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Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/19/18 7:37:27 PM #1:	I would argue that it is the best Star Wars film. Remove the whole going off to some weird planet and all that crap from it. Instead, have Finn, Poe, and Rose quietly start the seeds of a revolution on the capital ship. The same basic story telling effects take place, the same character growth happens as they learn that heroism is not dying for the cause always, but sometimes it is the courage to take losses and escape to fight another day. Even if you want to argue that it was needed to give us that awesome finale of the kids at the Casino Town talking about the legend of Luke Skywalker, just show a montage of the Resistance Members talking to others around the galaxy about what Luke did, and end with the same basic shot. I really felt like the Finn subplot was the only objectively poor part of the film. Yeah, we can nitpick on things (why not just send every ship to warp into the enemy fleet like we saw them do with the capital ship, etc. etc), but the other Star Wars films are not without their own kinda silly/stupid moments too. --- https://i.imgtc.com/5AQormY.gif <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:894394145] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>I would argue that it is the best Star Wars film. Remove the whole going off to some weird planet and all that crap from it. Instead, have Finn, Poe, and Rose quietly start the seeds of a revolution on the capital ship. The same basic story telling effects take place, the same character growth happens as they learn that heroism is not dying for the cause always, but sometimes it is the courage to take losses and escape to fight another day. Even if you want to argue that it was needed to give us that awesome finale of the kids at the Casino Town talking about the legend of Luke Skywalker, just show a montage of the Resistance Members talking to others around the galaxy about what Luke did, and end with the same basic shot. I really felt like the Finn subplot was the only objectively poor part of the film. Yeah, we can nitpick on things (why not just send every ship to warp into the enemy fleet like we saw them do with the capital ship, etc. etc), but the other Star Wars films are not without their own kinda silly/stupid moments too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 01/19/18 7:38:43 PM #2:	Because the Vice-Admiral didn't communicate the plan, and because that idiot flyboy had to be the hero, they got a lot of people killed for no reason. What a dumb subplot. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:894394214] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>Because the Vice-Admiral didn't communicate the plan, and because that idiot flyboy had to be the hero, they got a lot of people killed for no reason. What a dumb subplot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 01/19/18 7:39:44 PM #3:	It's really just too long and inconsequential, however let's not act like many other movies throughout history are guilty of the same thing. --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:894394266] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>It's really just too long and inconsequential, however let's not act like many other movies throughout history are guilty of the same thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheDarkCircle 01/19/18 7:48:06 PM #4:	The subplot is a weird thing, because it DOES have consequences for the story. The resistance escape crafts get detected and blown up because DJ rats to the FO that that's what's happening. But it's told in such a throwaway manner that the fact that Finn, Rose, and Poe fucked everything up for the Resistance barely registers. On top of the fact that no one in the Resistance seems to give a fuck that they got their people killed either when they're on Crait. Let's follow Poe, the dude whose thought process near killed us all. I don't mind the subplot, it's actually interesting to see them fail. I just wish it was given more weight within the movie. <cite>TheDarkCircle posted [p:894394748] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>The subplot is a weird thing, because it DOES have consequences for the story. The resistance escape crafts get detected and blown up because DJ rats to the FO that that's what's happening. But it's told in such a throwaway manner that the fact that Finn, Rose, and Poe fucked everything up for the Resistance barely registers. On top of the fact that no one in the Resistance seems to give a fuck that they got their people killed either when they're on Crait. Let's follow Poe, the dude whose thought process near killed us all. I don't mind the subplot, it's actually interesting to see them fail. I just wish it was given more weight within the movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 01/19/18 7:49:49 PM #5:	I wish Finn would walk into a room and die immediately like the Stormtrooper he is in the next movie. He's a terrible character. And so is Rose. --- Loading... <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:894394860] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>I wish Finn would walk into a room and die immediately like the Stormtrooper he is in the next movie. He's a terrible character. And so is Rose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Raich_ 