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LRodC
01/23/18 4:48:11 PM
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Is "thug" racist?


What are your thoughts?
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sk8r_ryan
01/23/18 4:48:36 PM
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Considering the first thing that comes to mind is heel Cena...
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mario2000
01/23/18 4:48:43 PM
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b7 for racial slurs in topic title
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darkjedilink
01/23/18 4:48:44 PM
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Not racist.
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Giant_Aspirin
01/23/18 4:49:10 PM
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depends on the context.

the word 'ape' can be racist in some contexts and not others.
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Carlbertomfg
01/23/18 4:49:42 PM
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Is it the word "burger" anywhere near it?
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Lost_All_Senses
01/23/18 4:50:13 PM
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I use it to describe anyone that constantly does petty crimes.

Edit: Petty Crimes involving vics.
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gguirao
01/23/18 4:50:25 PM
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Not by itself. It depends on context and intent.
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creativerealms
01/23/18 4:52:36 PM
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No as it can represent any race.
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eston
01/23/18 4:54:11 PM
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KingCrabCake
01/23/18 4:56:00 PM
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Nope. Depends on context.

Although last week i was told calling michael brown a thug was racist...
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Lost_All_Senses
01/23/18 4:57:43 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Nope. Depends on context.

Although last week i was told calling michael brown a thug was racist...


That's what happens when a topic is sensitive. It's very likely you knew that and just like pushing buttons.
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metralo
01/23/18 5:00:33 PM
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considering people almost exclusively use it to refer to black people, the word has been twisted that way, yes
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darkjedilink
01/23/18 5:01:39 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Nope. Depends on context.

Although last week i was told calling michael brown a thug was racist...

That's what happens when a topic is sensitive. It's very likely you knew that and just like pushing buttons.

Michael Brown was a thug. It speaks to a very basic lack of comprehension of the English language to argue he wasn't, or that calling him a thug is racist.
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darkjedilink
01/23/18 5:02:05 PM
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metralo posted...
considering people almost exclusively use it to refer to black people, the word has been twisted that way, yes

None of this is true.
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SpiralDrift
01/23/18 5:03:04 PM
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Nope. Act like a thug, get called a thug.
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boxington
01/23/18 5:03:17 PM
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yea, not in and of itself, but if you're more likely to label one race of people and not another for similar offenses, then that just might be racist
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Dyinglegacy
01/23/18 5:04:23 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
I use it to describe anyone that constantly does petty crimes.

Edit: Petty Crimes involving vics.


I use it to describe villain henchmen. Goon, lackey, mob, thug.

I also use it describe petty crimes, as well.
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LRodC
01/23/18 5:06:10 PM
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boxington posted...
yea, not in and of itself, but if you're more likely to label one race of people and not another for similar offenses, then that just might be racist

Say 20 black people commit a crime, and 18 white people commit a crime. You call them all thugs. Would it then be racist if the amount of black people you called thugs outnumbered the white people that you directed the word towards?
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The Admiral
01/23/18 5:06:39 PM
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Is it being used to refer to a regular black person who hasn't done anything violent? --> It's racist

Is it being used to refer to a violent criminal (of any race)? --> It's perfectly fine
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KingCrabCake
01/23/18 5:06:42 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Nope. Depends on context.

Although last week i was told calling michael brown a thug was racist...


That's what happens when a topic is sensitive. It's very likely you knew that and just like pushing buttons.


No i used it as an example on why i was for all insults on this site being banned. Labeling someone a racist because they called a violent criminal a thug is by far dumb as fuck but apparently calling a violent criminal a thug is racist...
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SpiralDrift
01/23/18 5:06:48 PM
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Let's not forget that the word has an actual meaning. If the definition fits someone's behavior then that's what they are. This is how words work.
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MachoManSavage
01/23/18 5:07:12 PM
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Yes if you're sensitive.

Otherwise no.
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Gafemage
01/23/18 5:07:15 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
depends on the context

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Funkydog
01/23/18 5:07:48 PM
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gguirao posted...
Not by itself. It depends on context and intent.


Asherlee10 posted...
Actually, the first thing that comes to mind when I hear the word "thug" is soccer hooligans in England. Maybe my thought pattern is racist towards white, British soccer fans?


Basically, yeah. I think of white chavs as the standard "thug"
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boxington
01/23/18 5:07:55 PM
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LRodC posted...
boxington posted...
yea, not in and of itself, but if you're more likely to label one race of people and not another for similar offenses, then that just might be racist

Say 20 black people commit a crime, and 18 white people commit a crime. You call them all thugs. Would it then be racist if the amount of black people you called thugs outnumbered the white people that you directed the word towards?

no
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DragonGirlYuki
01/23/18 5:08:43 PM
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Nope not racist.
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Ninja-Yatsu
01/23/18 5:08:48 PM
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Funkydog posted...
gguirao posted...
Not by itself. It depends on context and intent.

