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The_Weird_Gamer 01/24/18 9:10:14 AM #51:	lol Republicans --- Mood: https://imgur.com/a/IrEgf <cite>The_Weird_Gamer posted [p:894696792] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote>lol Republicans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 01/24/18 9:32:37 AM #52:	s0nicfan posted... The last time a story like this got posted, an "innocent landscaper" who had been living here for 30 years turned out to have been selling drugs, which is why he got his deportation orders in the first place. I'm willing to bet this story is the same. You always see articles like this post the sob story, but they never go into the details of why they were targeted in the first place. You can hate Trump, but ICE still doesn't have enough people or time to go after everyone, and thus far every instance of someone like this I've seen was due to a crime of some kind. what ? the stuff he did was back then when he was a teenager and he never had any issues renewing his green card until now --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:894697619] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The last time a story like this got posted, an "innocent landscaper" who had been living here for 30 years turned out to have been selling drugs, which is why he got his deportation orders in the first place. I'm willing to bet this story is the same. You always see articles like this post the sob story, but they never go into the details of why they were targeted in the first place. You can hate Trump, but ICE still doesn't have enough people or time to go after everyone, and thus far every instance of someone like this I've seen was due to a crime of some kind.</quote> what ? the stuff he did was back then when he was a teenager and he never had any issues renewing his green card until now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/24/18 9:38:33 AM #53:	marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... The last time a story like this got posted, an "innocent landscaper" who had been living here for 30 years turned out to have been selling drugs, which is why he got his deportation orders in the first place. I'm willing to bet this story is the same. You always see articles like this post the sob story, but they never go into the details of why they were targeted in the first place. You can hate Trump, but ICE still doesn't have enough people or time to go after everyone, and thus far every instance of someone like this I've seen was due to a crime of some kind. what ? the stuff he did was back then when he was a teenager and he never had any issues renewing his green card until now Which is kind of my point. These things never happen in a vacuum. if he never had trouble renewing his green card until now, it's more likely that he did something then that ice has spontaneously decided that an upstanding polish doctor should be deported for no other reason than because LOL Trump. That's been a pretty consistent narrative across all of these deportation stories where they spend a lot of time detailing how great a guy the person is, but don't spend any time detailing why ice decided that now was the time to do it. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894697858] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The last time a story like this got posted, an "innocent landscaper" who had been living here for 30 years turned out to have been selling drugs, which is why he got his deportation orders in the first place. I'm willing to bet this story is the same. You always see articles like this post the sob story, but they never go into the details of why they were targeted in the first place. You can hate Trump, but ICE still doesn't have enough people or time to go after everyone, and thus far every instance of someone like this I've seen was due to a crime of some kind.</quote> what ? the stuff he did was back then when he was a teenager and he never had any issues renewing his green card until now</quote> Which is kind of my point. These things never happen in a vacuum. if he never had trouble renewing his green card until now, it's more likely that he did something then that ice has spontaneously decided that an upstanding polish doctor should be deported for no other reason than because LOL Trump. That's been a pretty consistent narrative across all of these deportation stories where they spend a lot of time detailing how great a guy the person is, but don't spend any time detailing why ice decided that now was the time to do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 01/24/18 10:35:50 AM #54:	s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... The last time a story like this got posted, an "innocent landscaper" who had been living here for 30 years turned out to have been selling drugs, which is why he got his deportation orders in the first place. I'm willing to bet this story is the same. You always see articles like this post the sob story, but they never go into the details of why they were targeted in the first place. You can hate Trump, but ICE still doesn't have enough people or time to go after everyone, and thus far every instance of someone like this I've seen was due to a crime of some kind. what ? the stuff he did was back then when he was a teenager and he never had any issues renewing his green card until now Which is kind of my point. These things never happen in a vacuum. if he never had trouble renewing his green card until now, it's more likely that he did something then that ice has spontaneously decided that an upstanding polish doctor should be deported for no other reason than because LOL Trump. That's been a pretty consistent narrative across all of these deportation stories where they spend a lot of time detailing how great a guy the person is, but don't spend any time detailing why ice decided that now was the time to do it. but it isnt they knew about those things every time he renewed it for the last 26 years and wasnt an issue before you are saying he did something between the last time renewed it and now --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:894700665] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The last time a story like this got posted, an "innocent landscaper" who had been living here for 30 years turned out to have been selling drugs, which is why he got his deportation orders in the first place. I'm willing to bet this story is the same. You always see articles like this post the sob story, but they never go into the details of why they were targeted in the first place. You can hate Trump, but ICE still doesn't have enough people or time to go after everyone, and thus far every instance of someone like this I've seen was due to a crime of some kind.