01/19/18 7:50:52 PM #6:	i thought the whole point of the subplot was to justify finn going from not really caring about the rebels to feeling like part of the rebellion. idk someone wrote out a giant tweet thread on it and i read it and was like "huh, that makes sense" --- http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/chitlins_and_grits/_Raich_.jpg <cite>_Raich_ posted [p:894394920] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>i thought the whole point of the subplot was to justify finn going from not really caring about the rebels to feeling like part of the rebellion. idk someone wrote out a giant tweet thread on it and i read it and was like "huh, that makes sense"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 01/19/18 7:51:23 PM #7:	Rose is jar jar binks levels of awful. Kim jong un in a wig. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:894394947] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>Rose is jar jar binks levels of awful. Kim jong un in a wig.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/19/18 7:52:59 PM #9:	_Raich_ posted... i thought the whole point of the subplot was to justify finn going from not really caring about the rebels to feeling like part of the rebellion. idk someone wrote out a giant tweet thread on it and i read it and was like "huh, that makes sense" You could have done the same thing by having Finn meet other Resistance members and talking to them about what they think they should do, trying to get them to follow Poe's plan. Hell, have him travel between other ships within that group of Resistance Ships. You could introduce the hacker as someone left behind in one of the trailing ships, since he was a criminal or some shit. --- https://i.imgtc.com/5AQormY.gif <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:894395047] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Raich_ posted...</cite> <quote>i thought the whole point of the subplot was to justify finn going from not really caring about the rebels to feeling like part of the rebellion. idk someone wrote out a giant tweet thread on it and i read it and was like "huh, that makes sense"</quote> You could have done the same thing by having Finn meet other Resistance members and talking to them about what they think they should do, trying to get them to follow Poe's plan. Hell, have him travel between other ships within that group of Resistance Ships. You could introduce the hacker as someone left behind in one of the trailing ships, since he was a criminal or some shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BB mofo 01/19/18 7:56:53 PM #10:	They shot themselves in the foot with Finn. He was a throwaway character that was cast as black for the sake of diversity. Then the marketing tried to be clever and made a big deal about him being the new main character and a Jedi. The character gets attacked by certain fans who hate the idea of a black protagonist, and the black media mobilizes to protect the character. When the truth finally came out that he was a comedic sidekick, there was a huge backlash from the black community, who felt they had been duped by Disney. Now the filmmakers are stuck trying to make this character relevant to the plot to appease their critics. --- "But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" -Mark Twain <cite>BB mofo posted [p:894395235] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>They shot themselves in the foot with Finn. He was a throwaway character that was cast as black for the sake of diversity. Then the marketing tried to be clever and made a big deal about him being the new main character and a Jedi. The character gets attacked by certain fans who hate the idea of a black protagonist, and the black media mobilizes to protect the character. When the truth finally came out that he was a comedic sidekick, there was a huge backlash from the black community, who felt they had been duped by Disney. Now the filmmakers are stuck trying to make this character relevant to the plot to appease their critics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 01/19/18 7:58:37 PM #11:	like the entire point of the movie is the theme of failure. --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:894395335] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>like the entire point of the movie is the theme of failure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 01/19/18 8:04:30 PM #12:	_Raich_ posted... i thought the whole point of the subplot was to justify finn going from not really caring about the rebels to feeling like part of the rebellion. idk someone wrote out a giant tweet thread on it and i read it and was like "huh, that makes sense" But they already went down this road with Finn. The whole "I have to run away, wait no, I realize there are things worth fighting for" thing happened in the last movie. There's just no point to his arc in this movie. It was the same thing, except with a different girl. --- Currently Binging: Ghost in the Shell - Stand Alone Complex http://i.imgtc.com/YQId2Bz.png <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:894395651] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Raich_ posted...