Poll of the Day > Food stamp program to make fresh produce more affordable.

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WastelandCowboy 01/16/18 7:47:48 PM #1:	https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/01/16/577662116/food-stamp-program-makes-fresh-produce-more-affordable Rebeca Gonzalez grew up eating artichokes from her grandmother's farm in the central Mexican state of Tlaxcala. But for years after emigrating to the U.S., she did not feed them to her own kids because the spiky, fibrous vegetables were too expensive on this side of the border. When she prepared meals at her family's home in Garden Grove, Calif., Gonzalez would also omit avocados, a staple of Mexican cuisine that are often costly here. "I saw the prices and I said, 'No, never mind,' " says Gonzalez, a 47-year-old child care worker who receives about $500 a month in food stamps. But those items are no longer out of reach for her family. Since enrolling last year in a program that rewards food stamp beneficiaries for buying more fresh produce, Gonzalez has regularly filled her shopping cart with the fruits and vegetables of her childhood not only avocados and artichokes, but pomegranates, various types of squash and more. Participation in the program, called "Ms Fresco" "More Fresh" in English gives Gonzalez an additional $40 a month to spend on produce, allowing her to broaden the palates of her three children, who were born in the U.S. "The good thing is my family likes to try the new vegetables," she says. "Now I can buy them because I have the extra money." The University of California, San Diego is administering Ms Fresco and studying its results with a $3.4 million grant from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which has funded similar efforts in other states, including Illinois, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Minnesota and New Mexico. The dollars invested in those states have been aimed at inducing food stamp recipients to buy more produce at farmers markets or at mobile markets that visit low-income neighborhoods. Ms Fresco is open to Southern Californians in Los Angeles, Orange and San Diego counties who are enrolled in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP the official name for food stamp benefits. The goal of the four-year program, like that of its counterparts in other states, is to improve diets and overall health by making fresh produce more affordable. "We know food insecurity and, unfortunately, chronic disease go hand in hand," says Joe Prickitt, a UCSD dietitian who is senior director of Ms Fresco. "For SNAP participants, there's a real cost barrier to buying fruits and vegetables. They say they're just too expensive." Since Ms Fresco began in February 2017, it has enrolled 1,153 participants, who receive an average of $329 a month in food stamps and typically live in households of five or six people. Ninety percent of them are Latino, but adults from any ethnic background can join, provided they are willing to shop at a participating Northgate Gonzlez Market an Anaheim, Calif.-based Latino grocery chain that is Ms Fresco's retail partner. For every dollar's worth of food stamps enrollees spend on fresh produce in a given month, they receive a one-to-one match up to $10, $20 or $40 that they can spend only on more fruits and vegetables. The UC-San Diego researchers who are studying the program varied the maximum reward amounts and assigned them randomly to participants to help determine the optimal dollar level that changes people's dietary habits. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:894191558] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/01/16/577662116/food-stamp-program-makes-fresh-produce-more-affordable <quote>Rebeca Gonzalez grew up eating artichokes from her grandmother's farm in the central Mexican state of Tlaxcala. But for years after emigrating to the U.S., she did not feed them to her own kids because the spiky, fibrous vegetables were too expensive on this side of the border. When she prepared meals at her family's home in Garden Grove, Calif., Gonzalez would also omit avocados, a staple of Mexican cuisine that are often costly here. "I saw the prices and I said, 'No, never mind,' " says Gonzalez, a 47-year-old child care worker who receives about $500 a month in food stamps. But those items are no longer out of reach for her family. Since enrolling last year in a program that rewards food stamp beneficiaries for buying more fresh produce, Gonzalez has regularly filled her shopping cart with the fruits and vegetables of her childhood not only avocados and artichokes, but pomegranates, various types of squash and more. Participation in the program, called "Ms Fresco" "More Fresh" in English gives Gonzalez an additional $40 a month to spend on produce, allowing her to broaden the palates of her three children, who were born in the U.S. "The good thing is my family likes to try the new vegetables," she says. "Now I can buy them because I have the extra money." The University of California, San Diego is administering Ms Fresco and studying its results with a $3.4 million grant from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which has funded similar efforts in other states, including Illinois, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Minnesota and New Mexico. The