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ilovu
01/20/18 10:12:18 AM
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now I wonder how many of those people who advocate drone striking people are among the most anti refugee here.
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TheGrindery
01/20/18 10:13:40 AM
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So did anyone say the omelette thing yet?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/20/18 10:17:36 AM
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ilovu posted...
now I wonder how many of those people who advocate drone striking people are among the most anti refugee here.


What should the anti-refugee position be on with military involvement? Stay out 100% and let their genocide commence? I really have no clue what you're implying.

TheGrindery posted...
So did anyone say the omelette thing yet?


THIS IS WAR PEACOCK!
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ilovu
01/20/18 10:18:50 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
What should the anti-refugee position be on with military involvement? Stay out 100% and let their genocide commence? I really have no clue what you're implying.

hey remember all those things you said about Ethiopians in Israel.

I do.
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TheGrindery
01/20/18 10:19:14 AM
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God DAMN I fuckin' love Clue!
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teepan95
01/20/18 10:25:01 AM
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The more civilians die

The more recruits the next ISIS has. Especially in regions where the US isn't seen that favourably at the best of times
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Sativa_Rose
01/20/18 11:09:06 AM
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teepan95 posted...
The more civilians die

The more recruits the next ISIS has. Especially in regions where the US isn't seen that favourably at the best of times


Actually false, ISIS has been completely destroyed in Iraq and mostly destroyed in Syria. You seem to not realize how much fighting is being done by local forces against ISIS.
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darkprince45
01/20/18 11:13:57 AM
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Not sure how the liberals think they would handle this without civilian casualty. It's a terrible thing

But you're dealing with barbaric, ass backwards terrorists. This isn't the respect that soldiers ww1 or 2 would give each other in stories you read. This is straight just ignorant disgusting people
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The Great Muta 22
01/20/18 11:16:36 AM
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"Refugees need to stay in their own countries to rebuild them and drive out ISIS themselves! And you also need to understand that we need to bomb your cities and you or your family may die as a result of that."

But no, you guys really don't want to indiscriminately bomb brown people and for them to shut up and take it or anything...
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Vyrulisse
01/20/18 11:17:47 AM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
"Refugees need to stay in their own countries to rebuild them and drive out ISIS themselves! And you also need to understand that we need to bomb your cities and you or your family may die as a result of that."

But no, you guys really don't want to indiscriminately bomb brown people and for them to shut up and take it or anything...

Okay that's stupid and you should be ashamed for even posting something so ignorant
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ilovu
01/20/18 11:18:42 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
"Refugees need to stay in their own countries to rebuild them and drive out ISIS themselves! And you also need to understand that we need to bomb your cities and you or your family may die as a result of that."

But no, you guys really don't want to indiscriminately bomb brown people and for them to shut up and take it or anything...

Okay that's stupid and you should be ashamed for even posting something so ignorant

no he's right
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Vyrulisse
01/20/18 11:19:02 AM
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ilovu posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
"Refugees need to stay in their own countries to rebuild them and drive out ISIS themselves! And you also need to understand that we need to bomb your cities and you or your family may die as a result of that."

But no, you guys really don't want to indiscriminately bomb brown people and for them to shut up and take it or anything...

Okay that's stupid and you should be ashamed for even posting something so ignorant

no he's right

No he isn't
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The Great Muta 22
01/20/18 11:19:31 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Okay that's stupid and you should be ashamed for even posting something so ignorant


I mean that's the reality of the situation. Many people bitch and complain about the refugee crisis happening now and tell them they need to go back to their own countries and rebuild them. And a large chunk of these same people also approve of civilian deaths in bombings as "the cost of war". Do you not see how that's basically telling people who are trying to flee a warzone that could end in their death that they need to shut up and take it?
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Doom_Art
01/20/18 11:19:45 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Okay that's stupid and you should be ashamed for even posting something so ignorant

I mean he's not exactly wrong.

I'm sure it's not intentionally malicious but the hypocrisy of wanting refugees to stay in their own countries while at the same time bombing and attacking those countries is pretty jarring
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Vyrulisse
01/20/18 11:20:59 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Okay that's stupid and you should be ashamed for even posting something so ignorant

I mean he's not exactly wrong.

I'm sure it's not intentionally malicious but the hypocrisy of wanting refugees to stay in their own countries while at the same time bombing and attacking those countries is pretty jarring

The problem comes because they are an enemy of pretty much everyone and they have to be defeated but they don't fight conventional wars where two armies meet on battlefields. They use civilians as shields so there's no avoiding it even if you try and you can't exactly let them run free either. It's a no win situation.
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The Great Muta 22
01/20/18 11:30:11 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
The problem comes because they are an enemy of pretty much everyone and they have to be defeated but they don't fight conventional wars where two armies meet on battlefields. They use civilians as shields so there's no avoiding it even if you try and you can't exactly let them run free either. It's a no win situation.