</cite> <quote>i thought the whole point of the subplot was to justify finn going from not really caring about the rebels to feeling like part of the rebellion. idk someone wrote out a giant tweet thread on it and i read it and was like "huh, that makes sense"</quote> But they already went down this road with Finn. The whole "I have to run away, wait no, I realize there are things worth fighting for" thing happened in the last movie. There's just no point to his arc in this movie. It was the same thing, except with a different girl.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 01/19/18 8:08:25 PM #13:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... _Raich_ posted... i thought the whole point of the subplot was to justify finn going from not really caring about the rebels to feeling like part of the rebellion. idk someone wrote out a giant tweet thread on it and i read it and was like "huh, that makes sense" You could have done the same thing by having Finn meet other Resistance members and talking to them about what they think they should do, trying to get them to follow Poe's plan. Hell, have him travel between other ships within that group of Resistance Ships. You could introduce the hacker as someone left behind in one of the trailing ships, since he was a criminal or some shit. The only reason they had to move the plot to space Abu Dhabi was because it's a Star Wars movie, a series in which every movie visits no fewer than two different exotic worlds. While I agree that the movie would have been much better served to keep the plot contained on the ship, the crowd not currently complaining about TLJ would have come out of the woodwork to complain about how it didn't feel like a Star Wars movie without meeting a planet-hopping quota. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:894395862] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Raich_ posted...</cite> <quote>i thought the whole point of the subplot was to justify finn going from not really caring about the rebels to feeling like part of the rebellion. idk someone wrote out a giant tweet thread on it and i read it and was like "huh, that makes sense"</quote> You could have done the same thing by having Finn meet other Resistance members and talking to them about what they think they should do, trying to get them to follow Poe's plan. Hell, have him travel between other ships within that group of Resistance Ships. You could introduce the hacker as someone left behind in one of the trailing ships, since he was a criminal or some shit.</quote> The only reason they had to move the plot to space Abu Dhabi was because it's a Star Wars movie, a series in which every movie visits no fewer than two different exotic worlds. While I agree that the movie would have been much better served to keep the plot contained on the ship, the crowd not currently complaining about TLJ would have come out of the woodwork to complain about how it didn't feel like a Star Wars movie without meeting a planet-hopping quota.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 01/19/18 8:10:41 PM #14:	I think it's kinda funny that people side with the Vice Admiral. If all of your friends around you were getting systematically wiped out and your commanding officer's only response was "keep running until we're out of fuel", you'd pull a Poe Dameron --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:894395992] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>I think it's kinda funny that people side with the Vice Admiral. If all of your friends around you were getting systematically wiped out and your commanding officer's only response was "keep running until we're out of fuel", you'd pull a Poe Dameron</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 01/19/18 8:11:16 PM #15:	Sparksfanboy posted... They just dropped his force sensitivity storyline altogether....lame. Other than successfully wielding a lightsaber (when he was trained in melee combat due to being in the military), what force sensitivity did he have? I remember people speculating from TFA trailers that he'd be the Jedi since they all showed him with the lightsaber but that was about it IIRC. It's been awhile since I watched it though to be fair. --- http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb289/volcaitlin/gifs/dancning.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:894396025] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sparksfanboy posted...</cite> <quote>They just dropped his force sensitivity storyline altogether....lame.</quote> Other than successfully wielding a lightsaber (when he was trained in melee combat due to being in the military), what force sensitivity did he have? I remember people speculating from TFA trailers that he'd be the Jedi since they all showed him with the lightsaber but that was about it IIRC. It's been awhile since I watched it though to be fair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C_Pain 01/19/18 8:11:34 PM #16:	If you hate on the last jedi you're an idiot. It's a film about failure --- How quaint. Join the Dank Chamber today: https://discord.gg/YwmDmtZ <cite>C_Pain posted [p:894396039] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>If you hate on the last jedi you're an idiot. It's a film about failure</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 01/19/18 8:13:08 PM #17:	littlebro07 posted... Other than successfully wielding a lightsaber (when he was trained in melee combat due to being in the military), what force sensitivity did he have? Except for the hilt, a lightsaber has no weight. You need the force to help make sure you don't cut your own limbs off. