to say the UN has never had an instance of corruption ever.
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How the fuck is out racist? Unprofessional yes, but racist? That's reaching too far up your ass.
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I hate trump as much as the next person, but who cares what a group that put a country notorious for abuse in charge of dealing with said abuse
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The UN is still pissed that Trump is siding with Israel, so OF COURSE they're going to get into the game of denouncing everything he says now.
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Joke organization with no real power.
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UN can get off our soil and find somewhere else to sit around and jerk off all day
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Also not sure if this was brought up yet, but didn't Norway just agree to buy a shit ton of american fighter jets the day before Trump's comment? I'd think that's probably the reason Trump was praising them.

People just need to realize that, the vast majority of the time, Trump isn't a racist. He's a sociopath. He doesn't call them shithole countries because the people are brown... he calls them shithole countries because they don't offer anything that can benefit the country relative to other countries. It's all basic economics at play.
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s0nicfan posted...

Also not sure if this was brought up yet, but didn't Norway just agree to buy a shit ton of american fighter jets the day before Trump's comment? I'd think that's probably the reason Trump was praising them.

People just need to realize that, the vast majority of the time, Trump isn't a racist. He's a sociopath. He doesn't call them shithole countries because the people are brown... he calls them shithole countries because they don't offer anything that can benefit the country relative to other countries. It's all basic economics at play.

Then would you care to explain his comment about Haitians having AIDS and Nigerians living in mud huts?
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Literally an alleged comment behind closed doors. What? The guy can't act like a normal person behind closed doors now? And the UN has to take time from their "busy schedule" to make this announcement?

This just proves they really do nothing all day. They sit around acting like they're making a difference. By sending this memo out they have PROVEN, without a shadow of a doubt, they really are a bunch of cry-baby do-nothings.
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SageHarpuia posted...

Remember that old saying "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"? People should practice this more.

But... but... He tells it like it is...
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Also not sure if this was brought up yet, but didn't Norway just agree to buy a shit ton of american fighter jets the day before Trump's comment? I'd think that's probably the reason Trump was praising them.

People just need to realize that, the vast majority of the time, Trump isn't a racist. He's a sociopath. He doesn't call them shithole countries because the people are brown... he calls them shithole countries because they don't offer anything that can benefit the country relative to other countries. It's all basic economics at play.

Then would you care to explain his comment about Haitians having AIDS and Nigerians living in mud huts?

Regionally Haiti has the highest AIDS rate and Nigeria (specifically northern Nigeria) isn't far from mud huts. His comments come from a mix of partial information, hyperbole (I think we can all agree he likes to exaggerate), and ignorance.

Take the Nigeria example. Trump's comments likely comes from seeing pictures like this (which IS from Nigeria):

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Caution999 posted...

This just proves they really do nothing all day. They sit around acting like they're making a difference. By sending this memo out they have PROVEN, without a shadow of a doubt, they really are a bunch of cry-baby do-nothings.

The funny thing about this is it basically guarantees Trump is going work towards cutting what we give them.
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Caution999 posted...

Literally an alleged comment behind closed doors. What? The guy can't act like a normal person behind closed doors

1. Wasn't in private

2. "Normal people " aren't racist

3. The literal us president should be a man of a higher standard than 'normal people'

Bob the store clerk might say racist things bit that doesn't make him qualified to run the nation
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Caution999 posted...

Literally an alleged comment behind closed doors. What? The guy can't act like a normal person behind closed doors

1. Wasn't in private

2. "Normal people " aren't racist

3. The literal us president should be a man of a higher standard than 'normal people'

Bob the store clerk might say racist things bit that doesn't make him qualified to run the nation

The problem with #2 here is "calling someone racist as a default insult when all they've done is had an opinion that doesn't match your own" somehow...
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Caution999 posted...

Literally an alleged comment behind closed doors. What? The guy can't act like a normal person behind closed doors

1. Wasn't in private

2. "Normal people " aren't racist

3. The literal us president should be a man of a higher standard than 'normal people'

Bob the store clerk might say racist things bit that doesn't make him qualified to run the nation

Not only was it in private, you have two people present who specifically said he didn't use the term, one who doesn't remember hearing it, and two who haven't commented. And the two who say he did? They both have records of lying.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2018/01/15/durbin_has_a_history_of_lying_about_private_meetings_431501.html

Durbin Has a History of Lying About Private Meetings

But since everything we don't like is RACIST, carry on.
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There's also this line of reasoning: If those countries aren't shitholes, then its safe to send the refugees back because the countries they fled are now safe. You can't argue that we have a responsibility to keep refugees from those countries AND that said countries are perfectly fine places to live.
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nicklebro posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Lol they literally do and the UN stands for everything we hate and are against. Look at the countries in the UN The US supplies abouta quater of the UN budget, most of its military power, and is one of the 5 members of the security council with veto power.