No it isn't, and the reality should be to allow those fleeing to flee a warzone and not to tell them to go back home and get bombed and if they are killed then "oh well, that's the cost of war"
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ilovu
01/20/18 11:33:26 AM
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you can't attack a country and then bitch about refugees. how about that. so for all of you iran and north Korea hawks. I hope you are ready to take some refugees in.
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ilovu
01/20/18 11:35:00 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/20/18 11:39:03 AM
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So we if took more refugees, we could bomb the shit out of anyone that didn't want to leave their homes?
Seriously, what solution are/would you guys proposing/ed to ISIS? You even have the luxury of 20/20 hindsight.

All it does is seem like you're bitching without offering any solutions. VIRTUE, WHERE ARE YOU?!
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DarkChozoGhost
01/20/18 11:39:50 AM
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Once again, the US didn't defeat ISIS, the Kurds defeated ISIS. Saying the US defeated them is like saying Australia defeated Axis Japan
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ilovu
01/20/18 11:40:32 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
So we if took more refugees, we could bomb the shit out of anyone that didn't want to leave their homes?
Seriously, what solution are/would you guys proposing/ed to ISIS? You even have the luxury of 20/20 hindsight.

All it does is seem like you're bitching without offering any solutions. VIRTUE, WHERE ARE YOU?!

so remember that thing you said about Ethiopians in Israel? I'm just saying to have a little humanity.
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The Great Muta 22
01/20/18 11:42:31 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
So we if took more refugees, we could bomb the shit out of anyone that didn't want to leave their homes?
Seriously, what solution are/would you guys proposing/ed to ISIS? You even have the luxury of 20/20 hindsight.

All it does is seem like you're bitching without offering any solutions. VIRTUE, WHERE ARE YOU?!


And all it seems like you want is for refugees to stay in their own country and for them to deal with being bombed, and if they get killed then "Oh well, it happens". And if you believe that then fine, but just admit that you simply don't care if innocents get killed because you don't want them in "western nations".
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DarkChozoGhost
01/20/18 11:43:29 AM
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ilovu posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
So we if took more refugees, we could bomb the shit out of anyone that didn't want to leave their homes?
Seriously, what solution are/would you guys proposing/ed to ISIS? You even have the luxury of 20/20 hindsight.

All it does is seem like you're bitching without offering any solutions. VIRTUE, WHERE ARE YOU?!

so remember that thing you said about Ethiopians in Israel? I'm just saying to have a little humanity.

What did he say?
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ilovu
01/20/18 11:43:44 AM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
So we if took more refugees, we could bomb the shit out of anyone that didn't want to leave their homes?
Seriously, what solution are/would you guys proposing/ed to ISIS? You even have the luxury of 20/20 hindsight.

All it does is seem like you're bitching without offering any solutions. VIRTUE, WHERE ARE YOU?!


And all it seems like you want is for refugees to stay in their own country and for them to deal with being bombed, and if they get killed then "Oh well, it happens". And if you believe that then fine, but just admit that you simply don't care if innocents get killed because you don't want them in "western nations".

Do you know what he said about Ethiopians in Israel?
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ilovu
01/20/18 11:45:36 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
What did he say?

He supported Ethopia Jewish women being given birth control without their knowledge so they'd stop having poor kids.
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The Great Muta 22
01/20/18 11:46:18 AM
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ilovu posted...
Do you know what he said about Ethiopians in Israel?


No I don't
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DarkChozoGhost
01/20/18 11:49:57 AM
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ilovu posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
What did he say?

He supported Ethopia Jewish women being given birth control without their knowledge so they'd stop having poor kids.

Oh, doesn't surprise me. He also thinks women should be forced to take birth control to receive any government assistance in America. That's why I have him tagged as "Eugenicist."
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ilovu
01/20/18 11:53:11 AM
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And when he gets called out for it he pretends he didn't know it was done without their consent.
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teepan95
01/20/18 12:18:44 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
teepan95 posted...
The more civilians die

The more recruits the next ISIS has. Especially in regions where the US isn't seen that favourably at the best of times


Actually false, ISIS has been completely destroyed in Iraq and mostly destroyed in Syria. You seem to not realize how much fighting is being done by local forces against ISIS.

The more civilians the West kills, the more "martyrs" they create.
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hockeybub89
01/20/18 12:24:33 PM
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But Obama is a war criminal for bombing a hospital.

Apparently he just didn't bomb enough civilians. God bless Donald Trump, the brilliant military strategist who singlehandedly brought peace to the Middle East.

Holy shit, Trump supporters have no low.

I guess the next wave of terrorists just need to form in America and hide in our cities. Apparently we will just bomb our own citizens with impunity because necessary evils and what not.
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cjsdowg
01/20/18 12:36:45 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...