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:894396106] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>littlebro07 posted...</cite> <quote>Other than successfully wielding a lightsaber (when he was trained in melee combat due to being in the military), what force sensitivity did he have?</quote> Except for the hilt, a lightsaber has no weight. You need the force to help make sure you don't cut your own limbs off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HBOSS 01/19/18 8:14:16 PM #18:	C_Pain posted... If you hate on the last jedi you're an idiot. It's a film about failure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyo0v-T4Ues --- You don't stop playing because you grow old, You grow old because you stop playing <cite>HBOSS posted [p:894396175] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>C_Pain posted...</cite> <quote>If you hate on the last jedi you're an idiot. It's a film about failure</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyo0v-T4Ues</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 01/19/18 8:14:24 PM #19:	dave_is_slick posted... littlebro07 posted... Other than successfully wielding a lightsaber (when he was trained in melee combat due to being in the military), what force sensitivity did he have? Except for the hilt, a lightsaber has no weight. You need the force to help make sure you don't cut your own limbs off. Not necessarily. A normal human in the real world where the force doesn't exist could be trained to use one. --- Loading... <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:894396183] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>littlebro07 posted...</cite> <quote>Other than successfully wielding a lightsaber (when he was trained in melee combat due to being in the military), what force sensitivity did he have?</quote> Except for the hilt, a lightsaber has no weight. You need the force to help make sure you don't cut your own limbs off.</quote> Not necessarily. A normal human in the real world where the force doesn't exist could be trained to use one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fishy 01/19/18 8:15:09 PM #20:	C_Pain posted... If you hate on the last jedi you're an idiot. It's a film about failure hmm no wonder sjws love it so much then, easy to associate with --- ~Dr. FishyStick\| Welcome Back. http://i.imgur.com/z50xS2H.jpg <cite>Fishy posted [p:894396222] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>C_Pain posted...</cite> <quote>If you hate on the last jedi you're an idiot. It's a film about failure</quote> hmm no wonder sjws love it so much then, easy to associate with</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 01/19/18 8:15:42 PM #21:	Pepys Monster posted... dave_is_slick posted... littlebro07 posted... Other than successfully wielding a lightsaber (when he was trained in melee combat due to being in the military), what force sensitivity did he have? Except for the hilt, a lightsaber has no weight. You need the force to help make sure you don't cut your own limbs off. Not necessarily. A normal human in the real world where the force doesn't exist could be trained to use one. Except for Grievous, I can't recall someone not force sensitive using a lightsaber competently. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:894396246] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>littlebro07 posted...</cite> <quote>Other than successfully wielding a lightsaber (when he was trained in melee combat due to being in the military), what force sensitivity did he have?</quote> Except for the hilt, a lightsaber has no weight. You need the force to help make sure you don't cut your own limbs off.</quote> Not necessarily. A normal human in the real world where the force doesn't exist could be trained to use one.</quote> Except for Grievous, I can't recall someone not force sensitive using a lightsaber competently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/19/18 8:17:22 PM #22:	dave_is_slick posted... Pepys Monster posted... dave_is_slick posted... littlebro07 posted... Other than successfully wielding a lightsaber (when he was trained in melee combat due to being in the military), what force sensitivity did he have? Except for the hilt, a lightsaber has no weight. You need the force to help make sure you don't cut your own limbs off. Not necessarily. A normal human in the real world where the force doesn't exist could be trained to use one. Except for Grievous, I can't recall someone not force sensitive using a lightsaber competently. Han Solo used one as a basic tool, so the idea that normal people couldn't at all make use of it is 100% not true. --- https://i.imgtc.com/5AQormY.gif <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:894396318] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>littlebro07 posted...</cite> <quote>Other than successfully wielding a lightsaber (when he was trained in melee combat due to being in the military), what force sensitivity did he have?</quote> Except for the hilt, a lightsaber has no weight. You need the force to help make sure you don't cut your own limbs off.</quote> Not necessarily. A normal human in the real world where the force doesn't exist could be trained to use one.</quote> Except for Grievous, I can't recall someone not force sensitive using a lightsaber competently.