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Barenziah Boy Toy
01/25/18 12:56:34 AM
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Case in Point::

Zootopia
TFA
Wonder Woman
Get Out
Black Mirror -- USS Callister
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refmon
01/25/18 12:57:52 AM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Black Mirror -- USS Callister

huh
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cjsdowg
01/25/18 12:58:16 AM
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Sorry to disagree with you. But people have complained about Get out and the Star Wars for being too SJWy.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
01/25/18 12:58:35 AM
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refmon posted...
huh

The entire episode was about toxic male nerd culture.
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C_Pain
01/25/18 1:01:12 AM
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There was literally an entire 4chan troll piece about TFA being about cuckoldry, and TLJ has so much about Holdo being an sjw.
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dave_is_slick
01/25/18 1:18:45 AM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
refmon posted...
huh

The entire episode was about toxic male nerd culture.

Fucking what.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
01/25/18 1:21:05 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Fucking what.

Please educate yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EudArMNjbP0


http://collider.com/black-mirror-uss-callister-explained/
Black Mirrors USS Callister Is a Searing and Surprising Indictment of Toxic Masculinity

https://www.themarysue.com/uss-callister-toxic-masculinity/
https://nerdist.com/black-mirror-u-s-s-callister-star-trek-harassment-toxic-masculinity/

I can't believe some of you ppl didn't get such an obvious message.
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WizardPowers
01/25/18 1:23:06 AM
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Pretty much everybody hated the ugly asian girl in the new Star Wars and thought her role was forced/ stupid
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dave_is_slick
01/25/18 1:23:40 AM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Fucking what.

Please educate yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EudArMNjbP0


http://collider.com/black-mirror-uss-callister-explained/
Black Mirrors USS Callister Is a Searing and Surprising Indictment of Toxic Masculinity

https://www.themarysue.com/uss-callister-toxic-masculinity/
https://nerdist.com/black-mirror-u-s-s-callister-star-trek-harassment-toxic-masculinity/

I can't believe some of you ppl didn't get such an obvious message.

It was about someone insane not an entire fucking culture. The lengths you'll stretch to...
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dave_is_slick
01/25/18 1:24:09 AM
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WizardPowers posted...
Pretty much everybody hated the ugly asian girl in the new Star Wars and thought her role was forced/ stupid

She was so bad I legit forgot what her name was.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
01/25/18 1:24:37 AM
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Conflict posted...
Maybe because it's a goddamn TV show.

Are you not aware that Black Mirror is a TV show that is literally symbolism for something else?
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Dash_Harber
01/25/18 1:25:04 AM
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I generally just dismiss their ridiculous criticisms of things. Basically, if you can swap out black people or homosexuals for any so-called anti-SJW trend, it's probably an argument you want to take a second look at.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
01/25/18 1:25:30 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
It was about someone insane not an entire fucking culture. The lengths you'll stretch to...

Dude, the person that fucking CREATED the episode has already told us that it's about toxic male nerd culture.
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Fishy
01/25/18 1:26:55 AM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Fucking what.

Please educate yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EudArMNjbP0


http://collider.com/black-mirror-uss-callister-explained/
Black Mirrors USS Callister Is a Searing and Surprising Indictment of Toxic Masculinity

https://www.themarysue.com/uss-callister-toxic-masculinity/
https://nerdist.com/black-mirror-u-s-s-callister-star-trek-harassment-toxic-masculinity/

I can't believe some of you ppl didn't get such an obvious message.

My favorite part about that episode was that Daly did nothing wrong yet got shit on constantly in a company that he founded.

But what a toxic piece of shit for taking out his frustrations on a video game he invented.
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dave_is_slick
01/25/18 1:28:25 AM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
It was about someone insane not an entire fucking culture. The lengths you'll stretch to...

Dude, the person that fucking CREATED the episode has already told us that it's about toxic male nerd culture.

So why were they enjoying themselves at the end?
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Dash_Harber
01/25/18 1:31:23 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
It was about someone insane not an entire fucking culture. The lengths you'll stretch to...

Dude, the person that fucking CREATED the episode has already told us that it's about toxic male nerd culture.

So why were they enjoying themselves at the end?

Having never seen the episode, the show, or anything like that, I'm not sure why the 'bad guys' can't celebrate at the end. Remember Starship Troopers? Those fascist, sociopathic, genocidal military goons were pretty excited about their war.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
01/25/18 1:31:39 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
So why were they enjoying themselves at the end?

WTF are you talking about?
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dave_is_slick
01/25/18 1:32:51 AM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
So why were they enjoying themselves at the end?

WTF are you talking about?

Dude on the intercom was clearly a part of this toxic culture yet they were having the time of their lives.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
01/25/18 1:37:47 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Dude on the intercom was clearly a part of this toxic culture yet they were having the time of their lives.

Toxic male nerds enjoying themselves in a culture where they can thrive?
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southcoast09
01/25/18 1:38:52 AM
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Tastefulness and sjwism are not compatible. It's possible to tastefully have a diverse cast, but otherwise...
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Barenziah Boy Toy
01/25/18 1:39:44 AM
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southcoast09 posted...
Tastefulness and sjwism are not compatible. It's possible to tastefully have a diverse cast, but otherwise...

