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Mister_Spyker 01/24/18 6:16:59 PM #1:	Do you? Yes, most criminals are scum and deserve whatever they have coming Depends, if it's something truly despicable, then yes. I don't feel sorry for them, but I don't desire their suffering No, we should have empathy for all living beings View Results I was reading the story on Nassar, the guy who sexually molested young gymnasts as a team doctor, and then I saw what the judge had to say when she was sentencing him. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/larry-nassar-revealed-coward-hes-sentenced-175-years-195022418.html Basically, she hopes the perp dies in jail and is happy to bring about that suffering. I have to say, i understand perfectly where she's coming from, but not even pointing out how unprofessional the whole statement was, I feel like society finds it ok and justified to hate this man. I mean, I absolutely despise his actions, and there is no possible excuse for what he did, but it feels like we're crossing a line into their territory when we desire harm on them. I believe in punishment, but not in sadistic punishment, even for the worst criminals. I think making someone suffer for their actions should never be the motive of the justice system, even if it's the natural outcome. I believe that we should see any man with some compassion. Because of how lost a man must be to actually do these things to young girls. I believe in empathy for wrongdoers, am I the crazy person here? --- Dear lord, Spyker just ripped his entire life apart in nothing more than a few paragraphs. Ouch... - RexSilver <cite>Mister_Spyker posted [p:894729023] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote> Do you? Yes, most criminals are scum and deserve whatever they have coming Depends, if it's something truly despicable, then yes. I don't feel sorry for them, but I don't desire their suffering No, we should have empathy for all living beings View Results I was reading the story on Nassar, the guy who sexually molested young gymnasts as a team doctor, and then I saw what the judge had to say when she was sentencing him. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/larry-nassar-revealed-coward-hes-sentenced-175-years-195022418.html Basically, she hopes the perp dies in jail and is happy to bring about that suffering. I have to say, i understand perfectly where she's coming from, but not even pointing out how unprofessional the whole statement was, I feel like society finds it ok and justified to hate this man. I mean, I absolutely despise his actions, and there is no possible excuse for what he did, but it feels like we're crossing a line into their territory when we desire harm on them. I believe in punishment, but not in sadistic punishment, even for the worst criminals. I think making someone suffer for their actions should never be the motive of the justice system, even if it's the natural outcome. I believe that we should see any man with some compassion. Because of how lost a man must be to actually do these things to young girls. I believe in empathy for wrongdoers, am I the crazy person here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mustachedmystic 01/24/18 6:18:20 PM #2:	That depends if their crime is politically incorrect or not. --- Guns; freedom you can hold in your hand. Sampson, Terrordactyl <cite>mustachedmystic posted [p:894729104] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote>That depends if their crime is politically incorrect or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mister_Spyker 01/24/18 6:25:25 PM #3:	mustachedmystic posted... That depends if their crime is politically incorrect or not. Every crime is politically incorrect. --- Dear lord, Spyker just ripped his entire life apart in nothing more than a few paragraphs. Ouch... - RexSilver <cite>Mister_Spyker posted [p:894729587] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>mustachedmystic posted...</cite> <quote>That depends if their crime is politically incorrect or not.</quote> Every crime is politically incorrect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 01/24/18 6:28:46 PM #4:	Mister_Spyker posted... I believe that we should see any man with some compassion. Because of how lost a man must be to actually do these things to young girls. I believe in empathy for wrongdoers, am I the crazy person here? If it was your daughter, you'd want to kill him too. --- https://i.imgur.com/akpEP6p.gif https://i.imgur.com/hVRNKNs.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:894729800] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mister_Spyker posted...</cite> <quote>I believe that we should see any man with some compassion. Because of how lost a man must be to actually do these things to young girls. I believe in empathy for wrongdoers, am I the crazy person here?</quote> If it was your daughter, you'd want to kill him too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 01/24/18 6:30:10 PM #5:	DirkDiggles posted... Mister_Spyker posted... I believe that we should see any man with some compassion. Because of how lost a man must be to actually do these things to young girls. I believe in empathy for wrongdoers, am I the crazy person here? If it was your daughter, you'd want to kill him too. That's why we don't let them determine sentencing. So it's pretty irrelevant. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:894729892] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirkDiggles posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mister_Spyker posted...</cite> <quote>I believe that we should see any man with some compassion. Because of how lost a man must be to actually do these things to young girls. I believe in empathy for wrongdoers, am I the crazy person here?</quote> If it was your daughter, you'd want to kill him too.