</quote> what ? the stuff he did was back then when he was a teenager and he never had any issues renewing his green card until now</quote> Which is kind of my point. These things never happen in a vacuum. if he never had trouble renewing his green card until now, it's more likely that he did something then that ice has spontaneously decided that an upstanding polish doctor should be deported for no other reason than because LOL Trump. That's been a pretty consistent narrative across all of these deportation stories where they spend a lot of time detailing how great a guy the person is, but don't spend any time detailing why ice decided that now was the time to do it.</quote> but it isnt they knew about those things every time he renewed it for the last 26 years and wasnt an issue before you are saying he did something between the last time renewed it and now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/24/18 10:38:12 AM #55:	marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... The last time a story like this got posted, an "innocent landscaper" who had been living here for 30 years turned out to have been selling drugs, which is why he got his deportation orders in the first place. I'm willing to bet this story is the same. You always see articles like this post the sob story, but they never go into the details of why they were targeted in the first place. You can hate Trump, but ICE still doesn't have enough people or time to go after everyone, and thus far every instance of someone like this I've seen was due to a crime of some kind. what ? the stuff he did was back then when he was a teenager and he never had any issues renewing his green card until now Which is kind of my point. These things never happen in a vacuum. if he never had trouble renewing his green card until now, it's more likely that he did something then that ice has spontaneously decided that an upstanding polish doctor should be deported for no other reason than because LOL Trump. That's been a pretty consistent narrative across all of these deportation stories where they spend a lot of time detailing how great a guy the person is, but don't spend any time detailing why ice decided that now was the time to do it. but it isnt they knew about those things every time he renewed it for the last 26 years and wasnt an issue before So something new has probably happened that isn't being reported on, like the landscaper who we only found out was caught selling drugs when someone looked up his name and found the court case. My point is these sob stories ALWAYS omit details to make it seem unreasonable. you are saying he did something between the last time renewed it and now Yes. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894700784] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The last time a story like this got posted, an "innocent landscaper" who had been living here for 30 years turned out to have been selling drugs, which is why he got his deportation orders in the first place. I'm willing to bet this story is the same. You always see articles like this post the sob story, but they never go into the details of why they were targeted in the first place. You can hate Trump, but ICE still doesn't have enough people or time to go after everyone, and thus far every instance of someone like this I've seen was due to a crime of some kind.</quote> what ? the stuff he did was back then when he was a teenager and he never had any issues renewing his green card until now</quote> Which is kind of my point. These things never happen in a vacuum. if he never had trouble renewing his green card until now, it's more likely that he did something then that ice has spontaneously decided that an upstanding polish doctor should be deported for no other reason than because LOL Trump. That's been a pretty consistent narrative across all of these deportation stories where they spend a lot of time detailing how great a guy the person is, but don't spend any time detailing why ice decided that now was the time to do it.</quote> but it isnt they knew about those things every time he renewed it for the last 26 years and wasnt an issue before</quote> So something new has probably happened that isn't being reported on, like the landscaper who we only found out was caught selling drugs when someone looked up his name and found the court case. My point is these sob stories ALWAYS omit details to make it seem unreasonable. <quote>you are saying he did something between the last time renewed it and now</quote> Yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 01/24/18 10:55:11 AM #56:	s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... The last time a story like this got posted, an "innocent landscaper" who had been living here for 30 years turned out to have been selling drugs, which is why he got his deportation orders in the first place. I'm willing to bet this story is the same. You always see articles like this post the sob story, but they never go into the details of why they were targeted in the first place. You can hate Trump, but ICE still doesn't have enough people or time to go after everyone, and thus far every instance of someone like this I've seen was due to a crime of some kind. what ? the stuff he did was back then when he was a teenager and he never had any issues renewing his green card until now Which is kind of my point. These things never happen in a vacuum. if he never had trouble renewing his green card until now, it's more likely that he did something then that ice has spontaneously decided that an upstanding polish doctor should be deported for no other reason than because LOL Trump. That's been a pretty consistent narrative across all of these deportation stories where they spend a lot of time detailing how great a guy the person is, but don't spend any time detailing why ice decided that now was the time to do it. but it isnt they knew about those things every time he renewed it for the last 26 years and wasnt an issue before So something new has probably happened that isn't being reported on, like the landscaper who we only found out was caught selling drugs when someone looked up his name and found the court case. My point is these sob stories ALWAYS omit details to make it seem unreasonable. you are saying he did something between the last time renewed it and now Yes. and sometimes there isnt something new like the case of the one was going be deported because of something he did over 20 years ago too fought it and won but lost pretty much everything he had to shut down his bussiness and fire his employees https://www.denverite.com/longtime-legal-resident-gets-reprieve-deportation-chance-rebuild-life-denver-35737/ this doctor will have to fight it too but like the other one hell probably lose a lot too --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:894701675] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The last time a story like this got posted, an "innocent landscaper" who had been living here for 30 years turned out to have been selling drugs, which is why he got his deportation orders in the first place. I'm willing to bet this story is the same. You always see articles like this post the sob story, but they never go into the details of why they were targeted in the first place. You can hate Trump, but ICE still doesn't have enough people or time to go after everyone, and thus far every instance of someone like this I've seen was due to a crime of some kind.