Not talking about diversity. Talking about political and social critique in the form of media.
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CelestialVoices
01/25/18 1:42:04 AM
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parks and recreation
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pegusus123456
01/25/18 1:59:00 AM
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I don't care what the creator says, that episode is not about fanboyism. Him being a fan of Space Quest or whatever they called their Star Trek wasn't the cause of the fucked-up shit that he did, it just provided the framing device. If he wanted it to be about fanboyism, then he dropped the ball hard.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
01/25/18 2:01:43 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I don't care what the creator says, that episode is not about fanboyism. Him being a fan of Space Quest or whatever they called their Star Trek wasn't the cause of the fucked-up shit that he did, it just provided the framing device. If he wanted it to be about fanboyism, then he dropped the ball hard.

Yeah, it's also about toxic male culture as well.
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pegusus123456
01/25/18 2:06:37 AM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
I don't care what the creator says, that episode is not about fanboyism. Him being a fan of Space Quest or whatever they called their Star Trek wasn't the cause of the fucked-up shit that he did, it just provided the framing device. If he wanted it to be about fanboyism, then he dropped the ball hard.

Yeah, it's also about toxic male culture as well.

No, it's not.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
01/25/18 2:08:56 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
No, it's not.

Deny it all you want. Feel free to argue with Charlie Brooker himself.
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Darmik
01/25/18 2:19:44 AM
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I'd say it was a concept based on those people who use games to vent out their frustrations. Like those people who would design FPS maps based on their school/work or name/design enemies after people they know.

Sometimes an escapist fantasy (like being in your favourite sci-fi show) can be twisted into something a lot worse when you bring real life and personal elements into it. Then you've got the concept of AI personalities layered into it.
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pegusus123456
01/25/18 2:22:18 AM
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Darmik posted...
I'd say it was a concept based on those people who use games to vent out their frustrations. Like those people who would design FPS maps based on their school/work or name/design enemies after people they know.

Sometimes an escapist fantasy (like being in your favourite sci-fi show) can be twisted into something a lot worse when you bring real life and personal elements into it. Then you've got the concept of AI personalities layered into it.

This is what the episode is about. Not fanboyism.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
01/25/18 2:24:17 AM
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Darmik posted...
Sometimes an escapist fantasy (like being in your favourite sci-fi show) can be twisted into something a lot worse when you bring real life and personal elements into it.

AKA, in the case of Daly, toxic male nerd culture. Example - someone who gets pissed that the woman who worships his code as a fangirl, doesn't express interest in him, sexually.
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Darmik
01/25/18 2:35:06 AM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Darmik posted...
Sometimes an escapist fantasy (like being in your favourite sci-fi show) can be twisted into something a lot worse when you bring real life and personal elements into it.

AKA, in the case of Daly, toxic male nerd culture. Example - someone who gets pissed that the woman who worships his code as a fangirl, doesn't express interest in him, sexually.


Yeah that's fine. But I think pegasus is meaning that being a Star Trek fan wasn't the issue. Being a fan of Star Trek lead to him making a cool game.

Using technology to vent out your real life frustrations instead of trying to be a better person is the bad part. And yes unfortunately this can be found easily in nerd culture.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
01/25/18 2:43:14 AM
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Darmik posted...
Yeah that's fine. But I think pegasus is meaning that being a Star Trek fan wasn't the issue. Being a fan of Star Trek lead to him making a cool game.

Using technology to vent out your real life frustrations instead of trying to be a better person is the bad part. And yes unfortunately this can be found easily in nerd culture.

Yes, I think ppl constantly misunderstand when SJWs say things like Toxic Male Culture, or Toxic Nerd Culture.

When SJWs say that, they don't mean that ALL male culture is toxic. They are referring to the PORTION of male culture that is toxic.
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UnfairRepresent
01/25/18 2:46:38 AM
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Didn't someone make a star wad edit that removed all females?
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dave_is_slick
01/25/18 8:17:12 AM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Dude on the intercom was clearly a part of this toxic culture yet they were having the time of their lives.

Toxic male nerds enjoying themselves in a culture where they can thrive?

No, if yo you had actually watched the episode, you'd know who I'm talking about. You really need to change your gimmick.
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DifferentialEquation
01/25/18 8:24:32 AM
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What was SJW about Wonder Woman?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/25/18 8:24:45 AM
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Funny how nobody whines about SJWism when it's done well in Media ..


One of the main complaints is that it's heavy handed and usually not done well. Of fucking course if it's done well people don't care.
Jesus Christ Fuck, you didn't find out anything they weren't already telling you. Do you really think this was a gotcha moment?
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specialkid8
01/25/18 8:28:15 AM
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That's because SJWism is inherently removed from being something of quality. Not everything that makes a statement or progressive message is SJW. It's only a label used for extreme, forced, and usually useless messages that do not require that much thought or vitriol or overall do not have a place where they are being put. But at this point it's become a mostly meaningless buzzword.
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GOOMFalse
01/25/18 8:36:21 AM
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Do you get paid to shitpost or do you just enjoy it
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VectorChaos
01/25/18 8:51:48 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Funny how nobody whines about SJWism when it's done well in Media ..


One of the main complaints is that it's heavy handed and usually not done well. Of fucking course if it's done well people don't care.
Jesus Christ Fuck, you didn't find out anything they weren't already telling you. Do you really think this was a gotcha moment?


Lmao this

What the shit was the point of this topic
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The Admiral
01/25/18 9:06:06 AM
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BBT flopic
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ClockworkHare
01/25/18 9:10:21 AM
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How was Zootopia "SJWism"...?

The film poked fun at various social issues, but it did it in entertaining ways without being aggressively preachy and militant.
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