</quote> That's why we don't let them determine sentencing. So it's pretty irrelevant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mister_Spyker 01/24/18 6:30:50 PM #6:	DirkDiggles posted... If it was your daughter, you'd want to kill him too. Maybe, in my emotional state, but that's as a father. We shouldn't look at things so emotionally, especially in this sort of setting. --- Dear lord, Spyker just ripped his entire life apart in nothing more than a few paragraphs. Ouch... - RexSilver <cite>Mister_Spyker posted [p:894729931] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirkDiggles posted...</cite> <quote>If it was your daughter, you'd want to kill him too.</quote> Maybe, in my emotional state, but that's as a father. We shouldn't look at things so emotionally, especially in this sort of setting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/24/18 6:31:20 PM #7:	It's pretty fucked up, pretty much the entire purpose of Black Mirror's White Bear. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:894729967] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote>It's pretty fucked up, pretty much the entire purpose of Black Mirror's White Bear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 01/24/18 6:36:03 PM #9:	I see nothing wrong with hating criminals etc. but we should still try and ensure justice is actually dealt, and not vengeance. Wanting to see them further abused/raped in jail is a bit... I dunno.. much though. Do they deserve it? Eh. Whatever the answer to that, it kind of spits in the face of a justice system as we are letting criminals dish out their own justice after we've attempted to deal it ourselves. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:894730277] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote>I see nothing wrong with hating criminals etc. but we should still try and ensure justice is actually dealt, and not vengeance. Wanting to see them further abused/raped in jail is a bit... I dunno.. much though. Do they deserve it? Eh. Whatever the answer to that, it kind of spits in the face of a justice system as we are letting criminals dish out their own justice after we've attempted to deal it ourselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 01/24/18 6:36:09 PM #10:	Th3Truth posted... Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats Only one person thinks it's a pretty good idea to do absolutely nothing about the Joker time and time again. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:894730283] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats</quote> Only one person thinks it's a pretty good idea to do absolutely nothing about the Joker time and time again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBiggerWiggle 01/24/18 6:37:53 PM #11:	I'm sorry, but if you sexually assault hundreds of under age girls under the guise of medicine for decades then you don't deserve to confometably die in prison. You deserve something far more unspeakably heinous to happen. --- I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted [p:894730406] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry, but if you sexually assault hundreds of under age girls under the guise of medicine for decades then you don't deserve to confometably die in prison. You deserve something far more unspeakably heinous to happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 01/24/18 6:38:19 PM #12:	Absolutely - we must make an example out of these people --- https://i.imgur.com/lwkIVOb.png <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:894730439] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely - we must make an example out of these people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 01/24/18 6:40:37 PM #14:	Th3Truth posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Th3Truth posted... Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats Only one person thinks it's a pretty good idea to do absolutely nothing about the Joker time and time again. TC sounds like he would be that person if his last sentence is any indication. Some wrongdoers are past the point where compassion towards them become useless and will only end up hurting others. There's a pretty wide chasm between compassion and absolving someone of their crimes. You're the only one in this topic to make that leap. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:894730616] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats</quote> Only one person thinks it's a pretty good idea to do absolutely nothing about the Joker time and time again.</quote> TC sounds like he would be that person if his last sentence is any indication. Some wrongdoers are past the point where compassion towards them become useless and will only end up hurting others.</quote> There's a pretty wide chasm between compassion and absolving someone of their crimes. You're the only one in this topic to make that leap.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flintgrandad 01/24/18 6:43:16 PM #15:	A_Good_Boy posted... Th3Truth posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Th3Truth posted... Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats Only one person thinks it's a pretty good idea to do absolutely nothing about the Joker time and time again. TC sounds like he would be that person if his last sentence is any indication. Some wrongdoers are past the point where compassion towards them become useless and will only end up hurting others. There's a pretty wide chasm between compassion and absolving someone of their crimes. You're the only one in this topic to make that leap. Nah, he's right. Stop defending child molesters. <cite>Flintgrandad posted [p:894730805] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats</quote> Only one person thinks it's a pretty good idea to do absolutely nothing about the Joker time and time again.</quote> TC sounds like he would be that person if his last sentence is any indication. Some wrongdoers are past the point where compassion towards them become useless and will only end up hurting others.