</quote> what ? the stuff he did was back then when he was a teenager and he never had any issues renewing his green card until now</quote> Which is kind of my point. These things never happen in a vacuum. if he never had trouble renewing his green card until now, it's more likely that he did something then that ice has spontaneously decided that an upstanding polish doctor should be deported for no other reason than because LOL Trump. That's been a pretty consistent narrative across all of these deportation stories where they spend a lot of time detailing how great a guy the person is, but don't spend any time detailing why ice decided that now was the time to do it.</quote> but it isnt they knew about those things every time he renewed it for the last 26 years and wasnt an issue before</quote> So something new has probably happened that isn't being reported on, like the landscaper who we only found out was caught selling drugs when someone looked up his name and found the court case. My point is these sob stories ALWAYS omit details to make it seem unreasonable. <quote>you are saying he did something between the last time renewed it and now</quote> Yes.</quote> and sometimes there isnt something new like the case of the one was going be deported because of something he did over 20 years ago too fought it and won but lost pretty much everything he had to shut down his bussiness and fire his employees https://www.denverite.com/longtime-legal-resident-gets-reprieve-deportation-chance-rebuild-life-denver-35737/ this doctor will have to fight it too but like the other one hell probably lose a lot too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Typhon 01/24/18 11:24:28 AM #57:	ChainedRedone posted... eggcorn posted... Barenziah Boy Toy posted... Typical Trump supporter: "Polish doctors are not good people. They're rapists and drug dealers ..." Why do liberals always say dumb racist shit under the guise of an imagined conservative thought process. It's called ridiculing. Mockery. Etc It's actually called projection. <cite>Typhon posted [p:894703213] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eggcorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote> Typical Trump supporter: "Polish doctors are not good people. They're rapists and drug dealers ..."</quote> Why do liberals always say dumb racist shit under the guise of an imagined conservative thought process.</quote> It's called ridiculing. Mockery. Etc</quote> It's actually called projection.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/24/18 12:37:06 PM #58:	marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... The last time a story like this got posted, an "innocent landscaper" who had been living here for 30 years turned out to have been selling drugs, which is why he got his deportation orders in the first place. I'm willing to bet this story is the same. You always see articles like this post the sob story, but they never go into the details of why they were targeted in the first place. You can hate Trump, but ICE still doesn't have enough people or time to go after everyone, and thus far every instance of someone like this I've seen was due to a crime of some kind. what ? the stuff he did was back then when he was a teenager and he never had any issues renewing his green card until now Which is kind of my point. These things never happen in a vacuum. if he never had trouble renewing his green card until now, it's more likely that he did something then that ice has spontaneously decided that an upstanding polish doctor should be deported for no other reason than because LOL Trump. That's been a pretty consistent narrative across all of these deportation stories where they spend a lot of time detailing how great a guy the person is, but don't spend any time detailing why ice decided that now was the time to do it. but it isnt they knew about those things every time he renewed it for the last 26 years and wasnt an issue before So something new has probably happened that isn't being reported on, like the landscaper who we only found out was caught selling drugs when someone looked up his name and found the court case. My point is these sob stories ALWAYS omit details to make it seem unreasonable. you are saying he did something between the last time renewed it and now Yes. and sometimes there isnt something new like the case of the one was going be deported because of something he did over 20 years ago too fought it and won but lost pretty much everything he had to shut down his bussiness and fire his employees https://www.denverite.com/longtime-legal-resident-gets-reprieve-deportation-chance-rebuild-life-denver-35737/ this doctor will have to fight it too but like the other one hell probably lose a lot too That's probably not the best example either. The guy you linked to was convinced of a felony drug trafficking (46 pounds of weed) and had a history of both domestic abuse and getting into fights in public (according to the article you linked). He had to fight so hard because he had to prove he was reformed, but I think they had a good reason to fight back given the profile presented. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894707246] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The last time a story like this got posted, an "innocent landscaper" who had been living here for 30 years turned out to have been selling drugs, which is why he got his deportation orders in the first place. I'm willing to bet this story is the same. You always see articles like this post the sob story, but they never go into the details of why they were targeted in the first place. You can hate Trump, but ICE still doesn't have enough people or time to go after everyone, and thus far every instance of someone like this I've seen was due to a crime of some kind.