dollars invested in those states have been aimed at inducing food stamp recipients to buy more produce at farmers markets or at mobile markets that visit low-income neighborhoods. Ms Fresco is open to Southern Californians in Los Angeles, Orange and San Diego counties who are enrolled in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP the official name for food stamp benefits. The goal of the four-year program, like that of its counterparts in other states, is to improve diets and overall health by making fresh produce more affordable. "We know food insecurity and, unfortunately, chronic disease go hand in hand," says Joe Prickitt, a UCSD dietitian who is senior director of Ms Fresco. "For SNAP participants, there's a real cost barrier to buying fruits and vegetables. They say they're just too expensive." Since Ms Fresco began in February 2017, it has enrolled 1,153 participants, who receive an average of $329 a month in food stamps and typically live in households of five or six people. Ninety percent of them are Latino, but adults from any ethnic background can join, provided they are willing to shop at a participating Northgate Gonzlez Market an Anaheim, Calif.-based Latino grocery chain that is Ms Fresco's retail partner. For every dollar's worth of food stamps enrollees spend on fresh produce in a given month, they receive a one-to-one match up to $10, $20 or $40 that they can spend only on more fruits and vegetables. The UC-San Diego researchers who are studying the program varied the maximum reward amounts and assigned them randomly to participants to help determine the optimal dollar level that changes people's dietary habits.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 01/16/18 7:48:10 PM #2:	The six participating Northgate stores two in each of the three participating counties use loyalty cards to tally produce purchases and distribute the credits. The amount of credit participants have earned and redeemed is itemized at the bottom of their receipts, and the credit carries over from month to month. Research has shown that affordability is an obstacle to healthier eating for people of modest means. A 2013 study by researchers at Harvard and Brown universities estimated that a healthful diet costs about $550 a year more per person than an unhealthy one. "For many low-income families, this additional cost represents a genuine barrier to healthier eating," the authors concluded. "Yet, this daily price difference is trivial in comparison with the lifetime personal and societal financial burdens of diet-related chronic diseases." A 2016 report by the U.S. Department of Agriculture revealed that food stamp recipients spend a smaller percentage of their grocery budgets on fruits and vegetables than other Americans do. Financial incentives like the ones being tested in California can help narrow that gap. A 2011 study of an incentive program in Massachusetts found that people on food stamps who got an extra 30 cents for every dollar they spent on fruits and vegetables consumed nearly a quarter-cup, or 26 percent, more fresh produce per day than recipients who did not get such an incentive. Last week, Ms Fresco began to enroll a second round of up to 2,000 people who will receive the incentive for one year. The current participants will continue in the program through June. Prickitt says he hopes that even after their financial incentives end, participants will retain what they have learned about healthy eating and continue buying produce. Food policy experts note that many other factors can influence a family's food choices, including lack of time. "If parents are working more than one job or children are in more than one school or activity, how do you teach the skills of how you can prepare food, even on a busy weeknight?" says Dr. Dean Sidelinger, a pediatrician and child-health medical officer for San Diego County. Some advocates for healthful diets have argued that the government should not only encourage people to buy healthier food, but also discourage unhealthful habits. A 2014 Health Affairs study by Stanford University researchers showed that banning the purchase of soda with food stamps would reduce rates of obesity and diabetes, while a credit of 30 cents on the dollar for buying fresh produce alone would not. In 2017, more than a dozen researchers from different universities urged SNAP to eliminate diet-related health disparities among programs for low-income people. They noted, for example, that the federal food-assistance program known as Women, Infants and Children, or WIC, excluded soda and candy, but that people could still buy those products with food stamps. "There are generations of unhealthy people who are overweight with diabetes and hypertension," says Jim Floros, president and CEO of the San Diego Food Bank, which has advertised the Ms Fresco program to its clients. "That's completely linked back to a poor diet, which is linked back to poverty." Rebeca Gonzalez, who moved to the U.S. at age 18, decided to overhaul her family's eating habits after her husband, Javier Landeros, was diagnosed with diabetes two years ago. Instead of buying cookies, she now keeps chopped fruits and veggies in the fridge for snacks. She says she wants to instill the same healthy habits her grandmother passed on to her. "I know she gave us good food," Gonzalez