</quote> Han Solo used one as a basic tool, so the idea that normal people couldn't at all make use of it is 100% not true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C_Pain 01/19/18 8:18:36 PM #23:	Fishy posted... C_Pain posted... If you hate on the last jedi you're an idiot. It's a film about failure hmm no wonder sjws love it so much then, easy to associate with complaining about holdo being an sjw is so fucking cringe --- How quaint. Join the Dank Chamber today: https://discord.gg/YwmDmtZ <cite>C_Pain posted [p:894396382] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fishy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C_Pain posted...</cite> <quote>If you hate on the last jedi you're an idiot. It's a film about failure</quote> hmm no wonder sjws love it so much then, easy to associate with</quote> complaining about holdo being an sjw is so fucking cringe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evolician 01/19/18 8:19:09 PM #24:	"Failure is the theme of the movie" is a poor excuse for all the characters making stupid decisions. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Lavidon/ https://www.twitch.tv/Lavidon <cite>Evolician posted [p:894396411] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>"Failure is the theme of the movie" is a poor excuse for all the characters making stupid decisions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HBOSS 01/19/18 8:22:26 PM #25:	--- You don't stop playing because you grow old, You grow old because you stop playing <cite>HBOSS posted [p:894396575] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/19/18 8:53:31 PM #26:	Alucard188 posted... Because the Vice-Admiral didn't communicate the plan, and because that idiot flyboy had to be the hero, they got a lot of people killed for no reason. What a dumb subplot. This. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894398288] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote>Because the Vice-Admiral didn't communicate the plan, and because that idiot flyboy had to be the hero, they got a lot of people killed for no reason. What a dumb subplot.</quote> This.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 01/19/18 8:54:32 PM #27:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... so the idea that normal people couldn't at all make use of it is 100% not true. I never said that. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:894398343] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>so the idea that normal people couldn't at all make use of it is 100% not true.</quote> I never said that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 01/19/18 8:57:10 PM #28:	yeah, they've really moved away from the whole "only jedi and sith can use lightsabers" and actually they do have weight outside of the hilt nowadays too --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:894398502] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>yeah, they've really moved away from the whole "only jedi and sith can use lightsabers" and actually they do have weight outside of the hilt nowadays too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 01/19/18 8:58:14 PM #29:	prince_leo posted... yeah, they've really moved away from the whole "only jedi and sith can use lightsabers" and actually they do have weight outside of the hilt nowadays too But they're made of light... --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:894398562] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote>yeah, they've really moved away from the whole "only jedi and sith can use lightsabers" and actually they do have weight outside of the hilt nowadays too</quote> But they're made of light...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/19/18 8:58:18 PM #30:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... dave_is_slick posted... Pepys Monster posted... dave_is_slick posted... littlebro07 posted... Other than successfully wielding a lightsaber (when he was trained in melee combat due to being in the military), what force sensitivity did he have? Except for the hilt, a lightsaber has no weight. You need the force to help make sure you don't cut your own limbs off. Not necessarily. A normal human in the real world where the force doesn't exist could be trained to use one. Except for Grievous, I can't recall someone not force sensitive using a lightsaber competently. Han Solo used one as a basic tool, so the idea that normal people couldn't at all make use of it is 100% not true. Are you saying that Solo could have battled a Jedi in a saber duel because he sliced open a tauntaun? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894398564] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>littlebro07 posted...</cite> <quote>Other than successfully wielding a lightsaber (when he was trained in melee combat due to being in the military), what force sensitivity did he have?</quote> Except for the hilt, a lightsaber has no weight. You need the force to help make sure you don't cut your own limbs off.</quote> Not necessarily. A normal human in the real world where the force doesn't exist could be trained to use one.</quote> Except for Grievous, I can't recall someone not force sensitive using a lightsaber competently.</quote> Han Solo used one as a basic tool, so the idea that normal people couldn't at all make use of it is 100% not true.</quote> Are you saying that Solo could have battled a Jedi in a saber duel because he sliced open a tauntaun?