</quote> what ? the stuff he did was back then when he was a teenager and he never had any issues renewing his green card until now</quote> Which is kind of my point. These things never happen in a vacuum. if he never had trouble renewing his green card until now, it's more likely that he did something then that ice has spontaneously decided that an upstanding polish doctor should be deported for no other reason than because LOL Trump. That's been a pretty consistent narrative across all of these deportation stories where they spend a lot of time detailing how great a guy the person is, but don't spend any time detailing why ice decided that now was the time to do it.</quote> but it isnt they knew about those things every time he renewed it for the last 26 years and wasnt an issue before</quote> So something new has probably happened that isn't being reported on, like the landscaper who we only found out was caught selling drugs when someone looked up his name and found the court case. My point is these sob stories ALWAYS omit details to make it seem unreasonable. <quote>you are saying he did something between the last time renewed it and now</quote> Yes.</quote> and sometimes there isnt something new like the case of the one was going be deported because of something he did over 20 years ago too fought it and won but lost pretty much everything he had to shut down his bussiness and fire his employees https://www.denverite.com/longtime-legal-resident-gets-reprieve-deportation-chance-rebuild-life-denver-35737/ this doctor will have to fight it too but like the other one hell probably lose a lot too</quote> That's probably not the best example either. The guy you linked to was convinced of a felony drug trafficking (46 pounds of weed) and had a history of both domestic abuse and getting into fights in public (according to the article you linked). He had to fight so hard because he had to prove he was reformed, but I think they had a good reason to fight back given the profile presented.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 01/24/18 3:49:31 PM #59:	it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:894719451] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote>it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/24/18 3:52:11 PM #60:	marc55 posted... it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not Then the problem is that for over 20 years it WASN'T a problem, not that it is now. Being accused and deported without a fair trial, if true, IS a problem and shouldn't be happening, but if the takeaway from that story is "oh no, the guy who carted 50 pounds of marijuana, beat his wife, and frequently got into fights was deported and it shouldn't have happened because he got away with it for 20 years" then I'm going to side with ICE on this one. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894719635] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote>it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not</quote> Then the problem is that for over 20 years it WASN'T a problem, not that it is now. Being accused and deported without a fair trial, if true, IS a problem and shouldn't be happening, but if the takeaway from that story is "oh no, the guy who carted 50 pounds of marijuana, beat his wife, and frequently got into fights was deported and it shouldn't have happened because he got away with it for 20 years" then I'm going to side with ICE on this one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 01/24/18 3:56:04 PM #61:	s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not Then the problem is that for over 20 years it WASN'T a problem, not that it is now. Being accused and deported without a fair trial, if true, IS a problem and shouldn't be happening, but if the takeaway from that story is "oh no, the guy who carted 50 pounds of marijuana, beat his wife, and frequently got into fights was deported and it shouldn't have happened because he got away with it for 20 years" then I'm going to side with ICE on this one. you got it wrong his last problem with the law was decades ago ... --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:894719893] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote>it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not</quote> Then the problem is that for over 20 years it WASN'T a problem, not that it is now. Being accused and deported without a fair trial, if true, IS a problem and shouldn't be happening, but if the takeaway from that story is "oh no, the guy who carted 50 pounds of marijuana, beat his wife, and frequently got into fights was deported and it shouldn't have happened because he got away with it for 20 years" then I'm going to side with ICE on this one.</quote> you got it wrong his last problem with the law was decades ago ...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/24/18 4:12:31 PM #62:	marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not Then the problem is that for over 20 years it WASN'T a problem, not that it is now. Being accused and deported without a fair trial, if true, IS a problem and shouldn't be happening, but if the takeaway from that story is "oh no, the guy who carted 50 pounds of marijuana, beat his wife, and frequently got into fights was deported and it shouldn't have happened because he got away with it for 20 years" then I'm going to side with ICE on this one. you got it wrong his last problem with the law was decades ago ... That's what I'm saying. The issue is that decades ago he wasn't deported for drug trafficking, especially if his background revealed spousal abuse and a history of violence. That issue is being fixed. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894720936] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote>it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not</quote> Then the problem is that for over 20 years it WASN'T a problem, not that it is now. Being accused and deported without a fair trial, if true, IS a problem and shouldn't be happening, but if the takeaway from that story is "oh no, the guy who carted 50 pounds of marijuana, beat his wife, and frequently got into fights was deported and it shouldn't have happened because he got away with it for 20 years" then I'm going to side with ICE on this one.</quote> you got it wrong his last problem with the law was decades ago ...