</quote> There's a pretty wide chasm between compassion and absolving someone of their crimes. You're the only one in this topic to make that leap.</quote> Nah, he's right. Stop defending child molesters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 01/24/18 6:45:08 PM #16:	Flintgrandad posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Th3Truth posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Th3Truth posted... Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats Only one person thinks it's a pretty good idea to do absolutely nothing about the Joker time and time again. TC sounds like he would be that person if his last sentence is any indication. Some wrongdoers are past the point where compassion towards them become useless and will only end up hurting others. There's a pretty wide chasm between compassion and absolving someone of their crimes. You're the only one in this topic to make that leap. Nah, he's right. Stop defending child molesters. Show me where someone said to let the doctor go free, please. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:894730932] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>Flintgrandad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats</quote> Only one person thinks it's a pretty good idea to do absolutely nothing about the Joker time and time again.</quote> TC sounds like he would be that person if his last sentence is any indication. Some wrongdoers are past the point where compassion towards them become useless and will only end up hurting others.</quote> There's a pretty wide chasm between compassion and absolving someone of their crimes. You're the only one in this topic to make that leap.</quote> Nah, he's right. Stop defending child molesters.</quote> Show me where someone said to let the doctor go free, please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flintgrandad 01/24/18 6:47:13 PM #17:	A_Good_Boy posted... Flintgrandad posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Th3Truth posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Th3Truth posted... Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats Only one person thinks it's a pretty good idea to do absolutely nothing about the Joker time and time again. TC sounds like he would be that person if his last sentence is any indication. Some wrongdoers are past the point where compassion towards them become useless and will only end up hurting others. There's a pretty wide chasm between compassion and absolving someone of their crimes. You're the only one in this topic to make that leap. Nah, he's right. Stop defending child molesters. Show me where someone said to let the doctor go free, please. Saying we should show compassion to child rapists is a sickening stance and defending them. Stop defending child molesters, please. <cite>Flintgrandad posted [p:894731094] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Flintgrandad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats</quote> Only one person thinks it's a pretty good idea to do absolutely nothing about the Joker time and time again.</quote> TC sounds like he would be that person if his last sentence is any indication. Some wrongdoers are past the point where compassion towards them become useless and will only end up hurting others.</quote> There's a pretty wide chasm between compassion and absolving someone of their crimes. You're the only one in this topic to make that leap.</quote> Nah, he's right. Stop defending child molesters.</quote> Show me where someone said to let the doctor go free, please.</quote> Saying we should show compassion to child rapists is a sickening stance and defending them. Stop defending child molesters, please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Laserion 01/24/18 6:48:58 PM #18:	Th3Truth posted... Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats The Joker needs to be deleted, for the greater good. But his suffering during that deletion is not necessary. Just instantaneously vaporize him. --- There is no "would of", "should of" or "could of". There is "would've", "should've" and "could've". <cite>Laserion posted [p:894731228] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats</quote> The Joker needs to be deleted, for the greater good. But his suffering during that deletion is not necessary. Just instantaneously vaporize him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 01/24/18 6:50:14 PM #19:	Flintgrandad posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Flintgrandad posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Th3Truth posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Th3Truth posted... Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats Only one person thinks it's a pretty good idea to do absolutely nothing about the Joker time and time again. TC sounds like he would be that person if his last sentence is any indication. Some wrongdoers are past the point where compassion towards them become useless and will only end up hurting others. There's a pretty wide chasm between compassion and absolving someone of their crimes. You're the only one in this topic to make that leap. Nah, he's right. Stop defending child molesters. Show me where someone said to let the doctor go free, please. Saying we should show compassion to child rapists is a sickening stance and defending them. Stop defending child molesters, please. So you can't back up your claim, just cry over things nobody said. Ok man, have fun doing that if you want. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:894731314] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>Flintgrandad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Flintgrandad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats</quote> Only one person thinks it's a pretty good idea to do absolutely nothing about the Joker time and time again.