says, "because she lived 105 years." <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:894191581] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><quote>The six participating Northgate stores two in each of the three participating counties use loyalty cards to tally produce purchases and distribute the credits. The amount of credit participants have earned and redeemed is itemized at the bottom of their receipts, and the credit carries over from month to month. Research has shown that affordability is an obstacle to healthier eating for people of modest means. A 2013 study by researchers at Harvard and Brown universities estimated that a healthful diet costs about $550 a year more per person than an unhealthy one. "For many low-income families, this additional cost represents a genuine barrier to healthier eating," the authors concluded. "Yet, this daily price difference is trivial in comparison with the lifetime personal and societal financial burdens of diet-related chronic diseases." A 2016 report by the U.S. Department of Agriculture revealed that food stamp recipients spend a smaller percentage of their grocery budgets on fruits and vegetables than other Americans do. Financial incentives like the ones being tested in California can help narrow that gap. A 2011 study of an incentive program in Massachusetts found that people on food stamps who got an extra 30 cents for every dollar they spent on fruits and vegetables consumed nearly a quarter-cup, or 26 percent, more fresh produce per day than recipients who did not get such an incentive. Last week, Ms Fresco began to enroll a second round of up to 2,000 people who will receive the incentive for one year. The current participants will continue in the program through June. Prickitt says he hopes that even after their financial incentives end, participants will retain what they have learned about healthy eating and continue buying produce. Food policy experts note that many other factors can influence a family's food choices, including lack of time. "If parents are working more than one job or children are in more than one school or activity, how do you teach the skills of how you can prepare food, even on a busy weeknight?" says Dr. Dean Sidelinger, a pediatrician and child-health medical officer for San Diego County. Some advocates for healthful diets have argued that the government should not only encourage people to buy healthier food, but also discourage unhealthful habits. A 2014 Health Affairs study by Stanford University researchers showed that banning the purchase of soda with food stamps would reduce rates of obesity and diabetes, while a credit of 30 cents on the dollar for buying fresh produce alone would not. In 2017, more than a dozen researchers from different universities urged SNAP to eliminate diet-related health disparities among programs for low-income people. They noted, for example, that the federal food-assistance program known as Women, Infants and Children, or WIC, excluded soda and candy, but that people could still buy those products with food stamps. "There are generations of unhealthy people who are overweight with diabetes and hypertension," says Jim Floros, president and CEO of the San Diego Food Bank, which has advertised the Ms Fresco program to its clients. "That's completely linked back to a poor diet, which is linked back to poverty." Rebeca Gonzalez, who moved to the U.S. at age 18, decided to overhaul her family's eating habits after her husband, Javier Landeros, was diagnosed with diabetes two years ago. Instead of buying cookies, she now keeps chopped fruits and veggies in the fridge for snacks. She says she wants to instill the same healthy habits her grandmother passed on to her. "I know she gave us good food," Gonzalez says, "because she lived 105 years." </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 01/16/18 7:50:10 PM #3:	What are produce prices like in 'murica? Produce is only personally expensive for me due to lack of effective storage, but objectively it's HELLA cheap. You can get like 4 bananas for $1 --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:894191680] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote>What are produce prices like in 'murica? Produce is only personally expensive for me due to lack of effective storage, but objectively it's HELLA cheap. You can get like 4 bananas for $1</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfestedAdam 01/16/18 7:51:44 PM #4:	Glad to hear this. Far too much food goes to waste as-is and doesn't help when some folks waste their food stamps on junk. Lokarin posted... Produce is only personally expensive for me due to lack of effective storage, but objectively it's HELLA cheap. You can get like 4 bananas for $1 I think it varies by the product. Prices for green onions went up quite a bit I think from the usual $0.25 a bundle to $1.00 in Los Angeles. Now I know its green onions and not exactly food food but that is just one example. --- "You must gather your party before venturing forth" "Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" <cite>InfestedAdam posted [p:894191772] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote>Glad to hear this. Far too much food goes to waste as-is and doesn't help when some folks waste their food stamps on junk. <cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Produce is only personally expensive for me due to lack of effective storage, but objectively it's HELLA cheap. You can get like 4 bananas for $1</quote> I think it varies by the product. Prices for green onions went up quite a bit I think from the usual $0.25 a bundle to $1.00 in Los Angeles. Now I know its green onions and not exactly food food but that is just one example.