</quote> That's what I'm saying. The issue is that decades ago he wasn't deported for drug trafficking, especially if his background revealed spousal abuse and a history of violence. That issue is being fixed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 01/24/18 8:28:33 PM #63:	s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not Then the problem is that for over 20 years it WASN'T a problem, not that it is now. Being accused and deported without a fair trial, if true, IS a problem and shouldn't be happening, but if the takeaway from that story is "oh no, the guy who carted 50 pounds of marijuana, beat his wife, and frequently got into fights was deported and it shouldn't have happened because he got away with it for 20 years" then I'm going to side with ICE on this one. you got it wrong his last problem with the law was decades ago ... That's what I'm saying. The issue is that decades ago he wasn't deported for drug trafficking, especially if his background revealed spousal abuse and a history of violence. That issue is being fixed. ....but they knew his background each time the green card was renewed --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:894737883] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote>it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not</quote> Then the problem is that for over 20 years it WASN'T a problem, not that it is now. Being accused and deported without a fair trial, if true, IS a problem and shouldn't be happening, but if the takeaway from that story is "oh no, the guy who carted 50 pounds of marijuana, beat his wife, and frequently got into fights was deported and it shouldn't have happened because he got away with it for 20 years" then I'm going to side with ICE on this one.</quote> you got it wrong his last problem with the law was decades ago ...</quote> That's what I'm saying. The issue is that decades ago he wasn't deported for drug trafficking, especially if his background revealed spousal abuse and a history of violence. That issue is being fixed.</quote> ....but they knew his background each time the green card was renewed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/24/18 8:56:30 PM #64:	marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not Then the problem is that for over 20 years it WASN'T a problem, not that it is now. Being accused and deported without a fair trial, if true, IS a problem and shouldn't be happening, but if the takeaway from that story is "oh no, the guy who carted 50 pounds of marijuana, beat his wife, and frequently got into fights was deported and it shouldn't have happened because he got away with it for 20 years" then I'm going to side with ICE on this one. you got it wrong his last problem with the law was decades ago ... That's what I'm saying. The issue is that decades ago he wasn't deported for drug trafficking, especially if his background revealed spousal abuse and a history of violence. That issue is being fixed. ....but they knew his background each time the green card was renewed And it was a problem that they didn't act on it. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894739508] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote>it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not</quote> Then the problem is that for over 20 years it WASN'T a problem, not that it is now. Being accused and deported without a fair trial, if true, IS a problem and shouldn't be happening, but if the takeaway from that story is "oh no, the guy who carted 50 pounds of marijuana, beat his wife, and frequently got into fights was deported and it shouldn't have happened because he got away with it for 20 years" then I'm going to side with ICE on this one.</quote> you got it wrong his last problem with the law was decades ago ...</quote> That's what I'm saying. The issue is that decades ago he wasn't deported for drug trafficking, especially if his background revealed spousal abuse and a history of violence. That issue is being fixed.</quote> ....but they knew his background each time the green card was renewed</quote> And it was a problem that they didn't act on it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 01/24/18 10:21:32 PM #65:	s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not Then the problem is that for over 20 years it WASN'T a problem, not that it is now. Being accused and deported without a fair trial, if true, IS a problem and shouldn't be happening, but if the takeaway from that story is "oh no, the guy who carted 50 pounds of marijuana, beat his wife, and frequently got into fights was deported and it shouldn't have happened because he got away with it for 20 years" then I'm going to side with ICE on this one. you got it wrong his last problem with the law was decades ago ... That's what I'm saying. The issue is that decades ago he wasn't deported for drug trafficking, especially if his background revealed spousal abuse and a history of violence. That issue is being fixed. ....but they knew his background each time the green card was renewed And it was a problem that they didn't act on it. why ? most of it was just minor stuff deporting someone just because he got into a fight after a crash seems too much --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:894744664] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote>it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not</quote> Then the problem is that for over 20 years it WASN'T a problem, not that it is now. Being accused and deported without a fair trial, if true, IS a problem and shouldn't be happening, but if the takeaway from that story is "oh no, the guy who carted 50 pounds of marijuana, beat his wife, and frequently got into fights was deported and it shouldn't have happened because he got away with it for 20 years" then I'm going to side with ICE on this one.</quote> you got it wrong his last problem with the law was decades ago ...</quote> That's what I'm saying. The issue is that decades ago he wasn't deported for drug trafficking, especially if his background revealed spousal abuse and a history of violence. That issue is being fixed.</quote> ....but they knew his background each time the green card was renewed</quote> And it was a problem that they didn't act on it.