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 01/19/18 8:59:23 PM #31:	Coffeebeanz posted... you'd pull a Poe Dameron Get demoted for not following orders resulting in countless deaths and loss of resources? --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:894398627] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>you'd pull a Poe Dameron</quote> Get demoted for not following orders resulting in countless deaths and loss of resources?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 01/19/18 8:59:30 PM #32:	dave_is_slick posted... But they're made of light... they've never been made of light like, not even in 1977 --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:894398630] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote>But they're made of light... </quote> they've never been made of light like, not even in 1977</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guy_Fieri 01/19/18 8:59:35 PM #33:	The director was slurping hard on Kylo Ren the whole movie, all of the other characters and their plotlines were ruined as a result. --- http://i.imgtc.com/NPs6IZ7.png timmy timmy timmy turner he be wishin for a burger <cite>Guy_Fieri posted [p:894398638] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>The director was slurping hard on Kylo Ren the whole movie, all of the other characters and their plotlines were ruined as a result.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 01/19/18 8:59:50 PM #34:	AlisLandale posted... _Raich_ posted... i thought the whole point of the subplot was to justify finn going from not really caring about the rebels to feeling like part of the rebellion. idk someone wrote out a giant tweet thread on it and i read it and was like "huh, that makes sense" But they already went down this road with Finn. The whole "I have to run away, wait no, I realize there are things worth fighting for" thing happened in the last movie. There's just no point to his arc in this movie. It was the same thing, except with a different girl. This.. Finn was about the leave Rey hi and dry and then he say the Star Killer base and went back. This dude who sucks at fighting took on the Kylo. He was coward at the end he was man. (who got his butt kicked) but a man. Now his story is he is running once more. Then they make him someone who doesn't know anything is going on , and this dude is stopped by illegal parking . Think about that.. that is what RJ add to Finn. Because his bad parking 100s of people died . --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:894398650] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Raich_ posted...</cite> <quote>i thought the whole point of the subplot was to justify finn going from not really caring about the rebels to feeling like part of the rebellion. idk someone wrote out a giant tweet thread on it and i read it and was like "huh, that makes sense"</quote> But they already went down this road with Finn. The whole "I have to run away, wait no, I realize there are things worth fighting for" thing happened in the last movie. There's just no point to his arc in this movie. It was the same thing, except with a different girl.</quote> This.. Finn was about the leave Rey hi and dry and then he say the Star Killer base and went back. This dude who sucks at fighting took on the Kylo. He was coward at the end he was man. (who got his butt kicked) but a man. Now his story is he is running once more. Then they make him someone who doesn't know anything is going on , and this dude is stopped by illegal parking . Think about that.. that is what RJ add to Finn. Because his bad parking 100s of people died .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taxer 01/19/18 9:00:00 PM #35:	I wish that instead of having the Holdo character it should have been Admiral Ackbar instead --- https://soundcloud.com/taxerthetyrant <cite>Taxer posted [p:894398664] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>I wish that instead of having the Holdo character it should have been Admiral Ackbar instead</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 01/19/18 9:01:23 PM #36:	Taxer posted... I wish that instead of having the Holdo character it should have been Admiral Ackbar instead having Ackbar give his life in a suicidal attack would have eternal "allahu akbar" forever. no way that'd ever be signed off --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:894398739] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>Taxer posted...</cite> <quote>I wish that instead of having the Holdo character it should have been Admiral Ackbar instead</quote> having Ackbar give his life in a suicidal attack would have eternal "allahu akbar" forever. no way that'd ever be signed off</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taxer 01/19/18 9:07:52 PM #37:	prince_leo posted... Taxer posted... I wish that instead of having the Holdo character it should have been Admiral Ackbar instead having Ackbar give his life in a suicidal attack would have eternal "allahu akbar" forever. no way that'd ever be signed off Lmao for whatever reason that never crossed my mind, good point --- https://soundcloud.com/taxerthetyrant <cite>Taxer posted [p:894399099] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Taxer posted...