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 01/16/18 7:57:28 PM #5:	Lokarin posted... What are produce prices like in 'murica? Produce is only personally expensive for me due to lack of effective storage, but objectively it's HELLA cheap. You can get like 4 bananas for $1 Produce is usually pretty cheap but if its stuff like this that will be good: potatoes, leek, avocados and artichokes, but pomegranates, various types of squash <cite>dioxxys posted [p:894192094] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>What are produce prices like in 'murica? Produce is only personally expensive for me due to lack of effective storage, but objectively it's HELLA cheap. You can get like 4 bananas for $1</quote> Produce is usually pretty cheap but if its stuff like this that will be good: potatoes, leek, avocados and artichokes, but pomegranates, various types of squash</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 01/16/18 8:03:28 PM #6:	Produce is really only expensive for stuff that isn't in season or native in your area. Which makes perfect sense, transporting that stuff or growing them in a greenhouse is expensive. In the middle of fall I can get apples and pears for $3 for a 2 lb bag. Try to get that now in the dead of winter and you are paying at least twice that. The example given in the first paragraph makes sense because the US is like 9th in the world in artichoke production, and even then we only produce 1/10th of what Italy produces. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:894192410] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote>Produce is really only expensive for stuff that isn't in season or native in your area. Which makes perfect sense, transporting that stuff or growing them in a greenhouse is expensive. In the middle of fall I can get apples and pears for $3 for a 2 lb bag. Try to get that now in the dead of winter and you are paying at least twice that. The example given in the first paragraph makes sense because the US is like 9th in the world in artichoke production, and even then we only produce 1/10th of what Italy produces.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 01/16/18 8:11:26 PM #7:	Produce isn't expensive, ponsy dumbfuckery is expensive. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:894192881] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote>Produce isn't expensive, ponsy dumbfuckery is expensive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 01/16/18 8:21:54 PM #8:	Dikitain posted... Produce is really only expensive for stuff that isn't in season or native in your area. Which makes perfect sense, transporting that stuff or growing them in a greenhouse is expensive. In the middle of fall I can get apples and pears for $3 for a 2 lb bag. Try to get that now in the dead of winter and you are paying at least twice that. The example given in the first paragraph makes sense because the US is like 9th in the world in artichoke production, and even then we only produce 1/10th of what Italy produces. When you live where they grow nothing you will experience the pain of buying produce. It's easily the most expensive thing in my food budget, just because I don't eat meat or dairy. Meat and dairy are more costly by weight and even still they should cost more, they're heavily subsidized. I'm glad they're subsidizing for produce or encouraging it, finally. --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:894193532] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>Produce is really only expensive for stuff that isn't in season or native in your area. Which makes perfect sense, transporting that stuff or growing them in a greenhouse is expensive. In the middle of fall I can get apples and pears for $3 for a 2 lb bag. Try to get that now in the dead of winter and you are paying at least twice that. The example given in the first paragraph makes sense because the US is like 9th in the world in artichoke production, and even then we only produce 1/10th of what Italy produces.</quote> When you live where they grow nothing you will experience the pain of buying produce. It's easily the most expensive thing in my food budget, just because I don't eat meat or dairy. Meat and dairy are more costly by weight and even still they should cost more, they're heavily subsidized. I'm glad they're subsidizing for produce or encouraging it, finally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 01/16/18 8:23:01 PM #9:	Fuck off lady. I don't want you poor fucks making my avocados even more expensive --- "We're not even close" - Romans building Rome at the end of Day 1 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:894193599] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote>Fuck off lady. I don't want you poor fucks making my avocados even more expensive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeerOnTap 01/16/18 8:39:25 PM #10:	Glad to know the money the government steals