</quote> TC sounds like he would be that person if his last sentence is any indication. Some wrongdoers are past the point where compassion towards them become useless and will only end up hurting others.</quote> There's a pretty wide chasm between compassion and absolving someone of their crimes. You're the only one in this topic to make that leap.</quote> Nah, he's right. Stop defending child molesters.</quote> Show me where someone said to let the doctor go free, please.</quote> Saying we should show compassion to child rapists is a sickening stance and defending them. Stop defending child molesters, please.</quote> So you can't back up your claim, just cry over things nobody said. Ok man, have fun doing that if you want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Flintgrandad 01/24/18 6:51:46 PM #21:	A_Good_Boy posted... Flintgrandad posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Flintgrandad posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Th3Truth posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Only one person thinks it's a pretty good idea to do absolutely nothing about the Joker time and time again. TC sounds like he would be that person if his last sentence is any indication. Some wrongdoers are past the point where compassion towards them become useless and will only end up hurting others. There's a pretty wide chasm between compassion and absolving someone of their crimes. You're the only one in this topic to make that leap. Nah, he's right. Stop defending child molesters. Show me where someone said to let the doctor go free, please. Saying we should show compassion to child rapists is a sickening stance and defending them. Stop defending child molesters, please. So you can't back up your claim, just cry over things nobody said. Ok man, have fun doing that if you want. haha you would know all about that wouldn't you? Stop projecting. <cite>Flintgrandad posted [p:894731430] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Flintgrandad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Flintgrandad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> Only one person thinks it's a pretty good idea to do absolutely nothing about the Joker time and time again.</quote> TC sounds like he would be that person if his last sentence is any indication. Some wrongdoers are past the point where compassion towards them become useless and will only end up hurting others.</quote> There's a pretty wide chasm between compassion and absolving someone of their crimes. You're the only one in this topic to make that leap.</quote> Nah, he's right. Stop defending child molesters.</quote> Show me where someone said to let the doctor go free, please.</quote> Saying we should show compassion to child rapists is a sickening stance and defending them. Stop defending child molesters, please.</quote> So you can't back up your claim, just cry over things nobody said. Ok man, have fun doing that if you want.</quote> haha you would know all about that wouldn't you? Stop projecting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Laserion 01/24/18 6:52:55 PM #22:	The part of you that is happy that a wrongdoer is stopped from commiting those acts is good. The part of you that enjoys their torture is evil. --- There is no "would of", "should of" or "could of". There is "would've", "should've" and "could've". <cite>Laserion posted [p:894731536] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote>The part of you that is happy that a wrongdoer is stopped from commiting those acts is good. The part of you that enjoys their torture is evil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 01/24/18 7:42:25 PM #24:	Mister_Spyker posted... Every crime is politically incorrect. Really, even punching a Nazi? --- Guns; freedom you can hold in your hand. Sampson, Terrordactyl <cite>mustachedmystic posted [p:894734987] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mister_Spyker posted...</cite> <quote>Every crime is politically incorrect. </quote> Really, even punching a Nazi?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mister_Spyker 01/24/18 9:51:01 PM #25:	COVxy posted... It's pretty fucked up, pretty much the entire purpose of Black Mirror's White Bear. Loved that episode, and yes, it's amazing that there are people out there, and here who actually think that sort of situation is positive and good. Th3Truth posted... Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats Ok, your argument is going on completely false premises. First of all, you are assuming I don't think these are bad people. I know they are bad people, the difference is that I'm taking the focus of bad and putting it on people. Second, having compassion on a person does not mean setting them free, it means creating a system where we can help these people aknowledge and deal with the worst parts of themselves. Instead of putting them in a hole, so they can suffer. That is disgusting. Do you have any idea what it's like to be driven mad in isolation, living in guilt and a completely unrepairable conscience? These are not numbers and statistics. This is not a machine that is built to harm and deceive others. This is a living breathing person. And don't you come with that "so were his victims" bs. That is stooping to their level. We ought to aim a little bit higher than that. TheBiggerWiggle posted... I'm sorry, but if you sexually assault hundreds of under age girls under the guise of medicine for decades then you don't deserve to confometably die in prison. You deserve something far more unspeakably heinous to happen. Do you think you should always get what you deserve? In that world, we would all be living in a cycle of death and destruction, because we sure as hell deserve a lot of evil that thankfully doesn't come our way. We oughta humble ourselves and see that a man suffering in jail is just another side of ourselves that thankfully never came out. Maybe we made better choices, maybe better choices were made to us, regardless it could be me or you. Th3Truth posted... TC sounds like he would be that person if his last sentence is any indication. Some wrongdoers are past the point where compassion towards them become useless and will only end up hurting others. Perhaps, but I believe compassion towards others to be an use in and of itself, and I surely don't believe in retribution. Compassion keeps us human. Compassion makes this world a better place. Compassion is the goal. Not compassion to change him. Compassion to put ourselves in the shoes of the suffering man. --- Dear lord, Spyker just ripped his entire life apart in nothing more than a few paragraphs. Ouch... - RexSilver <cite>Mister_Spyker posted [p:894742955] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>It's pretty fucked up, pretty much the entire purpose of Black Mirror's White Bear.