Current Events > Isn't a government shutdown just a nice vacation for federal employees?

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IdiotMachine 01/20/18 9:28:00 AM #1:	For non-essential federal employees, isn't it just a nice vacation? They're literally not allowed to work because the government is legally not allowed to pay them, but once a bill passes, they get back-pay? <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:894423349] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>For non-essential federal employees, isn't it just a nice vacation? They're literally not allowed to work because the government is legally not allowed to pay them, but once a bill passes, they get back-pay?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 01/20/18 9:36:29 AM #2:	Unpaid vacation, and they don't get back pay unless it's authorized in the bill that eventually gets passed. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:894423629] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>Unpaid vacation, and they don't get back pay unless it's authorized in the bill that eventually gets passed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 01/20/18 9:37:59 AM #3:	Paragon21XX posted... Unpaid vacation, and they don't get back pay unless it's authorized in the bill that eventually gets passed. Unless you're in congress, then you still get paid lol --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:894423672] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote>Unpaid vacation, and they don't get back pay unless it's authorized in the bill that eventually gets passed.</quote> Unless you're in congress, then you still get paid lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
untrustful 01/20/18 9:38:24 AM #4:	I wouldn't be surprised if Trump said "Back pay? Why? They chose to work for no pay, so let them not get paid." Then we have another controversy because now because the president said it, people copy him, and we're fighting over whether people should be paid for their work or not. ugh. --- My Mario Maker Levels https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/untrustful?type=posted <cite>untrustful posted [p:894423682] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't be surprised if Trump said "Back pay? Why? They chose to work for no pay, so let them not get paid." Then we have another controversy because now because the president said it, people copy him, and we're fighting over whether people should be paid for their work or not. ugh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 01/20/18 9:39:41 AM #5:	Military peeps usually have a grumpy time working for no pay --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:894423729] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>Military peeps usually have a grumpy time working for no pay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CharlesBronson 01/20/18 9:41:43 AM #6:	untrustful posted... I wouldn't be surprised if Trump said "Back pay? Why? They chose to work for no pay, so let them not get paid." Then we have another controversy because now because the president said it, people copy him, and we're fighting over whether people should be paid for their work or not. ugh. What an ignorant statement. How are they working with no pay if they can't work because the government is shut down? <cite>CharlesBronson posted [p:894423799] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>untrustful posted...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't be surprised if Trump said "Back pay? Why? They chose to work for no pay, so let them not get paid." Then we have another controversy because now because the president said it, people copy him, and we're fighting over whether people should be paid for their work or not. ugh.</quote> What an ignorant statement. How are they working with no pay if they can't work because the government is shut down?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 01/20/18 9:42:37 AM #7:	Unsugarized_Foo posted... Military peeps usually have a grumpy time working for no pay Oh shit, that's right. Doesn't the military have to work for free during this? That's insane lol --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:894423823] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted...</cite> <quote>Military peeps usually have a grumpy time working for no pay</quote> Oh shit, that's right. Doesn't the military have to work for free during this? That's insane lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 01/20/18 9:59:06 AM #8:	Unsugarized_Foo posted... Military peeps usually have a grumpy time working for no pay NeonOctopus posted... Oh shit, that's right. Doesn't the military have to work for free during this? That's insane lol They don't get paid backpay? <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:894424390] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted...</cite> <quote>Military peeps usually have a grumpy time working for no pay</quote> <cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>Oh shit, that's right. Doesn't the military have to work for free during this? That's insane lol </quote> They don't get paid backpay?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 01/20/18 10:03:58 AM #9:	I hope so, otherwise lol --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:894424581] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>I hope so, otherwise lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 01/20/18 10:05:56 AM #10:	IdiotMachine posted... Unsugarized_Foo posted... Military peeps usually have a grumpy time working for no pay NeonOctopus posted... Oh shit, that's right. Doesn't the military have to work for free during this? That's insane lol They don't get paid backpay? I'm pretty sure that any federal employee that still has to work during a shutdown will receive back pay after everything is back to normal. It's only the ones that are furloughed that may not be paid after a budget is passed unless explicitly authorized. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:894424671] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>IdiotMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted...</cite> <quote>Military peeps usually have a grumpy time working for no pay</quote> <cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>Oh shit, that's right. Doesn't the military have to work for free during this? That's insane lol </quote> They don't get paid backpay?</quote> I'm pretty sure that any federal employee that still has to work during a shutdown will receive back pay after everything is back to normal. It's only the ones that are furloughed that may not be paid after a budget is passed unless explicitly authorized.