</quote> why ? most of it was just minor stuff deporting someone just because he got into a fight after a crash seems too much</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/24/18 10:58:50 PM #66:	marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not Then the problem is that for over 20 years it WASN'T a problem, not that it is now. Being accused and deported without a fair trial, if true, IS a problem and shouldn't be happening, but if the takeaway from that story is "oh no, the guy who carted 50 pounds of marijuana, beat his wife, and frequently got into fights was deported and it shouldn't have happened because he got away with it for 20 years" then I'm going to side with ICE on this one. you got it wrong his last problem with the law was decades ago ... That's what I'm saying. The issue is that decades ago he wasn't deported for drug trafficking, especially if his background revealed spousal abuse and a history of violence. That issue is being fixed. ....but they knew his background each time the green card was renewed And it was a problem that they didn't act on it. why ? most of it was just minor stuff deporting someone just because he got into a fight after a crash seems too much AND drug trafficking. Also, don't forget about the domestic abuse against his first wife. I assume multiple fights PLUS trafficking drugs PLUS beating your wife all combined still count as "minor"? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894746844] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote>it is because for over 20 years his conviction wasnt an issue to get his green card renewed and now people dont even need to be convicted of a crime to lose it all they need to happen is for them to be accused doesnt matter if they did it or not</quote> Then the problem is that for over 20 years it WASN'T a problem, not that it is now. Being accused and deported without a fair trial, if true, IS a problem and shouldn't be happening, but if the takeaway from that story is "oh no, the guy who carted 50 pounds of marijuana, beat his wife, and frequently got into fights was deported and it shouldn't have happened because he got away with it for 20 years" then I'm going to side with ICE on this one.</quote> you got it wrong his last problem with the law was decades ago ...</quote> That's what I'm saying. The issue is that decades ago he wasn't deported for drug trafficking, especially if his background revealed spousal abuse and a history of violence. That issue is being fixed.</quote> ....but they knew his background each time the green card was renewed</quote> And it was a problem that they didn't act on it.</quote> why ? most of it was just minor stuff deporting someone just because he got into a fight after a crash seems too much</quote> AND drug trafficking. Also, don't forget about the domestic abuse against his first wife. I assume multiple fights PLUS trafficking drugs PLUS beating your wife all combined still count as "minor"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 01/25/18 7:12:45 AM #67:	Bump, I guess? https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/25/us/michigan-doctor-ice/index.html Child abuse allegations put Michigan doctor under ICE scrutiny, official says I guess we didn't have the whole story --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:894763534] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote>Bump, I guess? https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/25/us/michigan-doctor-ice/index.html <quote>Child abuse allegations put Michigan doctor under ICE scrutiny, official says</quote> I guess we didn't have the whole story</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 01/25/18 7:21:00 AM #68:	But I thought the immigration crackdown was code for Trump hates brown people? --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom http://i.imgur.com/9gYddqW.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:894763723] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote>But I thought the immigration crackdown was code for Trump hates brown people?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/25/18 7:31:29 AM #69:	marc55 posted... he had a green card.......and people on the other thread say he is an illegal i was sure green card holders arent illegal inmigrants If he tries to stay now that his renewal has been denied, he would be. He should have applied for full citizenship. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894764000] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote>he had a green card.......and people on the other thread say he is an illegal i was sure green card holders arent illegal inmigrants</quote> If he tries to stay now that his renewal has been denied, he would be. He should have applied for full citizenship.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/25/18 7:31:57 AM #70:	frozenshock posted... Bump, I guess? https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/25/us/michigan-doctor-ice/index.html Child abuse allegations put Michigan doctor under ICE scrutiny, official says I guess we didn't have the whole story Liberals on this board rarely do. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894764018] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>Bump, I guess? https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/25/us/michigan-doctor-ice/index.html <quote>Child abuse allegations put Michigan doctor under ICE scrutiny, official says</quote> I guess we didn't have the whole story</quote> Liberals on this board rarely do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 01/25/18 7:54:05 AM #71:	Yenno if you weren't so obsessed with blaming "Liberals" for everything maybe your "wife" wouldn't have left you and your life wouldn't be a steaming pile of shit --- http://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:894764652] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote>Yenno if you weren't so obsessed with blaming "Liberals" for everything maybe your "wife" wouldn't have left you and your life wouldn't be a steaming pile of shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/25/18 7:58:30 AM #72:	Bio1590 posted... Yenno if you weren't so obsessed with blaming "Liberals" for everything maybe your "wife" wouldn't have left you and your life wouldn't be a steaming pile of shit Typical CElib - can't argue the point, so you have to resort to personal attacks. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894764788] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>Yenno if you weren't so obsessed with blaming "Liberals" for everything maybe your "wife" wouldn't have left you and your life wouldn't be a steaming pile of shit </quote> Typical CElib - can't argue the point, so you have to resort to personal attacks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 01/25/18 8:26:36 AM #73:	What "point"? You mean that broad statement that means nothing that you're trying to pass off as an argument? Again I ask, do you really think you're better off blaming "Liberals" for everything rather than actually, I don't know, taking ownership of your issues and fixig your life? --- http://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:894765734] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote>What "point"? You mean that broad statement that means nothing that you're trying to pass off as an argument? Again I ask, do you really think you're better off blaming "Liberals" for everything rather than actually, I don't know, taking ownership of your issues and fixig your life?