Current Events > Monique claims gender and race pay gap with Netflix. Wants a boycott

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CruelBuffalo
01/22/18 11:33:12 AM
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https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/21/monique-accuses-netflix-of-pay-gaps/

She claims theres a gender gap because she was paid less than Amy Schumer and a color/race gap because she was paid less than Dave Chapelle.

Lol ummm ok?
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Veggeta_MAX
01/22/18 11:34:33 AM
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Of course she's gonna get less pay because she's not as famous.
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josifrees
01/22/18 11:34:55 AM
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Didnt she get blackballed by Hollywood about a decade ago revealing the same thing
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FLUFFYGERM
01/22/18 11:35:12 AM
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This is why "pay gap" politics is bullshit. It amounts to "if anyone with different immutable characteristics made more money than me, it's a [insert immutable characteristic here] gap!"

Completely ignoring why some people get paid more than other people.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/22/18 11:36:38 AM
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Literal God Tier comedian (DC) got paid more than her after a decades long hiatus? Shhhhhho . . . fuck sarcasm, she is a fucking moron.

I'll boycott alright, her dumb ass.
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Muffinz0rz
01/22/18 11:37:40 AM
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I'm boycotting Jeff Bezos, I should be making as much money as him
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Ivynn
01/22/18 11:38:37 AM
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Just stop paying attention to these people
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CableZL
01/22/18 11:39:06 AM
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Eh, I think she's funny, but... She isn't on Dave Chappelle's level.
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masticatingman
01/22/18 11:49:43 AM
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Ive been forced to watch some of her specials with an SO before and shes got her head up her ass here. I could see her having an inflated sense of her popularity since the fans who show up to her sets absolutely love her. But she doesnt have the same mainstream appeal as those other two comedians. Although Schumers is mostly based on movies now but fame is fame.
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Vyrulisse
01/22/18 11:52:08 AM
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Why do we entertain this kinda nonsense? There are different levels of fame and ability, not everyone is going to be equal and get treated equally.
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Letron_James
01/22/18 11:53:33 AM
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I can understand about being pissed about that unfunny asshole Amy shumer getting paid more. However she is infinitely more popular than monique so yeah

But lol at her comparing herself to Dave LMFAO
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Nazanir
01/22/18 11:56:27 AM
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How come you never hear Morgan Freeman, or Denzel Washington complain they earn less than white men?
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chrono625
01/22/18 11:59:57 AM
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Nazanir posted...
How come you never hear Morgan Freeman, or Denzel Washington complain they earn less than white men?


Because it doesn't exist. Will Smith and the Rock were the highest paid or were among the highers paid actors for the past 10-20 years.
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NeonOctopus
01/22/18 12:01:02 PM
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eston
01/22/18 12:01:20 PM
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I actually don't remember the last time I heard anything about Monique
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Unsugarized_Foo
01/22/18 12:01:35 PM
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Who?
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Bandit_Keith
01/22/18 12:06:09 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
She claims theres a gender gap because she was paid less than Amy Schumer and a color/race gap because she was paid less than Dave Chapelle.

I think you have that backwards? A race gap because of Schumer and a gender gap because of Chappelle.

Either way, hilarious.

No one cares about her as much as either of the others. She could have tried to do what Schumer and Chappelle did, and have her reps negotiate a better deal. But she isn't that big of a draw and Netflix would not have paid her. She feels she's blacklisted in Hollywood, and maybe she is. But it could stem from her nasty attitude and being difficult to work with.
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darkjedilink
01/22/18 12:15:07 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
Of course she's gonna get less pay because she's not as famous.

This.
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Bandit_Keith
01/22/18 12:25:07 PM
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M_Live posted...
I found it funny that the two examples she cites are a woman and a black person.