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 01/20/18 10:07:19 AM #11:	I thought nonessential personnels don't work and don't get paid, and essential personnels work but don't get paid during a government shutdown. But once the budget passes, they all get paid backpay. <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:894424720] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>I thought nonessential personnels don't work and don't get paid, and essential personnels work but don't get paid during a government shutdown. But once the budget passes, they all get paid backpay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 01/20/18 10:07:58 AM #12:	Paragon21XX posted... I'm pretty sure that any federal employee that still has to work during a shutdown will receive back pay after everything is back to normal. It's only the ones that are furloughed that may not be paid after a budget is passed unless explicitly authorized. Huh... If it doesn't get authorized, that sucks. <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:894424752] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure that any federal employee that still has to work during a shutdown will receive back pay after everything is back to normal. It's only the ones that are furloughed that may not be paid after a budget is passed unless explicitly authorized.</quote> Huh... If it doesn't get authorized, that sucks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 01/20/18 10:11:22 AM #13:	IdiotMachine posted... Paragon21XX posted... I'm pretty sure that any federal employee that still has to work during a shutdown will receive back pay after everything is back to normal. It's only the ones that are furloughed that may not be paid after a budget is passed unless explicitly authorized. Huh... If it doesn't get authorized, that sucks. They got back pay the last time it happened in 2013, so they very well could this time as well. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:894424878] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>IdiotMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure that any federal employee that still has to work during a shutdown will receive back pay after everything is back to normal. It's only the ones that are furloughed that may not be paid after a budget is passed unless explicitly authorized.</quote> Huh... If it doesn't get authorized, that sucks.</quote> They got back pay the last time it happened in 2013, so they very well could this time as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forlorn_Ass 01/20/18 10:21:21 AM #14:	Paragon21XX posted... IdiotMachine posted... Paragon21XX posted... I'm pretty sure that any federal employee that still has to work during a shutdown will receive back pay after everything is back to normal. It's only the ones that are furloughed that may not be paid after a budget is passed unless explicitly authorized. Huh... If it doesn't get authorized, that sucks. They got back pay the last time it happened in 2013, so they very well could this time as well. This always happens at the end of the fiscal year. We dont get paid for like a month and then get it backpayed. --- Her cheeks wobble around like water balloons on a trampoline. <cite>Forlorn_Ass posted [p:894425293] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IdiotMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure that any federal employee that still has to work during a shutdown will receive back pay after everything is back to normal. It's only the ones that are furloughed that may not be paid after a budget is passed unless explicitly authorized.</quote> Huh... If it doesn't get authorized, that sucks.</quote> They got back pay the last time it happened in 2013, so they very well could this time as well.</quote> This always happens at the end of the fiscal year. We dont get paid for like a month and then get it backpayed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 01/20/18 11:33:54 AM #15:	Forlorn_Ass posted... Paragon21XX posted... IdiotMachine posted... Paragon21XX posted... I'm pretty sure that any federal employee that still has to work during a shutdown will receive back pay after everything is back to normal. It's only the ones that are furloughed that may not be paid after a budget is passed unless explicitly authorized. Huh... If it doesn't get authorized, that sucks. They got back pay the last time it happened in 2013, so they very well could this time as well. This always happens at the end of the fiscal year. We dont get paid for like a month and then get it backpayed. Well you did get a free two week vacation. <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:894428733] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>Forlorn_Ass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IdiotMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure that any federal employee that still has to work during a shutdown will receive back pay after everything is back to normal. It's only the ones that are furloughed that may not be paid after a budget is passed unless explicitly authorized.</quote> Huh... If it doesn't get authorized, that sucks.</quote> They got back pay the last time it happened in 2013, so they very well could this time as well.</quote> This always happens at the end of the fiscal year. We dont get paid for like a month and then get it backpayed.</quote> Well you did get a free two week vacation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/20/18 11:40:09 AM #16:	NeonOctopus posted... Unsugarized_Foo posted... Military peeps usually have a grumpy time working for no pay Oh shit, that's right. Doesn't the military have to work for free during this? That's insane lol 1 - We're paid through February 1, which means we'll get at least the next paycheck from the government if the shutdown lasts that long. 2 - I can't speak for all banks, but historically both USAA and Navy Fed have paid us regardless. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 94. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:894429059] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted...</cite> <quote>Military peeps usually have a grumpy time working for no pay</quote> Oh shit, that's right. Doesn't the military have to work for free during this? That's insane lol</quote> 1 - We're paid through February 1, which means we'll get at least the next paycheck from the government if the shutdown lasts that long. 2 - I can't speak for all banks, but historically both USAA and Navy Fed have paid us regardless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 01/20/18 11:42:02 AM #17:	I also have to work without pay since technically it's "critical to the nations security" should get backpay, but technically there's a chance I won't --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:894429156] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>I also have to work without pay since technically it's "critical to the nations security" should get backpay, but technically there's a chance I won't</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/20/18 11:42:25 AM #18:	Some federal work is time dependent, non essential employees being forced to stay home can really fuck things over. https://www.nature.com/news/nih-shutdown-effects-multiply-1.13872 --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:894429173] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>Some federal work is time dependent, non essential employees being forced to stay home can really fuck things over. https://www.nature.com/news/nih-shutdown-effects-multiply-1.13872</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CircleOfManias 01/20/18 11:52:25 AM #19:	Paragon21XX posted... IdiotMachine posted... Paragon21XX posted... I'm pretty sure that any federal employee that still has to work during a shutdown will receive back pay after everything is back to normal. It's only the ones that are furloughed that may not be paid after a budget is passed unless explicitly authorized. Huh... If it doesn't get authorized, that sucks. They got back pay the last time it happened in 2013, so they very well could this time as well. There wasn't a Republican majority in 2013. If you honestly believe the GOP will authorize back pay for mere plebeians, you're delusional. --- Sick liaisons raise this monumental mark The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park <cite>CircleOfManias posted [p:894429748] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IdiotMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure that any federal employee that still has to work during a shutdown will receive back pay after everything is back to normal. It's only the ones that are furloughed that may not be paid after a budget is passed unless explicitly authorized.</quote> Huh... If it doesn't get authorized, that sucks.</quote> They got back pay the last time it happened in 2013, so they very well could this time as well.</quote> There wasn't a Republican majority in 2013. If you honestly believe the GOP will authorize back pay for mere plebeians, you're delusional.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/20/18 11:53:17 AM #20:	COVxy posted... Some federal work is time dependent, non essential employees being forced to stay home can really fuck things over. https://www.nature.com/news/nih-shutdown-effects-multiply-1.13872 dang that NIH scientist in that article could get it --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 94. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:894429796] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Some federal work is time dependent, non essential employees being forced to stay home can really fuck things over. https://www.nature.com/news/nih-shutdown-effects-multiply-1.13872</quote> dang that NIH scientist in that article could get it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoliske 01/20/18 11:56:25 AM #21:	CircleOfManias posted... Paragon21XX posted... IdiotMachine posted... Paragon21XX posted... I'm pretty sure that any federal employee that still has to work during a shutdown will receive back pay after everything is back to normal. It's only the ones that are furloughed that may not be paid after a budget is passed unless explicitly authorized. Huh... If it doesn't get authorized, that sucks. They got back pay the last time it happened in 2013, so they very well could this time as well. There wasn't a Republican majority in 2013. If you honestly believe the GOP will authorize back pay for mere plebeians, you're delusional. weak quality bait <cite>smoliske posted [p:894429973] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>CircleOfManias posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IdiotMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure that any federal employee that still has to work during a shutdown will receive back pay after everything is back to normal. It's only the ones that are furloughed that may not be paid after a budget is passed unless explicitly authorized.</quote> Huh... If it doesn't get authorized, that sucks.</quote> They got back pay the last time it happened in 2013, so they very well could this time as well.</quote> There wasn't a Republican majority in 2013. If you honestly believe the GOP will authorize back pay for mere plebeians, you're delusional.</quote> weak quality bait</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 01/20/18 11:58:41 AM #22:	he may be right, last time they authorized back pay. this time they probably won't (could possibly change) but that depends on them. --- I'd hate to be that guy. he'll be dodging freak accidents for the rest of his life now. Final Destination rules - RickyTheBAWSE <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:894430100] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>he may be right, last time they authorized back pay. this time they probably won't (could possibly change) but that depends on them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dampproof 01/20/18 12:00:32 PM #23:	Mitch McConnell struck down a bill that would've allowed the Military to be paid during the shutdown. Mitch McConnell also struck down a bill that would've made Congress not get paid during the shutdown. --- "Cyberspace is - or can be - a good, friendly and egalitarian place to meet." - Douglas Adams <cite>Dampproof posted [p:894430190] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>Mitch McConnell struck down a bill that would've allowed the Military to be paid during the shutdown. Mitch McConnell also struck down a bill that would've made Congress not get paid during the shutdown.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/20/18 12:01:18 PM #24:	Given how strongly they've been attacking national parks this past year it would not surprise me if they threw out some complete nonsense about how they have to further reduce certain national parks to justify the costs of backpay... --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 94. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:894430230] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>Given how strongly they've been attacking national parks this past year it would not surprise me if they threw out some complete nonsense about how they have to further reduce certain national parks to justify the costs of backpay...