UN doesnt do shit for us but take our money

C'mon dude... Literally all of the countries they provide aid to hate us? How am I supposed to take you seriously when you not only say that, but stick by it when called on it? Yeah sure maybe a few do, but all? Just... No.

And no the UN isn't about providing aid to the most powerful nation the world has ever seen. Wtf was the point of saying that? We provide that money and that military aid because it's in the US's interested to support those needy countries. And not for purely altruistic reasons either. Idk why I'd need to even mention that, most people would hear that the US is providing aid to the countries that need it the most and consider that a cause worthy in and of itself, but for some reason you just don't get that.

And once again saying the UN doesn't do shit just means you don't know enough about the UN to comment on it intelligently. Do at least the minimal amount of research before saying something like that. It's literally as dumb as if I were to say the UN has never had an instance of corruption ever.

No not all the countries there hate us but a large amount do and a large amount of those countries taking our money our corrupt as shit.

We dont need to be there. We shouldn't be there. Therees countries there that stand for the exact opposite of what we stand for and the UN is only a 1 way street.

What does the UN do for America? Besides take billions of dollars from us that could be used to help our people?
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s0nicfan posted...

There's also this line of reasoning: If those countries aren't shitholes, then its safe to send the refugees back because the countries they fled are now safe. You can't argue that we have a responsibility to keep refugees from those countries AND that said countries are perfectly fine places to live.

You're trying to apply logic to the situation, and that doesn't work with liberals. Their outrage is PURELY emotional. Trump hurt their feelings. It's not even the coarse language that hurt their feelings, because they had no objection when Barack Obama called a country a "shitshow.'
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North Korea is a shithole, South Korea is not....is that statement racist?
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If Trump saying many African countries are shitholes makes him racist against black people, does that mean liberals saying Norway and Sweden are great places make them racist IN FAVOR of white people?

OMG, the left are a bunch of white supremacists! Everything's racist!
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Lol Trump says a country is a shithole and it caused this much outrage?

Go visit those African countries or hati, go see for yourself. I doubt you'll even come back
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KingCrabCake posted...

No not all the countries there hate us but a large amount do and a large amount of those countries taking our money our corrupt as shit.

There? Where's there?

And what's a large amount? Do you have a number? A %? Or are you just talking out your ass?

KingCrabCake posted...

We dont need to be there. We shouldn't be there. Therees countries there that stand for the exact opposite of what we stand for and the UN is only a 1 way street.

Where is there? Do you actually think the UN is a place?

And yeah we don't need to be anywhere, bit you need to provide an actual argument for why we shouldn't be there. Like I already said, most people would say the immense amount of good we're doing around the world through the UN is reason enough for us to remain a part of it. So what is your counter to that?

KingCrabCake posted...

What does the UN do for America? Besides take billions of dollars from us that could be used to help our people?

It brings at risk nations out of poverty and strife where they could have become the next breeding ground for terrorist organizations.

I mean I could go on and will if you need me to, but are you really just completely apathetic when it comes to helping other countries? You really just don't give shit what happens to any one that isn't American? Because if that's your answer, well then I guess most of America is just far more altruistic than you are and actually sees the value in helping the neediest people in the world.

I mean by your logic, you should be happy that the UN doesn't get involved in stopping genocides. The less they do for countries that aren't America they better.

And weird how whenever things come up in America like the recent tax bill or Obamacare, you couldn't give less of a fuck about helping other Americans, but when it comes to contributing to the UN all of a sudden we need all that money to help our citizens.
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KillerKhan420 posted...

Lol Trump says a country is a shithole and it caused this much outrage?

Go visit those African countries or hati, go see for yourself. I doubt you'll even come back

Idk why you guys are having such a hard time understanding that that is the what people are mad about.

Seriously, anyone who's answer is "but they are shithole countries!" Just needs to sit back and chill while the grown ups talk.
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nicklebro posted...

KillerKhan420 posted...

Lol Trump says a country is a shithole and it caused this much outrage?