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K181
01/23/18 5:11:54 PM
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It's one of the go-to buzzwords that often gets used by some people almost exclusively for black people, so much like "uppity" it definitely grabs my attention and I need to rethink what was said or typed back in my head.
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Dyinglegacy
01/23/18 5:11:56 PM
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I've heard the term used to describe a specific type of fashion. Typically a hoodie, a flat bill hat, and baggy clothing with maybe some flamboyant jewelry. The color of the persons skin seemed to be irrelevant when using the term "thug" to describe the fashion.
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ChainedRedone
01/23/18 5:12:53 PM
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When it's used by people like Admiral yeah. Because he only uses it on black people.
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The Admiral
01/23/18 5:14:51 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
When it's used by people like Admiral yeah. Because he only uses it on black people.


You mean you only notice when it's used on black people, because you have a victim complex.

I use it pretty evenly when it's appropriate. Like in the topic yesterday about the white family who assaulted a cop for no reason.
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A_Good_Boy
01/23/18 5:14:57 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Nope. Depends on context.

Although last week i was told calling michael brown a thug was racist...


That's what happens when a topic is sensitive. It's very likely you knew that and just like pushing buttons.


No i used it as an example on why i was for all insults on this site being banned. Labeling someone a racist because they called a violent criminal a thug is by far dumb as fuck but apparently calling a violent criminal a thug is racist...

You had people explain their reasoning to you for like 2 pages while you insisted on focusing exclusively on Michael Brown despite the conversation moving far past that point. So yeah, you were just pushing buttons while acting obtuse.
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TheCyborgNinja
01/23/18 5:16:03 PM
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If you call a person a thug, no. If you refer to an ethnic group as thugs, yes.
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Garioshi
01/23/18 5:17:48 PM
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If it's used to refer to criminals of one race in particular and not any others (looking at you, Fox News), then yes.
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KILBOTz
01/23/18 5:18:52 PM
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not racist in and of itself but lots of racists try to camouflage their racists believes and thug is a popular code word among them.
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TheGrindery
01/23/18 5:25:38 PM
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SpiralDrift posted...
Let's not forget that the word has an actual meaning. If the definition fits someone's behavior then that's what they are. This is how words work.
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KingCrabCake
01/23/18 5:26:28 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Nope. Depends on context.

Although last week i was told calling michael brown a thug was racist...


That's what happens when a topic is sensitive. It's very likely you knew that and just like pushing buttons.


No i used it as an example on why i was for all insults on this site being banned. Labeling someone a racist because they called a violent criminal a thug is by far dumb as fuck but apparently calling a violent criminal a thug is racist...

You had people explain their reasoning to you for like 2 pages while you insisted on focusing exclusively on Michael Brown despite the conversation moving far past that point. So yeah, you were just pushing buttons while acting obtuse.


Actually thats not what happened. I even used a similar example on when it is racist. And no people literally said "calling michael brown a thug is racist" sit the fuck down liar

Oh and i would know seeing how

1. I made the topic.
2. I brought Michael Brown into the conversation.

So like I said sit the fuck down
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electricbugs2
01/23/18 5:28:10 PM
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In real life, no.

Here, 50/50.

Had a moderation when I lived in Vancouver for a summer after I made a topic about a "Thug shoving me on the SkyTrain" or something like that.

Had to plead my case to have it overturned.
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KawiKa
01/23/18 5:35:03 PM
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Not racist.
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Dyinglegacy
01/23/18 5:48:24 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
Had to plead my case to have it overturned.


This actually happens?
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Funkydog
01/23/18 6:30:13 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Funkydog posted...
Basically, yeah. I think of white chavs as the standard "thug"


And I'm not even British, so I have no idea why I think this.

Football hooligans are just that bad I guess.
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The Admiral
01/23/18 6:50:58 PM
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I remember CE flipping out once when AssultTank make a topic with "thug" in the title, and it was about some white criminals. A bunch of the users who I'm sure you can guess had meltdowns and thought he was just doing it to troll.
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Paragon21XX
01/23/18 6:53:13 PM
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Trigger warning: picture of a Thug
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PrettyBoyFloyd
01/23/18 7:16:34 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
depends on the context.

the word 'ape' can be racist in some contexts and not others.

I'm white and have been called a yard-ape plenty of times in my wee youth.
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