from people to redistribute after they take their cut is being used to buy avacados and whatnot. Government shouldn't be picking and choosing what industries they prop up with taxpayer money. <cite>BeerOnTap posted [p:894194634] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote>Glad to know the money the government steals from people to redistribute after they take their cut is being used to buy avacados and whatnot. Government shouldn't be picking and choosing what industries they prop up with taxpayer money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 01/16/18 8:47:42 PM #11:	BeerOnTap posted... Glad to know the money the government steals from people to redistribute after they take their cut is being used to buy avacados and whatnot. Government shouldn't be picking and choosing what industries they prop up with taxpayer money. The US government heavily subsidizes almost every other food produced except for produce http://wapo.st/2EOD6EP --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:894195107] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>BeerOnTap posted...</cite> <quote>Glad to know the money the government steals from people to redistribute after they take their cut is being used to buy avacados and whatnot. Government shouldn't be picking and choosing what industries they prop up with taxpayer money.</quote> The US government heavily subsidizes almost every other food produced except for produce http://wapo.st/2EOD6EP</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 01/16/18 9:26:53 PM #12:	BeerOnTap posted... Government shouldn't be picking and choosing what industries they prop up with taxpayer money. It's literally their job, would you rather they just take your money and sit on it? --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:894197448] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>BeerOnTap posted...</cite> <quote>Government shouldn't be picking and choosing what industries they prop up with taxpayer money.</quote> It's literally their job, would you rather they just take your money and sit on it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 01/16/18 9:29:55 PM #13:	...so basically our tax dollars are going to help people drive up the cost of produce. Paying the government to kick taxpayers in the balls again. WastelandCowboy posted... When she prepared meals at her family's home in Garden Grove, Calif., Gonzalez would also omit avocados, a staple of Mexican cuisine that are often costly here. Avocados are a shithole food. She should be thankful to be free from them. Lokarin posted... What are produce prices like in 'murica? Produce is only personally expensive for me due to lack of effective storage, but objectively it's HELLA cheap. You can get like 4 bananas for $1 I don't know why you'd highlight bananas for your example, but afaik they're on the cheap side. I've never bought bananas so don't quote me on the exact price. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:894197641] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote>...so basically our tax dollars are going to help people drive up the cost of produce. Paying the government to kick taxpayers in the balls again. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>When she prepared meals at her family's home in Garden Grove, Calif., Gonzalez would also omit avocados, a staple of Mexican cuisine that are often costly here.</quote> Avocados are a shithole food. She should be thankful to be free from them. <cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>What are produce prices like in 'murica? Produce is only personally expensive for me due to lack of effective storage, but objectively it's HELLA cheap. You can get like 4 bananas for $1</quote> I don't know why you'd highlight bananas for your example, but afaik they're on the cheap side. I've never bought bananas so don't quote me on the exact price.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 01/16/18 9:35:22 PM #14:	Zeus posted... Avocados are a shithole food. She should be thankful to be free from them. I don't like them, but I know they're good stuff, they're an excellent source of fats. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:894197966] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Avocados are a shithole food. She should be thankful to be free from them. </quote> I don't like them, but I know they're good stuff, they're an excellent source of fats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 01/16/18 9:35:23 PM #15:	Doctor Foxx posted... BeerOnTap posted... Glad to know the money the government steals from people to redistribute after they take their cut is being used to buy avacados and whatnot. Government shouldn't be picking and choosing what industries they prop up with taxpayer money. The US government heavily subsidizes almost every other food produced except for produce http://wapo.st/2EOD6EP They also heavily subsidize produce through things like water rights and the farming industry in some states is largely responsible for some major droughts. And, given that the cost of producing meat is far higher than most other foodstuffs, it's more in need of subsidies. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:894197968] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BeerOnTap posted...