</quote> Loved that episode, and yes, it's amazing that there are people out there, and here who actually think that sort of situation is positive and good. <cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>Empathy for the worst criminals/sociopaths will only lead to more people getting hurt. "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" massacres several hundred people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" blows up several thousand people "man, the joker's not that bad of a guy" repeats</quote> Ok, your argument is going on completely false premises. First of all, you are assuming I don't think these are bad people. I know they are bad people, the difference is that I'm taking the focus of bad and putting it on people. Second, having compassion on a person does not mean setting them free, it means creating a system where we can help these people aknowledge and deal with the worst parts of themselves. Instead of putting them in a hole, so they can suffer. That is disgusting. Do you have any idea what it's like to be driven mad in isolation, living in guilt and a completely unrepairable conscience? These are not numbers and statistics. This is not a machine that is built to harm and deceive others. This is a living breathing person. And don't you come with that "so were his victims" bs. That is stooping to their level. We ought to aim a little bit higher than that. <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry, but if you sexually assault hundreds of under age girls under the guise of medicine for decades then you don't deserve to confometably die in prison. You deserve something far more unspeakably heinous to happen.</quote> Do you think you should always get what you deserve? In that world, we would all be living in a cycle of death and destruction, because we sure as hell deserve a lot of evil that thankfully doesn't come our way. We oughta humble ourselves and see that a man suffering in jail is just another side of ourselves that thankfully never came out. Maybe we made better choices, maybe better choices were made to us, regardless it could be me or you. <cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>TC sounds like he would be that person if his last sentence is any indication. Some wrongdoers are past the point where compassion towards them become useless and will only end up hurting others.</quote> Perhaps, but I believe compassion towards others to be an use in and of itself, and I surely don't believe in retribution. Compassion keeps us human. Compassion makes this world a better place. Compassion is the goal. Not compassion to change him. Compassion to put ourselves in the shoes of the suffering man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mister_Spyker 01/24/18 9:52:09 PM #26:	mustachedmystic posted... Mister_Spyker posted... Every crime is politically incorrect. Really, even punching a Nazi? Depends on where you do it. If it's war, I doubt it's a crime. --- Dear lord, Spyker just ripped his entire life apart in nothing more than a few paragraphs. Ouch... - RexSilver <cite>Mister_Spyker posted [p:894743022] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>mustachedmystic posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mister_Spyker posted...</cite> <quote>Every crime is politically incorrect. </quote> Really, even punching a Nazi?</quote> Depends on where you do it. If it's war, I doubt it's a crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mister_Spyker 01/24/18 9:52:46 PM #27:	Th3Truth posted... Is a would be rape victim who killed her attacker by stabbing them and said it felt good to stab them evil? No, but it's certainly interesting. --- Dear lord, Spyker just ripped his entire life apart in nothing more than a few paragraphs. Ouch... - RexSilver <cite>Mister_Spyker posted [p:894743060] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>Is a would be rape victim who killed her attacker by stabbing them and said it felt good to stab them evil?</quote> No, but it's certainly interesting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mew4ever 01/24/18 10:00:40 PM #29:	Locking away a vile person is good. Enjoying anyone's suffering is bad. I too wasn't really a fan of how the judge went on about the sentencing. I hope she doesn't feel that way about every criminal, because that would be a problem. --- http://tinyurl.com/qg6jcsu New York Mets 2015 NL Champions. New York Jets: 5-11 <cite>mew4ever posted [p:894743506] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote>Locking away a vile person is good. Enjoying anyone's suffering is bad. I too wasn't really a fan of how the judge went on about the sentencing. I hope she doesn't feel that way about every criminal, because that would be a problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BuzzyTheCat 01/24/18 10:02:32 PM #30:	The American justice system was and always has been based on the ideal of incapacitation. Justice must be swift, certain, and severe. Its the cornerstone over everything we have built as a country. Criminals deserve no sympathy. They should be removed from the eyesight of society, and made sure they do not return in any form. --- This signature has been deleted due to people being much too sensitive about religion. <cite>BuzzyTheCat posted [p:894743598] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote>The American justice system was and always has been based on the ideal of incapacitation. Justice must be swift, certain, and severe. Its the cornerstone over everything we have built as a country. Criminals deserve no sympathy. They should be removed from the eyesight of society, and made sure they do not return in any form.