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/25/18 8:29:48 AM #74:	Bio1590 posted... What "point"? You mean that broad statement that means nothing that you're trying to pass off as an argument? Again I ask, do you really think you're better off blaming "Liberals" for everything rather than actually, I don't know, taking ownership of your issues and fixig your life? How is it my fault that the resident liberals on this board neglected to mention this man had criminal charges that contributed to his arrest and possible deportation? Maybe, instead of constantly harassing me about my life by taking statements out of context (knowing that the thread the original statement was in has been purged, meaning I can't prove you're doing so), and constantly reminding me about the events that drove me to attempt suicide, you could, you know, actually NOT be a jerk? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894765877] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>What "point"? You mean that broad statement that means nothing that you're trying to pass off as an argument? Again I ask, do you really think you're better off blaming "Liberals" for everything rather than actually, I don't know, taking ownership of your issues and fixig your life?</quote> How is it my fault that the resident liberals on this board neglected to mention this man had criminal charges that contributed to his arrest and possible deportation? Maybe, instead of constantly harassing me about my life by taking statements out of context (knowing that the thread the original statement was in has been purged, meaning I can't prove you're doing so), and constantly reminding me about the events that drove me to attempt suicide, you could, you know, actually NOT be a jerk?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 01/25/18 8:30:46 AM #75:	but I thought Trump only went after racial minorities --- To err is human To arr is pirate <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:894765919] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote>but I thought Trump only went after racial minorities</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/25/18 8:31:44 AM #76:	Bloodychess posted... but I thought Trump only went after racial minorities Well, this guy MUST be part black or Mexican. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894765959] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> <quote>but I thought Trump only went after racial minorities</quote> Well, this guy MUST be part black or Mexican.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainCrunch 01/25/18 8:37:15 AM #77:	StucklnMyPants posted... Barenziah Boy Toy posted... Typical Trump supporter: "Polish doctors are not good people. They're rapists and drug dealers ..." Now why does this not constitute trolling, but the other day, topics were getting locked from right wing posters that were essentially doing the same thing? I'm gonna assume it does fall under the category for trolling. After all, he posted that statement with the full intention of creating conflict. So just mark it as such like I have. --- #freeiran <cite>CaptainCrunch posted [p:894766152] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>StucklnMyPants posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>Typical Trump supporter: "Polish doctors are not good people. They're rapists and drug dealers ..."</quote> Now why does this not constitute trolling, but the other day, topics were getting locked from right wing posters that were essentially doing the same thing?</quote> I'm gonna assume it does fall under the category for trolling. After all, he posted that statement with the full intention of creating conflict. So just mark it as such like I have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FaytlessHearts 01/25/18 8:42:32 AM #78:	VTBM posted... Why didn't he apply for citizenship? He could afford it. I mean, this kind of. You've had 40 years and you're telling me not once have you even attempted at becoming an actual citizen? That sucks, but seriously? 40 years. Four decades. It isn't like he couldn't afford the cost of paperwork and whatever else. 40 years of not even trying..it is hard to sympathize if someone doesn't want to take the first step or even try to. --- Lel <cite>FaytlessHearts posted [p:894766323] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>VTBM posted...</cite> <quote>Why didn't he apply for citizenship? He could afford it.</quote> I mean, this kind of. You've had 40 years and you're telling me not once have you even attempted at becoming an actual citizen? That sucks, but seriously? 40 years. Four decades. It isn't like he couldn't afford the cost of paperwork and whatever else. 40 years of not even trying..it is hard to sympathize if someone doesn't want to take the first step or even try to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 01/25/18 8:55:35 AM #79:	So after reading through the topic, can I summarize that the system is actually working as intended now? That all his prior green card renewals are flukes or shouldn't have happened due to his past crimes? --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:894766804] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote>So after reading through the topic, can I summarize that the system is actually working as intended now? That all his prior green card renewals are flukes or shouldn't have happened due to his past crimes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VectorChaos 01/25/18 9:01:59 AM #80:	Has there been even one of these immigration sob stories yet that hasn't turned out to be full of incomplete/out of context information in order to paint everyone as a poor innocent victim of Evil White Racist Overlord Trump? --- PSN VectorChaos http://i.imgur.com/ftMERkZ.jpg XBL Vector Chaos http://i.imgur.com/10hWZ95.png http://i.imgur.com/MZMOLx0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R2jRl8F.jpg <cite>VectorChaos posted [p:894767046] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote>Has there been even one of these immigration sob stories yet that hasn't turned out to be full of incomplete/out of context information in order to paint everyone as a poor innocent victim of Evil White Racist Overlord Trump?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 01/25/18 9:03:56 AM #81:	NibeIungsnarf posted... Theres a place in America called Kalamazoo? There are at least five places in America called Kalamazoo. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:894767105] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>Theres a place in America called Kalamazoo?</quote> There are at least five places in America called Kalamazoo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 01/25/18 9:08:16 AM #82:	My first thought was why didnt he become a citizen. He doesnt speak polish and I really cant think of the benefit of having polish citizenship and not American citizenship. American citizenship gives you so many advantages youd have to be stupid or extremely lazy to spend 40 years here and not get it. --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:894767249] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote>My first thought was why didnt he become a citizen. He doesnt speak polish and I really cant think of the benefit of having polish citizenship and not American citizenship. American citizenship gives you so many advantages youd have to be stupid or extremely lazy to spend 40 years here and not get it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/25/18 9:14:43 AM #83:	VectorChaos posted... Has there been even one of these immigration sob stories yet that hasn't turned out to be full of incomplete/out of context information in order to paint everyone as a poor innocent victim of Evil White Racist Overlord Trump? Not that I know of. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894767527] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote>Has there been even one of these immigration sob stories yet that hasn't turned out to be full of incomplete/out of context information in order to paint everyone as a poor innocent victim of Evil White Racist Overlord Trump?</quote> Not that I know of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 01/25/18 9:21:59 AM #84:	The original article that was posted made it sound like he was an upstanding member of society who kept renewing his green card, then as soon as his application was refused for some reason the ICE cops just showed up out of the blue and arrested him It's hard not to get outraged when this is the story that's presented to you --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:894767813] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote>The original article that was posted made it sound like he was an upstanding member of society who kept renewing his green card, then as soon as his application was refused for some reason the ICE cops just showed up out of the blue and arrested him It's hard not to get outraged when this is the story that's presented to you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/25/18 9:56:18 AM #85:	Why isn't "permanent residency" actually permanent? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:894769250] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote>Why isn't "permanent residency" actually permanent?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fishy 01/25/18 9:57:37 AM #86:	Questionmarktarius posted... Why isn't "permanent residency" actually permanent? I believe crimes can still get you deported. This monster had two minor convictions as a teenager so we should toss him to the wolves. --- ~Dr. FishyStick\| Welcome Back. http://i.imgur.com/z50xS2H.jpg <cite>Fishy posted [p:894769308] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't "permanent residency" actually permanent?</quote> I believe crimes can still get you deported. This monster had two minor convictions as a teenager so we should toss him to the wolves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/25/18 9:59:02 AM #87:	Fishy posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Why isn't "permanent residency" actually permanent? I believe crimes can still get you deported. This monster had two minor convictions as a teenager so we should toss him to the wolves. I mean, if it's "permanent", why does it have to renewed every ten years? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:894769358] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fishy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't "permanent residency" actually permanent?</quote> I believe crimes can still get you deported. This monster had two minor convictions as a teenager so we should toss him to the wolves.</quote> I mean, if it's "permanent", why does it have to renewed every ten years?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 01/25/18 4:26:40 PM #88:	darkjedilink posted... VectorChaos posted... Has there been even one of these immigration sob stories yet that hasn't turned out to be full of incomplete/out of context information in order to paint everyone as a poor innocent victim of Evil White Racist Overlord Trump? Not that I know of. when you search this one almost every article had it all except the one TC linked to and His lawyer Russell Abrutyn said about the abuse allegations: "From what I understand, the Michigan State Police investigated this allegation and found it to be without merit. We expect the child abuse investigation to be dismissed too." this confirms they are targeting anyone accused of a crime doesnt matter if they are guilty or not --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:894792769] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote>Has there been even one of these immigration sob stories yet that hasn't turned out to be full of incomplete/out of context information in order to paint everyone as a poor innocent victim of Evil White Racist Overlord Trump?</quote> Not that I know of.</quote> when you search this one almost every article had it all except the one TC linked to and <quote>His lawyer Russell Abrutyn said about the abuse allegations: "From what I understand, the Michigan State Police investigated this allegation and found it to be without merit. We expect the child abuse investigation to be dismissed too."</quote> this confirms they are targeting anyone accused of a crime doesnt matter if they are guilty or not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 01/25/18 4:28:18 PM #89:	Questionmarktarius posted... I mean, if it's "permanent", why does it have to renewed every ten years? Because the moniker is meant to describe the actual person, not the rights that he should have. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:894792876] in Polish doc... [t:76235659]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, if it's "permanent", why does it have to renewed every ten years?</quote> Because the moniker is meant to describe the actual person, not the rights that he should have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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