Go visit those African countries or hati, go see for yourself. I doubt you'll even come back

Idk why you guys are having such a hard time understanding that that is the what people are mad about.

Seriously, anyone who's answer is "but they are shithole countries!" Just needs to sit back and chill while the grown ups talk.

In your eyes the people running around complaining that everything they don't like is racism are the "grown ups?"

lolno
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Apparently to you complaining that anything is racism means that you're combining everything is racism.

And tbh the obvious racist tones of this quote aren't what bother me, it's the sheer stupidity expressed by the most powerful man in the world. It's Nother reminder of how much people like you fucked this country up simply for a laugh.
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So are they shitholes or not?
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nicklebro posted...

And what's a large amount? Do you have a number? A %? Or are you just talking out your ass?

I already said its about 25% of their budget ...soo ya

yeah we don't need to be anywhere, bit you need to provide an actual argument for why we shouldn't be there. Like I already said, most people would say the immense amount of good we're doing around the world through the UN is reason enough for us to remain a part of it. So what is your counter to that?

We dont need to be there because its a waste of our money, countries there hate us, & they stand for the exact opposite of what we represent. Plus we get nothing in return

It brings at risk nations out of poverty and strife where they could have become the next breeding ground for terrorist organizations.

Lol citation needed...what countries have been saved from poverty?

I mean I could go on and will if you need me to, but are you really just completely apathetic when it comes to helping other countries? You really just don't give shit what happens to any one that isn't American? Because if that's your answer, well then I guess most of America is just far more altruistic than you are and actually sees the value in helping the neediest people in the world.

I mean by your logic, you should be happy that the UN doesn't get involved in stopping genocides. The less they do for countries that aren't America they better.

And weird how whenever things come up in America like the recent tax bill or Obamacare, you couldn't give less of a fuck about helping other Americans, but when it comes to contributing to the UN all of a sudden we need all that money to help our citizens.

Whole lot of projection and generalization going on this post.

We should help other countries but we dont need to be in the UN for that.

Also Obamacare lol i was against it because of the fine and because of how great my taxes were raised by it.

And speaking of hypocrisy...you guys always talk about how we dont need a big military or waste money on it..yet you want to be the UNs muscle

America does not need the UN the UN needs us
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KingCrabCake posted...

We dont need to be there because its a waste of our money, countries there hate us, & they stand for the exact opposite of what we represent. Plus we get nothing in return

The US should be there by nature of the fact that we have a permanent veto and for the reasons you stated. Imagine the UN without the US there to veto things.
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If the UN didn't have the US it would flop like the League of Nations
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Everyone in the world recognizes it's racist except Trump supporters. That really says everything there is about how far removed his supporters are from reality

s0nicfan posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

We dont need to be there because its a waste of our money, countries there hate us, & they stand for the exact opposite of what we represent. Plus we get nothing in return

The US should be there by nature of the fact that we have a permanent veto and for the reasons you stated. Imagine the UN without the US there to veto things.

UN does what it wants anyway as do we. Theres literally no point of the UN other than to measure dicks and take our money and troops

After UN gave America the middle finger about the Jerusalem embassy i would think people would see how pathetic the UN is...apparently not
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@Axiom posted...

Everyone in the world recognizes it's racist except Trump supporters. That really says everything there is about how far removed his supporters are from reality

And no one has been able to explain how its racist...so there's that.

Also because it's fun shitting on people who say the shithole comment was racist...

Is this racist... North Korea is a shithole, South Korea is not
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ilovu posted...

COVxy posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

Not to mention in like most of africa children starve to death in wooden huts

Lmao. Preeettty sure that's not an accurate depiction of Africa.

yeah this isn't 1965

people in Africa really aren't doing that badly.

Don't they still arrest people for witchcraft in some of their countries? And is there not a unfortunately large amount of people there that think having sex with a virgin will cure AIDS? I know that most still don't live in huts but they still have a long way to go.
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KingCrabCake posted...

Axiom posted...

Everyone in the world recognizes it's racist except Trump supporters. That really says everything there is about how far removed his supporters are from reality

And no one has been able to explain how its racist...so there's that.

Also because it's fun shitting on people who say the shithole comment was racist...

Is this racist... North Korea is a shithole, South Korea is not

Actually countless people on here have explained how it's racist and every time it has been dismissed by delusional supporters but here I'll give you a link for you to read and dismiss yet again

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76204143/894093251