Her specific complaints would almost necessitate that she mentions a black man and a white woman.
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The Admiral
01/22/18 12:28:05 PM
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Seems very self-serving to have people disingenuously conflate the gender/race gap with the talent/fame gap. If Monique really feels she's being underpaid, she should fire her agent instead of bitching about unsubstantiated discrimination.
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KazumaKiryu
01/22/18 12:31:51 PM
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Did they also pay her less than Kevin Spacey? This is an outrage!!!
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CruelBuffalo
01/22/18 12:32:21 PM
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Bandit_Keith posted...
M_Live posted...
I found it funny that the two examples she cites are a woman and a black person.

Her specific complaints would almost necessitate that she mentions a black man and a white woman.


Except theyre both paid very well...she would have to give an example of a white Man making more than them
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Nazanir
01/22/18 12:32:30 PM
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chrono625 posted...
Nazanir posted...
How come you never hear Morgan Freeman, or Denzel Washington complain they earn less than white men?


Because it doesn't exist. Will Smith and the Rock were the highest paid or were among the highers paid actors for the past 10-20 years.

Which was kind of my point.

If you bring in a lot of money, you get a lot of money. If you don't, either up your game or shut up.
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Monolith1676
01/22/18 12:33:29 PM
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M_Live posted...
Bandit_Keith posted...
M_Live posted...
I found it funny that the two examples she cites are a woman and a black person.

Her specific complaints would almost necessitate that she mentions a black man and a white woman.

Which is what makes it ridiculous though lol, like she just can't accept fault, so she has to build up her marginalization.


That is because 95% of all outrage these days is outrage for the sake of outrage and there is never an actual issue.
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The Admiral
01/22/18 12:33:49 PM
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Nazanir posted...
chrono625 posted...
Nazanir posted...
How come you never hear Morgan Freeman, or Denzel Washington complain they earn less than white men?


Because it doesn't exist. Will Smith and the Rock were the highest paid or were among the highers paid actors for the past 10-20 years.

Which was kind of my point.

If you bring in a lot of money, you get a lot of money. If you don't, either up your game or shut up.


Oprah was the highest paid figure in entertainment for well over a decade, before she was finally passed by another woman -- Judge Judy.

I never hear how that gets squared with the oppression narrative.
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Solar_Crimson
01/22/18 12:40:48 PM
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eston posted...
I actually don't remember the last time I heard anything about Monique

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EndOfDiscOne
01/22/18 12:43:27 PM
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Im still mad about Kevin Spacey getting paid more than Robin Wright in HoC!
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Sad_Face
01/22/18 12:48:43 PM
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Didnt Amy Schumer make a fuss about not being paid as much as Dave Chapelle and got a pay bump as a result? This looks like the same thing Monique is doing here. Doubt it would work though.

chrono625 posted...
Nazanir posted...
How come you never hear Morgan Freeman, or Denzel Washington complain they earn less than white men?


Because it doesn't exist. Will Smith and the Rock were the highest paid or were among the highers paid actors for the past 10-20 years.


Just because there are outliers doesnt mean a trend doesnt exist. Will Smith is one of the few actors that can land any role he wants as hes a AAA tier actor. Most black men in the industry wont have his privileges (that he earned).
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The Admiral
01/22/18 12:50:11 PM
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Sad_Face posted...
Didnt Amy Schumer make a fuss about not being paid as much as Dave Chapelle and got a pay bump as a result? This looks like the same thing Monique is doing here. Doubt it would work though.

chrono625 posted...
Nazanir posted...
How come you never hear Morgan Freeman, or Denzel Washington complain they earn less than white men?


Because it doesn't exist. Will Smith and the Rock were the highest paid or were among the highers paid actors for the past 10-20 years.


Just because there are outliers doesnt mean a trend doesnt exist. Will Smith is one of the few actors that can land any role he wants as hes a AAA tier actor. Most black men in the industry wont have his privileges (that he earned).