It's the only morally acceptable way they see to not sully their hands. It's purely about them not feeling at fault. They don't care about the future cost of lives as long as the battle never reaches their shores.


Going into Iraq made more bad guys and kill more innocent people.
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ItsYourFault
01/20/18 12:39:56 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
ItsYourFault posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Yep, and we actually got the job done.

Fair, next.

advocating murder. only trumpeter things

Sorry, the Obama way didn't work. He let that shit stagnate for years

lol. so lets murder children! yay!

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Teddytalks
01/20/18 1:04:16 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
6,000 civilians? Now compare that to the number ISIS killed, and the number killed by disease, hunger, poor sanitary conditions, etc. because of ISIS. It's probably way higher.


And they still are to successfully use those 6000 civilians as propaganda to attack the west again. Good job in advocating for a repeated cycle of death by ignoring the bodies you pile up in the name of "justice".
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Antifar
01/20/18 1:40:39 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
But Obama is a war criminal for bombing a hospital.

I mean, this ain't wrong.
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KingCrabCake
01/20/18 1:42:38 PM
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War sucks
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southcoast09
01/20/18 1:43:00 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
Yep, and we actually got the job done.

Fair, next.

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KingCrabCake
01/20/18 1:44:00 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
But Obama is a war criminal for bombing a hospital.

Apparently he just didn't bomb enough civilians. God bless Donald Trump, the brilliant military strategist who singlehandedly brought peace to the Middle East.

Holy shit, Trump supporters have no low.

I guess the next wave of terrorists just need to form in America and hide in our cities. Apparently we will just bomb our own citizens with impunity because necessary evils and what not.


All throughout Obama's presidency, conservatives like Mal_Fet were against drone strikes and condemned Obama when hospitals and weddings were bombed. But 6,000 civilians killed under Trump? Perfectly fine, it's just war.

Is there ANYONE out there with some goddamn consistency other than "my side good, other side bad"


Tbf my whole thing with Obama was he won the NOBLE PEACE PRIZE somehow
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yusiko
01/20/18 1:58:15 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...

All throughout Obama's presidency, conservatives like Mal_Fet were against drone strikes and condemned Obama when hospitals and weddings were bombed. But 6,000 civilians killed under Trump? Perfectly fine, it's just war.


its easier to understand the conservative thought process once you realize they are all huge hypocrites
things the condemn the other side for are ok if their side does it
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A_Good_Boy
01/20/18 1:59:34 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
But Obama is a war criminal for bombing a hospital.

Apparently he just didn't bomb enough civilians. God bless Donald Trump, the brilliant military strategist who singlehandedly brought peace to the Middle East.

Holy shit, Trump supporters have no low.

I guess the next wave of terrorists just need to form in America and hide in our cities. Apparently we will just bomb our own citizens with impunity because necessary evils and what not.


All throughout Obama's presidency, conservatives like Mal_Fet were against drone strikes and condemned Obama when hospitals and weddings were bombed. But 6,000 civilians killed under Trump? Perfectly fine, it's just war.

Is there ANYONE out there with some goddamn consistency other than "my side good, other side bad"


Tbf my whole thing with Obama was he won the NOBLE PEACE PRIZE somehow

When the president before Obama starts two pointless wars and gets thousands killed and the president after Obama manages to triple the amount of civilian deaths despite being in office for one year compared to Obama's 8, that peace price starts to make a whole lot more sense. Not saying that he deserved it just for that, but the context makes it a little more salient.
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KingCrabCake
01/20/18 2:01:59 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
But Obama is a war criminal for bombing a hospital.

Apparently he just didn't bomb enough civilians. God bless Donald Trump, the brilliant military strategist who singlehandedly brought peace to the Middle East.

Holy shit, Trump supporters have no low.

I guess the next wave of terrorists just need to form in America and hide in our cities. Apparently we will just bomb our own citizens with impunity because necessary evils and what not.


All throughout Obama's presidency, conservatives like Mal_Fet were against drone strikes and condemned Obama when hospitals and weddings were bombed. But 6,000 civilians killed under Trump? Perfectly fine, it's just war.

Is there ANYONE out there with some goddamn consistency other than "my side good, other side bad"


Tbf my whole thing with Obama was he won the NOBLE PEACE PRIZE somehow

When the president before Obama starts two pointless wars and gets thousands killed and the president after Obama manages to triple the amount of civilian deaths despite being in office for one year compared to Obama's 8, that peace price starts to make a whole lot more sense. Not saying that he deserved it just for that, but the context makes it a little more salient.


He didnt deserve a noble peace prize while blowing up kids. Im sorry. Idc what he was doing...its war. But im 100% against him getting that award
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hockeybub89
01/20/18 2:03:18 PM
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Antifar posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
But Obama is a war criminal for bombing a hospital.

I mean, this ain't wrong.

You are correct.
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