</cite> <quote>Glad to know the money the government steals from people to redistribute after they take their cut is being used to buy avacados and whatnot. Government shouldn't be picking and choosing what industries they prop up with taxpayer money.</quote> The US government heavily subsidizes almost every other food produced except for produce http://wapo.st/2EOD6EP</quote> They also heavily subsidize produce through things like water rights and the farming industry in some states is largely responsible for some major droughts. And, given that the cost of producing meat is far higher than most other foodstuffs, it's more in need of subsidies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 01/16/18 9:35:43 PM #16:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Zeus posted... Avocados are a shithole food. She should be thankful to be free from them. I don't like them, but I know they're good stuff, they're an excellent source of fats. They ruin sushi and they're stupid and I hate them. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:894197985] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Avocados are a shithole food. She should be thankful to be free from them. </quote> I don't like them, but I know they're good stuff, they're an excellent source of fats.</quote> They ruin sushi and they're stupid and I hate them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 01/16/18 9:38:04 PM #17:	Zeus posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Zeus posted... Avocados are a shithole food. She should be thankful to be free from them. I don't like them, but I know they're good stuff, they're an excellent source of fats. They ruin sushi and they're stupid and I hate them. Duh, it's not an authentic sushi ingredient, blame LA. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:894198119] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Avocados are a shithole food. She should be thankful to be free from them. </quote> I don't like them, but I know they're good stuff, they're an excellent source of fats.</quote> They ruin sushi and they're stupid and I hate them.</quote> Duh, it's not an authentic sushi ingredient, blame LA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 01/16/18 10:34:23 PM #18:	Zeus posted... I don't know why you'd highlight bananas for your example Why else? Because I happened to get bananas recently. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:894201220] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> I don't know why you'd highlight bananas for your example</quote> Why else? Because I happened to get bananas recently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 01/16/18 10:49:07 PM #19:	Zeus posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Zeus posted... Avocados are a shithole food. She should be thankful to be free from them. I don't like them, but I know they're good stuff, they're an excellent source of fats. They ruin sushi and they're stupid and I hate them. How do they "ruin sushi"? How are they "stupid"? Sounds more like rambling anger from a crotched old man. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:894202092] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Avocados are a shithole food. She should be thankful to be free from them. </quote> I don't like them, but I know they're good stuff, they're an excellent source of fats.</quote> They ruin sushi and they're stupid and I hate them.</quote> How do they "ruin sushi"? How are they "stupid"? Sounds more like rambling anger from a crotched old man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 01/16/18 10:50:12 PM #20:	WastelandCowboy posted... How do they "ruin sushi"? It's like. Hmmm, I have all this delicious rice... let's put, ummmm, GUAC on it. ... uhg --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:894202172] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>How do they "ruin sushi"?</quote> It's like. Hmmm, I have all this delicious rice... let's put, ummmm, GUAC on it. ... uhg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 01/16/18 10:52:56 PM #21:	vegetables are the only thing that isn't subsidized heavily meat is but produce is not unless you consider corn produce --- Bloodborne's Themes Explored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv2-IxQ8VTQ <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:894202338] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote>vegetables are the only thing that isn't subsidized heavily meat is but produce is not unless you consider corn produce</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 01/16/18 10:55:42 PM #22:	Lokarin posted... WastelandCowboy posted... How do they "ruin sushi"? It's like. Hmmm, I have all this delicious rice... let's put, ummmm, GUAC on it. ... uhg Except it's not guacamole. It's avocado. Guacamole's main ingredients are avocados, sea salt, and lime juice. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:894202510] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>How do they "ruin sushi"?