</cite> <quote>I wish that instead of having the Holdo character it should have been Admiral Ackbar instead</quote> having Ackbar give his life in a suicidal attack would have eternal "allahu akbar" forever. no way that'd ever be signed off</quote> Lmao for whatever reason that never crossed my mind, good point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 01/19/18 9:09:35 PM #38:	Taxer posted... Lmao for whatever reason that never crossed my mind, good point Hell have Nien Nunb fly into it. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:894399210] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>Taxer posted...</cite> <quote> Lmao for whatever reason that never crossed my mind, good point</quote> Hell have Nien Nunb fly into it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 01/19/18 9:16:21 PM #40:	If JJ Abrams had done all three movies maybe he would have followed up on that. I really wish one person had done all three. At least been involved in the writing. --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:894399592] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote>If JJ Abrams had done all three movies maybe he would have followed up on that. I really wish one person had done all three. At least been involved in the writing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 01/19/18 9:18:14 PM #41:	DarthAragorn posted... If JJ Abrams had done all three movies maybe he would have followed up on that. I really wish one person had done all three. At least been involved in the writing. Yeah, why announce a new trilogy, but not have one director for the trilogy? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:894399703] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>If JJ Abrams had done all three movies maybe he would have followed up on that. I really wish one person had done all three. At least been involved in the writing.</quote> Yeah, why announce a new trilogy, but not have one director for the trilogy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/19/18 9:19:12 PM #42:	dave_is_slick posted... DarthAragorn posted... If JJ Abrams had done all three movies maybe he would have followed up on that. I really wish one person had done all three. At least been involved in the writing. Yeah, why announce a new trilogy, but not have one director for the trilogy? Because Disney has had success with multiple directors for the MCU. I mean, they've also had success with it with the SWCU so far, as they've all done exceptionally well. --- https://i.imgtc.com/5AQormY.gif <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:894399763] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>If JJ Abrams had done all three movies maybe he would have followed up on that. I really wish one person had done all three. At least been involved in the writing.</quote> Yeah, why announce a new trilogy, but not have one director for the trilogy?</quote> Because Disney has had success with multiple directors for the MCU. I mean, they've also had success with it with the SWCU so far, as they've all done exceptionally well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/19/18 9:27:29 PM #43:	CM_Ponch posted... Coffeebeanz posted... you'd pull a Poe Dameron Get demoted for not following orders resulting in countless deaths and loss of resources? Had Poe not destroyed that ship, they'd all be dead. Was the cost worth it? I don't know, and he deserved to be demoted, but let's remember that he literally saved their lived. After this, his commanding officer keeps a plan from EVERYONE that ultimately got far more people killed. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894400231] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>CM_Ponch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>you'd pull a Poe Dameron</quote> Get demoted for not following orders resulting in countless deaths and loss of resources?</quote> Had Poe not destroyed that ship, they'd all be dead. Was the cost worth it? I don't know, and he deserved to be demoted, but let's remember that he literally saved their lived. After this, his commanding officer keeps a plan from EVERYONE that ultimately got far more people killed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fishy 01/19/18 9:30:49 PM #44:	darkjedilink posted... After this, his commanding officer keeps a plan from EVERYONE that ultimately got far more people killed. the ONLY reason the plan got anyone killed was because Poe once again couldn't just sit down and shut the fuck up --- ~Dr. FishyStick\| Welcome Back. http://i.imgur.com/z50xS2H.jpg <cite>Fishy posted [p:894400411] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>After this, his commanding officer keeps a plan from EVERYONE that ultimately got far more people killed.</quote> the ONLY reason the plan got anyone killed was because Poe once again couldn't just sit down and shut the fuck up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 01/19/18 9:34:09 PM #45:	Fishy posted... the ONLY reason the plan got anyone killed was because Poe once again couldn't just sit down and shut the f* up He has responsibility to the people under him. From everyone's point of view she was just having people fly until they run out of fuel just to die. Yeah that is going to get your people to back up. More over her plan got 100s killed. Before Poe did anything. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:894400609] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fishy posted...