How is it simultaneously a privilege and something he's earned? And if Will earned it, what are these barriers preventing other actors with similar talent from earning it?
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Letron_James
01/22/18 12:54:18 PM
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Sad_Face posted...
Didnt Amy Schumer make a fuss about not being paid as much as Dave Chapelle and got a pay bump as a result? This looks like the same thing Monique is doing here. Doubt it would work though.

chrono625 posted...
Nazanir posted...
How come you never hear Morgan Freeman, or Denzel Washington complain they earn less than white men?


Because it doesn't exist. Will Smith and the Rock were the highest paid or were among the highers paid actors for the past 10-20 years.


Just because there are outliers doesnt mean a trend doesnt exist. Will Smith is one of the few actors that can land any role he wants as hes a AAA tier actor. Most black men in the industry wont have his privileges (that he earned).


Eddy Murphy is still eating off of Beverly hill cop royalties
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darkjedilink
01/22/18 12:54:45 PM
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Sad_Face posted...
Didnt Amy Schumer make a fuss about not being paid as much as Dave Chapelle and got a pay bump as a result? This looks like the same thing Monique is doing here. Doubt it would work though.

chrono625 posted...
Nazanir posted...
How come you never hear Morgan Freeman, or Denzel Washington complain they earn less than white men?

Because it doesn't exist. Will Smith and the Rock were the highest paid or were among the highers paid actors for the past 10-20 years.

Just because there are outliers doesnt mean a trend doesnt exist. Will Smith is one of the few actors that can land any role he wants as hes a AAA tier actor. Most black men in the industry wont have his privileges (that he earned).

They would if they earned them like Smith did.
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pinky0926
01/22/18 12:56:35 PM
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The fucking ego on this woman to think she remotely compared to Dave Chappelle, lmao
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tommybel89
01/22/18 12:57:41 PM
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Imagine comparing yourself to probably the top standup comic alive. Christ almighty.
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Darkninja42
01/22/18 1:03:21 PM
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I'm surprised Netflix actually offered her a special at all. She can't really be that delusional. Take the half a mil and call it a day
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chrono625
01/22/18 1:06:06 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Most black men in the industry wont have his privileges (that he earned)


How is something a privilege but at the same time be earned and deserved?

You're proving points. If Hollywood was racist they would be giving will Smith shitty deals despite being a box office power earner.

That's not the case, he's getting back what's he's putting out for the production companies.

Same goes for other prominent African American actors.
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Monolith1676
01/22/18 1:25:23 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
All in all, I feel like for the most part the pay gap doesn't exist unless you are working for a blatant sexist or racist person.


Bingo.
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bobbysjoby
01/22/18 1:37:02 PM
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Her attempt seriously back fired. Black twitters actually been clowning her and calling her washed up for this, talking about how they aren't about to drop the very affordable Netflix to help her pocket when she's beyond irrelevant

And tbqh while she has no business making even half as much as dave or chris, it is pretty disgusting that Schumer can get that kind of money. Tho to Netflix's defense at least that hack has some recent hit movies and is a big name in comedy

Monique gotta hold this L
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Knowledge_King
01/22/18 1:39:11 PM
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The Admiral posted...
If Monique really feels she's being underpaid, she should fire her agent instead of bitching about unsubstantiated discrimination.


She can't. It's her husband...
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Sad_Face
01/22/18 3:18:32 PM
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The Admiral posted...
How is it simultaneously a privilege and something he's earned? And if Will earned it, what are these barriers preventing other actors with similar talent from earning it?


He earned the status of a AAA actor and here are all the privileges that come with the AAA title status. Does that phrasing make sense?

And as for the bolded, ask anyone at that success level, luck.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
01/22/18 9:50:31 PM
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I find it even funnier that they bring up that Wanda Sykes was only offered 250,000

When was the last time Wanda Sykes was relevant?
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a42ozslushie
01/22/18 9:55:35 PM
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She probably didn't get paid as much as Schumer cause TC said "Monique" and I said "who?"
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