</quote> It's like. Hmmm, I have all this delicious rice... let's put, ummmm, GUAC on it. ... uhg</quote> Except it's not guacamole. It's avocado. Guacamole's main ingredients are avocados, sea salt, and lime juice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 01/16/18 11:02:47 PM #23:	Zeus posted... Doctor Foxx posted... BeerOnTap posted... Glad to know the money the government steals from people to redistribute after they take their cut is being used to buy avacados and whatnot. Government shouldn't be picking and choosing what industries they prop up with taxpayer money. The US government heavily subsidizes almost every other food produced except for produce http://wapo.st/2EOD6EP They also heavily subsidize produce through things like water rights and the farming industry in some states is largely responsible for some major droughts. And, given that the cost of producing meat is far higher than most other foodstuffs, it's more in need of subsidies. They subsidize water: far more water goes to grains and feed for livestock than goes to produce. Plus you get beverage producers taking advantage of water. If you want to blame anything in agriculture, look to animal products. They do double damage with the excessive crop requirements and the water required for the animals themselves. There's also actual direct subsidies to grain farmers (and government guaranteed prices) and compensation for those raising livestock. That compensation is not matched for produce farmers in any fashion. --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:894202890] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BeerOnTap posted...</cite> <quote>Glad to know the money the government steals from people to redistribute after they take their cut is being used to buy avacados and whatnot. Government shouldn't be picking and choosing what industries they prop up with taxpayer money.</quote> The US government heavily subsidizes almost every other food produced except for produce http://wapo.st/2EOD6EP</quote> They also heavily subsidize produce through things like water rights and the farming industry in some states is largely responsible for some major droughts. And, given that the cost of producing meat is far higher than most other foodstuffs, it's more in need of subsidies.</quote> They subsidize water: far more water goes to grains and feed for livestock than goes to produce. Plus you get beverage producers taking advantage of water. If you want to blame anything in agriculture, look to animal products. They do double damage with the excessive crop requirements and the water required for the animals themselves. There's also actual direct subsidies to grain farmers (and government guaranteed prices) and compensation for those raising livestock. That compensation is not matched for produce farmers in any fashion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 01/16/18 11:02:48 PM #24:	WastelandCowboy posted... gives Gonzalez an additional $40 a month to spend on produce so, like, two avocados then? --- "Dogs smell like they've had too much fun and need a bath Cats smell like espionage" - Mead <cite>helIy posted [p:894202891] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote> gives Gonzalez an additional $40 a month to spend on produce</quote> so, like, two avocados then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 01/17/18 1:29:58 AM #25:	WastelandCowboy posted... Lokarin posted... WastelandCowboy posted... How do they "ruin sushi"? It's like. Hmmm, I have all this delicious rice... let's put, ummmm, GUAC on it. ... uhg Except it's not guacamole. It's avocado. Guacamole's main ingredients are avocados, sea salt, and lime juice. and jalapenos, shallots, and cilantro leaving those out makes yous a bitch --- "We're not even close" - Romans building Rome at the end of Day 1 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:894209601] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>How do they "ruin sushi"?</quote> It's like. Hmmm, I have all this delicious rice... let's put, ummmm, GUAC on it. ... uhg</quote> Except it's not guacamole. It's avocado. Guacamole's main ingredients are avocados, sea salt, and lime juice.</quote> and jalapenos, shallots, and cilantro leaving those out makes yous a bitch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 01/17/18 10:11:49 AM #26:	Smarkil posted... WastelandCowboy posted... Lokarin posted... WastelandCowboy posted... How do they "ruin sushi"? It's like. Hmmm, I have all this delicious rice... let's put, ummmm, GUAC on it. ... uhg Except it's not guacamole. It's avocado. Guacamole's main ingredients are avocados, sea salt, and lime juice. and jalapenos, shallots, and cilantro leaving those out makes yous a bitch i know the best ones that can be found in a store, the brackenridge farm variety sold in a glass jar. very good jalapenos. --- I'd hate to be that guy. he'll be dodging freak accidents for the rest of his life now. Final Destination rules - RickyTheBAWSE <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:894222948] in Food stamp... [t:76209613]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>How do they "ruin sushi"?</quote> It's like. Hmmm, I have all this delicious rice... let's put, ummmm, GUAC on it. ... uhg</quote> Except it's not guacamole. It's avocado. Guacamole's main ingredients are avocados, sea salt, and lime juice.</quote> and jalapenos, shallots, and cilantro leaving those out makes yous a bitch</quote> i know the best ones that can be found in a store, the brackenridge farm variety sold in a glass jar. very good jalapenos.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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