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mister_Spyker 01/24/18 10:09:13 PM #31:	BuzzyTheCat posted... The American justice system was and always has been based on the ideal of incapacitation. Justice must be swift, certain, and severe. Its the cornerstone over everything we have built as a country. Criminals deserve no sympathy. They should be removed from the eyesight of society, and made sure they do not return in any form. That's not what I'm discussing here. --- Dear lord, Spyker just ripped his entire life apart in nothing more than a few paragraphs. Ouch... - RexSilver <cite>Mister_Spyker posted [p:894743971] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>BuzzyTheCat posted...</cite> <quote>The American justice system was and always has been based on the ideal of incapacitation. Justice must be swift, certain, and severe. Its the cornerstone over everything we have built as a country. Criminals deserve no sympathy. They should be removed from the eyesight of society, and made sure they do not return in any form.</quote> That's not what I'm discussing here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BuzzyTheCat 01/24/18 10:16:53 PM #32:	Mister_Spyker posted... BuzzyTheCat posted... The American justice system was and always has been based on the ideal of incapacitation. Justice must be swift, certain, and severe. Its the cornerstone over everything we have built as a country. Criminals deserve no sympathy. They should be removed from the eyesight of society, and made sure they do not return in any form. That's not what I'm discussing here. But it actually is --- This signature has been deleted due to people being much too sensitive about religion. <cite>BuzzyTheCat posted [p:894744398] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mister_Spyker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BuzzyTheCat posted...</cite> <quote>The American justice system was and always has been based on the ideal of incapacitation. Justice must be swift, certain, and severe. Its the cornerstone over everything we have built as a country. Criminals deserve no sympathy. They should be removed from the eyesight of society, and made sure they do not return in any form.</quote> That's not what I'm discussing here.</quote> But it actually is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 01/24/18 11:58:55 PM #33:	If they're guilty, why not? --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:894750121] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote>If they're guilty, why not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sphyx 01/25/18 5:52:22 AM #35:	He deserves to be punished, but all i got from what she said was "hey, here's a social pariah, people will look on me favourably if i kick him really hard in front of them". I thought what she said was abhorrent. Fuck this guy, but fuck her too. --- You're so vain, You probably think this sig is about you. <cite>Sphyx posted [p:894761802] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote>He deserves to be punished, but all i got from what she said was "hey, here's a social pariah, people will look on me favourably if i kick him really hard in front of them". I thought what she said was abhorrent. Fuck this guy, but fuck her too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Steve Nick 01/25/18 5:54:14 AM #36:	I have empathy for everyone. Even Hitler, Osama, and Trump. They aren't very different from you. They're just in a different situation. They have the same thoughts and feelings that you have. --- This is my signature. <cite>Steve Nick posted [p:894761838] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote>I have empathy for everyone. Even Hitler, Osama, and Trump. They aren't very different from you. They're just in a different situation. They have the same thoughts and feelings that you have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mister_Spyker 01/25/18 7:43:15 AM #37:	Th3Truth posted... Sounds like a bunch of emotional virtue signaling that doesn't actually benefit anyone but yourself tbh. Kind of like the guy who would rather 5 individuals die in the trolley problem than 1 because they're unable to "dirty their hands" Keeping our hearts warm to the suffering of others, and actually being humble and seeing ourselves in others is very beneficial for society and we certainly could use more of that. --- Dear lord, Spyker just ripped his entire life apart in nothing more than a few paragraphs. Ouch... - RexSilver <cite>Mister_Spyker posted [p:894764323] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds like a bunch of emotional virtue signaling that doesn't actually benefit anyone but yourself tbh. Kind of like the guy who would rather 5 individuals die in the trolley problem than 1 because they're unable to "dirty their hands"</quote> Keeping our hearts warm to the suffering of others, and actually being humble and seeing ourselves in others is very beneficial for society and we certainly could use more of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 01/25/18 8:40:32 AM #38:	Hate isnt the sin some people believe it to be. <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:894766262] in Do you thi... [t:76238702]...</cite> <quote>Hate isnt the sin some people believe it to be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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