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 01/20/18 7:50:54 PM #25:	I actually just got the furlough notice got coded as non-essential at work so now I don't have to come in --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:894456552] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>I actually just got the furlough notice got coded as non-essential at work so now I don't have to come in</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoliske 01/20/18 7:51:16 PM #26:	prince_leo posted... I actually just got the furlough notice got coded as non-essential at work so now I don't have to come in how does it feel to be non-essential? <cite>smoliske posted [p:894456572] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote>I actually just got the furlough notice got coded as non-essential at work so now I don't have to come in</quote> how does it feel to be non-essential?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 01/20/18 7:54:05 PM #27:	smoliske posted... how does it feel to be non-essential? pretty great honestly, but it's only because i'm not certified in every sector. this time next year i'll be 'essential' and won't have the luxury of being a house husband --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:894456698] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>how does it feel to be non-essential? </quote> pretty great honestly, but it's only because i'm not certified in every sector. this time next year i'll be 'essential' and won't have the luxury of being a house husband</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/20/18 7:54:12 PM #28:	smoliske posted... prince_leo posted... I actually just got the furlough notice got coded as non-essential at work so now I don't have to come in how does it feel to be non-essential? According to Ann Coulter, "non-essential government employee" is an oxymoron >_> --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 94. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:894456704] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote>I actually just got the furlough notice got coded as non-essential at work so now I don't have to come in</quote> how does it feel to be non-essential?</quote> According to Ann Coulter, "non-essential government employee" is an oxymoron >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 01/20/18 7:58:53 PM #29:	All I know is we still have working capital for my position, so I still get to go in and do my stuff for pay. No one knows how long our money will last at the moment, though. We were told "a bit." --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:894456951] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>All I know is we still have working capital for my position, so I still get to go in and do my stuff for pay. No one knows how long our money will last at the moment, though. We were told "a bit."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 01/20/18 8:00:59 PM #30:	Dampproof posted... Mitch McConnell struck down a bill that would've allowed the Military to be paid during the shutdown. Mitch McConnell also struck down a bill that would've made Congress not get paid during the shutdown. Mitch McConnell is the biggest piece of shit in the US government <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:894457065] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dampproof posted...</cite> <quote>Mitch McConnell struck down a bill that would've allowed the Military to be paid during the shutdown. Mitch McConnell also struck down a bill that would've made Congress not get paid during the shutdown.</quote> Mitch McConnell is the biggest piece of shit in the US government</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/20/18 8:05:34 PM #31:	NeonOctopus posted... Unsugarized_Foo posted... Military peeps usually have a grumpy time working for no pay Oh shit, that's right. Doesn't the military have to work for free during this? That's insane lol they get paid but they don't get the checks. they have to wait until the government gets un-shut down to actually get the money they've earned. This is not the case with other federal employees. Just the military. Other employees just won't get anything. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:894457298] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted...</cite> <quote>Military peeps usually have a grumpy time working for no pay</quote> Oh shit, that's right. Doesn't the military have to work for free during this? That's insane lol</quote> they get paid but they don't get the checks. they have to wait until the government gets un-shut down to actually get the money they've earned. This is not the case with other federal employees. Just the military. Other employees just won't get anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/20/18 8:22:17 PM #32:	Unless the government approves backpay for employees which they've done in this past. Also apparently the way NFCU/USAA is handling this now is the military can get an interest/charge-free loan for up to $6,000 if the situation isn't resolved by February 1st. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 94. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:894458172] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>Unless the government approves backpay for employees which they've done in this past. Also apparently the way NFCU/USAA is handling this now is the military can get an interest/charge-free loan for up to $6,000 if the situation isn't resolved by February 1st.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 01/20/18 8:23:40 PM #33:	yeah, I got the email about having a zero-interest loan specifically for gov't shutdowns don't need it since my wife is an engineer, but it's nice to know there are options for others who are stuck since i'm designated as furlough and not lwop, I should get backpay even without working, but eh who knows with this congress? --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:894458251] in Isn't a go... [t:76222575]...</cite> <quote>yeah, I got the email about having a zero-interest loan specifically for gov't shutdowns don't need it since my wife is an engineer, but it's nice to know there are options for others who are stuck since i'm designated as furlough and not lwop, I should get backpay even without working, but eh who knows with this congress?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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