</cite> <quote> the ONLY reason the plan got anyone killed was because Poe once again couldn't just sit down and shut the f* up</quote> He has responsibility to the people under him. From everyone's point of view she was just having people fly until they run out of fuel just to die. Yeah that is going to get your people to back up. More over her plan got 100s killed. Before Poe did anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 01/19/18 9:35:55 PM #46:	cjsdowg posted... Fishy posted... the ONLY reason the plan got anyone killed was because Poe once again couldn't just sit down and shut the f* up He has responsibility to the people under him. From everyone's point of view she was just having people fly until they run out of fuel just to die. Yeah that is going to get your people to back up. More over her plan got 100s killed. Before Poe did anything. I agree 100%, but I thought the medical frigate was blown up after Finn and whatsherface left? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:894400712] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fishy posted...</cite> <quote> the ONLY reason the plan got anyone killed was because Poe once again couldn't just sit down and shut the f* up</quote> He has responsibility to the people under him. From everyone's point of view she was just having people fly until they run out of fuel just to die. Yeah that is going to get your people to back up. More over her plan got 100s killed. Before Poe did anything.</quote> I agree 100%, but I thought the medical frigate was blown up after Finn and whatsherface left?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fishy 01/19/18 9:50:38 PM #47:	cjsdowg posted... He has responsibility to the people under him. From everyone's point of view she was just having people fly until they run out of fuel just to die. Yeah that is going to get your people to back up. More over her plan got 100s killed. Before Poe did anything. If your flag officer says to be patient you be patient. Finn, Rose, and Poe should seriously all be executed. They misappropriated resistance resources, actively led to the the death of the majority of resistance, and instigated a mutiny. --- ~Dr. FishyStick\| Welcome Back. http://i.imgur.com/z50xS2H.jpg <cite>Fishy posted [p:894401566] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote>He has responsibility to the people under him. From everyone's point of view she was just having people fly until they run out of fuel just to die. Yeah that is going to get your people to back up. More over her plan got 100s killed. Before Poe did anything.</quote> If your flag officer says to be patient you be patient. Finn, Rose, and Poe should seriously all be executed. They misappropriated resistance resources, actively led to the the death of the majority of resistance, and instigated a mutiny.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 01/19/18 9:53:04 PM #48:	Fishy posted... If your flag officer says to be patient you be patient. What is morale. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:894401695] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fishy posted...</cite> <quote>If your flag officer says to be patient you be patient.</quote> What is morale.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 01/19/18 9:53:53 PM #49:	Fishy posted... If your flag officer says to be patient you be patient. Finn, Rose, and Poe should seriously all be executed. They misappropriated resistance resources, actively led to the the death of the majority of resistance, and instigated a mutiny. When your flag officer is by all accounts marching to a slow death you don't just sit there and followers orders blindly. Edited to add. People on the Bridge didn't know what was going on. And that blond girl that help , her last jobs was being in charge of evacs and she didn't know what was going on. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:894401738] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fishy posted...</cite> <quote> If your flag officer says to be patient you be patient. Finn, Rose, and Poe should seriously all be executed. They misappropriated resistance resources, actively led to the the death of the majority of resistance, and instigated a mutiny.</quote> When your flag officer is by all accounts marching to a slow death you don't just sit there and followers orders blindly. Edited to add. People on the Bridge didn't know what was going on. And that blond girl that help , her last jobs was being in charge of evacs and she didn't know what was going on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/19/18 9:57:01 PM #50:	Fishy posted... darkjedilink posted... After this, his commanding officer keeps a plan from EVERYONE that ultimately got far more people killed. the ONLY reason the plan got anyone killed was because Poe once again couldn't just sit down and shut the fuck up The plan got people killed because NOBODY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894401894] in If you tak... [t:76220799]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fishy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>After this, his commanding officer keeps a plan from EVERYONE that ultimately got far more people killed.</quote> the ONLY reason the plan got anyone killed was because Poe once again couldn't just sit down and shut the fuck up</quote> The plan got people killed because NOBODY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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